Poll of the Day > Guardians of the Galaxy director James Gunn fired for old Tweets : (

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LeetCheet
07/21/18 7:53:54 AM
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He did post some nasty shit and he probably should've thought twice before posting them but that was over 10 years ago and he even apologized for making them.
He apparently had a very dark sense of humour back then but has since moved on from that.
Surely Disney already knew all about that before they hired him for the first GotG movie, right?
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Sarcasthma
07/21/18 7:58:21 AM
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C'mon now, at least post a source.
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AllstarSniper32
07/21/18 8:05:59 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
C'mon now, at least post a source.

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LeetCheet
07/21/18 8:14:30 AM
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Sorry. I have now edited my first post with a source.
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Sarcasthma
07/21/18 8:14:57 AM
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Thanks! :)
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LeetCheet
07/21/18 8:28:01 AM
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SmokeMassTree
07/21/18 9:03:11 AM
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I heard about this.

I would like to see the tweets in question but I could be fucked to actually look for them.
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OneTimeBen
07/21/18 9:24:03 AM
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He was a grown man at the time. And joking about pedopheila is not funny.
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FrozenBananas
07/21/18 9:24:09 AM
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He basically IS the guardians of the Galaxy. He's the reasons the movies are what they are. I'm confused as to why Disney made such a drastic decision
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OneTimeBen
07/21/18 9:26:40 AM
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FrozenBananas posted...
He basically IS the guardians of the Galaxy. He's the reasons the movies are what they are. I'm confused as to why Disney made such a drastic decision


Jokes about pedophilia?
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dainkinkaide
07/21/18 9:49:43 AM
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OneTimeBen posted...
FrozenBananas posted...
He basically IS the guardians of the Galaxy. He's the reasons the movies are what they are. I'm confused as to why Disney made such a drastic decision


Jokes about pedophilia?

Because Mike Cernovich, a man who has said that date rape is impossible, brought it up again and riled up the troll brigade just to get a man fired for something he said 10 years ago, apologized for six years ago, and has not repeated since then.
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OneTimeBen
07/21/18 10:03:38 AM
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A comic on stage is a bit different than a movie director on Twitter.
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OmegaM
07/21/18 10:06:00 AM
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SmokeMassTree posted...
I would like to see the tweets in question but I could be fucked to actually look for them.

Here's what I found:

http://media.comicbook.com/2018/07/james-gunn-offensive-tweets-1-1124094.jpeg
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OneTimeBen
07/21/18 10:08:53 AM
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OmegaM posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
I would like to see the tweets in question but I could be fucked to actually look for them.

Here's what I found:

http://media.comicbook.com/2018/07/james-gunn-offensive-tweets-1-1124094.jpeg


That should do it for most people. And was a political issue?
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OneTimeBen
07/21/18 10:19:11 AM
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Yeah if you dont understand why this guy was fired. Look it up. So many seem to have a problem with it. And worse blame other people than him.
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Blighboy
07/21/18 11:22:50 AM
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I understand why, but given that it was so long ago you'd think an alternative would be possible. Have him completely condemn his past statements and apologize for them and stress that he's changed or whatever.

However given the frequency and nature of the comments I guess for some it might be a bit hard to accept that.

IDK I'm not exactly a saint when it comes to my posting habits.
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Zikten
07/21/18 11:23:03 AM
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let's get Mike Cernovich fired
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Doctor Foxx
07/21/18 11:31:01 AM
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OmegaM posted...
SmokeMassTree posted...
I would like to see the tweets in question but I could be fucked to actually look for them.

Here's what I found:

http://media.comicbook.com/2018/07/james-gunn-offensive-tweets-1-1124094.jpeg

What I wonder is how he got the GotG gonna to begin with saying that shit. Sheesh
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streamofthesky
07/21/18 11:44:02 AM
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Zikten posted...
let's get Mike Cernovich fired

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OhhhJa
07/21/18 11:46:20 AM
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The negative response people have toward his firing really says something about our current political climate.

Guy makes racist joke tweet five years ago. Gets fired. The public's response: "Good. Guy's a piece of shit."

Guy makes multiple weird jokes about having sex with children and babies. The public's response: "They were funny! This guy made GotG! Who cares?! They're just jokes!"

Especially with what's going on now with multiple Hollywood stars being outed for sexual harassment and rape, this firing is really not surprising
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Blighboy
07/21/18 11:47:28 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
They were funny!

Eh, maybe a handful of them. Most of them were just Tosh shit.
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streamofthesky
07/21/18 11:51:08 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
The negative response people have toward his firing really says something about our current political climate.

Guy makes racist joke tweet five years ago. Gets fired. The public's response: "Good. Guy's a piece of shit."

Guy makes multiple weird jokes about having sex with children and babies. The public's response: "They were funny! This guy made GotG! Who cares?! They're just jokes!"

Especially with what's going on now with multiple Hollywood stars being outed for sexual harassment and rape, this firing is really not surprising

I don't like any of these people getting fired, it's all become a big witch hunt.
The only ones where I agree with it is when it's police, politicians, teachers... or someone else in a position of power or authority over those they're hateful towards and based on the social media messages, it becomes questionable if they can treat the people they have authority over fairly.

These movie directors, fast food workers, and so on getting fired for dumb shit they said on twitter in some cases many years ago is just disturbing and not a good trend.

But when the jerks leading these charges, like Mike Cernovich, have it turned on them, that's delicious karma
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streamofthesky
07/21/18 11:51:43 AM
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Blighboy posted...
OhhhJa posted...
They were funny!

Eh, maybe a handful of them. Most of them were just Tosh shit.

No...Tosh is funny. Those tweets were just dumb.
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OneTimeBen
07/21/18 11:52:24 AM
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Check the link from post #13 you defenders.
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OneTimeBen
07/21/18 11:57:33 AM
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Give it up. It was deserved. And to blame alt right or any political slant is ludicrous.
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Zikten
07/21/18 12:20:24 PM
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I've only actually read 2 of his jokes. one was stupid. one was also stupid I guess but i admit I laughed. it was funny in a really fucked up dark way.

his jokes were dumb and funny or not he should not have said them. but I don't think he deserved to be fired since he said them a decade ago before he ever even was working for Marvel. and he has since stopped and even said he felt bad about it (and this was before yesterday. he didn't say it cause of the firing)

he was a redeemed man. this is like someone changing their life around....and then people attack him for his past
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ParanoidObsessive
07/21/18 12:25:02 PM
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OneTimeBen posted...
He was a grown man at the time. And joking about pedopheila is not funny.

Dozens of posters on this board have made hundreds of similar jokes over the last 15 years, and no one ever openly reacted negatively to any of them. I have a hard time thinking of any of them even being modded. And this is honestly one of the tamer corners of the Internet. You'd probably hear worse than anything he said if you spent more than 15 minutes on 4chan.

If anything, I'd argue the problem is more that Twitter has become a repugnant cesspool with multiple lynch mobs constantly looking for a victim to crucify. Outrage culture reaching its inevitable conclusion, where the threshold for witch hunts is going to keep getting lower and lower, and it's not going to matter whether you said something yesterday or 20 years ago, because the Internet never forgets. And thoughtcrime is doubleplusungood.


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Mead
07/21/18 12:49:45 PM
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What he said was gross but he was a shock comic at the time

I do not think he should have been fired
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GrimCyclone
07/21/18 12:58:23 PM
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Basically:

If its a conservative, fire them.
Its its a liberal, let it slide.

If he got away with it, then Papa John, who is against racism, shouldnt have to step down for saying the n-word out-of-context in a way to exemplify his condemnation of a racist.

If we give certain people special permission to have more free speech than others, we cannot have the same standard of law for all.

Personally, Im a free-speech radical. I think all speech should be protected. Minus the obvious fire! bomb! Etc
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TheOrangeMisfit
07/21/18 1:06:32 PM
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It's always lovely when these insane anti trumpers get punished for things like this.
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GrimCyclone
07/21/18 1:19:09 PM
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TheOrangeMisfit posted...
It's always lovely when these insane anti trumpers get punished for things like this.

You must be a horrible person aka Nazi aka Literally Hitler just like me. We really need to stop having our own opinions and just agree with liberals. After all, theyre right. Were wrong.

I mean, theyre even educated. My degrees in Economics and Accounting mean nothing to their Humanities and Sociology degrees. I really wasted my life with such lucrative fields. I shouldve majored in something like they did some I couldve been a good person and not an evil bigoted libertarian who believes in the outdated constitution written by a bunch of racist white men anyway!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tEiguYmgxA" data-time="

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Blighboy
07/21/18 1:19:50 PM
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GrimCyclone posted...
TheOrangeMisfit posted...
It's always lovely when these insane anti trumpers get punished for things like this.

You must be a horrible person aka Nazi aka Literally Hitler just like me. We really need to stop having our own opinions and just agree with liberals. After all, theyre right. Were wrong.

I mean, theyre even educated. My degrees in Economics and Accounting mean nothing to their Humanities and Sociology degrees. I really wasted my life with such lucrative fields. I shouldve majored in something like they did some I couldve been a good person and not an evil bigoted libertarian who believes in the outdated constitution written by a bunch of racist white men anyway!!

You sound super bitter about getting dunked on repeatedly lmao
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GrimCyclone
07/21/18 1:21:54 PM
#33:


Oh look, its the famous, You sound butt mad! response the local wildlife chant!

How exciting!

Do go on!

I think Ill go back to the real world.
Ive had my fill of gooberville for the day.
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Blighboy
07/21/18 1:22:53 PM
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GrimCyclone posted...
Oh look, its the famous, You sound butt mad! response the local wildlife chant!

How exciting!

i have twelve degrees in buttmaddery and a 6 and three quarter inch wee wee

get dunked on
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streamofthesky
07/21/18 1:25:32 PM
#35:


GrimCyclone posted...
Basically:

If its a conservative, fire them.
Its its a liberal, let it slide.

If he got away with it, then Papa John, who is against racism, shouldnt have to step down for saying the n-word out-of-context in a way to exemplify his condemnation of a racist.

If we give certain people special permission to have more free speech than others, we cannot have the same standard of law for all.

Personally, Im a free-speech radical. I think all speech should be protected. Minus the obvious fire! bomb! Etc

I don't like it in general when people are brought down by these witch hunts. Hell, here's me on another recent example. In this case, a conservative who lost his scholarship:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/76826334#10

In the case of Papa John, he said the n-word during a board meeting, not just some casual remark on twitter. And had a long history of causing PR headaches for PJ's pizza. I still remember several years ago when he whined that he'd have to jack up the price of a large pizza 14 whole cents if he were to provide healthcare to his employees. That went over well!
He was also the "face" of the company, featured in many of their commercials. In comparison...I had no idea who the fuck James Gunn was until he got fired and it became news, and I watch tons of Marvel movies.

Maybe John didn't deserve to be fired either, but given his repeated history of pissing off PJ's customers with his statements, his firing is one of the most understandable one of these cases and a poor counter-example.
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GrimCyclone
07/21/18 1:31:32 PM
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Blighboy posted...
GrimCyclone posted...
Oh look, its the famous, You sound butt mad! response the local wildlife chant!

How exciting!

i have twelve degrees in buttmaddery and a 6 and three quarter inch wee wee

get dunked on

Sorry, kittums, I dont speak your eccentric little tribes dialect. I must away back to grown-up land! But never would I part with ill will. You have a good day now, cupcake.
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dragon504
07/21/18 3:04:53 PM
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Getting fired over 10 year old jokes = justice. What a stupid time to live in.
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DeathMagnetic80
07/21/18 3:29:26 PM
#38:


streamofthesky posted...
GrimCyclone posted...
Basically:

If its a conservative, fire them.
Its its a liberal, let it slide.

If he got away with it, then Papa John, who is against racism, shouldnt have to step down for saying the n-word out-of-context in a way to exemplify his condemnation of a racist.

If we give certain people special permission to have more free speech than others, we cannot have the same standard of law for all.

Personally, Im a free-speech radical. I think all speech should be protected. Minus the obvious fire! bomb! Etc

I don't like it in general when people are brought down by these witch hunts. Hell, here's me on another recent example. In this case, a conservative who lost his scholarship:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/76826334#10

In the case of Papa John, he said the n-word during a board meeting, not just some casual remark on twitter. And had a long history of causing PR headaches for PJ's pizza. I still remember several years ago when he whined that he'd have to jack up the price of a large pizza 14 whole cents if he were to provide healthcare to his employees. That went over well!
He was also the "face" of the company, featured in many of their commercials. In comparison...I had no idea who the fuck James Gunn was until he got fired and it became news, and I watch tons of Marvel movies.

Maybe John didn't deserve to be fired either, but given his repeated history of pissing off PJ's customers with his statements, his firing is one of the most understandable one of these cases and a poor counter-example.


He didn't lose his scholarship for being a conservative, he lost it for using a homophobic slur, on camera.
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Andromicus
07/21/18 3:36:51 PM
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Suddenly it's not locker room talk when they've said mean things about the president.
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dedbus
07/21/18 4:07:20 PM
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Just deleted my tweet about cool whip because it might be deemed insensitive to the great cool whip factory explosion that killed 50 children, and Henry foldger, ceo and supervisor of the factory workers that were damaged beyond repair that will happen in ten years.
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OhhhJa
07/21/18 4:16:41 PM
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Andromicus posted...
Suddenly it's not locker room talk when they've said mean things about the president.

Wow did you used to share a locker room with Jared Fogle or something?
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T-Bird
07/21/18 4:17:08 PM
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dainkinkaide posted...
OneTimeBen posted...
FrozenBananas posted...
He basically IS the guardians of the Galaxy. He's the reasons the movies are what they are. I'm confused as to why Disney made such a drastic decision


Jokes about pedophilia?

Because Mike Cernovich, a man who has said that date rape is impossible, brought it up again and riled up the troll brigade just to get a man fired for something he said 10 years ago, apologized for six years ago, and has not repeated since then.
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PMarth2002
07/21/18 4:35:06 PM
#43:


I'm all for free speech, but a company that markets itself to kids as heavily as disney does firing a guy for making pedophilia jokes seems completely justified to me.

Kinda sucks if this kills the GotG franchise though.
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Mead
07/21/18 4:47:52 PM
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PMarth2002 posted...
I'm all for free speech, but a company that markets itself to kids as heavily as disney does firing a guy for making pedophilia jokes seems completely justified to me.

Kinda sucks if this kills the GotG franchise though.


They already knew about these tweets. The guy used to work for Troma and was all about comedy that was meant to offend.

He didnt get fired because of the tweets, he got fired because a conservative group drummed up enough outrage to force Disney to do something. He has been very outspoken against Trump.
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OhhhJa
07/21/18 4:55:53 PM
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Mead posted...
They already knew about these tweets. The guy used to work for Troma and was all about comedy that was meant to offend.

He didnt get fired because of the tweets, he got fired because a conservative group drummed up enough outrage to force Disney to do something. He has been very outspoken against Trump.

So basically he got fired when people found out about the tweets... yeah that's kind of the way it goes. This happens all the time. Years later tweets can come back to haunt you. And like he said... they market to kids so having a guy making multiple pedo jokes is something that isnt a good look for them. Also, liberals get conservatives fired all the time so dont pretend this only happens to anti trump guys
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OhhhJa
07/21/18 5:04:37 PM
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised that people here are more outraged about the firing of a guy making a bunch of pedo jokes just because he was anti trump than a guy who said the n word once in a non hostile way. And for the record, I side with papa John's firing him. That's what companies do when their image is effected. Their pizza sucks anyway though
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streamofthesky
07/21/18 5:12:34 PM
#47:


DeathMagnetic80 posted...
streamofthesky posted...
GrimCyclone posted...
Basically:

If its a conservative, fire them.
Its its a liberal, let it slide.

If he got away with it, then Papa John, who is against racism, shouldnt have to step down for saying the n-word out-of-context in a way to exemplify his condemnation of a racist.

If we give certain people special permission to have more free speech than others, we cannot have the same standard of law for all.

Personally, Im a free-speech radical. I think all speech should be protected. Minus the obvious fire! bomb! Etc

I don't like it in general when people are brought down by these witch hunts. Hell, here's me on another recent example. In this case, a conservative who lost his scholarship:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/76826334#10

In the case of Papa John, he said the n-word during a board meeting, not just some casual remark on twitter. And had a long history of causing PR headaches for PJ's pizza. I still remember several years ago when he whined that he'd have to jack up the price of a large pizza 14 whole cents if he were to provide healthcare to his employees. That went over well!
He was also the "face" of the company, featured in many of their commercials. In comparison...I had no idea who the fuck James Gunn was until he got fired and it became news, and I watch tons of Marvel movies.

Maybe John didn't deserve to be fired either, but given his repeated history of pissing off PJ's customers with his statements, his firing is one of the most understandable one of these cases and a poor counter-example.


He didn't lose his scholarship for being a conservative, he lost it for using a homophobic slur, on camera.

I never said he lost it because he was a conservative.
I was pointing out an example where it was a conservative coming under fire.
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Dikitain
07/21/18 5:51:12 PM
#48:


OneTimeBen posted...
Check the link from post #13 you defenders.

I mean if that is your definition of "worthy of being fired" then half the internet should be drawn and quartered.
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dioxxys
07/21/18 5:51:33 PM
#49:


streamofthesky posted...

I don't like any of these people getting fired, it's all become a big witch hunt.
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Cacciato
07/21/18 5:55:29 PM
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Mead posted...
What he said was gross but he was a shock comic at the time

I do not think he should have been fired

This. Only two or three were really pushing it in my opinion. And even then they werent that bad.
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