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Forceful_Dragon
07/07/18 10:41:27 PM
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The board 8 wikia has a page for Hearthstone.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Hearthstone

You can find the bnet IDs of numerous b8ers who play.

If you are a b8er who plays then please add yourself to the list.

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A new Hearthstone announcement is expected to drop onn July 12th, though there are some reports saying it will involve fan events rather than the next full expansion.
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JonThePenguin
07/07/18 11:07:54 PM
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Korayashi
07/07/18 11:25:50 PM
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Tag.

I put together an Odd Paladin since my Zoolock was stalling in climbing the ladder. Proceeded to run into everything that Odd Paladin is at a disadvantage too, including random Zoolocks. I think the game likes mocking me.

Oh, and I added myself to the wiki. I didn't know there was a wiki.
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Forceful_Dragon
07/08/18 12:08:20 AM
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Ouch kora, that's rotten luck. Incidentally, what list are you using for your odd pala deck?
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Korayashi
07/08/18 12:15:22 AM
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I wouldn't doubt it's full of flaws, this is what I've got currently.

### Oddler
# Class: Paladin
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
#
# 2x (1) Acherus Veteran
# 2x (1) Argent Squire
# 2x (1) Blessing of Might
# 1x (1) Dire Mole
# 2x (1) Fire Fly
# 2x (1) Lost in the Jungle
# 2x (1) Righteous Protector
# 2x (3) Divine Favor
# 2x (3) Stonehill Defender
# 2x (3) Unidentified Maul
# 1x (3) Vicious Fledgling
# 2x (3) Void Ripper
# 2x (5) Fungalmancer
# 2x (5) Level Up!
# 1x (7) Corridor Creeper
# 2x (7) Vinecleaver
# 1x (9) Baku the Mooneater
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AAECAZ8FBJ/CAvvTAovlAp74Ag1GpwX1BZvCAuvCAoPHArjHAuPLApXOAtHhAtblArXmAv3qAgA=
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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Forceful_Dragon
07/08/18 12:19:37 AM
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Korayashi posted...
Void Ripper


That's the "all minions swap attack and health" battery right?

If so im confused what purpose it serves in odd paladin
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ProfitProphet
07/08/18 12:38:19 AM
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I don't use it in mine but I assume it's for stuff like sleepy dragon and witchwood grizzly
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Korayashi
07/08/18 12:41:47 AM
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Yeah, I've essentially been using it for big taunts to clear them. I'm open to moving it out (Saving up dust to get a second Creeper in there too).
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Forceful_Dragon
07/08/18 1:03:12 AM
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Unless you are often mitigating multiple taunts at once i would just run 2 copies of ironbeak owl to serve the same function sure they will be able to run their high health silenced minion into a guy next turn but that's probably the same guy you would have run into the 12/4 taunt anyways so at least he did his damage to face first.
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MariaTaylor
07/08/18 3:32:29 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/8wt9jl/a_comparison_of_aggressive_and_defensive_tools/

Generally speaking, in the new standard meta, defensive options (76) seem to outnumber aggressive ones (50) by a fairly wide margin. Moreover, the aggression options have been getting progressively more expensive to play, focusing on the 3-5 mana range, on average. Long gone are the days of Tunnel Troggs and Small-Time Buccaneers. The best aggressive options in this period were good - like Corridor Creeper, Call to Arms, and Bonemare - but many have suffered nerfs (well deserved in most cases, don't get me wrong) and largely fallen out of favor because of it.

By contrast, the defensive options have been among the most powerful the game has ever seen: Defile, Spreading Plague, Duskbreaker, and almost all the Deathknights. The only one that received a nerf was Plague, from 5 to 6 mana, and it's still a stable in the best 3 decks in the game at legend, according to VS. While these tools had been used to keep pace with the previous crop of offensive cards, the offensive pools have weakened while the defensive ones largely haven't. The best aggressive option right now is Baku, which is less a card (as the card itself is basically unplayable) and more a deck build around a theme.

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azuarc
07/08/18 9:00:10 AM
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LiquidOshawott
07/08/18 9:22:38 AM
#17:


Eh, Aggro still exists and is really strong, its just more interactive and focused on board control (Odd Pally, Rogue, Zoo)

They need to print better two drops though to allow for more variety beyond odd decks and Keleseth.
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DonnyG
07/08/18 11:28:51 AM
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LiquidOshawott posted...
Eh, Aggro still exists and is really strong, its just more interactive and focused on board control (Odd Pally, Rogue, Zoo)

They need to print better two drops though to allow for more variety beyond odd decks and Keleseth.

I expect to see a good neutral 2 drop in the next set for exactly this reason.
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KokoroAkechi
07/08/18 1:45:38 PM
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Had a game versus heal zoo as taunt Druid. Im second. Im playing the old list with UI. He starts with imp I pass. He taps and I play growth. He plays more stuff and I oaken. He drops dreadlord and I have to naturalize it and play a ironbark or whatever its called from hand.

Now my hand is like dragonhatcher, oakheart, hadronox, sleepy dragon, primordial drake, I top deck the other drake. So my turns were coin into drake, drake, sleepy dragon, ui (which I drew in one of those turns). In any case the UI got me the second naturalize so I won after that.
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KokoroAkechi
07/08/18 1:46:09 PM
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That was the only game I played today and Im like I dont really want to play now that was dumb
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BlackDra90n
07/08/18 1:46:38 PM
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MariaTaylor
07/08/18 2:00:50 PM
#22:


DonnyG posted...
I expect to see a good neutral 2 drop in the next set for exactly this reason.


they have barely printed any in the last year. not sure why you'd be expecting them to start now, unless you think Brode was the one person stopping them from doing it.
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DonnyG
07/08/18 2:25:39 PM
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MariaTaylor posted...
DonnyG posted...
I expect to see a good neutral 2 drop in the next set for exactly this reason.


they have barely printed any in the last year. not sure why you'd be expecting them to start now, unless you think Brode was the one person stopping them from doing it.

Considering they likely have this set already done for a bit and are working on the next one, it would be a good time for it. Prince 2 was a dead card until the nerfs to cards like Raza and Patches, so they would have started seeing it play favourably after already designing Witchwood.
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davidponte
07/08/18 10:26:54 PM
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Ulti has the same reaction to people quoting DonnyG as the rest of the board does to people quoting Ulti.
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LiquidOshawott
07/08/18 10:32:32 PM
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...Prince 2 saw a ton of play with Patches around.

Thing is the best 2 drops in the game are Wild Growth and Doomsayer.
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Forceful_Dragon
07/08/18 10:34:19 PM
#27:


Annd.....
Ummm...

...shielded mini bot? What year is it...
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DonnyG
07/08/18 10:43:50 PM
#28:


davidponte posted...
Ulti has the same reaction to people quoting DonnyG as the rest of the board does to people quoting Ulti.

Like I'm having a legit convo about the state of the game and this guy cries about it. If someone could quote this asking him to grow up, that would be swell :)
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DonnyG
07/08/18 10:48:19 PM
#29:


LiquidOshawott posted...
...Prince 2 saw a ton of play with Patches around.

Thing is the best 2 drops in the game are Wild Growth and Doomsayer.

Yeah you're right about the first part, my bad. But my point about sets being created in advance stands... I could see a reasonable one created this coming set.
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LiquidOshawott
07/08/18 10:49:35 PM
#30:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Annd.....
Ummm...

...shielded mini bot? What year is it...


I mean if were talking all time then youd throw Mad Scientist, Totem Golem, Haunted Creeper, And Nerubian Egg into the mix
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Forceful_Dragon
07/08/18 11:16:38 PM
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Yeah i was being facetious and trying to underscore just how long its been since we've had a 2drop that does much to impact the meta.
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azuarc
07/08/18 11:31:29 PM
#34:


Impact 1- and 2-drops are dangerous, though. Like, Knife Juggler is still a big deal even after being downgraded to a 2/2. And he isn't even used in a combo, like, say, Sorcerer's Apprentice.
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LiquidOshawott
07/08/18 11:33:41 PM
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Technically Call to Arms and 1 mana Tokens are combos (or Lost in the Jungle although Aggro Pally thats not Baku/Genn is rare)
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Korayashi
07/08/18 11:34:03 PM
#36:


I fiddled with my paladin a bit (Raid Leader and second Creeper in, One Void and Fledgling out) but it hasn't really got going, still needs to be tweaked more I guess.

Anyone ever have a game where the opponents turn seems to last infinitely? It's been a good 5 minutes and the timer hasn't triggered on them, I feel like they've glitched things somehow so that they're waiting on me to leave to win.
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Forceful_Dragon
07/08/18 11:44:33 PM
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Mobile or pc?

Also consider running 1 stormwind champion to top out your curve. Hes a bad card to play when you are losing but he can swing a contested board in a close game and he can remove doubt in situations where you are ahead.
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LiquidOshawott
07/08/18 11:48:28 PM
#38:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Korayashi posted...
Void Ripper


That's the "all minions swap attack and health" battery right?

If so im confused what purpose it serves in odd paladin


Oh this card has been popping up a ton in Aggro decks. Shuts down Doomsayer and gives you a fighting chance against Spreading Plague which Otherwise does a ton to odd pally

(Also kills totems in the Shaman matchup too and flips big taunts to be reasonable, gives Creepers burst etc)
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ColZach
07/09/18 12:02:36 AM
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Camden
07/09/18 12:03:39 AM
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I'm nearly 100% certain every single person playing arena, regardless of region, drafting style, skill level or anything else that would effect what cards they end up with, always ends up with a copy of MCT in their deck. I don't know how they do this, I don't think I've been offered one since before the Taverns of Time, but it seems to be holding true. At this point the only way an opponent will ever get it to activate against me is if they play something that generates a minion on my side of the board. Not even sour, I've been successfully playing around them a lot lately, just absolutely gobsmacked at the amount of decks that drafted the guy.

Also, everyone seems to have a Dragonslayer when I have a dragon in my hand, but then plays it the turn before I play my dragon. Honestly, when my opponent plays the Dragonslayer I feel compelled to play the dragon even if I have a better play. Probably cost me a game somewhere along the line but I can't resist.
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KokoroAkechi
07/09/18 12:55:02 AM
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Mct is among the most common neutrals in arena. People also take dragonslayer because bone drake is extremely common
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Korayashi
07/09/18 1:39:24 AM
#42:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
Mobile or pc?

Also consider running 1 stormwind champion to top out your curve. Hes a bad card to play when you are losing but he can swing a contested board in a close game and he can remove doubt in situations where you are ahead.

PC. The game disconnected me afterwards and had a queue when I went to relaunch it so maybe it just went offline or something.
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Korayashi
07/09/18 1:39:59 AM
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And I might slip in the champion, considering it. Considering crafting Leeroy Jenkins too.
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ProfitProphet
07/09/18 1:55:09 AM
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Oh yeah, Leeroy is a must have if you ask me. I couldn't believe it when I got my golden one in a pack after I bought a few of them just to pretty much get duplicates that I could turn into dust so that I could craft one
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Tom Bombadil
07/09/18 8:31:33 AM
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Protip of the day: play your monsters BEFORE popping your fill your board up guy

wasted 7 mana but still might win this one
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davidponte
07/09/18 1:12:50 PM
#47:


Wow I went from loving this expansion and not wanting new cards to be introduced to hating it and not wanting to play the game at all, and all it took was the introduction of a bullshit Zoo deck.

I'm now calculating how much gold I'll be losing by not doing my quests because I can't go two games without seeing that deck and would rather take the loss.
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dowolf
07/09/18 1:24:02 PM
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davidponte posted...
Wow I went from loving this expansion and not wanting new cards to be introduced to hating it and not wanting to play the game at all, and all it took was the introduction of a bullshit Zoo deck.

I'm now calculating how much gold I'll be losing by not doing my quests because I can't go two games without seeing that deck and would rather take the loss.

don't forget you can do quests in Arena or against friends!
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Tom Bombadil
07/09/18 1:25:51 PM
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and in Tavern Brawl!
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