Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XX: Discussion Topic [smfffc]

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th3l3fty
08/10/18 7:12:57 PM
#51:


three in a row...
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Mobilezoid
08/10/18 7:14:44 PM
#52:


What are the remaining debut characters? We may as well try to keep the streak alive.
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th3l3fty
08/11/18 3:24:08 PM
#53:


debuts:
Cindy Aurum
Hakutaro Inaba
Iris Amicitia
Mustadio Bunansa
O'aka XXIII
Rapha Galthena
Reks
X-ATM092
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mnkboy907
08/11/18 6:33:10 PM
#54:


Woo, no rounds while I was driving.
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kateee
08/11/18 6:34:46 PM
#55:


we want the damn round now!!!11

riot! riot! rriot!
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GenesisSaga
08/11/18 6:46:40 PM
#56:


we want the damn contest
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CelesMyUserName
08/11/18 6:51:25 PM
#57:


we want the damn contest cancelled
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th3l3fty
08/11/18 11:20:20 PM
#58:


95. MMO STATS

CXVII - 49/100
CXVIII - 69/100
CXIX - 23/100
CXX - 95/100 (Booted)

Unlike fellow XIV STATS member Gaius, Y'shtola has never really had anyone to push her far without a few lucky breaks here and there, although it should be noted that her showing last year was the best of any XI/XIV character to date. Unfortunately, hard boots hurt a lot more with so few appearances, so Y'shtola debuts at 42.00%, slotting in at 71st overall in the STATS.
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th3l3fty
08/11/18 11:21:25 PM
#59:


I just updated the all-time roster, and the eight additions to this contest have pushed the total number of entrants over 20 contests to... exactly 200.

Good work, team.
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Luis_Sera89
08/12/18 11:21:42 AM
#60:


Round went up just after I fell asleep, so I couldn't save her. Oh well, maybe my Discord notifications need to be louder.
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th3l3fty
08/12/18 2:37:18 PM
#61:


we've had three "real" people in the last two contests

and now they have all been hard booted
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Lopen
08/12/18 2:40:57 PM
#62:


Kind of a shame she probably won't ever get stats

Was that her third or second contest?
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LiquidOshawott
08/12/18 2:45:24 PM
#63:


Second

Who knows, Im sure someone will nominate her two contests from now, these hard boots so far seem kinda meh
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Lopen
08/12/18 2:56:13 PM
#64:


Well I wasn't lying about people who supported her largely abandoning Brave Exvius, being one of them. Between the power creep and repetitive grindy events that game has been hemorrhaging players on b8. Still has a decent amount but none are SMFFFC people aside from like Kleenex p sure (who wasn't even one of her supporters)
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WhiteLens
08/12/18 3:06:29 PM
#65:


Me, Kleenex, and voltch are the ones that still play that participate in the contest. (and maybe FFD, but I don't know if he participates in the contest anymore, and he drifts between playing and not playing)

Needless to say I don't think much of her supporters really played the game and it was like that last year too.
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v_charon
08/12/18 3:08:55 PM
#66:


Never suggest that ever.
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Lopen
08/12/18 3:11:06 PM
#67:


Eh I'd say about half of her supporters played the game. Given she wasn't exactly a powerhouse to begin with she needed every bit of support she could get to stay alive.
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Zelos
08/12/18 3:18:54 PM
#68:


if the round had lasted like 2 more minutes I would have gotten her
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th3l3fty
08/12/18 3:35:13 PM
#69:


WhiteLens posted...
Me, Kleenex, and voltch are the ones that still play that participate in the contest.


voltch doesn't participate anymore either
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Lopen
08/12/18 3:41:40 PM
#70:


Pretty sure Voltch and FFD could be counted on to save her once in a while-- not that they were regulars but Exvius + not being opposed to her. Me and numbers would too pretty often and used to play the game. Just off the top of my head.

Numbers probably would save her either way with or without Exvius to be fair were he here but maybe not. He may have hit the point like me where disenfranchisement put him off from saving her.
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WhiteLens
08/12/18 3:44:53 PM
#71:


If I'm remembering right, Numbers ragequit because he couldn't pull 2B from the Nier Automata banner after making so many pulls or something like that. So it definitely wasn't because of the lack of FF characters in the game.

Oh yeah, I forgot that voltch decided not to participate this year.
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Lopen
08/12/18 3:46:09 PM
#72:


Pretty sure numbers has 2 Clouds so he definitely kept playing after that. Though that was definitely a big part of why he stopped I'm sure
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swordz9
08/12/18 3:46:15 PM
#73:


I was just thinking I hadnt seen voltch in these topics. RIP fellow Lightning supporter.
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v_charon
08/12/18 7:12:53 PM
#75:


Pretty sure I remember seeing voltch say he was out.

Also, what placement was Ariana last year?
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th3l3fty
08/12/18 7:15:59 PM
#76:


Dangerous Ariana got 13th last year
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mnkbear907
08/12/18 7:21:25 PM
#77:


IIRC I was in a position to kill her much earlier than that, but I was holding out for a NR that never came and then she was saved.
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greengravy294
08/12/18 11:15:37 PM
#78:


I just realized we didn't nominate Lyse

whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooops
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GenesisSaga
08/14/18 2:42:19 AM
#79:


Boobs.
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kateee
08/14/18 2:55:48 AM
#80:


O_O
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CelesMyUserName
08/14/18 3:24:46 AM
#81:


( Y ) (n_n )
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FBike1
08/14/18 5:27:03 PM
#82:


3AM round coming, I can feel it!
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th3l3fty
08/15/18 8:59:19 PM
#83:


3AM is possible, but don't count on it in boots.

92. Seifer Almasy

CVIII - 16/75
CIX - 15/75
CX - 50/75
CXI - 68/75 (Booted)
CXIV - 82/102
CXV - 78/100
CXVI - 86/100 (Booted)
CXVIII - 25/100
CXIX - 63/100
CXX - 92/100 (Booted)

Seifer had a great first two appearances, but since then he's struggled to do much of anything, with only one top half appearance since. His STATS may have been bad to begin with, but this boot drops him hard, from 42.14% to 38.83%, down seven spots from 70th to 77th place.
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th3l3fty
08/16/18 5:41:35 PM
#84:


90. Gau

CXI - 55/75
CXII - 47/75
CXIII - 65/75
CXIV - 96/102 (Booted)
CXVIII - 67/100
CXIX - 16/100
CXX - 90/100 (Booted)

This has been a year of nasty rebounds, as Gau becomes the third of last year's top 25 placers to get the boot. Unlike the others, this is far more familiar territory for Gau, having only escaped the bottom third of the field twice. Gau drops from 34.53% to 31.17%, and, thanks to some heavy grouping in the range, tumbles from 87th to 94th place.
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KommunistKoala
08/16/18 6:08:53 PM
#85:


You skipped a number
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Lopen
08/16/18 6:10:47 PM
#86:


Echo skipped a number
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CelesMyUserName
08/16/18 6:13:28 PM
#87:


echo doesn't qualify STATS

160. Echo 38.50%
1. XIX: 67.00% (34/100)
2. XX: 10.00% (91/100)
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th3l3fty
08/17/18 9:27:07 PM
#88:


89. Bartz Klauser

CI - 33/40
CII - 27/45
CIII - 41/50
CIV - 35/55
CV - 49/60
CVI - 57/65
CVII - 29/70
CVIII - 21/75
CIX - 43/75
CX - 36/75
CXI - 42/75
CXII - 56/75
CXIII - 34/75
CXIV - 16/102
CXV - 98/100 (Booted)
CXVII - 75/100
CXVIII - 87/100 (Booted)
CXX - 89/100 (Booted)

Bartz has never quite managed to find a real footing - despite surviving the first 14 contests without boots, he only broke into the top half in five of those appearances, two just barely. Naturally, after stringing together two in a row, he promptly fell flat and got booted. In his three appearances since then, he's added two more boots and survived boots by one round. Oof.

It's hard to move much with eighteen contests under your belt, so this only pushes Bartz from 37.72% to 36.29%, dropping two spots to 81st.
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th3l3fty
08/18/18 7:23:26 PM
#89:


I'm going to have to cancel today's round - my connection is totally shot right now and I'm not sure when it'll come back up.

(no, I don't have Comcast)
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Janus5k
08/18/18 7:24:17 PM
#90:


bring back Leonhart
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CelesMyUserName
08/18/18 7:26:43 PM
#91:


at least we know hurrah time to relax
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v_charon
08/18/18 7:39:11 PM
#92:


Janus5k posted...
bring back Leonhart


You'd be guaranteed only 1 round on the weekend still.
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mnkbear907
08/18/18 8:25:13 PM
#93:


Bring back the big stick.
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greengravy294
08/18/18 8:27:09 PM
#94:


Ban th3l3fty
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th3l3fty
08/19/18 12:12:31 AM
#95:


While we're taking a quick break, I have some unfortunate business to take care of. First, the conclusion: StifledSilence and Great_Paul are banned for the duration of SMFFFCXX. Stifled's ban is for repeatedly violating the "no alts" rule, while Paul's ban is for violation of the stipulation against the lending of accounts (in this case, the account Great_Ball).

It's very difficult to prove someone is alt voting these days - it's very easy to simply claim that you texted them, sent them a DM on their messaging client of choice, or even shouted across the house. It would be simple to prove if usermap information were public, but in absence of that, the best way is to find ample evidence.

1. If you paid enough attention to the first eleven rounds of this contest, you may have noticed that a few users always seemed to manage to save around the same time. Obviously, this isn't proof in and of itself, as we've had many siblings and married couples participate over the years. But when one user always saves within the same time frame of another round after round, it becomes more and more suspicious. Whenever Great_Ball saved, there was almost always a Stifled save about a minute away from it. Generally, when this pattern deviated, it was when it was late enough in the round that they would only get one save each.

2. For most of this contest, I've been using RNG to decide exactly when to put it up. Yesterday, though, I specifically made sure to post the round about an hour after Great_Paul saved in BetrayedTangy's Save My Father Figure. At about 3:30 PM ET yesterday, Great_Paul had been online about 45 minutes earlier and Stifled about 2 hours earlier.
Great_Ball's last visit, meanwhile, was at 12:42 PM ET the day prior - which just so happened to be the time of Great_Ball's last save in SMFFFC.
I proceeded to post the round, at which point Stifled received the Discord ping. His timestamp updated at 4:37 PM ET, shortly followed by Great_Ball's timestamp updating at 4:39PM ET - the time Great_Ball saved in yesterday's SMFFFC round. That timestamp has not updated since.

3. In the two weeks since the start of SMFFFC, Great_Ball has not posted anywhere except SMFFFC topics. Great_Paul has posted in many other topics, even topics that were running simultaneously, but has not used Great_Ball to post in any non-SMFFFC topics a single time in the past two months.

4. I dug deep into the archives and failed to find a single Great_Ball post not accompanied by a StifledSilence post. Every single Great_Ball post I was able to find was in some sort of contest, usually a Save My, and always paired with a Stifled post. The odds of this happening on a consistent basis over such a long time period are extremely low if there's no direct connection beyond what is allowed.
The best illustration of this I've found is their votes during the CXIX finals.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/377636630426812420/480460030663983104/unknown.png
Exactly six votes apiece, all within minutes of each other, even despite a gap of nearly 40 hours between the first two sets - textbook signs of one person on two accounts.

I hate that I have to do this now, this early into the contest and my tenure as host. But even more than that, I hate that this blatant and continued disregard for the rules has been allowed to go on unchecked for so long. This is not to say that others were derelict in their duties - I shared my suspicions with Leon last year, but there wasn't nearly enough proof to do anything back then, which is no longer the case..
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guffguy89
08/19/18 12:39:51 AM
#96:


well then
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Janus5k
08/19/18 12:39:56 AM
#97:


StifdedSilence
Great_Fall
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profDEADPOOL
08/19/18 12:41:52 AM
#98:


Tag
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kateee
08/19/18 12:42:08 AM
#99:


who did they save
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TotallyNotMI
08/19/18 12:42:31 AM
#100:


*applauds*
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guffguy89
08/19/18 12:42:40 AM
#101:


yeah, I was wondering which characters were going to be affected by this
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