Poll of the Day > Best country of these! Day 17

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What of these do you like the most?

Top 2 each day will move to the second round.

Countries moving to round 2
Australia
Austria
Belgium
Bahamas
Brazil
Bulgaria
Canada
Costa Rica
Denmark
Czech Republic
Finland
Fiji
Germany
Greece
Ireland
Iceland
Italy
Japan
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Madagascar
Mexico
Monaco
Morocco
New Zealand
North Korea
Poland
Portugal
Qatar
Russia
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
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Ogurisama posted...

Countries moving to round 2
North Korea
Qatar
Russia
Saudi Arabia

lol
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PuddingBoy posted...

Ogurisama posted...

Countries moving to round 2
North Korea
Qatar
Russia
Saudi Arabia

lol

The people have spoken! with troll votes
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South Korea by a reasonable margin, although Spain has a lot going for it (well, overlooking the beginnings of a civil war and massive unemployment)

PuddingBoy posted...

Ogurisama posted...

Countries moving to round 2
North Korea
Qatar
Russia
Saudi Arabia

lol

Literally nothing weird about Russia, considering it's a developed nation and world power. And Saudi Arabia is less weird than some of the other countries going to the second round.

Ogurisama posted...

PuddingBoy posted...

lol

The people have spoken! with troll votes

Given that he chose to highlight a legit entry like Russia while ignoring other entries, he's clearly trolling.
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Ignoring the fact that I'm sure your top 1 fantasy of all time is a Trump-Putin sex tape, I'm surprised a left-leaning centrist like yourself would ignore that Russia is a human rights hellhole that ranks 126th out of the 159 countries ranked by the CATO Institute's Human Freedom Index. They're even below the aforementioned Qatar (ranked 112).
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Bunch of communists voting in this topic.
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PuddingBoy posted...

Ignoring the fact that I'm sure your top 1 fantasy of all time is a Trump-Putin sex tape, I'm surprised a left-leaning centrist like yourself would ignore that Russia is a human rights hellhole that ranks 126th out of the 159 countries ranked by the CATO Institute's Human Freedom Index. They're even below the aforementioned Qatar (ranked 112).

Ignoring that the fact that you're trolling yet again, the CATO Institute is a right-leaning (some would say far-right-leaning, given its ties to the Koch Brothers) think tank with substantial biases. It's how a country using pretty literal slave labor (Qatar) could rank above Russia for human rights. But sure, feel free to write off a world leading, fully developed nation because of McCarthyism 2.0. Instead, you could have voted for some of the round's other top choices -- Rwanda and Republic of the Congo. I look forward to you discussing and justifying them moving onto the next round instead of Russia.
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Bumps
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Ogurisama posted...

Bumps

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Zeus posted...

PuddingBoy posted...

Ignoring the fact that I'm sure your top 1 fantasy of all time is a Trump-Putin sex tape, I'm surprised a left-leaning centrist like yourself would ignore that Russia is a human rights hellhole that ranks 126th out of the 159 countries ranked by the CATO Institute's Human Freedom Index. They're even below the aforementioned Qatar (ranked 112).

Ignoring that the fact that you're trolling yet again, the CATO Institute is a right-leaning (some would say far-right-leaning, given its ties to the Koch Brothers) think tank with substantial biases. It's how a country using pretty literal slave labor (Qatar) could rank above Russia for human rights. But sure, feel free to write off a world leading, fully developed nation because of McCarthyism 2.0. Instead, you could have voted for some of the round's other top choices -- Rwanda and Republic of the Congo. I look forward to you discussing and justifying them moving onto the next round instead of Russia.

None of what you said changes the fact that Russia a human rights hellhole and I'd include the other hellholes in my list if they moved on. But they didn't so it's irrelevant goalpost moving from you.

Yelling that someone is trolling because they don't like a country that you like is pretty immature but that's just par for the course for you. Your only recourse ever is just a "no, you!" without any actual substance to it. I'm sorry that I dislike a country that treats humans like garbage. Get over it old man.
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Spain is beautiful. South Korea is cool too

PuddingBoy posted...

None of what you said changes the fact that Russia a human rights hellhole and I'd include the other hellholes in my list if they moved on. But they didn't so it's irrelevant goalpost moving from you.

You say that, yet you literally have MEXICO going onto the next round and you've said NOTHING so far. You haven't even said a hint of anything. Not only is Mexico a human rights hellhole where government-sponsored disappearances are a norm, but it's also highly corrupt and extremely dangerous. Yet instead of highlighting Mexico, you talk about Russia. Why is that? Because the media tells you to love Mexico and hate Russia? Or is it just because you look to Trump for your opinions and, whatever he thinks, you just do the opposite. You've already signaled your obsession with Trump once in this topic, so that seems a possibility.

PuddingBoy posted...

Yelling that someone is trolling because they don't like a country that you like is pretty immature but that's just par for the course for you. Your only recourse ever is just a "no, you!" without any actual substance to it. I'm sorry that I dislike a country that treats humans like garbage. Get over it old man.

...which, again, he says while ignoring other countries that are far worse in this regard. And then he still pretends that he's not trolling, even as he tosses in several strawmen for good measure.
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Mexico has many problems but when comparing human rights, they're far better off than Qatar and Russia. It's a no brainer. How about you dispute Russia instead of moving the goalposts to another country? It doesn't have to be a troll job. How about you try and educate instead of bringing in a superiority complex? I know you're not interested in doing so, but you'd look like slightly less of a fool if you did.

Do you need to talk about other countries or can you respond to Russia's non-free elections, corrupt courts, suspicious killings in the UK and more, homosexual concentration camps in Chechnya, not having a free press, the general treatment of LGBT people in the country... I could go on. So please, tell me why I should not include Russia on my list when they are a hellhole and try not to bring up other countries. Good luck!
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Ogurisama posted...

Ogurisama posted...

Bumps

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Ogurisama posted...

Ogurisama posted...

Ogurisama posted...

Bumps

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final bump
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PuddingBoy posted...

Mexico has many problems but when comparing human rights, they're far better off than Qatar and Russia. It's a no brainer. How about you dispute Russia instead of moving the goalposts to another country? It doesn't have to be a troll job. How about you try and educate instead of bringing in a superiority complex? I know you're not interested in doing so, but you'd look like slightly less of a fool if you did.

How about you actually justify singling out Russia while ignoring countries that are far worse? You claim that you're not trolling, but Mexico is more dangerous than most warzones for journalists, politicians, etc, and yet you're clinging to the Koch Foundation's Freedom Index.

Here's a statistic you're overlooking: The murder rate in Mexico 20.5 per 100,000 inhabitants. I guess the dead are very free, right? By the way, you also didn't raise a flag over Brazil which has a 32.4 murder rate. These are the kinds of statistics that would concern normal people -- raising an immediate red flag in their minds -- but apparently not you.

PuddingBoy posted...

Do you need to talk about other countries or can you respond to Russia's non-free elections, corrupt courts, suspicious killings in the UK and more, homosexual concentration camps in Chechnya, not having a free press, the general treatment of LGBT people in the country... I could go on. So please, tell me why I should not include Russia on my list when they are a hellhole and try not to bring up other countries. Good luck!

Wait, are you seriously trying to bring up issues with the press while ignoring Mexico, one of the deadliest nations for journalists? (And the deadliest non-warzone?) Those are some Olympic-level mental gymnastics! And then you cite many issues to which Mexico has greater problems. So yeah, maybe you can explain why you'd single out a developed, prosperous relatively safe nation while giving a free pass to a nation where large sections are effectively run by drug gangs -- or seceded from the government -- and the government has repeatedly been complicit in mass murder, including the army helping to kill a large group of students. But hey, freedom!
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Spain for its scenery. No interest in South Korea what-so-ever.
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