Board 8 > Tiny Toons Mafia Topic 2: Its Tiny Toon Adventures, come and join the fun!

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And now our game has begun!

The Playerlist
1. 5tarscream
2. Alakazamtrainer
3. Ashetan
4. ChaosTonyV4
5. ColZach
6. Corrik
7. DoomTheGyarados (Chris)
8. FakeAccount3000
9. Forceful_Dragon
10. IfGodCouldDie
11. masterplum
12. Meow1000 (Blade)
13. Nanahara715a
14. pjbasis
15. red13n
16. TheSultanOfSlam

Votals
[2] Corrik - (Zam), pjbasis, red
[2] Tony - ("MZero"), Chris, Plum
[1] Zam - (FA3000), FD
[1] plum - Corrik
[1] FA3000 - Nana, (Corrik)
[1] Ashethan - Tony
[1] pjbasis - Sultan, (ColZach)
[0] plum - (Corrik)
[0] IGCD - (Tony)
[0] red - ("MZero")
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Oh

##Unvote
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Ty
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I didnt realize Mzero was playing which probably isnt a good sign
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masterplum posted...

I didnt realize Mzero was playing which probably isnt a good sign

Yeah it is probably a bad sign you didn't realize he replaced in.
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Im currently trying to work out which out of Sultan and Zam are worse.

I mean at least Sultan can put some of his terrible posting and wording down to inexperience. Sam has been called in the same action by many new people and just basically seems to dismiss it.

It might not necessarily be scummy but it is terrible for town if youre not scum. You arent even trying to convince people of your worth to town. You havent offered an opinion or a valid reason.

@Alakazamtrainer can you give me any reason to not vote you?
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I ##Unvote I think I'm going to change my vote here soon still re reading to make my vote
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##Unvote

Forgot my bold
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Corrik I don't feel clowned tbh. My poe was off due to your reckless claim history, dels being weird, and shad having a baby. I wish I saw through it better but my poe had mzero, leo, and death in it for a long time. It was a solid game.

Also I may have come out firing but then my gf got sick. Poor thing.

Also since when do you care about being a hypocrite? Or not know Blade is horrible day 1s (a fact even I have accepted)
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5tarscream posted...

Im currently trying to work out which out of Sultan and Zam are worse.

I mean at least Sultan can put some of his terrible posting and wording down to inexperience. Sam has been called in the same action by many new people and just basically seems to dismiss it.

It might not necessarily be scummy but it is terrible for town if youre not scum. You arent even trying to convince people of your worth to town. You havent offered an opinion or a valid reason.

@Alakazamtrainer can you give me any reason to not vote you?

Can you please summarize what you have contributed to the game for me? Thanks.
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I said Blade is worthless day 1 in my post, Chris. Are you actually reading posts or just reading a few lines to act like you are?
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I don't think I am pretending to NOT read a few lines and post thoughts on them. But in this specific case why would you even have the urge to call out Blade if you know his history. Like it's almost as if you want to be seen as being tough when really it makes more sense.
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After my rereading I have narrowed it down to a few people..

Ashe- ashe's responses to Tony and I think it was Corrik where very lacking they just seem to be avoiding what is going on and trying to fly under the radar rather then giving any actual response

Red- red was really quick to jump on the band wagon to vote out corrik and then really didn't anything to back it up or why he wanted to place the vote.

Tony- Tony and col zach are on opposite sides and it really showed in the banter and that I believe that zach is the one who is tow so that would leave Tony as the scumm

Corrik- kind of just a jerk and quick to want to make everyone claim but said he will never claim.
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Ah the old VI four pack huh? A fine move!

I don't really like Tony stretching on the sultan thing. I mean Zam said something about voting Corrik every game and it was a topic.of conversation for awhile, so it's no suprise Sultan made the deduction they've played together often. I feel like that was a really big reach. Don't really have a problem with the ColZach thing though.

Red is a little different than unusual but doesn't seem malicious. Town can try new things too, so I don't think him being unusual is a big deal right now

Ashe I don't really remember doing much in my quick read through

FD I give an A+ for effort. His walls were actually content filled and not fluff. Town

Mzero why do people give newer people credit which older people- okay whatever.

May I ask why the Zach thing doesn't bother you, specifically?

Fair on Red, not an original thought but what can you do.

Why did you feel the need to not look at Ashe when I requested?

What was your favorite point FD made?
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

After my rereading I have narrowed it down to a few people..

Ashe- ashe's responses to Tony and I think it was Corrik where very lacking they just seem to be avoiding what is going on and trying to fly under the radar rather then giving any actual response

Red- red was really quick to jump on the band wagon to vote out corrik and then really didn't anything to back it up or why he wanted to place the vote.

Tony- Tony and col zach are on opposite sides and it really showed in the banter and that I believe that zach is the one who is tow so that would leave Tony as the scumm

Corrik- kind of just a jerk and quick to want to make everyone claim but said he will never claim.

Why do you think a scum red would be quick to vote a scum Corrik?
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5tarscream posted...

Im currently trying to work out which out of Sultan and Zam are worse.

I mean at least Sultan can put some of his terrible posting and wording down to inexperience. Sam has been called in the same action by many new people and just basically seems to dismiss it.

It might not necessarily be scummy but it is terrible for town if youre not scum. You arent even trying to convince people of your worth to town. You havent offered an opinion or a valid reason.

@Alakazamtrainer can you give me any reason to not vote you?

Screw the rules I have money and vanilla ice cream.
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Alakazam if I like offered you private mafia lessons at some point after this game for a "reasonable fee" do you think you'd be down for that? Like, 8 hours of intense mafia training? I am just spitballing because you are one random ass dude.
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I'm not really saying corrik is scum he is just jerk lol but I find it odd someone would be that quick to jump on the band wagon and not explain it
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

I don't think I am pretending to NOT read a few lines and post thoughts on them. But in this specific case why would you even have the urge to call out Blade if you know his history. Like it's almost as if you want to be seen as being tough when really it makes more sense.

That makes about zero sense, but I do applaud your effort in your comment in trying to elicit a response.

Being worthless day 1 is bad no matter who it is, and I feel the supposed better players should not be held to less of a standard when half the arguments I see from people, including yourself, is what have you exactly, this person has done nothing, or etc.

I said I personally felt worse about you because, barring last game, you usually think you will die night 1 so put in your best, sometimes very misguided, effort day 1 to hopefully make a lasting mark. I do not feel you have done that *so far*. Usually you have a few in your town pile by now.

Red and Blade I said I didn't feel as bad about because this is par for their course. Though, Red usually strongly says someone is scum before going off on his pointless splinter vote.

I am tired of just seeing people attack newer players for supposedly doing nothing or not putting in effort when the supposedly good players of the board are like shining examples of the same behavior.

At what point do the supposed good players, especially the ones that complain about activity like Blade, realize they need to lead by example instead of being hypocrites?

That said, I doubt all of you 3 are town also. So, I am pretty wary of all 3 of you trying to fly low today.
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What was the list for if not to narrow down scum?
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It was that in a way I think one of red and corrik could be scumm I'm leaning more red though
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You know if you were paying close attention you'd see that I do have a few in my town pile...!

I actually agree though - I have not liked how so much suspicion has fallen on Alakazam and Sultan early on because it feels mostly (FD calm down) lazy.

I never try to fly low, I just am trying to be relaxed. We all know I'll go hard at end of day, which I am not listening to you on again BY THE WAY and probably lynch scum. Until then no need to go super hard.
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I honestly do not think plum has read half the posts in the game either btw.
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It's fascinating to see that in the time since I last played, Corrik seems to have become a Mafia powerhouse. Or at least that's the vibe I feel like he's projecting now.

Also when does the day end?
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Wouldn't surprise me, he does that too.

Corrik I wouldn't say is a power house PER SE but he has gotten better at less dick more action.
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So Tony tell me something we why should I vote ashe since you put a vote on ashe
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His posts feel fluffy, like he called out my reaction to ColZach again, and for my "it's a stretch but I feel like if Sultan is scum then I'll lean Zam and Corrik are town" he called it out by basically repeating, and it just felt like padded content.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

His posts feel fluffy, like he called out my reaction to ColZach again, and for my "it's a stretch but I feel like if Sultan is scum then I'll lean Zam and Corrik are town" he called it out by basically repeating, and it just felt like padded content.

That's what I thought as well I thought he really didn't give much to what he was saying.
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##Vote Ashe
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People keep saying Red's different, but I don't see it. He was kind of playful last game if I remember correctly.

Saying things like:

red13n
06/26/18 2:23:39 PM
72

we just lynch shad immediately upon return, of course.

red13n
06/26/18 4:28:50 PM
120

are you saying you are a tree stump?

Those seem pretty playful to me.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

His posts feel fluffy, like he called out my reaction to ColZach again, and for my "it's a stretch but I feel like if Sultan is scum then I'll lean Zam and Corrik are town" he called it out by basically repeating, and it just felt like padded content.

Nice job misrepresenting my post.

Here's the actual post:

Ashethan posted...

That's a HUGE stretch that ignores the possibility one of Zam/Corrik are on the scum team, and simply mentioned playing with the other a lot on the scum board. I mean how would Sultan being scum suddenly rule either of them out? Like in your scenario it'd require someone who KNOWS Corrik and Zam's histories, that both of them are town, and that someone posted about it on the scum board.

Your logic seems weak, and a way to try to appease Chris who gave Nana town points for making up a similar crazy theory. (Which I also mentioned earlier).
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I have offered opinions where I can. I dont have any hard read on anyone because I havent played a ton of games with most people here and I dont have a lot of meaningful interactions with most of the players to be able to say if they are acting differently to how they usually are.
Any thoughts now are simply rehashing if what others have said regarding Zam, Sultan, Red and Tony. Until something new happens here isnt really much new information for me to give.
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I dont like how Sultan simply asks for why Tony is voting Ashe and when given a paper thin argument just says yeah me too and hoes with it. It looks like hiding behind Tony but looking active. Which is exactly what happened. Ashe responses to Tony and not why Sultan suddenly felt the need to follow Tonys opinion and not ask Chris, Corrik or FD.
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I mean why would it be better if he asked one of those people? Wouldn't it just be hiding behind us then? Also he had already expressed, prior to asking Tony, a dislike for Ashe. Why does that not matter?
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Ashethan posted...

Nice job misrepresenting my post.

Here's the actual post:

Ashethan posted...
That's a HUGE stretch that ignores the possibility one of Zam/Corrik are on the scum team, and simply mentioned playing with the other a lot on the scum board. I mean how would Sultan being scum suddenly rule either of them out? Like in your scenario it'd require someone who KNOWS Corrik and Zam's histories, that both of them are town, and that someone posted about it on the scum board.

Ugly quote but

Your post was a response to me literally acknowledging it was a stretch, so...not misrepresented at all.
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Because it isnt just asking for the opinion of someone that has already voted for Ashe and then agreeing with whatever they say. There is a chance another experienced player could offer more insight and potentially make a case for Ashe being town which isnt what he wanted. He wanted an excuse for a vote but didnt want the attention that it would have brought.
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First half is a good answer, but do you not think Sultan realizes that everyone reads the topic? I mean as scum there exists some combos here, so let me go with them.

Sultan/Tony are scum buddies. Sultan weirdly asks Tony for support
Sultan is scum, Tony is town - why not ask me, the guy who is voting Tony, for support in eating Tony?

See what I mean? Sultan listed Tony as suspect and if he wanted to he had someone with clout there to eat the poor guy if they are unaligned. So do you contend this was a scum/scum interaction?
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Also Tony mentioned his argument with Ashe over the alignment of Zam and Corrik in relation to Sultan being scum, and how he thought Ashe was being wishy washy.
Sultan just went yeah me too.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Your post was a response to me literally acknowledging it was a stretch, so...not misrepresented at all.

But it's not just stretch. It's also poor logic. I mean you explained it a little better later, which is why my vote isn't on you at the moment. But the logic is pretty weak to put Corrik and Zam as town if Sultan is scum.
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5tarscream posted...

Because it isnt just asking for the opinion of someone that has already voted for Ashe and then agreeing with whatever they say. There is a chance another experienced player could offer more insight and potentially make a case for Ashe being town which isnt what he wanted. He wanted an excuse for a vote but didnt want the attention that it would have brought.

You are totally looking way to far into it but you wanna make a case for ashe as town go for it change my mind. I already said I narrowed it down and was going for one of them to begin with so before I picked ashe who I was going to vote anyways. I asked the other person who voted ashe why they did.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

5tarscream posted...

Because it isnt just asking for the opinion of someone that has already voted for Ashe and then agreeing with whatever they say. There is a chance another experienced player could offer more insight and potentially make a case for Ashe being town which isnt what he wanted. He wanted an excuse for a vote but didnt want the attention that it would have brought.

You are totally looking way to far into it but you wanna make a case for ashe as town go for it change my mind. I already said I narrowed it down and was going for one of them to begin with so before I picked ashe who I was going to vote anyways. I asked the other person who voted ashe why they did.

Why ask someone you were suspicious of?
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I said they'd lean Town because noob scum wouldn't be mentioning scummates like that Day 1. Makes perfect sense to me.
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I dont think Sultan has the experience to go after Tony on the back of you as the first scum vote on town.
I think he was simply trying to divert attention away from Zam AND he wanted to get some attention on Ashe and Tony was already leading that way.
I guess my read from that is Sultan and Zam scum. Ashe and Tony town.
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5tarscream posted...

I dont think Sultan has the experience to go after Tony on the back of you as the first scum vote on town.
I think he was simply trying to divert attention away from Zam AND he wanted to get some attention on Ashe and Tony was already leading that way.
I guess my read from that is Sultan and Zam scum. Ashe and Tony town.

Yeah... No I semi claimed already
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

5tarscream posted...

Because it isnt just asking for the opinion of someone that has already voted for Ashe and then agreeing with whatever they say. There is a chance another experienced player could offer more insight and potentially make a case for Ashe being town which isnt what he wanted. He wanted an excuse for a vote but didnt want the attention that it would have brought.

You are totally looking way to far into it but you wanna make a case for ashe as town go for it change my mind. I already said I narrowed it down and was going for one of them to begin with so before I picked ashe who I was going to vote anyways. I asked the other person who voted ashe why they did.

Why ask someone you were suspicious of?

If he gave me a bus answer I was going to either ask someone who voted Tony why they voted Tony or just vote Tony
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Bs*
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What is a bus answer?
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5tarscream posted...

I dont think Sultan has the experience to go after Tony on the back of you as the first scum vote on town.
I think he was simply trying to divert attention away from Zam AND he wanted to get some attention on Ashe and Tony was already leading that way.
I guess my read from that is Sultan and Zam scum. Ashe and Tony town.

Hm hm hm. I don't agree with the conclusion but I like the thought process here, feels genuine enough. Off you trot.
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Leafeon13N posted...[D1, T1, P005]
You know we could save time, pick a new player ane kill them in a few hours.

The implication that we should either cut day short or simply remove a new player without justification is pretty anti-town.

If this was meant to be a joke then it was in poor taste.

The fact that fd doesnt catch this as an immediate joke bothers the heck out of me. (i was very clearly making fun of the recent day 1s).

To expound: I don't think anything Sultan there did really took away from talking about Alakazam. He, unprompted, listed people he was stewing over and then followed up with someone to vote one of them. Now I agree with you that the reasoning isn't great but I think often times people mistake poor play for scum play. Sultan is actually showing some drive in figuring out the game and isn't floundering for suspects, which I tend to take away from newbie scum more than anything.

Alakazam what are your thoughts on the game at the moment? You seem as fluffy as cotton candy.
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Alakazamtrainer posted...

Yeah... No I semi claimed already

Semi claimed? Is that even a thing? Also if you were scum Im pretty sure youd still claim town. So saying you soft claimed town doesnt mean youre in the clear or above suspicion
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