Poll of the Day > Man chases down and kills other man who stole his wallet

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DoubleOSnake
08/13/18 9:48:25 AM
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/64232bd6-d898-3160-9504-74ca30d4e4e8/ss_no-bond-and-no-court-date-set.html

apparently he chased him down and pummeled him to death after he stole his wallet. What do you think he should be charged with and how many years? if any
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ParanoidObsessive
08/13/18 10:04:41 AM
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I think he should be given a pat on the back and sent on his way.


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Lokarin
08/13/18 10:06:11 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
I think he should be given a pat on the back and sent on his way.



He should be fined for using his fists and not a gun.
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ParanoidObsessive
08/13/18 10:13:21 AM
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Lokarin posted...
He should be fined for using his fists and not a gun.

What if he was secretly like Barret from FFVII, and his fists actually are guns?


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Lokarin
08/13/18 10:14:14 AM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Lokarin posted...
He should be fined for using his fists and not a gun.

What if he was secretly like Barret from FFVII, and his fists actually are guns?



Now you made me question reality... where DOES he keep the ammo?
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HagenEx
08/13/18 10:16:16 AM
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Nice.
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ParanoidObsessive
08/13/18 10:17:48 AM
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Lokarin posted...
Now you made me question reality... where DOES he keep the ammo?

In nature's pocket, obviously.


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Blighboy
08/13/18 10:45:25 AM
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I can't read the article right now but if I'm remembering the details he beat the man to death for five minutes while the guy begged him to stop.

Seems like a pretty clear case of second degree murder but of course since Americans are notoriously bloodthirsty a lot of you will think this is okay.
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SunWuKung420
08/13/18 10:46:11 AM
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The punishment didn't fit the crime.
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OhhhJa
08/13/18 11:16:06 AM
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I dont think he should've beaten him to death but at the same time I have zero sympathy for thieves
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OhhhJa
08/13/18 11:18:05 AM
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SunWuKung420
08/13/18 11:34:08 AM
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It's a bit over the top. A good bruising and being arrested should have been the extent of it.
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DoubleOSnake
08/13/18 11:39:59 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
It's a bit over the top. A good bruising and being arrested should have been the extent of it.

yeah it was excessive
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Golden Road
08/13/18 11:43:15 AM
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Was there a fight, or was there a beatdown? That's an important distinction here. Like was he fighting to get back his wallet, and the thief just succumbed to his injuries in the tussle, or did this guy have the upper hand, got his wallet, and started doling out a beating like a punishment?
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samuricex
08/13/18 11:48:26 AM
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Nothing of value was lost except the time wasted on the thief.
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dioxxys
08/13/18 1:15:14 PM
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That'll teach him not to steal.....
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XlaxJynx007
08/13/18 1:16:16 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I dont think he should've beaten him to death but at the same time I have zero sympathy for thieves

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DirtBasedSoap
08/13/18 1:27:42 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Seems like a pretty clear case of second degree murder but of course since Americans are notoriously bloodthirsty a lot of you will think this is okay.

bad troll
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Mead
08/13/18 1:28:28 PM
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He committed murder, so that is what he should be charged with
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Kyuubi4269
08/13/18 1:29:23 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Americans are notoriously bloodthirsty a lot of you will think this is okay.

The majority of the world approves of brutalising thieves, the world is not Western Europe.
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Kyuubi4269
08/13/18 1:30:28 PM
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Mead posted...
He committed murder, so that is what he should be charged with

Juries can choose to say he is guilty but shouldn't be punished anyway.
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DirtBasedSoap
08/13/18 1:32:02 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Blighboy posted...
Americans are notoriously bloodthirsty a lot of you will think this is okay.

The majority of the world approves of brutalising thieves, the world is not Western Europe.

yeah theyll cut your fucking hands off in certain parts of the world
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Far-Queue
08/13/18 1:38:36 PM
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I'd rather a non-violent thief run loose on the streets than someone who lacks self-control and gives in to violent urges over something as insignificant as a couple credit cards and ID. Dude should be locked the fuck up. He's clearly unstable.
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dedbus
08/13/18 2:08:28 PM
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It's really not that hard to not rob somebody. In fact it would take a conscious effort to consider and do it. A conscious consideration that the law and moral objection would let you prey on a populous with their hands mentally and culturally tied behind their back with little chance for retaliation. Better luck next time I guess.
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FourthDimension
08/13/18 2:25:03 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Blighboy posted...
Americans are notoriously bloodthirsty a lot of you will think this is okay.

The majority of the world approves of brutalising thieves, the world is not Western Europe.

yeah theyll cut your fucking hands off in certain parts of the world

And even that would have been more reasonable than what this guy did
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FourthDimension
08/13/18 2:25:46 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Blighboy posted...
Americans are notoriously bloodthirsty a lot of you will think this is okay.

The majority of the world approves of brutalising thieves, the world is not Western Europe.

yeah theyll cut your fucking hands off in certain parts of the world

and even that would have been a more reasonable punishment
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Mead
08/13/18 2:31:13 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
I think he should be given a pat on the back and sent on his way.

HagenEx posted...
Nice.

samuricex posted...
Nothing of value was lost except the time wasted on the thief.

dioxxys posted...
That'll teach him not to steal.....


What do you get when you combine pent up anger and impotent life choices

Outlooks like these
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TheSlinja
08/13/18 2:36:53 PM
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"The subject was robbed by the victim," according to NOPD's Major Offense Log. "The subject chased down the robbery perpetrator and a physical altercation occurred."

The victim, only listed as a man in his mid 30s, did make it to the hospital.

"The victim was transported to UMC hospital where he expired."


going with only these details from the link, I cant fault the guy really
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Blighboy
08/13/18 3:11:06 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
Blighboy posted...
Seems like a pretty clear case of second degree murder but of course since Americans are notoriously bloodthirsty a lot of you will think this is okay.

bad troll

How is it trolling when there are multitudes of people jumping at the chance to prove me right.
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LOLIAmAnAlt
08/13/18 3:19:48 PM
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That article does not give enough details of the story.
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VeeVees
08/13/18 3:24:09 PM
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He should be paid
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Smarkil
08/13/18 3:28:31 PM
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There's literally no more information other than 'a physical altercation' occurred. Maybe this was a Con Air situation where the guy had to defend himself and did some military kung fu and killed the guy on accident.
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Mead
08/13/18 3:29:03 PM
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VeeVees posted...
He should be paid


Im sure hell get an upcoming job making around 20 cents an hour
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SunWuKung420
08/13/18 3:56:46 PM
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I'm never surprised which posters agree with unjustified homicide.
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thedeerzord
08/13/18 3:58:03 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
I'm never surprised which posters agree with unjustified homicide.

But it is justified.

He stole a man wallet. He had gotten away with it, he might have spent thousands of unrecoverable dollars.
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Monopoman
08/13/18 4:17:23 PM
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thedeerzord posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
I'm never surprised which posters agree with unjustified homicide.

But it is justified.

He stole a man wallet. He had gotten away with it, he might have spent thousands of unrecoverable dollars.

If someone steals your credit card and charges on it in 99% of cases its pretty easy to get the charges removed. So the only way he would steal 1000s and get away with it is if you are dumb enough to carry around 1000's of dollars in cash, I guess if you also keep your pin number with your bank card he could withdraw some cash and that might not be recoverable.
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Golden Road
08/13/18 4:18:29 PM
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Smarkil posted...
There's literally no more information other than 'a physical altercation' occurred. Maybe this was a Con Air situation where the guy had to defend himself and did some military kung fu and killed the guy on accident.

That's why I want to know whether there was a fight, and the thief just wound up on the losing end of the fight, or if there was a beatdown. That distinction is important, and right now it doesn't seem to have an answer.
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Mead
08/13/18 4:43:57 PM
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Even if there was a fight you can win a fight without beating someone to death. If he had shot the guy you could at least argue that maybe he thought the thief was gonna kill him but this dude beat him until he was subdued and then kept beating him to the point that he died from the injuries. Thats not self defense

We have laws and a thief should go to prison ideally
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Smarkil
08/13/18 4:45:54 PM
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Mead posted...
Even if there was a fight you can win a fight without beating someone to death. If he had shot the guy you could at least argue that maybe he thought the thief was gonna kill him but this dude beat him until he was subdued and then kept beating him to the point that he died from the injuries. Thats not self defense

We have laws and a thief should go to prison ideally


You can also get in a fight and accidentally kill someone. It's a thing that happens from time to time. If they're mutual combatants then it's generally considered manslaughter.
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CacciatoPart3
08/13/18 4:46:29 PM
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It's impossible to make a decision based off that article, specifically three words. It doesn't sound like murder, it sounds like manslaughter.
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Golden Road
08/13/18 4:47:16 PM
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Mead posted...
Even if there was a fight you can win a fight without beating someone to death. If he had shot the guy you could at least argue that maybe he thought the thief was gonna kill him but this dude beat him until he was subdued and then kept beating him to the point that he died from the injuries. Thats not self defense

We have laws and a thief should go to prison ideally

Let me rephrase my question, then: was there a fight and/or a beatdown? Whether or not there was a fight is relatively unimportant. The beatdown part is the more important part.
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Mead
08/13/18 4:47:25 PM
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Smarkil posted...
Mead posted...
Even if there was a fight you can win a fight without beating someone to death. If he had shot the guy you could at least argue that maybe he thought the thief was gonna kill him but this dude beat him until he was subdued and then kept beating him to the point that he died from the injuries. Thats not self defense

We have laws and a thief should go to prison ideally


You can also get in a fight and accidentally kill someone. It's a thing that happens from time to time. If they're mutual combatants then it's generally considered manslaughter.


Yeah thats a good point
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AC_Dragonfire
08/13/18 5:34:42 PM
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This event along with the Airplane suicide makes me think this will be a real man's world again.
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darkknight109
08/13/18 5:49:34 PM
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There is a tonne of context missing from that story that make it impossible to say whether this was justified and what sort of punishment, if any, should be handed down.

Did the first guy mean to kill the second or was this just something where he landed a punch in a bad spot or the guy smacked his head after falling? Did the guy have a chance to get away after recovering his wallet or did the fight continue to the end?

All that article says is that there was a robbery, followed by a fight and the robber died. More details required.

Monopoman posted...
If someone steals your credit card and charges on it in 99% of cases its pretty easy to get the charges removed. So the only way he would steal 1000s and get away with it is if you are dumb enough to carry around 1000's of dollars in cash, I guess if you also keep your pin number with your bank card he could withdraw some cash and that might not be recoverable

Banks and credit card companies are required to refund any cash from your account that was withdrawn/spent fraudulently (yes, even if they use your debit card to withdraw cash). All the banks that I'm familiar with will also set a limit on how much cash you can withdraw via debit card in a day to prevent that exact thing from happening.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
Juries can choose to say he is guilty but shouldn't be punished anyway.

No, juries cannot say this. If a jury returns a verdict of guilty, the sentence range is set based on the crime(s) that the accused was convicted of; the jury cannot arbitrarily pick a number that is outside that range (including zero).

If the jury believes the many should not be punished, their only option is to return a verdict of not guilty, even if they believe he is guilty (known as "Jury Nullification").
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Solid Snake07
08/13/18 5:51:24 PM
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Were there witnesses? You can't just take this guy's word for it.

And even if that is what happened, this guy is a danger to society. What will he flip out about next and beat someone to death over?
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TheCyborgNinja
08/13/18 6:00:35 PM
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Probation. If he hadn't stolen the wallet, he'd still be alive.
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Nade Duck
08/13/18 6:18:26 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
Blighboy posted...
Seems like a pretty clear case of second degree murder but of course since Americans are notoriously bloodthirsty a lot of you will think this is okay.

bad troll

he's not wrong.
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C-Raine
08/13/18 6:20:37 PM
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I think he should sue the Theif's estate for everything it's worth. And win.

Maybe the city should give him a medal or something too, for doing his part to fight crime.

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OhhhJa
08/13/18 6:31:25 PM
#49:


Nade Duck posted...
DirtBasedSoap posted...
Blighboy posted...
Seems like a pretty clear case of second degree murder but of course since Americans are notoriously bloodthirsty a lot of you will think this is okay.

bad troll

he's not wrong.

He is though. Like others have said, there isnt much to go on here. If the attacker fought back, it could have been that he got KO'd and hit his head. That's usually how people get killed in a fight. Generally, especially if bystanders are around, people dont get beaten to a bloody pulp
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Blighboy
08/13/18 6:39:35 PM
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https://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/news/crime_police/article_8f6dc1b4-9d05-11e8-9dc0-fbf4050ab83b.html

According to police, Edwin approached Morris and asked him for a dollar outside the Express Mart Gas Station at 4140 S. Claiborne Ave. about 8:20 a.m. Friday. But Edwin then reached into Morris back pocket, snatched his wallet and ran across South Claiborne at Milan Street.

Morris caught up with him in the rear driveway of Hi Class Customs, an upholstery and window tinting shop at 4201 S. Claiborne. Morris wrested his wallet back and then began beating on Edwin with his fists, police said.

At least two people tried to restrain Morris. But he kept punching and then started kicking Edwin, who was begging Morris to stop and was attempting to cover his face and body, police said.

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