Poll of the Day > This 9 y/o Nevada Girl was Charged $1500 just to use a HOSPITAL SINK!!!

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Full Throttle
07/23/18 12:47:58 AM
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Do you think healthcare should be socialized? - Results (5 votes)
Yes, healthcare should be a basic human right
60% (3 votes)
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No, it should be private now and forever
40% (2 votes)
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It should be universal with both private and public
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9 y/o Brianna Lee from Las Vegas, Nevada was helping her mother pump gas at a gas station when gasoline accidentally splashed into her eye and her mother immediately took her to Centennial Hills Hospital..

Her mother tried rinsing her eyes out at the gas station but decided to take her to the ER instead after it started burning.

Brianna said "It was actually kind of scary because my mom didn't want my vision to go away and i was scared that i wouldn't have good vision anymore"

When they got to the ER, doctors told them to just keep washing it out. Her medical records show that doctors indicated the eyewash was too unsanitary to use and told to use a regular sink instead

Photos show Brianna's mother rinsing her eyes out under a regular tap but because they weren't satisfied with the doctor's care, they left the hospital

They said the doctor didn't help at all and they got more help from a GAS STATION ATTENDANT who gave them an eyewash free of charge...

But weeks later, a big fat bill came in the mail and they were charged 800 SMACKERS from the ER Doctor!!..and they were charged another 600 from the HOSPITAL itself!!

Centennial wouldn't comment because of privacy laws and said they are reviewing the circumstance but said that the eyewash station referenced is located in a utility room for staff use in case of chemical/caustic substance splashes in their eye and isn't for patients

The parents are now outraged and plan to fight these charges as they are warning people of the outrageous bills that hospitals are charging people for anything and everything.

Do you think healthcare should be socialized?

Brianna -

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/22/20/4E7EDEAB00000578-5980311-image-m-64_1532289330214.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/22/20/4E7EDEA300000578-5980311-image-m-66_1532289417195.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/22/20/4E7EDEB300000578-5980311-image-m-69_1532289473268.jpg

The expensive hospital -

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/07/22/20/4E7EDEBB00000578-5980311-image-a-68_1532289470255.jpg
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wwinterj25
07/23/18 12:59:02 AM
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This makes me thankful for the NHS over here. Although with that said regardless of what it is we would still be charged by the hospital if we are in work(in most cases). That's fair enough as you are using their services. Perhaps this will stop idiots wasting the time of hospitals.
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RoboXgp89
07/23/18 2:01:23 AM
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it should but the middle class would end up paying for it like they are now
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JF7X
07/23/18 5:09:01 AM
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ok so wait first , why is the 9 year old even helping pump the gas for her mother ? And second how did it even splash gas if all you do is put the nozzle into the gas tank hole and push/ hold the button to pump gas in, If that was the case then shouldn't the gas station find out why or how gasoline is being splashed in customer's faces?
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jkdarlow
07/23/18 6:14:28 AM
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JF7X posted...
ok so wait first , why is the 9 year old even helping pump the gas for her mother ? And second how did it even splash gas if all you do is put the nozzle into the gas tank hole and push/ hold the button to pump gas in, If that was the case then shouldn't the gas station find out why or how gasoline is being splashed in customer's faces?

First thing i thought to be honest.
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Kyuubi4269
07/23/18 6:20:02 AM
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jkdarlow posted...
JF7X posted...
ok so wait first , why is the 9 year old even helping pump the gas for her mother ? And second how did it even splash gas if all you do is put the nozzle into the gas tank hole and push/ hold the button to pump gas in, If that was the case then shouldn't the gas station find out why or how gasoline is being splashed in customer's faces?

First thing i thought to be honest.

It's simple, the child pulled it out while holding the trigger and it splashed off the edge of the hole, a tiny drop hitting her eye.
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jkdarlow
07/23/18 6:26:27 AM
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But why would her mother let help, its highly irresponsible, hell most pretty much all fuel stations around here have labels telling you to keep your children in the car.
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zebatov
07/23/18 6:29:35 AM
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It is where I am. We need universal law and schooling to have the icing on the cake.

We have signs at the hospitals here in Canada that warn you if you aren't covered that you'll be charged all kinds of fees, including hospital, and whatever the doctor's hourly rates are.

This is why I don't understand people who say our system is bad. If it isn't dire, then you can wait and it's covered. If it is dire, you get bumped up/rushed in and it's still covered, or, you can choose to pay out of pocket for things like an MRI and get one almost immediately.

Also, working in oil and gas, I know that if you get anything in your eye that isn't viscous, you just rinse it out until it's better. Stuff like this should be common knowledge, sort of like how I'm wondering why they were surprised to get a massive bill in the US. Same thing would have happened here without coverage from social healthcare.
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TsC_PoLiTiKz
07/23/18 7:00:07 AM
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I have $10,000 in medical bills built up.

I would say it's safe to assume that I'll be too in debt to ever make it out in my lifetime by 40. Purely from medical bills, I own my home and car so I have no debt beyond the medical crap.

It's fucking ridiculous how expensive hospital visits are.

OT: I'm confused as to why a 9 year-old was pumping gas without at least supervision and guidance.
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LinkPizza
07/23/18 7:05:55 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
It's simple, the child pulled it out while holding the trigger and it splashed off the edge of the hole, a tiny drop hitting her eye.

Or she didn't put it all the way in before pulling the trigger...

TsC_PoLiTiKz posted...
OT: I'm confused as to why a 9 year-old was pumping gas without at least supervision and guidance.

It's possible she had supervision, but maybe pulled the trigger immediately before her mother could warn her that it wasn't all the way in.
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Kyuubi4269
07/23/18 7:14:07 AM
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jkdarlow posted...
But why would her mother let help, its highly irresponsible, hell most pretty much all fuel stations around here have labels telling you to keep your children in the car.

I'd say it's more irresponsible to never teach your kids anything then kick them out as soon as it's legal.
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Its like he wants two things at the same time.
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jkdarlow
07/23/18 7:50:46 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
jkdarlow posted...
But why would her mother let help, its highly irresponsible, hell most pretty much all fuel stations around here have labels telling you to keep your children in the car.

I'd say it's more irresponsible to never teach your kids anything then kick them out as soon as it's legal.

Im not from America, but im pretty sure a 9 year old cannot drive, so teaching her to use a fuel pump at 9 is irresponsible.
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Kyuubi4269
07/23/18 7:54:53 AM
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jkdarlow posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
jkdarlow posted...
But why would her mother let help, its highly irresponsible, hell most pretty much all fuel stations around here have labels telling you to keep your children in the car.

I'd say it's more irresponsible to never teach your kids anything then kick them out as soon as it's legal.

Im not from America, but im pretty sure a 9 year old cannot drive, so teaching her to use a fuel pump at 9 is irresponsible.

A 9 year old doesn't have to pay rent either but it's irresponsible to not teach them about money.
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Its like he wants two things at the same time.
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Fierce_Deity_08
07/23/18 9:31:12 AM
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Sounds like her bill was too low. She got a bargain and didnt know it. I am going to hate to see the bill for my uncle being in the hospital for about a month.
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SkynyrdRocker
07/23/18 9:33:45 AM
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I always thought the thing about kids not being allowed to help pump gas was stupid. Now I see why it's a thing.
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Kyuubi4269
07/23/18 9:38:30 AM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
I always thought the thing about kids not being allowed to help pump gas was stupid. Now I see why it's a thing.

It's not a thing in a country with free healthcare. Well ain't that a coinki-dink?
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Scloud posted...
Its like he wants two things at the same time.
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_AdjI_
07/23/18 10:18:48 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
jkdarlow posted...
But why would her mother let help, its highly irresponsible, hell most pretty much all fuel stations around here have labels telling you to keep your children in the car.

I'd say it's more irresponsible to never teach your kids anything then kick them out as soon as it's legal.


Well, sure, but that's not the only alternative here. There's a considerable amount of time between being 9 and being old enough to be legally kicked out, plus there's no reason to make the jump between "not teaching her child how to pump gas at age 9" and "kicking her child out at 16 without teaching her anything." What an absurd comment.
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Kyuubi4269
07/23/18 10:37:53 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
jkdarlow posted...
But why would her mother let help, its highly irresponsible, hell most pretty much all fuel stations around here have labels telling you to keep your children in the car.

I'd say it's more irresponsible to never teach your kids anything then kick them out as soon as it's legal.


Well, sure, but that's not the only alternative here. There's a considerable amount of time between being 9 and being old enough to be legally kicked out, plus there's no reason to make the jump between "not teaching her child how to pump gas at age 9" and "kicking her child out at 16 without teaching her anything." What an absurd comment.

The point is you don't teach people how to do stuff only when it's already become necessary. If the child doesn't want to stay in the car, it's a convenient way to keep them occupied.
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SirPikachu
07/23/18 10:38:37 AM
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Yea it's ridiculous at some places. I think that all emergencies should be next to free, and regular doctor visits and non-important surgeries should stay how they are.

I had a hernia last year come down into my ballsac and it hurt like a son of a bitch and I couldn't walk, and my emergency room visit just for them to scan it and push it back in, not even sew it up was over $8000. How am I gonna pay 8K when the most I've ever had at a time is like $700? And then they said the lowest I could pay monthy was $40 to pay it off, which would be almost 2 lives of paying one 2 hour visit to the ER. And I couldn't very well just not go and just deal with the most agonizing pain I have ever had. I told em I couldn't pay that cuz I didn't have a job, and they haven't bothered me since. And I'm not gonna pay it either cuz that hospital is run by crooks and doesn't deserve my money.
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_AdjI_
07/23/18 10:45:29 AM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
The point is you don't teach people how to do stuff only when it's already become necessary.


You also don't teach them how to do stuff when it's likely to be dangerous due to their age and there's no need to do it now. At 9, she's got at least 7 years before she'll be needing to gas up her own vehicle. Presuming a fillup every two weeks, that's another 182 opportunities to get her to do it.

It's also not like pumping gas is likely to be urgently necessary when that time comes. Once she starts driving, it's likely that she'll have a parent with her while she practices, and gassing up can easily be incorporated into that practice. She shouldn't go off on a long-distance road trip solo without learning how to gas up, certainly, but that's very obviously a bad idea and there's no reason to jump to that possibility.
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Kyuubi4269
07/23/18 11:02:33 AM
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_AdjI_ posted...
You also don't teach them how to do stuff when it's likely to be dangerous due to their age and there's no need to do it now.

No, it's likely to be dangerous if they're reckless and unsupervised. Note the "harm" caused was a little petrol on the eye and just needing to wash it out with water at no great haste. If it's convenient to teach your kids to do stuff, why not? It doesn't harm them to have information useless to them at that time.

This is probably my biggest issue with modern parenting, taking a hands-off approach to raising their children because they don't have to teach them anything.
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MICHALECOLE
07/23/18 11:25:23 AM
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Crazy world we live in where people are just okay with medical bills like this
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Zeus
07/24/18 11:33:01 PM
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The cost isn't the sink, the cost is going to the ER.

_PrincessZelda posted...
Welcome to the United States, where even saying "hello" to a medical "professional" costs $1000+.


Not true in the slightest. It only applies to actual professionals in ERs and mostly when you're uninsured.

Kyuubi4269 posted...
jkdarlow posted...
But why would her mother let help, its highly irresponsible, hell most pretty much all fuel stations around here have labels telling you to keep your children in the car.

I'd say it's more irresponsible to never teach your kids anything then kick them out as soon as it's legal.


That's why Kyuubi is going to teach his kid how to clean a gun when he's 3 years old and have him use a lawnmower when he's 2 >_>

Full Throttle posted...
Yes, healthcare should be a basic human right


By definition it cannot be a human right since rights are protections *from* government and other bodies.
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RoboXgp89
07/24/18 11:39:34 PM
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My grandpa is 100 years old those POS charge him 70k a year to lay in bed all day
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zebatov
07/27/18 12:37:43 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
but maybe pulled the trigger immediately before her mother could warn her that it wasn't all the way in.

It's embarrassing when this happens on the first date.
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dedbus
07/27/18 12:41:06 PM
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You're paying for all that expertise in administering sink operation though.
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faramir77
07/27/18 1:26:38 PM
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Same people here defending privatized health care and attacking the parent for having their 9 year old pump gas are the same people that would support seeing a 9 year old learn how to shoot a handgun.
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07/27/18 2:10:34 PM
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faramir77 posted...
Same people here defending privatized health care and attacking the parent for having their 9 year old pump gas are the same people that would support seeing a 9 year old learn how to shoot a handgun.

You can't drive at 9 but you can go to a gun range...
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PuddingBoy
07/27/18 7:08:32 PM
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Kyuubi moving those goalposts again lmao
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InfestedAdam
07/27/18 7:22:04 PM
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All I'll say is there's something wrong with the system if folks are more concern about dealing with the hospital/ambulance ride bill than getting treated.
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OhhhJa
07/27/18 7:31:29 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
jkdarlow posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
jkdarlow posted...
But why would her mother let help, its highly irresponsible, hell most pretty much all fuel stations around here have labels telling you to keep your children in the car.

I'd say it's more irresponsible to never teach your kids anything then kick them out as soon as it's legal.

Im not from America, but im pretty sure a 9 year old cannot drive, so teaching her to use a fuel pump at 9 is irresponsible.

A 9 year old doesn't have to pay rent either but it's irresponsible to not teach them about money.

Money is complicated though. Some people never get it right. Pumping gas on the other hand is easy as shit but also dangerous if you fuck up. So lets not have 9 year olds pumping gas. They can do learn when they're 15 since it doesn't take years to learn
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ArvTheGreat
07/27/18 7:46:08 PM
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If 9 year olds can smoke cigs they can pump gas
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ArvTheGreat
07/27/18 7:48:18 PM
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Everyone here doesnt pump gas any way and they are older than 9
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OhhhJa
07/27/18 7:59:22 PM
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ArvTheGreat posted...
If 9 year olds can smoke cigs they can pump gas

Why not both at the same time?!
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OhhhJa
07/27/18 7:59:34 PM
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Multitasking is important
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dioxxys
07/28/18 1:10:34 PM
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I understand medical attention costs money but there shouldn't be exuberant costs for menial tasks
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DrunkCaveman
07/28/18 1:15:10 PM
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Why couldn't they wash her eyes out at the gas station? They need to have an eyewash station in California, idk about Nevada
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Ogurisama
07/28/18 1:18:10 PM
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DrunkCaveman posted...
Why couldn't they wash her eyes out at the gas station? They need to have an eyewash station in California, idk about Nevada

Even so, they say go to the Hospital either way.

Anyways, kid shouldnt be pumping gas, and also 1500 is stupid for an eye rinse from a sink, or even with an eye rinse kit.
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dioxxys
07/28/18 11:39:39 PM
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You can buy an eyewash station and have it installed for less then 1000, dont see why this isnt a one-sided issue.
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Revelation34
07/31/18 11:18:35 PM
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zebatov posted...
Same thing would have happened here without coverage from social healthcare.


I didn't know using a regular sink cost $800.
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TomNook
07/31/18 11:28:52 PM
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Healthcare is a tricky subject. When I was younger, I thought everyone should have it. But now that I'd older, I see the reality of the countries that have it.
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Revelation34
07/31/18 11:30:43 PM
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TomNook posted...
But now that I'd older, I see the reality of the countries that have it.


The reality is hospitals want to overcharge just because they can.
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