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Abyssea
08/27/18 4:21:01 PM
#52:


isn't 16 the age of consent? :v
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catboy0_0
08/27/18 4:21:08 PM
#53:


oh boy, we're in for a show stopper folks
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SoundNetwork
08/27/18 4:21:23 PM
#54:


catboy0_0 posted...
SoundNetwork posted...
It's creepy according to your standards and moral compass dictated by your culture. What gives you the right to force your ideals on other cultures?

on this board, it's implied you live in the Western world unless otherwise stated, that's why


I said it's legal in many other countries. When does that ever imply only the western world? Lmao.
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catboy0_0
08/27/18 4:22:30 PM
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SoundNetwork posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
SoundNetwork posted...
It's creepy according to your standards and moral compass dictated by your culture. What gives you the right to force your ideals on other cultures?

on this board, it's implied you live in the Western world unless otherwise stated, that's why


I said it's legal in many other countries. When does that ever imply only the western world? Lmao.

now you're just being intentionally obtuse. I'm done
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Darkrobotisback
08/27/18 4:23:15 PM
#56:


SoundNetwork posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
SoundNetwork posted...
UltraDeku posted...
It's still creepy and wrong

Ephebophilia is the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19


This is legal in many countries

In many countries they lynch mob pedophiles

Luckily we're talking about epehekvofkofeo

Unfortunately for most countries aound the world, the term "ephebophillia" never caught on or it makes no difference to the people taking the law into their own hands.
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Musourenka
08/27/18 4:25:02 PM
#57:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I think they picked a really obnoxious hill to die on.

Pretty much this.

I agree with others that it's similar to the difference between murder and manslaughter, but unless we are discussing proper punishments and legal penalties, why does that matter? It's an issue of degrees of wrongness, not the wrongness itself. All you're left with is that "it's not quite as bad."
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SoundNetwork
08/27/18 4:27:22 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
SoundNetwork posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
SoundNetwork posted...
UltraDeku posted...
It's still creepy and wrong

Ephebophilia is the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19


This is legal in many countries

why do you feel the need to say this. it's still creepy

It's creepy according to your standards and moral compass dictated by your culture. What gives you the right to force your ideals on other cultures?


If a culture encourages sexually abusing kids (as in actual kids, not late-teens that would be legal in most places), then that culture is not deserving of respect or tolerance.

Ephebophilia is the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.

The age of consent in most western countries is at least 16. I don't get where you're getting the sexual abuse from
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Tmaster148
08/27/18 4:27:38 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
The only reason people use the "it's not pedophilia but..." is to make it sound less bad.

If someone's talking about a 15yo, for example, as opposed to a 7yo..guess what? it IS less bad.


Because saying at least they aren't 7 totally makes it anymore okay.

That's the whole issue with the "it's ephebophilia" crowd. They spend all their effort trying to make the situation sound better and not actually condemn the action.

Being technically correct in a situation involving taking advantage of underage people is just not a correct time/place to do so.
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SoundNetwork
08/27/18 4:29:03 PM
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Musourenka posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
I think they picked a really obnoxious hill to die on.

Pretty much this.

I agree with others that it's similar to the difference between murder and manslaughter, but unless we are discussing proper punishments and legal penalties, why does that matter? It's an issue of degrees of wrongness, not the wrongness itself. All you're left with is that "it's not quite as bad."


Because it's not a crime to be an Ephebophilie
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catboy0_0
08/27/18 4:29:12 PM
#61:


SoundNetwork posted...
The age of consent in most western countries is at least 16.

In america, that's only if you're a minor yourself iirc. If you're 18+ it's still statutory rape
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Blue_Dream87
08/27/18 4:29:46 PM
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They're just pedos in denial. Unnecessary deflection to one of it's definitions; in the eyes of US law it's still pedophilia
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orcus_snake
08/27/18 4:30:12 PM
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mario2000 posted...
what is your immediate opinion of someone who says this


They are technically correct but the opinion on the age discrepancy stands.
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Leanaunfurled
08/27/18 4:31:02 PM
#64:


It being okay or not is arguable depending on the context, and it's legal in many places.
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electricbugs2
08/27/18 4:32:01 PM
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I didn't even hear the term until I dated a 17 year old a few years back, and even then most people didn't give a shit.

As I always say, as long as it's legal, who gives a rats ass, focus on your own life.
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Musourenka
08/27/18 4:32:47 PM
#66:


SoundNetwork posted...
Because it's not a crime to be an Ephebophilie


Depending on the age difference between the two and the age of the younger partner, it most certainly can be.
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KamenRiderBlade
08/27/18 4:33:36 PM
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https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Age_of_Consent_-_Global.svg
The age of consent varies drastically around the world

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States
The age of consent in the US varies around 3 ages:

Over 60% of the U.S. population resides in states which have ages of consent as 16 or 17.[5]

States where the age of consent is 16 (31): Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio,[a] Oklahoma, Pennsylvania,[b] Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Vermont, Washington, and West Virginia.[25]
States where the age of consent is 17 (8): Colorado, Illinois, Louisiana, Missouri, New Mexico, New York, Texas,[c] and Wyoming.[29]
States where the age of consent is 18 (11): Arizona, California, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, North Dakota, Oregon, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, and Wisconsin

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SoundNetwork
08/27/18 4:33:45 PM
#68:


catboy0_0 posted...
SoundNetwork posted...
The age of consent in most western countries is at least 16.

In america, that's only if you're a minor yourself iirc. If you're 18+ it's still statutory rape

Got a source? Genuinely curious. Wikipedia has nothing on the U.S. Of a. But in Canada, even though the age od consent is 16, a 15 year old can consent to someone less than 5 yrs older
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MakoReizei
08/27/18 4:33:56 PM
#69:


All I know is, is that even when I'm in my 30's I'll still find 18 year old women more attractive than 30 year old women
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Tmaster148
08/27/18 4:34:20 PM
#70:


Leanaunfurled posted...
It being okay or not is arguable depending on the context, and it's legal in many places.


15 is not a valid AoC in the US which is usually where the whole "it's ephebophilia" usually comes up. Since usually in countries where the AoC is lower you don't hear someone being arrested for their relationship with someone who is legal.
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SoundNetwork
08/27/18 4:35:17 PM
#71:


Musourenka posted...
SoundNetwork posted...
Because it's not a crime to be an Ephebophilie


Depending on the age difference between the two and the age of the younger partner, it most certainly can be.

It's not a crime to drink but it's a crime to drink and drive. Its not a crime to be an Ephevophoekek.
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electricbugs2
08/27/18 4:35:58 PM
#72:


SoundNetwork posted...
But in Canada, even though the age od consent is 16

Within 7 years I think is what I remember.
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NinjaBreakfast
08/27/18 4:36:57 PM
#74:


"actually, she's 8000 years old"
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coinstarcad
08/27/18 4:37:44 PM
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Still, it's unacceptable when the groomer is 52 years old.
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SoundNetwork
08/27/18 4:37:46 PM
#76:


MakoReizei posted...
All I know is, is that even when I'm in my 30's I'll still find 18 year old women more attractive than 30 year old women

Naw. 22 is prime age for physical attractiveness and 30s for physical and intellectual attractiveness
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catboy0_0
08/27/18 4:38:24 PM
#77:


SoundNetwork posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
SoundNetwork posted...
The age of consent in most western countries is at least 16.

In america, that's only if you're a minor yourself iirc. If you're 18+ it's still statutory rape

Got a source? Genuinely curious. Wikipedia has nothing on the U.S. Of a. But in Canada, even though the age od consent is 16, a 15 year old can consent to someone less than 5 yrs older

from what I read the age difference is usually 3 years. also to legally have sex with a 16 y/o you must be married if you are 18+
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SoundNetwork
08/27/18 4:39:04 PM
#78:


electricbugs2 posted...
SoundNetwork posted...
But in Canada, even though the age od consent is 16

Within 7 years I think is what I remember.

16 is a free for all
15 up to 20
13 up to 15
12 up to 14
11 and lower no consent!!!!
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Musourenka
08/27/18 4:39:49 PM
#79:


SoundNetwork posted...
Musourenka posted...
SoundNetwork posted...
Because it's not a crime to be an Ephebophilie


Depending on the age difference between the two and the age of the younger partner, it most certainly can be.

It's not a crime to drink but it's a crime to drink and drive. Its not a crime to be an Ephevophoekek.


Yes it is a crime to drink in some situations.
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KamenRiderBlade
08/27/18 4:40:09 PM
#80:


coinstarcad posted...
Still, it's unacceptable when the groomer is 52 years old.
Except Huffington Post supports it.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-w-anderson/reasons-women-should-be-dating-men-in-their-50s_b_6841616.html

They even give this 50+ y/o guy space to blog about it!
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electricbugs2
08/27/18 4:41:13 PM
#81:


SoundNetwork posted...
16 is a free for all

Not so sure about that. Like I dated a 17 year old when I was 23(She was 16 for a few weeks but I digress), and I think I was technically edging it, but her parents loved me so nobody really cared.
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SoundNetwork
08/27/18 4:41:58 PM
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electricbugs2 posted...
SoundNetwork posted...
16 is a free for all

Not so sure about that. Like I dated a 17 year old when I was 23(She was 16 for a few weeks but I digress), and I think I was technically edging it, but her parents loved me so nobody really cared.

Source: wikipedia I dunno I don't even canafa
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catboy0_0
08/27/18 4:42:29 PM
#83:


Just do the [your age]/2 + 7 maybe + or - 1 year
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Zodd3224
08/27/18 4:43:11 PM
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Polycosm
08/27/18 4:43:19 PM
#85:


"actually it's involuntary celibacy"
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08/27/18 4:43:50 PM
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"actually it's about ethics in gaming journalism"
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Villain
08/27/18 4:50:13 PM
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Doesn't change the fact that they're a child predator.
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Touch
08/27/18 5:01:25 PM
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Villain posted...
Doesn't change the fact that they're a child predator.

But but but you're using emotions!!!!11
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Villain
08/27/18 5:03:25 PM
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fenderbender321 posted...
Villain posted...
Doesn't change the fact that they're a child predator.


Except teenagers aren't children. Stop letting the law's definition of what is and isn't a minor control your thinking. Scientifically and medically speaking, a 15 year old has about 95% more in common with a 25 year old than a 5 year old.

Fucking yikes
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SoundNetwork
08/27/18 5:04:34 PM
#91:


Villain posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Villain posted...
Doesn't change the fact that they're a child predator.


Except teenagers aren't children. Stop letting the law's definition of what is and isn't a minor control your thinking. Scientifically and medically speaking, a 15 year old has about 95% more in common with a 25 year old than a 5 year old.

Fucking yikes

Why are you so afraid of the truth
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Darkrobotisback
08/27/18 5:05:49 PM
#92:


fenderbender321 posted...
Villain posted...
Doesn't change the fact that they're a child predator.


Except teenagers aren't children. Stop letting the law's definition of what is and isn't a minor control your thinking. Scientifically and medically speaking, a 15 year old has about 95% more in common with a 25 year old than a 5 year old.

Imagine leading yourself to believe this nonsense
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Villain
08/27/18 5:08:16 PM
#93:


Some of you guys need to be on a watchlist.

Do you even interact with 15 year olds? They're nothing like 25 year olds.

I've worked in education this past year so I actually have credibility in my statement.
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Tmaster148
08/27/18 5:14:42 PM
#94:


Villain posted...
fenderbender321 posted...
Villain posted...
Doesn't change the fact that they're a child predator.


Except teenagers aren't children. Stop letting the law's definition of what is and isn't a minor control your thinking. Scientifically and medically speaking, a 15 year old has about 95% more in common with a 25 year old than a 5 year old.

Fucking yikes


fender wants it legal to fuck horses fyi. He's the last person anyone should seek about AoC laws.
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RoboLaserGandhi
08/27/18 5:19:01 PM
#95:


davyheinz posted...
The only reason they know the difference is because they are- *shot*

I know the difference because of Family Guy
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nemu
08/27/18 5:20:55 PM
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While legally still wrong if under the age of consent, it is not as bad as abusing an actual kid, so the justification in using the term is correct. Some old guy who has consensual sex with a 15 year old is still a creep and should be arrested if that's under the age of consent, but he's not a pedophile.
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Darkrobotisback
08/27/18 5:21:27 PM
#98:


fenderbender321 posted...
Villain posted...
Some of you guys need to be on a watchlist.

Do you even interact with 15 year olds? They're nothing like 25 year olds.

I've worked in education this past year so I actually have credibility in my statement.


My whole point was that 15 year olds are way more like 25 year olds than 5 year olds....especially in terms of sexuality. This is science. So don't blame me. Blame scientists for doing science if you don't like hearing this. Sorry guys.

It's scientifically proven that teenagers carry a greater risk of having miscarriages or babies being born prematurely compared to an adult female.
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Twin3Turbo
08/27/18 5:21:27 PM
#99:


I don't have any disdain for people using the correct terminology. I think it's kinda important to make the distinction between being attracted to girls that look a lot closer to an adult woman, and being attracted to literal kids.

That being said, I still think it's creepy when people go specifically after the 15-19 age group, or when you're like about the age of 24 or so and still trying to date 18 year olds. It pretty much always reeks of looking to take advantage of the inexperience of the younger party and I'll never support it.
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