Current Events > Why isn't White Supremacy taken more seriously as a threat?

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Did you see a lot of predatory behavior on poor and disenfranchised youth when you were younger in the recruiting methods the groups used? What was the common type of person who would join one of these groups?

Absolutely! We sought marginalized youth and promised them "paradise." Today they are using nefarious tactics like going to depression and mental health forums and in multiplayer gaming to recruit those same people.

You mentioned multiplayer games. Do white supremisists have people who just sit and play Overwatch, League, that type of thing and just spam their slurs or what is that tactic like?

They drop benign hints and then ramp up when hooked.

Fortnight, Minecraft, COD, all of them. Yes, mostly foreign recruiters from Russia and eastern Europe and Poland.

Do you see levels of white supremacy in police today?

Yes, we encouraged people to become cops and go to military. Blend in.

Didn't Trump's Administration take these sorts of groups off of their watch list?
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Because this country seems to have a problem with admitting its faults, down to the individual level.
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Our president being one or at the very least a sympathizer and enabler of the movement makes it difficult to address

Because believe it or not theres not that many full blown white supremacist in Ameeica. Lmao at anyone thinking they have any sway
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Oh brother they're attacking games and gamers again.
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Funbazooka posted...

Oh brother they're attacking games and gamers again.

It's not attacking the games, it's attacking the subterfuge, infiltration and recruiting tactics.
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CEs_EFG posted...

Because believe it or not theres not that many full blown white supremacist in Ameeica. Lmao at anyone thinking they have any sway

How many does there need to be for there to be a problem?

Funbazooka posted...

Oh brother they're attacking games and gamers again.

What on earth are you talking about?
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Darmik posted...

You mentioned multiplayer games. Do white supremisists have people who just sit and play Overwatch, League, that type of thing and just spam their slurs or what is that tactic like?

Also lmfao people shit on each other online since the beginning of online
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CEs_EFG posted...

Darmik posted...

You mentioned multiplayer games. Do white supremisists have people who just sit and play Overwatch, League, that type of thing and just spam their slurs or what is that tactic like?

Also lmfao people shit on each other online since the beginning of online

You say this like its not a problem
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CEs_EFG posted...

Because believe it or not theres not that many full blown white supremacist in Ameeica. Lmao at anyone thinking they have any sway

No sway except for writing news releases for the DHS apparently?
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CEs is a /pol/ type so don't bother seriously engaging him.
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Kineth posted...

Because this country seems to have a problem with admitting its faults, down to the individual level.

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It's not a threat, you guys just have a persecution complex.
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Richard Spencer, the face of the alt right, doesnt even have 100k followers.

I really dont think that white supremacy is the wide spread boogeyman that TYT and CNN makes it out to be.
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Mango Sauce posted...

No sway except for writing news releases for the DHS apparently?

No mango not every Republican is a white supremacist

NinjaWarrior455 posted...

CEs is a /pol/ type so don't bother seriously engaging him.

Also lol
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CEs_EFG posted...

Mango Sauce posted...

No sway except for writing news releases for the DHS apparently?

No mango not every Republican is a white supremacist

NinjaWarrior455 posted...

CEs is a /pol/ type so don't bother seriously engaging him.

Also lol

You are though. You've said you go on pol a lot and even bought clothing with pol memes.

CEs_EFG posted...

Darmik posted...

You mentioned multiplayer games. Do white supremisists have people who just sit and play Overwatch, League, that type of thing and just spam their slurs or what is that tactic like?

Also lmfao people shit on each other online since the beginning of online

When I started using AIM in the 90s, some admitted white supremacists would sit in the Afro-American chat room and individually message users to troll them. I had it happen a few times. Oddly enough though, some of them were actually polite in their disgusting racism by refraining from using slurs and actually engaging in relatively equitable debate even if they weren't gonna change their mind.
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Why don't SJWs go after rap artists?
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ah yes, Overwatch, a breeding ground for terrorists

do liberals hear themselves speak?

Nomadic View posted...

Richard Spencer, the face of the alt right, doesnt even have 100k followers.

I really dont think that white supremacy is the wide spread boogeyman that TYT and CNN makes it out to be.

This. It's a minority fringe movement (not unlike SJWs themself, actually) that gets noticed because they're very vocal, and can easily be sensationalized. Nothing more.
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Nomadic View posted...

Richard Spencer, the face of the alt right, doesnt even have 100k followers.

I really dont think that white supremacy is the wide spread boogeyman that TYT and CNN makes it out to be.

Recruitment for those groups skyrocketed during Obama's presidency and this topic is about the undercover network that they utilize. They'd be very ineffective if they were out in the open.

Also, it's easy to feel like they're not an issue if you, yourself, are white.
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wow, we better ban multiplayer games now
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BWLurker posted...

Our president being one or at the very least a sympathizer and enabler of the movement makes it difficult to address

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Because only brown and darker are criminals.
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Kineth posted...

Also, it's easy to feel like they're not an issue if you, yourself, are white.

Does that explain why black people feel BLM isn't a problem, then? Or is this yet another leftist double-standard?
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DarkTransient posted...

Kineth posted...

Also, it's easy to feel like they're not an issue if you, yourself, are white.

Does that explain why black people feel BLM isn't a problem, then? Or is this yet another leftist double-standard?

I am not black, but how do you think Black Lives Matter is a problem?
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I wonder if people thought the same thing about them not being a threat right before the Oklahoma Bombing. The terrorist attack organized by white supremacists that only lead to one guy being arrested.

Or how there has been a whole bunch of far-right extremist attacks in the last few years in the US.

Nobody says to not bother monitoring ISIS groups and people because they're a small fringe group.

Milkman5 posted...

ah yes, Overwatch, a breeding ground for terrorists

do liberals hear themselves speak?

Err I'm guessing you didn't bother to look at who said that?
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Blue_Inigo posted...

CEs_EFG posted...

Darmik posted...

You mentioned multiplayer games. Do white supremisists have people who just sit and play Overwatch, League, that type of thing and just spam their slurs or what is that tactic like?

Also lmfao people shit on each other online since the beginning of online

You say this like its not a problem

People shitting on each other in online games isn't a problem. Sometimee, it's part of the fun.
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BWLurker posted...

You are though. You've said you go on pol a lot and even bought clothing with pol memes.

When did I say that? I feel like you're shit flinging per usual. Do you do anything other than bitch about Trump on here lol
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DarkTransient posted...

Kineth posted...

Also, it's easy to feel like they're not an issue if you, yourself, are white.

Does that explain why black people feel BLM isn't a problem, then? Or is this yet another leftist double-standard?

No, it explains why people who think a whole race of people thinks a certain way would consider it a problem.
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Because the majority of the US is white and doesn't see it as a threat.
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CEs_EFG posted...

BWLurker posted...

You are though. You've said you go on pol a lot and even bought clothing with pol memes.

When did I say that? I feel like you're shit flinging per usual. Do you do anything other than bitch about Trump on here lol

You DEFINITELY posted pictures of a pol sweatshirt once. I remember cringeworthy shit like that.

OEIO999 posted...

DarkTransient posted...

Kineth posted...

Also, it's easy to feel like they're not an issue if you, yourself, are white.

Does that explain why black people feel BLM isn't a problem, then? Or is this yet another leftist double-standard?

I am not black, but how do you think Black Lives Matter is a problem?

Most of their protests degrade into destructive (and often violent) riots.
They actively encourage black people to resist arrest, either directly or by teaching them to fear police - and resisting arrest is the trigger behind almost every police shooting. This leads to more such events, making their platform a self-reinforcing cycle (at the cost of the very lives they claim "matter").
They always pick their paraded victims carefully, to ensure there were very valid reasons behind both the shooting itself and the arrest / interaction during which it happened; presumably to incite controversy that keeps drawing attention to themself. When a genuinely unjustified shooting does happen, they're almost always silent.

Shall I go on?
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Theres a lot of sad fat disenfranchised white dudes on the internet who think they know how the world works via the view outside their bedroom window. I wouldnt say that its representative of attitude towards white supremacy as a whole
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BWLurker posted...

CEs_EFG posted...

BWLurker posted...

You are though. You've said you go on pol a lot and even bought clothing with pol memes.

When did I say that? I feel like you're shit flinging per usual. Do you do anything other than bitch about Trump on here lol

You DEFINITELY posted pictures of a pol sweatshirt once. I remember cringeworthy shit like that.

You're whole existence is cringe worthy so I assume that's a lot of remembering.

That never happened btw lmao
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It's because people have thrown the term around so much that it has become cheap as a consequence. A lot of things have been called a consequence or sign of white supremacy without having to do anything with white supremacy, usually by whoever peddles this type of SJWism religion:



When people try to analyze every aspect of society and find some way that it is evidence of or a symptom of white supremacy or (systemic) racism, you end up devaluing the term and it causes exhaustion in the political sphere to the point where people just stop caring about the subject matter.

It's the same with how the terms Nazi and homophobe have been really devalued - where they were biting terms, they're now blanket statements used to apply to anyone randomly. So we cheapen language, and when real examples of Nazism or homophobia come along people are less attuned to hear.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

It's because people have thrown the term around so much that it has become cheap as a consequence. A lot of things have been called a consequence or sign of white supremacy without having to do anything with white supremacy, usually by whoever peddles this type of SJWism religion:



When people try to analyze every aspect of society and find some way that it is evidence of or a symptom of white supremacy or (systemic) racism, you end up devaluing the term and it causes exhaustion in the political sphere to the point where people just stop caring about the subject matter.

It's the same with how the terms Nazi and homophobe have been really devalued - where they were biting terms, they're now blanket statements used to apply to anyone randomly. So we cheapen language, and when real examples of Nazism or homophobia come along people are less attuned to hear.

Even if this were true how on Earth could this possibly be a justification for it? Imagine if you said this about not taking ISIS seriously because people lump Muslims in with them.
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Darmik posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

It's because people have thrown the term around so much that it has become cheap as a consequence. A lot of things have been called a consequence or sign of white supremacy without having to do anything with white supremacy, usually by whoever peddles this type of SJWism religion:



When people try to analyze every aspect of society and find some way that it is evidence of or a symptom of white supremacy or (systemic) racism, you end up devaluing the term and it causes exhaustion in the political sphere to the point where people just stop caring about the subject matter.

It's the same with how the terms Nazi and homophobe have been really devalued - where they were biting terms, they're now blanket statements used to apply to anyone randomly. So we cheapen language, and when real examples of Nazism or homophobia come along people are less attuned to hear.

Even if this were true how on Earth could this possibly be a justification for it? Imagine if you said this about not taking ISIS seriously because people lump Muslims in with them.

You're confusing explanation (not saying he's entirely right) with justification.
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SexyPonyMagic69 posted...

It's not a threat, you guys just have a persecution complex.

high post to username correlation
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Esrac posted...

You're confusing explanation (not saying he's entirely right) with justification.

But the explanation isn't consistent with other groups.

Unless there's an argument here that white people are measured on different standards.
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What?
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Maybe because the only threats mentioned in your OP are stuff like video game nicknames?
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I'll post the actual into from the guy.

My name is Christian Picciolini. I am a former member of America's first neo-Nazi skinhead gang (Chicago Area Skinheads). I was recruited in 1987 when I was 14 years old and stayed in the movement for eight years, until I was 22 in 1996. I held a leadership position in the Hammerskin Nation, America's most violent skinhead group. I stockpiled weapons hoping to overthrow the US government, and I was asked to meet with Muammar Gaddafi to form an alliance. In 1996, I decided to leave the vicious movement I helped create because I could no longer reconcile my hateful ideology and thoughts with the empathy I began to feel for, and the compassion I began to receive from, those who I deserved it from the least -- those who I previously hated and hurt. After over two decades of self-reflection and atonement, in 2009 I co-founded a nonprofit called Life After Hate, and in 2018 the Free Radicals Project, to help educate people on issues of far-right extremism and radicalization and to help people disengage from hate groups and to love themselves and accept others, regardless of skin color, religious belief, or sexual preference.

I published my memoir, WHITE AMERICAN YOUTH: My Descent into America's Most Violent Hate Movementand How I Got Out (Hachette, 2018) recently. My story is a cautionary tale that details my indoctrination when I was barely a teen, a lonely outsider who, more than anything, just wanted to belong. When my mentor went to prison for a vicious hate crime, I stepped forward, and at 18, I was overseeing the most brutal extremist skinhead cells across the country. From fierce street brawls to drunken white power rallies, recruitment by foreign terrorist dictators to riotous white power rock music, I immersed myself in racist skinhead culture, hateful propaganda, and violence.

Thirty years after I joined this movement, we have seen a metastasis of this movement: from shaved heads and boots to "fashy" haircuts, polo shirts, and suits. But is what we're seeing now any different than the hate groups of the past? Has white supremacy become normalized in our society, or was it always "normal?" Most importantly, how do we combat this growing youth social movement that is killing more people on American soil than foreign terrorism has?

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Darmik posted...

Thirty years after I joined this movement, we have seen a metastasis of this movement: from shaved heads and boots to "fashy" haircuts, polo shirts, and suits.

Nothing says anti-racism like shaming or stigmatizing people for their physical appearances.
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Darmik posted...

Esrac posted...

You're confusing explanation (not saying he's entirely right) with justification.

But the explanation isn't consistent with other groups.

Unless there's an argument here that white people are measured on different standards.

Do you think the majority demographic in a population is ever measured on the same standards as minority populations?

If that were the case, we wouldn't have all this talk about white privilege or white supremacy in the first place.
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SenTedCruz posted...

Darmik posted...

Thirty years after I joined this movement, we have seen a metastasis of this movement: from shaved heads and boots to "fashy" haircuts, polo shirts, and suits.

Nothing says anti-racism like shaming or stigmatizing people for their physical appearances.

You know it's a reference to the Charlottesville march uniform right?
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Esrac posted...

Darmik posted...

Esrac posted...

You're confusing explanation (not saying he's entirely right) with justification.

But the explanation isn't consistent with other groups.

Unless there's an argument here that white people are measured on different standards.

Do you think the majority demographic in a population is ever measured on the same standards as minority populations?

If that were the case, we wouldn't have all this talk about white privilege or white supremacy in the first place.

Yeah I agree. EDIT: Sorry had a brainfart and stated the opposite lol

And it's sad that these groups get to take advantage of it.

I don't think his explanation really works anyway considering the Oklahoma Bombings and how that was handled.
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SenTedCruz posted...

Maybe because the only threats mentioned in your OP are stuff like video game nicknames?

kek
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

It's because people have thrown the term around so much that it has become cheap as a consequence. A lot of things have been called a consequence or sign of white supremacy without having to do anything with white supremacy, usually by whoever peddles this type of SJWism religion:



When people try to analyze every aspect of society and find some way that it is evidence of or a symptom of white supremacy or (systemic) racism, you end up devaluing the term and it causes exhaustion in the political sphere to the point where people just stop caring about the subject matter.

It's the same with how the terms Nazi and homophobe have been really devalued - where they were biting terms, they're now blanket statements used to apply to anyone randomly. So we cheapen language, and when real examples of Nazism or homophobia come along people are less attuned to hear.

Just don't bother... racists will never understand, that's why they are racists.