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IfGodCouldDie
08/10/18 11:46:04 AM
#1:


I didn't grab votals before making this topic, sorry.
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Crescent-Moon
08/10/18 11:47:40 AM
#2:


Votals were recent anyway... They were also wrong.
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IfGodCouldDie
08/10/18 11:47:46 AM
#3:


Also really digging the PJ replace, I feel like Sheep has already added more to the game than PJ did.
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eaedwards6400
08/10/18 11:48:22 AM
#4:


Sheep007 posted...
eaedwards6400 posted...
ColZach posted...
Eaed is town. Id elaborate on this but out of embarrassment Id really rather not. Yall are just gonna have to trust me on this, eaed 100% confirmed as his claimed role.


Town should never be 100% so I assume he has a power.

Ohh, role cop not flavour cop, my bad. I think this was a weak place to claim if he's town, there's little point in revealing that about a very likely town player. He is new, right?


eaedwards6400 posted...
I think this is his third game playing on a board he said.

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htaeD
08/10/18 11:48:27 AM
#5:


Sheep, I am gonna need your claim here.

##Vote: Sheep

(Its also what Corrik would have wanted!)
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Crescent-Moon
08/10/18 11:49:26 AM
#6:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Also really digging the PJ replace, I feel like Sheep has already added more to the game than PJ did.

Because he has.
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Crescent-Moon
08/10/18 11:49:45 AM
#7:


Why is he getting votes for not claiming, though?
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eaedwards6400
08/10/18 11:49:50 AM
#8:


Current Votals (Last vote #5)

[3] - Sheep(Formerly PJ) - (Puns), (IGCD), (Scare), (Eaed), Sultan, Han, Death
[2] - Panth - Tony, (Zach), (Puns), Scare, (IGCD)
[1] - IGCD - (Han), Panth
[1] - MZero - (Han), Tange, (Crescent), (Sultan)
[1] - Tange - MZero
[1] - Red - (IGCD), (Sultan), (IGCD), Crescent
[0] - Han - (MZero), (IGCD)
[0] - Sultan - (Scare), (IGCD), (puns), (Eaed)
[0] - Edumey - (Crescent)
[0] - Scare - (Sultan)

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Day ends 11:00 PM EDT on Friday.
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Dark Young Link
08/10/18 11:50:08 AM
#9:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Votals were recent anyway... They were also wrong.


Were they wrong even after the correct? If hope not but if so holy crap my sleep schedule is messing me up >_>
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Crescent-Moon
08/10/18 11:50:57 AM
#10:


Oh if you fixed Han's unvote they might've been ok then.
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Sheep007
08/10/18 11:52:33 AM
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Sure you don't like me just cause I called you town, IGCD mate?

Honestly PJ was one of my scumreads as an observer, although Ben and Red were both stronger ones. I don't feel like my new perspective adds much, since PJ barely interacted with anyone himself (although others commented on him, it was mostly similar stuff. Blah blah inactive blah blah doing nothing, which to fair was basically true. People who I'm reading Town like Puns voted him seemingly out of frustration at times).
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turbopuns2
08/10/18 11:54:14 AM
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Whoever pointed out the Tange/MZero voting each other thing...is likely onto something.

Honestly what are the odds that with all the power claims and panth and easy safe suspects like red and pj, that Town Tange and Town MZero both try to kill each other, through all the chaos around them?

Han likes MZero and I like Han well enough, plus MZero stands alone whereas Tange followed onto MZero (I think?)

I would guess Tange is Scum and MZero is Town.
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htaeD
08/10/18 11:54:19 AM
#13:


Crescent-Moon posted...
Why is he getting votes for not claiming, though?


Part anger that pj lied. Unfair to sheep I know, but still.
Part standard replace protocol, on a day with no set lynch even.
Part desire for full understanding of Zams miller comment.

That said, I suppose Sheep taking back the claim to begin with is unexpected (and risky if he is scum)
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Sheep007
08/10/18 11:54:47 AM
#14:


htaeD posted...
Sheep, I am gonna need your claim here.

Sorry Death, I'm gonna need to not claim here. It's what Corrik would have done in my position. Or, rather, he would have fake claimed a different Town role to mine, but I really don't fancy a gambit like that when I'm a bit rusty.

But hey, you know I'm not Miller and that's good enough, right?
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ChaosTonyV4
08/10/18 11:55:04 AM
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Sheep007 posted...
Sure you don't like me just cause I called you town, IGCD mate?

Honestly PJ was one of my scumreads as an observer, although Ben and Red were both stronger ones. I don't feel like my new perspective adds much, since PJ barely interacted with anyone himself (although others commented on him, it was mostly similar stuff. Blah blah inactive blah blah doing nothing, which to fair was basically true. People who I'm reading Town like Puns voted him seemingly out of frustration at times).


Can you explain your feelings on Ben, Red, and Puns for me?
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Crescent-Moon
08/10/18 11:55:14 AM
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As far as I am concerned, Pj never claimed anything, ever, so....
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Sheep007
08/10/18 11:57:17 AM
#17:


htaeD posted...
Crescent-Moon posted...
Why is he getting votes for not claiming, though?


Part anger that pj lied. Unfair to sheep I know, but still.
Part standard replace protocol, on a day with no set lynch even.
Part desire for full understanding of Zams miller comment.

That said, I suppose Sheep taking back the claim to begin with is unexpected (and risky if he is scum)

Taking back the fake miller claim which should have been obviously fake is unexpected? Really?

I understand the votes from a pressure standpoint (the others I'd like to look into such as Ben and Red aren't here now, which is why I haven't done what others are doing to me), but I'm not claiming regardless of the votes I get, and it'd be stupid to lynch me over me not wanting to claim when there's, in my opinion, better targets.
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htaeD
08/10/18 11:59:51 AM
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Its the fact that Pj said he was miller today as well
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HanOfTheNekos
08/10/18 11:59:59 AM
#19:


turbopuns2 posted...
Whoever pointed out the Tange/MZero voting each other thing...is likely onto something.

Honestly what are the odds that with all the power claims and panth and easy safe suspects like red and pj, that Town Tange and Town MZero both try to kill each other, through all the chaos around them?

Han likes MZero and I like Han well enough, plus MZero stands alone whereas Tange followed onto MZero (I think?)

I would guess Tange is Scum and MZero is Town.


Yeah, Tange looked really bad for hopping on the me/MZero kerfuffle, and I would've gone all Ace Attorney on him if it wasn't for IGCD getting me riled up.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Also really digging the PJ replace, I feel like Sheep has already added more to the game than PJ did.

Sheep007 posted...
Sure you don't like me just cause I called you town, IGCD mate?

Honestly PJ was one of my scumreads as an observer, although Ben and Red were both stronger ones. I don't feel like my new perspective adds much, since PJ barely interacted with anyone himself (although others commented on him, it was mostly similar stuff. Blah blah inactive blah blah doing nothing, which to fair was basically true. People who I'm reading Town like Puns voted him seemingly out of frustration at times).


This exchange looks kinda like IGCD trying to boost up his new Scummate and that new Scummate trying to keep an arm's separation.
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Crescent-Moon
08/10/18 12:00:11 PM
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turbopuns2 posted...
Whoever pointed out the Tange/MZero voting each other thing...is likely onto something.

Honestly what are the odds that with all the power claims and panth and easy safe suspects like red and pj, that Town Tange and Town MZero both try to kill each other, through all the chaos around them?

Han likes MZero and I like Han well enough, plus MZero stands alone whereas Tange followed onto MZero (I think?)

I would guess Tange is Scum and MZero is Town.

I pointed it out as an observation more than anything. I'm trying to remember the context in which they voted each other.
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HanOfTheNekos
08/10/18 12:01:54 PM
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Crescent-Moon posted...
turbopuns2 posted...
Whoever pointed out the Tange/MZero voting each other thing...is likely onto something.

Honestly what are the odds that with all the power claims and panth and easy safe suspects like red and pj, that Town Tange and Town MZero both try to kill each other, through all the chaos around them?

Han likes MZero and I like Han well enough, plus MZero stands alone whereas Tange followed onto MZero (I think?)

I would guess Tange is Scum and MZero is Town.

I pointed it out as an observation more than anything. I'm trying to remember the context in which they voted each other.


Tange hopped on MZero after I posted my "claws out" attack on him. MZero hopped on Tange after I said "I don't think MZero is Scum and I'm using this to gauge peoples' actions and Tange looks awful".
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ChaosTonyV4
08/10/18 12:01:59 PM
#22:


Sheep007 posted...
I feel like there's tons of power claims in this game. Is this normal for a Chris game? Because I don't believe that all of our power has claimed yet either. However, it's very difficult to believe Ed is scum unless he's with Tony, and that's just a bit too big of a gambit for me to believe they'd take. I believe Sultan too, the claim just seems too genuine and was clearly preplanned if it was from scum, something I don't really see him doing. If I was going to pick one to lynch, it would definitely be Panth, but again as someone else pointed out I don't see any other scum role visiting Tony. There's also FD and I imagine at least one other.


Youve already softclaimed as Im concerned.

After refusing to claim here, if you end up claiming something with might actions we could use, youre going straight to the top of the scumlist, just so were clear.
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Sheep007
08/10/18 12:02:50 PM
#23:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Sheep007 posted...
Sure you don't like me just cause I called you town, IGCD mate?

Honestly PJ was one of my scumreads as an observer, although Ben and Red were both stronger ones. I don't feel like my new perspective adds much, since PJ barely interacted with anyone himself (although others commented on him, it was mostly similar stuff. Blah blah inactive blah blah doing nothing, which to fair was basically true. People who I'm reading Town like Puns voted him seemingly out of frustration at times).


Can you explain your feelings on Ben, Red, and Puns for me?

Ben and Red are up there as Scum for several reasons. Let's start with Red. Red is obviously a player most hold in high esteem here, and he has done bugger all. Not really gone on a sustained attack on anyone, not been particularly pushed or pushed anyone, except perhaps in his interaction with Scare earlier, and Corrik, who are my strongest non-claimed Town read and confirmed Town respectively. Ben is up there for a similar reason - he's been completely unmemorable. Another reason, honestly, is process of elimination. I have a lot of Town reads right now. Honestly, considering the amount who have claimed power, and the fact I think most of those are Town, I'm likely to be wrong on one of them. However, Ben has not had one single interaction with anyone all game which I particularly liked him in. Again, going under the radar. Puns I like partially because of the Leo fake-out, which is very unlikely to happen with two scum, and partially because of his general content generation. As I said earlier, I think most if not all Scum have gone under the radar this game.
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Crescent-Moon
08/10/18 12:03:02 PM
#24:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Crescent-Moon posted...
turbopuns2 posted...
Whoever pointed out the Tange/MZero voting each other thing...is likely onto something.

Honestly what are the odds that with all the power claims and panth and easy safe suspects like red and pj, that Town Tange and Town MZero both try to kill each other, through all the chaos around them?

Han likes MZero and I like Han well enough, plus MZero stands alone whereas Tange followed onto MZero (I think?)

I would guess Tange is Scum and MZero is Town.

I pointed it out as an observation more than anything. I'm trying to remember the context in which they voted each other.


Tange hopped on MZero after I posted my "claws out" attack on him. MZero hopped on Tange after I said "I don't think MZero is Scum and I'm using this to gauge peoples' actions and Tange looks awful".

Oh Tange was that useless vote on him right before I voted him so he wouldn't vanish, right?

Why is Tange still on him?
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eaedwards6400
08/10/18 12:11:28 PM
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It turns out I need to actual work today... I'll be back later hopefully
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HanOfTheNekos
08/10/18 12:16:15 PM
#26:


Crescent-Moon posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Crescent-Moon posted...
turbopuns2 posted...
Whoever pointed out the Tange/MZero voting each other thing...is likely onto something.

Honestly what are the odds that with all the power claims and panth and easy safe suspects like red and pj, that Town Tange and Town MZero both try to kill each other, through all the chaos around them?

Han likes MZero and I like Han well enough, plus MZero stands alone whereas Tange followed onto MZero (I think?)

I would guess Tange is Scum and MZero is Town.

I pointed it out as an observation more than anything. I'm trying to remember the context in which they voted each other.


Tange hopped on MZero after I posted my "claws out" attack on him. MZero hopped on Tange after I said "I don't think MZero is Scum and I'm using this to gauge peoples' actions and Tange looks awful".

Oh Tange was that useless vote on him right before I voted him so he wouldn't vanish, right?

Why is Tange still on him?


Despite me saying I felt fine with MZero's response, Tange has ignored it. Presumably so he can continue keeping a vote on someone without providing any content.
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turbopuns2
08/10/18 12:16:20 PM
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I agree with Tony's sentiment about Sheep.
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turbopuns2
08/10/18 12:18:19 PM
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I'm really quite perplexed by the fact two power softclaims have happened today. Like my initial reaction is to suspect them, but goodness why would scum be trying to claim more power when nobody to my knowledge has actually claimed they're vanilla yet?
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Crescent-Moon
08/10/18 12:20:12 PM
#29:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Crescent-Moon posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Crescent-Moon posted...
turbopuns2 posted...
Whoever pointed out the Tange/MZero voting each other thing...is likely onto something.

Honestly what are the odds that with all the power claims and panth and easy safe suspects like red and pj, that Town Tange and Town MZero both try to kill each other, through all the chaos around them?

Han likes MZero and I like Han well enough, plus MZero stands alone whereas Tange followed onto MZero (I think?)

I would guess Tange is Scum and MZero is Town.

I pointed it out as an observation more than anything. I'm trying to remember the context in which they voted each other.


Tange hopped on MZero after I posted my "claws out" attack on him. MZero hopped on Tange after I said "I don't think MZero is Scum and I'm using this to gauge peoples' actions and Tange looks awful".

Oh Tange was that useless vote on him right before I voted him so he wouldn't vanish, right?

Why is Tange still on him?


Despite me saying I felt fine with MZero's response, Tange has ignored it. Presumably so he can continue keeping a vote on someone without providing any content.

Tange has posted between then and now, hasn't he? I also found his response acceptable enough to remove my vote.
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benjamin3740
08/10/18 12:21:43 PM
#30:


ScareChan posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
he not modkilling any one, he's preventing a blow up because that's where it's headed.

alsoLeafeon13N posted...
Corrik was either caught with his hand in the cookie jar or zam was an idiot.

Both are plausible, honestly.


your an ass red.

like I said being called an idiot.


hmm


I have a theory. What if the reason Alakazam was so triggered in this game was because the harshest yelling at him was done by his own scum on their board? The only person he called out like this is Red, which makes it feel like there is deeper context behind it. Did anyone else use the word "idiot"?
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htaeD
08/10/18 12:24:01 PM
#31:


Keep in mind that we dont know what Plum was.
As long as that remains true, they can claim at least one extra power.

Also I guess Sheep is not gonna claim. If nothing else, thats admirable.

##Unvote
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htaeD
08/10/18 12:24:32 PM
#32:


benjamin3740 posted...
ScareChan posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
he not modkilling any one, he's preventing a blow up because that's where it's headed.

alsoLeafeon13N posted...
Corrik was either caught with his hand in the cookie jar or zam was an idiot.

Both are plausible, honestly.


your an ass red.

like I said being called an idiot.


hmm


I have a theory. What if the reason Alakazam was so triggered in this game was because the harshest yelling at him was done by his own scum on their board? The only person he called out like this is Red, which makes it feel like there is deeper context behind it. Did anyone else use the word "idiot"?


FD used a lot of bad words, but that was after the meltdown.
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benjamin3740
08/10/18 12:27:11 PM
#33:


Also I saw people talking about how I defended Alakazam. Yes, I am used to giving him way too much benefit of the doubt and thought there was nothing truly damning about his Watcher claim until the moment he didnt take the claim back right after the counter. That is when I decided he can be scum faking. I voted Corrik because before that moment he had not posted at all and I wanted to pressure him. I felt Zam was getting more than enough attention and his alignment was becoming more and more clear anyway. No need to vote for him. Then later Zam SAID he was scum, and that is when I made a crusade against Scare with the knowledge that Zam is scum, but it's not like I intended to save Alakazam with my Scare or Corrik votes.
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HanOfTheNekos
08/10/18 12:27:20 PM
#34:


benjamin3740 posted...
I have a theory. What if the reason Alakazam was so triggered in this game was because the harshest yelling at him was done by his own scum on their board? The only person he called out like this is Red, which makes it feel like there is deeper context behind it. Did anyone else use the word "idiot"?


Ok, so... duh?

I was under the impression that most of us assumed this was the case. We all know what happened in the game here wasn't that bad, but after the way Zam messed up, it's very likely he got grilled on the Scumboard. And I was under the impression we were silently agreeing not to meta based on his implosion.
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Sheep007
08/10/18 12:28:16 PM
#35:


htaeD posted...
Keep in mind that we dont know what Plum was.
As long as that remains true, they can claim at least one extra power.

Is it likely that Plum was vanilla? I didn't see much of a hint about his role from him, and I genuinely do trust most of the power claims.
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benjamin3740
08/10/18 12:28:52 PM
#36:


Sheep is town as far as I'm concerned for the Eddie Vedder claim
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HanOfTheNekos
08/10/18 12:30:32 PM
#37:


benjamin3740 posted...
Sheep is town as far as I'm concerned for the Eddie Vedder claim


Why
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Sheep007
08/10/18 12:31:46 PM
#38:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Sheep is town as far as I'm concerned for the Eddie Vedder claim


Why

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Sheep007
08/10/18 12:34:34 PM
#39:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
I have a theory. What if the reason Alakazam was so triggered in this game was because the harshest yelling at him was done by his own scum on their board? The only person he called out like this is Red, which makes it feel like there is deeper context behind it. Did anyone else use the word "idiot"?


Ok, so... duh?

I was under the impression that most of us assumed this was the case. We all know what happened in the game here wasn't that bad, but after the way Zam messed up, it's very likely he got grilled on the Scumboard. And I was under the impression we were silently agreeing not to meta based on his implosion.

I'd like to meta a little. It's a basic one and I'm sure most realised anyway, but his outburst basically puts Tony in the tier below completely modconfirmed. I don't see a way in hell Zam doesn't get pissed at Tony in public if they're scumbuds. Would have been unlikely as a gambit whoever it was, but it means I'm not even paranoid about Tony being scum due to some massive convoluted theory, which is unusual for me.
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benjamin3740
08/10/18 12:35:59 PM
#40:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
I have a theory. What if the reason Alakazam was so triggered in this game was because the harshest yelling at him was done by his own scum on their board? The only person he called out like this is Red, which makes it feel like there is deeper context behind it. Did anyone else use the word "idiot"?


Ok, so... duh?

I was under the impression that most of us assumed this was the case. We all know what happened in the game here wasn't that bad, but after the way Zam messed up, it's very likely he got grilled on the Scumboard. And I was under the impression we were silently agreeing not to meta based on his implosion.

I didnt think of it. And would it really be wrong to meta off of that?
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benjamin3740
08/10/18 12:36:36 PM
#41:


Sheep007 posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Sheep is town as far as I'm concerned for the Eddie Vedder claim


Why

That was a joke because Eddie vedder is bae
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turbopuns2
08/10/18 12:38:06 PM
#42:


here is an interesting post which happened after zam's meltdown but slightly before he outright claimed mafia

IfGodCouldDie posted...
umm... why the fuck does Zam have so many votes? i just finished catching up and no one that is voting him has provided a reasonable argument for his lynch.
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Crescent-Moon
08/10/18 12:38:20 PM
#43:


Ok I have to start getting ready for work.

The push on Sheep came off an awkward and "policy" to me. Didn't like it.

I feel like a lot of people have said "Red is probably scum", but it's hard to get any actual momentum on him. He's certainly not given me a strong reason to hesitate being on him.
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benjamin3740
08/10/18 12:38:34 PM
#44:


Alright I'm joining this crusade and not JUST because Red is voted most likely to scold Zam on scumboard

##Vote: Red
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Sheep007
08/10/18 12:41:31 PM
#45:


I think I played with him a few times years ago and he was similar, which is why I'm asking this instead of being suspicious, but is Death normally quite non-confrontational? I felt like he'd been contributing when reading his posts as an observer, but there doesn't seem a lot of bite or aggression in his play. The vote on me particularly seemed that way, to pick a more recent thing, since effectively all I said was I wasn't going to claim and he peeled off me, without any really effort to get a claim.
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Sheep007
08/10/18 12:43:33 PM
#46:


Ooh one of my top scumreads is here and voting the other. I'd like to see how this one goes.

##Vote: Ben

Hey, man, claim please.
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EDumey
08/10/18 12:43:57 PM
#47:


Available a little earlier than normal! I did a once over, but I'm going to read through a bit slower and see what sticks out to me. If anyone has specific questions for me, I should be pretty free to answer for the next few hours.
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Sheep007
08/10/18 12:47:09 PM
#48:


EDumey posted...
Available a little earlier than normal! I did a once over, but I'm going to read through a bit slower and see what sticks out to me. If anyone has specific questions for me, I should be pretty free to answer for the next few hours.

What're your thoughts on...

MZero and Han's interaction earlier in this day
Tange
Sultan
Crescent and Red

Doesn't need to be urgent but I'd like to hear it once you catch up
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turbopuns2
08/10/18 12:48:28 PM
#49:


plum's will

masterplum posted...
I think the twilight period idea is interesting, but man have some of these posts been hard to get through.

Zams flip is going to tell us quite a bit. If he is a decent power then some of the people who sloppily protected him are probably scum instead of bad town.

If I die I would look at reactions of the claim before the counter.

If he is power look for people who buy him instantly with a shoddy reason (not those who give no reason, but rather feel obligated to give a reason)

If he is vanilla look for people who doubt him for little or no reason in an effort to look like they are bussing. Remember if someone lynches correctly every day they are scum not town.

Anyways if I die N1 again toodles
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benjamin3740
08/10/18 12:49:26 PM
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Sheep007 posted...
Ooh one of my top scumreads is here and voting the other. I'd like to see how this one goes.

##Vote: Ben

Hey, man, claim please.

Woah man, wanna take me to a movie first?

For what reason do you want me to claim? You think I havent said enough for you to garner a read? Let's talk this out instead then.
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