Poll of the Day > Bethesda threatened someone with legal action for selling their games -_-

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DeltaBladeX 08/11/18 4:49:24 PM #1:	https://www.pcgamer.com/bethesda-blocks-resale-of-second-hand-still-sealed-the-evil-within-2-copy/ https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/11/17661254/bethesda-sell-used-games-amazon-block --- I'm not lazy, I just don't care http://backloggery.com/DeltaBladeXNZ - https://steamcommunity.com/id/DeltaBladeX <cite>DeltaBladeX posted [p:906702386] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote>https://www.pcgamer.com/bethesda-blocks-resale-of-second-hand-still-sealed-the-evil-within-2-copy/ https://www.polygon.com/2018/8/11/17661254/bethesda-sell-used-games-amazon-block</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 08/11/18 4:51:22 PM #2:	well that's just ridiculous --- "Nobody uses Google anymore." - DPsx7 https://imgur.com/JMnvb4m <cite>likehelly posted [p:906702491] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote>well that's just ridiculous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 08/11/18 5:07:43 PM #3:	It begins! --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:906703287] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote>It begins!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jramirez23 08/11/18 5:08:55 PM #4:	Theyre mad because hes selling a new sealed copy. --- I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this who will count the votes, and how. <cite>jramirez23 posted [p:906703346] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote>Theyre mad because hes selling a new sealed copy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/11/18 5:16:06 PM #5:	Always smart to sue your customers --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906703711] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote>Always smart to sue your customers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 08/11/18 5:26:20 PM #6:	jramirez23 posted... Theyre mad because hes selling a new sealed copy. Yeah, and this is the reason why even gamestop won't take trade ins that are sealed, but telling someone you're going to file a lawsuit against them for trying to sell a single game is ridiculous --- "Nobody uses Google anymore." - DPsx7 https://imgur.com/JMnvb4m <cite>likehelly posted [p:906704191] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>jramirez23 posted...</cite> <quote>Theyre mad because hes selling a new sealed copy.</quote> Yeah, and this is the reason why even gamestop won't take trade ins that are sealed, but telling someone you're going to file a lawsuit against them for trying to sell a single game is ridiculous</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 08/11/18 5:27:33 PM #7:	Just hold onto it for 20 years and sell it to a collector. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. https://imgur.com/WOo6wcq <cite>Zareth posted [p:906704242] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote>Just hold onto it for 20 years and sell it to a collector.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/11/18 6:07:07 PM #8:	This was because the person advertised their game as new when it wasn't by my understanding. Although I still don't understand the difference between unwrapped and factory sealed. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:906706101] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote>This was because the person advertised their game as new when it wasn't by my understanding. Although I still don't understand the difference between unwrapped and factory sealed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cruddy_horse 08/11/18 6:10:43 PM #9:	Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. --- equo ne credite! <cite>Cruddy_horse posted [p:906706291] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/11/18 6:14:21 PM #10:	Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906706460] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/11/18 6:17:21 PM #11:	Mead posted... That still makes great games Hmmm. Fallout 4 and Skyrim for me wasn't as good as the other games in the series. Although I'm aware they still sell shit loads so eh. Fallout 76 also looks bad but it'll sell just as Elder Scrolls Online has/does. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:906706601] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>That still makes great games </quote> Hmmm. Fallout 4 and Skyrim for me wasn't as good as the other games in the series. Although I'm aware they still sell shit loads so eh. Fallout 76 also looks bad but it'll sell just as Elder Scrolls Online has/does.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 08/11/18 6:43:34 PM #12:	if someone bought it and re-sold it does it really matter? they just dont want these listings on the store front me thinks <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:906707832] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote>if someone bought it and re-sold it does it really matter? they just dont want these listings on the store front me thinks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nade Duck 08/11/18 6:46:22 PM #13:	Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there? --- https://imgur.com/ElACjJD "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl <cite>Nade Duck posted [p:906707950] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/11/18 6:49:00 PM #14:	Nade Duck posted... Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there? Yep! --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906708064] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there?</quote> Yep!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RoboXgp89 08/11/18 6:54:10 PM #15:	If Bethesda wasn't here all we'd get is exclusives and japanese titles <cite>RoboXgp89 posted [p:906708286] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote>If Bethesda wasn't here all we'd get is exclusives and japanese titles</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nade Duck 08/11/18 6:55:16 PM #16:	Mead posted... Nade Duck posted... Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there? Yep! well alright, i suppose. --- https://imgur.com/ElACjJD "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl <cite>Nade Duck posted [p:906708355] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there?</quote> Yep!</quote> well alright, i suppose.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 08/11/18 7:08:14 PM #17:	Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games Unfortunately. It's so much easier when the shitty companies make shitty games I don't care about, like EA and Activision. --- It's okay, I have no idea who I am either. https://imgur.com/WOo6wcq <cite>Zareth posted [p:906708953] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> Unfortunately. It's so much easier when the shitty companies make shitty games I don't care about, like EA and Activision.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/11/18 7:13:33 PM #18:	Nade Duck posted... Mead posted... Nade Duck posted... Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there? Yep! well alright, i suppose. In all seriousness theyve made a bunch of great games the last few years. Even discounting their sandbox games Doom and Prey were both amazing --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906709192] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there?</quote> Yep!</quote> well alright, i suppose.</quote> In all seriousness theyve made a bunch of great games the last few years. Even discounting their sandbox games Doom and Prey were both amazing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/11/18 10:28:01 PM #19:	wwinterj25 posted... This was because the person advertised their game as new when it wasn't by my understanding. Although I still don't understand the difference between unwrapped and factory sealed. He was selling it factory sealed. That is still new. If he unwrapped it and then he resealed it himself and tried to claim it was factory sealed then yes they would have a case. It will either get thrown out or Bethesda will be pissed once they have to pay his legal fees. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:906718712] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>This was because the person advertised their game as new when it wasn't by my understanding. Although I still don't understand the difference between unwrapped and factory sealed.</quote> He was selling it factory sealed. That is still new. If he unwrapped it and then he resealed it himself and tried to claim it was factory sealed then yes they would have a case. It will either get thrown out or Bethesda will be pissed once they have to pay his legal fees.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mario_VS_DK 08/11/18 10:34:54 PM #20:	When contacted by Polygon, Bethesda offered the following statement: Bethesda does not and will not block the sale of pre-owned games. The issue in this case is that the seller offered a pre-owned game as new on the Amazon Marketplace. We do not allow non-authorized resellers to represent what they sell as new because we cant verify that the game hasnt been opened and repackaged. This is how we help protect buyers from fraud and ensure our customers always receive authentic new product, with all enclosed materials and warranty intact. In this case, if the game had been listed as Pre-Owned, this would not have been an issue. Little bit more understandable with that, but still... --- How often do people read this? <cite>Mario_VS_DK posted [p:906719033] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>When contacted by Polygon, Bethesda offered the following statement:</cite> <quote>Bethesda does not and will not block the sale of pre-owned games. The issue in this case is that the seller offered a pre-owned game as new on the Amazon Marketplace. We do not allow non-authorized resellers to represent what they sell as new because we cant verify that the game hasnt been opened and repackaged. This is how we help protect buyers from fraud and ensure our customers always receive authentic new product, with all enclosed materials and warranty intact. In this case, if the game had been listed as Pre-Owned, this would not have been an issue.</quote> Little bit more understandable with that, but still...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 08/11/18 10:37:11 PM #21:	Mead posted... Nade Duck posted... Mead posted... Nade Duck posted... Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there? Yep! well alright, i suppose. In all seriousness theyve made a bunch of great games the last few years. Even discounting their sandbox games Doom and Prey were both amazing they didn't make those doom is made by id, prey was made by arkane Bethesda is a publisher, yknow --- "Nobody uses Google anymore." - DPsx7 https://imgur.com/JMnvb4m <cite>likehelly posted [p:906719135] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there?</quote> Yep!</quote> well alright, i suppose.</quote> In all seriousness theyve made a bunch of great games the last few years. Even discounting their sandbox games Doom and Prey were both amazing</quote> they didn't make those doom is made by id, prey was made by arkane Bethesda is a publisher, yknow</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/11/18 10:43:38 PM #22:	likehelly posted... Mead posted... Nade Duck posted... Mead posted... Nade Duck posted... Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there? Yep! well alright, i suppose. In all seriousness theyve made a bunch of great games the last few years. Even discounting their sandbox games Doom and Prey were both amazing they didn't make those doom is made by id, prey was made by arkane Bethesda is a publisher, yknow Well they helped --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906719419] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>likehelly posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there?</quote> Yep!</quote> well alright, i suppose.</quote> In all seriousness theyve made a bunch of great games the last few years. Even discounting their sandbox games Doom and Prey were both amazing</quote> they didn't make those doom is made by id, prey was made by arkane Bethesda is a publisher, yknow</quote> Well they helped</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 08/11/18 10:44:26 PM #23:	Revelation34 posted... wwinterj25 posted... This was because the person advertised their game as new when it wasn't by my understanding. Although I still don't understand the difference between unwrapped and factory sealed. He was selling it factory sealed. That is still new. If he unwrapped it and then he resealed it himself and tried to claim it was factory sealed then yes they would have a case. It will either get thrown out or Bethesda will be pissed once they have to pay his legal fees. Now I'm no big city lawyer, but it seems to me that if the man owned an unopened copy of a game and then tried to sell it then he'd be selling a pre-owned game. =p --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:906719466] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>This was because the person advertised their game as new when it wasn't by my understanding. Although I still don't understand the difference between unwrapped and factory sealed.</quote> He was selling it factory sealed. That is still new. If he unwrapped it and then he resealed it himself and tried to claim it was factory sealed then yes they would have a case. It will either get thrown out or Bethesda will be pissed once they have to pay his legal fees.</quote> Now I'm no big city lawyer, but it seems to me that if the man owned an unopened copy of a game and then tried to sell it then he'd be selling a pre-owned game. =p</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/11/18 10:49:38 PM #24:	Zeus posted... Revelation34 posted... wwinterj25 posted... This was because the person advertised their game as new when it wasn't by my understanding. Although I still don't understand the difference between unwrapped and factory sealed. He was selling it factory sealed. That is still new. If he unwrapped it and then he resealed it himself and tried to claim it was factory sealed then yes they would have a case. It will either get thrown out or Bethesda will be pissed once they have to pay his legal fees. Now I'm no big city lawyer, but it seems to me that if the man owned an unopened copy of a game and then tried to sell it then he'd be selling a pre-owned game. =p While I understand that, some people would rather buy a "new" version of a game. So, he wanted to get buyers to buy that. But while it was pre-owned, it was still basically new. Maybe amazon should make a "new pre-owned" section for sell pre-owned items still factory wrapped... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:906719727] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>This was because the person advertised their game as new when it wasn't by my understanding. Although I still don't understand the difference between unwrapped and factory sealed.</quote> He was selling it factory sealed. That is still new. If he unwrapped it and then he resealed it himself and tried to claim it was factory sealed then yes they would have a case. It will either get thrown out or Bethesda will be pissed once they have to pay his legal fees.</quote> Now I'm no big city lawyer, but it seems to me that if the man owned an unopened copy of a game and then tried to sell it then he'd be selling a pre-owned game. =p</quote> While I understand that, some people would rather buy a "new" version of a game. So, he wanted to get buyers to buy that. But while it was pre-owned, it was still basically new. Maybe amazon should make a "new pre-owned" section for sell pre-owned items still factory wrapped...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xfma100 08/11/18 10:54:05 PM #25:	Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. Speaking of which, this is right after they said that Fallout 76 won't be coming to Steam... :/ <cite>Xfma100 posted [p:906719945] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> Speaking of which, this is right after they said that Fallout 76 won't be coming to Steam... :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/11/18 11:26:56 PM #26:	Zeus posted... Now I'm no big city lawyer, but it seems to me that if the man owned an unopened copy of a game and then tried to sell it then he'd be selling a pre-owned game. =p New in this case is just factory sealed. A game can still be new and pre-owned for cases like that. They should have gone after Ebay years ago since many sellers on there sold factory sealed games as new. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:906721372] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Now I'm no big city lawyer, but it seems to me that if the man owned an unopened copy of a game and then tried to sell it then he'd be selling a pre-owned game. =p</quote> New in this case is just factory sealed. A game can still be new and pre-owned for cases like that. They should have gone after Ebay years ago since many sellers on there sold factory sealed games as new.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/12/18 12:42:59 AM #27:	Revelation34 posted... He was selling it factory sealed. That is still new. Oh... " Bethesda also took issue with Hupps use of the word new in selling the unwrapped game, claiming that this constituted false advertising. I mean if it was factory sealed then yes this is a new copy. Technically though being as the guy bought it and wants to resell it it's been through another pair of hands thus second hand despite being factory sealed. Although as far as I'm concerned if it's factory sealed it's new and games get passed through many hands before they get to you anyway. I've bought many games on ebay or the like that have "factory sealed" in the advertisement. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:906724562] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>He was selling it factory sealed. That is still new. </quote> Oh... " Bethesda also took issue with Hupps use of the word new in selling the unwrapped game, claiming that this constituted false advertising. I mean if it was factory sealed then yes this is a new copy. Technically though being as the guy bought it and wants to resell it it's been through another pair of hands thus second hand despite being factory sealed. Although as far as I'm concerned if it's factory sealed it's new and games get passed through many hands before they get to you anyway. I've bought many games on ebay or the like that have "factory sealed" in the advertisement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 08/12/18 1:33:43 AM #28:	likehelly posted... Mead posted... Nade Duck posted... Mead posted... Nade Duck posted... Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there? Yep! well alright, i suppose. In all seriousness theyve made a bunch of great games the last few years. Even discounting their sandbox games Doom and Prey were both amazing they didn't make those doom is made by id, prey was made by arkane Bethesda is a publisher, yknow Bethesda Softworks is a publisher. Bethesda Game Studios makes games. Bethesda Game Studios Austin makes games, and helped with Doom. Bethesda Game Studios Dallas makes games, and helped with Doom. These groups, ID Software and Arkane are all owned by Zenimax Studios, which makes them sister developing team that help each others. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:906726603] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>likehelly posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nade Duck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> does remaking skyrim like 20 different times and getting lucky with fallout 4 really count there?</quote> Yep!</quote> well alright, i suppose.</quote> In all seriousness theyve made a bunch of great games the last few years. Even discounting their sandbox games Doom and Prey were both amazing</quote> they didn't make those doom is made by id, prey was made by arkane Bethesda is a publisher, yknow</quote> Bethesda Softworks is a publisher. Bethesda Game Studios makes games. Bethesda Game Studios Austin makes games, and helped with Doom. Bethesda Game Studios Dallas makes games, and helped with Doom. These groups, ID Software and Arkane are all owned by Zenimax Studios, which makes them sister developing team that help each others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bugmeat 08/12/18 2:06:38 AM #29:	Mario_VS_DK posted... When contacted by Polygon, Bethesda offered the following statement: Bethesda does not and will not block the sale of pre-owned games. The issue in this case is that the seller offered a pre-owned game as new on the Amazon Marketplace. We do not allow non-authorized resellers to represent what they sell as new because we cant verify that the game hasnt been opened and repackaged. This is how we help protect buyers from fraud and ensure our customers always receive authentic new product, with all enclosed materials and warranty intact. In this case, if the game had been listed as Pre-Owned, this would not have been an issue. Little bit more understandable with that, but still... That's all well and good and if that really was all Bethesda wanted they need to make sure their legal team understands that. Because that's not what the letter the lawyers sent said. The letter told him to stop selling any all Bethesda products as well as identify all if his sources for those products he would be sued. --- John Mellencamp said it best "Life goes on long after the thrill of living is gone." <cite>Bugmeat posted [p:906727734] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mario_VS_DK posted...</cite> <quote><cite>When contacted by Polygon, Bethesda offered the following statement:</cite> <quote>Bethesda does not and will not block the sale of pre-owned games. The issue in this case is that the seller offered a pre-owned game as new on the Amazon Marketplace. We do not allow non-authorized resellers to represent what they sell as new because we cant verify that the game hasnt been opened and repackaged. This is how we help protect buyers from fraud and ensure our customers always receive authentic new product, with all enclosed materials and warranty intact. In this case, if the game had been listed as Pre-Owned, this would not have been an issue.</quote> Little bit more understandable with that, but still...</quote> That's all well and good and if that really was all Bethesda wanted they need to make sure their legal team understands that. Because that's not what the letter the lawyers sent said. The letter told him to stop selling any all Bethesda products as well as identify all if his sources for those products he would be sued.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
likehelly 08/12/18 2:10:52 AM #30:	Foppe posted... Bethesda Game Studios Austin makes games, and helped with Doom. Bethesda Game Studios Dallas makes games, and helped with Doom. uh no, they didn't. and Bethesda Austin hasn't made any games, and aren't making any games currently. the one they were making was announced, then cancelled, all in a span of several months after they laid a bunch of employees off. then in September of last year, the head producer left that studio. they aren't doing anything with Fallout 76, either. they worked on Bethesdas creation engine and, along with id, helped create the net code to allow multiplayer in that engine to exist. as for Bethesda Dallas, they really haven't done anything either. more than Austin, yes, but that's before they were bought by zenimax. they were all mobile games, with the rest being stuff they just helped work on. --- "Nobody uses Google anymore." - DPsx7 https://imgur.com/JMnvb4m <cite>likehelly posted [p:906727868] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda Game Studios Austin makes games, and helped with Doom. Bethesda Game Studios Dallas makes games, and helped with Doom.</quote> uh no, they didn't. and Bethesda Austin hasn't made any games, and aren't making any games currently. the one they were making was announced, then cancelled, all in a span of several months after they laid a bunch of employees off. then in September of last year, the head producer left that studio. they aren't doing anything with Fallout 76, either. they worked on Bethesdas creation engine and, along with id, helped create the net code to allow multiplayer in that engine to exist. as for Bethesda Dallas, they really haven't done anything either. more than Austin, yes, but that's before they were bought by zenimax. they were all mobile games, with the rest being stuff they just helped work on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 08/12/18 3:36:59 AM #31:	likehelly posted... Foppe posted... Bethesda Game Studios Austin makes games, and helped with Doom. Bethesda Game Studios Dallas makes games, and helped with Doom. uh no, they didn't. and Bethesda Austin hasn't made any games, and aren't making any games currently. the one they were making was announced, then cancelled, all in a span of several months after they laid a bunch of employees off. then in September of last year, the head producer left that studio. they aren't doing anything with Fallout 76, either. they worked on Bethesdas creation engine and, along with id, helped create the net code to allow multiplayer in that engine to exist. as for Bethesda Dallas, they really haven't done anything either. more than Austin, yes, but that's before they were bought by zenimax. they were all mobile games, with the rest being stuff they just helped work on. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:906730133] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>likehelly posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda Game Studios Austin makes games, and helped with Doom. Bethesda Game Studios Dallas makes games, and helped with Doom.</quote> uh no, they didn't. and Bethesda Austin hasn't made any games, and aren't making any games currently. the one they were making was announced, then cancelled, all in a span of several months after they laid a bunch of employees off. then in September of last year, the head producer left that studio. they aren't doing anything with Fallout 76, either. they worked on Bethesdas creation engine and, along with id, helped create the net code to allow multiplayer in that engine to exist. as for Bethesda Dallas, they really haven't done anything either. more than Austin, yes, but that's before they were bought by zenimax. they were all mobile games, with the rest being stuff they just helped work on.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 08/12/18 5:12:29 AM #32:	Mead posted... Always smart to sue your customers This. No way it'll ever backfire. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:906732231] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Always smart to sue your customers</quote> This. No way it'll ever backfire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 08/12/18 5:25:15 AM #33:	Revelation34 posted... Zeus posted... Now I'm no big city lawyer, but it seems to me that if the man owned an unopened copy of a game and then tried to sell it then he'd be selling a pre-owned game. =p New in this case is just factory sealed. A game can still be new and pre-owned for cases like that. They should have gone after Ebay years ago since many sellers on there sold factory sealed games as new. Amazon has authorized resellers, ebay largely doesn't, though. Plus it's easier to go after individuals on Amazon I think. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:906732484] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Now I'm no big city lawyer, but it seems to me that if the man owned an unopened copy of a game and then tried to sell it then he'd be selling a pre-owned game. =p</quote> New in this case is just factory sealed. A game can still be new and pre-owned for cases like that. They should have gone after Ebay years ago since many sellers on there sold factory sealed games as new.</quote> Amazon has authorized resellers, ebay largely doesn't, though. Plus it's easier to go after individuals on Amazon I think.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 08/12/18 6:47:06 AM #34:	Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games More like mildly above average games that are riddled with a metric shit-ton of bugs, that most people only really have very fond memories of because the community mods the holy hell out of them. There really isn't anything exceptional or great about most Bethesda games, and almost everything they do someone else has done better at some point. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:906733843] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> More like mildly above average games that are riddled with a metric shit-ton of bugs, that most people only really have very fond memories of because the community mods the holy hell out of them. There really isn't anything exceptional or great about most Bethesda games, and almost everything they do someone else has done better at some point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 08/12/18 6:50:53 AM #35:	Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games You can be shitty and still do good stuff.... like, Hitler built the Autobahn --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:906733904] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> You can be shitty and still do good stuff.... like, Hitler built the Autobahn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 08/12/18 7:46:11 AM #36:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games More like mildly above average games that are riddled with a metric shit-ton of bugs, that most people only really have very fond memories of because the community mods the holy hell out of them. There really isn't anything exceptional or great about most Bethesda games, and almost everything they do someone else has done better at some point. Golly mister --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:906734894] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> More like mildly above average games that are riddled with a metric shit-ton of bugs, that most people only really have very fond memories of because the community mods the holy hell out of them. There really isn't anything exceptional or great about most Bethesda games, and almost everything they do someone else has done better at some point. </quote> Golly mister</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sonicplys 08/12/18 7:59:57 AM #37:	Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games Wow some people like unfinished garbage. Good to know. --- SF Giants, SF 49ers, GS Warriors (2018 NBA champions), SJ Sharks The 2017 Game of the Year: The Legend of Mario: Odyssey of the Wild 20/10 <cite>Sonicplys posted [p:906735176] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> Wow some people like unfinished garbage. Good to know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nade Duck 08/12/18 8:03:59 AM #38:	Sonicplys posted... Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games Wow some people like unfinished garbage. Good to know. i mean it's been that way since morrowind so it's not that surprising. --- https://imgur.com/ElACjJD "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl <cite>Nade Duck posted [p:906735254] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sonicplys posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> Wow some people like unfinished garbage. Good to know.</quote> i mean it's been that way since morrowind so it's not that surprising.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/12/18 2:44:24 PM #39:	wwinterj25 posted... Oh... " Bethesda also took issue with Hupps use of the word new in selling the unwrapped game, claiming that this constituted false advertising. I mean if it was factory sealed then yes this is a new copy. Technically though being as the guy bought it and wants to resell it it's been through another pair of hands thus second hand despite being factory sealed. Although as far as I'm concerned if it's factory sealed it's new and games get passed through many hands before they get to you anyway. I've bought many games on ebay or the like that have "factory sealed" in the advertisement. Yes I use to buy them like that too. The only issue is sometimes scammers can make something look factory sealed but that's incredibly rare to do and hard to do also. ParanoidObsessive posted... More like mildly above average games that are riddled with a metric shit-ton of bugs, that most people only really have very fond memories of because the community mods the holy hell out of them. There really isn't anything exceptional or great about most Bethesda games, and almost everything they do someone else has done better at some point. Modders made the lore? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:906751422] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>Oh... " Bethesda also took issue with Hupps use of the word new in selling the unwrapped game, claiming that this constituted false advertising. I mean if it was factory sealed then yes this is a new copy. Technically though being as the guy bought it and wants to resell it it's been through another pair of hands thus second hand despite being factory sealed. Although as far as I'm concerned if it's factory sealed it's new and games get passed through many hands before they get to you anyway. I've bought many games on ebay or the like that have "factory sealed" in the advertisement.</quote> Yes I use to buy them like that too. The only issue is sometimes scammers can make something look factory sealed but that's incredibly rare to do and hard to do also. <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote>More like mildly above average games that are riddled with a metric shit-ton of bugs, that most people only really have very fond memories of because the community mods the holy hell out of them. There really isn't anything exceptional or great about most Bethesda games, and almost everything they do someone else has done better at some point. </quote> Modders made the lore?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/12/18 5:21:29 PM #40:	Revelation34 posted... Yes I use to buy them like that too. The only issue is sometimes scammers can make something look factory sealed but that's incredibly rare to do and hard to do also. Yeah I've never seen that thankfully. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/kDysIcd <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:906759923] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes I use to buy them like that too. The only issue is sometimes scammers can make something look factory sealed but that's incredibly rare to do and hard to do also.</quote> Yeah I've never seen that thankfully.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sull56ivan2010 08/14/18 12:50:51 AM #41:	@Sonicplys posted... Mead posted... Cruddy_horse posted... Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years. That still makes great games Wow some people like unfinished garbage. Good to know. Butthurt much? <cite>sull56ivan2010 posted [p:906843597] in Bethesda t... [t:76893900]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Sonicplys posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Cruddy_horse posted...</cite> <quote>Bethesda has become such a shitty company in the past few years.</quote> That still makes great games </quote> Wow some people like unfinished garbage. Good to know.</quote> Butthurt much?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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