Board 8 > POLL: Did Trump's win cause the rise of nationalism in Europe?

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Vlado
07/24/18 8:14:01 AM
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Did Trump's win cause the rise of nationalism in Europe? - Results (7 votes)
Certainly, without Trump's win, it never would've happened
0% (0 votes)
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It helped, but the trends were already clear
57.14% (4 votes)
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Nationalism in Europe was going to rise with or without Trump
42.86% (3 votes)
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Since Trump's win, right-wing parties had the following massive overall gains in Europe, in chronological order:
- Holland: PVV gain seats, FVD enter parliament
- Bulgaria: United Patriots form the governing coalition and are currently in power as the minority partner of it
- France: Front National reach the second round of the presidential elections, gain seats
- Germany: Alternative fr Deutschland triple their results since the last elections, eventually become the top opposition party
- Austria: Freedom Party gets a boost, and so does People's Party after getting a young, charismatic, more nationalist leader. The two form a coalition government, currently cracking down on illegal immigration and enforcing strict border policy
- Czech Republic: SPD, a new party, get over 10% and 22 seats. Top 4 parties are EU-skeptic
- Italy: Lega quadruple their result, form governing coalition with 5 Stelle, another anti-EU, anti-establishment party, currently Lega keep sweeping local elections and gaining even more popularity after current internal minister Salvini's clever PR stunts such as closing the Italian ports for ships carrying African migrants, and filming himself swimming in a pool in an estate confiscated from an ex-mafia boss. Fratelli d'Italia double their result and triple their seats.
- Hungary: Orbn's Fidesz and their coalition partners gain an extra 4+% with much bigger turnout, and maintain their 2/3 majority, then proceed to implement laws which eventually forced Soros to move his foundation's offices out of Budapest and shut down all legal activity in Hungary
- Slovenia: SDS win the most votes, SNS enter parliament

In the same period, left-wing parties - social democrats, socialists, liberals, whatever they called themselves, faced various levels of embarrassment across the continent.

And the saga continues. Next is Sweden, in September. The Sweden Democrats are projected to rise nicely there, and take second place, if not first.
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Vlado
07/24/18 3:58:56 PM
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Up.
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Vlado
07/25/18 8:13:43 AM
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LinkMarioSamus
07/25/18 8:38:47 AM
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Are you saying you WANT Russia to interfere in other countries' elections the way some suspect? And this is not about whether they're really doing it or not.
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Vlado
07/25/18 3:50:13 PM
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foolm0r0n
07/25/18 4:45:17 PM
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Man all those refugees really helped Europe become great again
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htaeD
07/25/18 5:04:04 PM
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I take offense to saying nationalism won in holland
Nationalists won fuck all
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Zylothewolf
07/25/18 5:51:00 PM
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Vlado posted...


And the saga continues. Next is Sweden, in September. The Sweden Democrats are projected to rise nicely there, and take second place, if not first.


It's actually more a question if the social democrats can stop their bleeding before the election. Right now these two parties are tied and consider that it's so dry here that we don't have enough resources to kill all the big forestfires I doubt that they can recover.

Not that it matters because the rest of the parties won't coporate with the Swedish Democrats so we will just get a weaker and even more useless goverment.
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Vlado
07/26/18 3:42:40 AM
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htaeD posted...
I take offense to saying nationalism won in holland
Nationalists won fuck all

Even Lasa admits they grew in strength. I didn't say they won the elections. One step at a time.

Zylothewolf posted...
Vlado posted...


And the saga continues. Next is Sweden, in September. The Sweden Democrats are projected to rise nicely there, and take second place, if not first.


It's actually more a question if the social democrats can stop their bleeding before the election. Right now these two parties are tied and consider that it's so dry here that we don't have enough resources to kill all the big forestfires I doubt that they can recover.

Not that it matters because the rest of the parties won't coporate with the Swedish Democrats so we will just get a weaker and even more useless goverment.

That's okay. If the other won't cooperate, even more people will leave them for SD. Look at Lega in Italy.
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