Board 8 > Mercs Offseason Topic: Now with Less Purge

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DeathChicken
10/18/18 11:00:33 AM
#353:


That would be...interesting. Wouldn't that mean they momentarily get Venom's absurd power, then they spaz out and die?
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ScareChan
10/18/18 2:04:19 PM
#354:


Something like that. Could run it as giga browser trigger where its 30 seconds upon meeting teams
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DeathChicken
10/18/18 2:11:02 PM
#355:


I like the idea, except even 30 seconds of Venom being in Low tier (followed by his automatic death) is probably going to mean the other team is dead
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KanzarisKelshen
10/18/18 2:14:31 PM
#356:


Aloy is as she appears in Horizon: Zero Dawn, equipped with every weapon, a full stock of potions and the Shield-Weaver armor. She comes to battle riding a Charger, but may not summon more during the match.

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How's that? Anything I'm missing here?
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Johnbobb
10/18/18 2:46:49 PM
#357:


sounds abut right
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DeathChicken
10/18/18 2:58:27 PM
#358:


Incompatible Host (Peacetime) - Sometimes even a great bromance needs space. During Peacetime, Venom may declare this ability to KO himself for the week's fight. In exchange, an allied merc of 3 or less of his choosing will battle wearing the Venom symbiote with all powers shown in Venom. However, as lesser hosts are not as compatible with alien goo as Eddie, the chosen merc (as well as Venom) will automatically be KOed 10 seconds after meeting the other team.

Tried to make that reasonable, since even 10 seconds of Venom in Low is going to be messy
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ScareChan
10/18/18 3:03:32 PM
#359:


10 seconds sounds about fair
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KanzarisKelshen
10/18/18 3:34:15 PM
#360:


I'd make it 15 to account for distance-closing

otherwise it seems fine
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UltraMana
10/19/18 3:00:45 PM
#361:


Depends on what kind of game it is, how much time I think I want to invest it in, and if there are achievements I think I can get. If it's an rpg or more story based, usually the toughest. If it's an action game, usually hard.

If it's a rhythm, strategy, or turnbased? Normal unless I'm familiar.
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KanzarisKelshen
10/19/18 3:06:39 PM
#362:


BTW, putting the match up tonight I think - probably in the Lost Land? That or another really big sprawling terrain so both characters can strut their stuff
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ff6man
10/20/18 4:00:49 PM
#363:


TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Alto (Stella Glow)


Done.
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KanzarisKelshen
10/20/18 7:14:56 PM
#364:


shit I forgot to post the match last night

sry guys, I was feverish and half dead

will go up in an hour
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ScareChan
10/20/18 8:00:14 PM
#365:


you'll never make it as an admin if you let a little death keep you down

Get better soon!
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KanzarisKelshen
10/20/18 9:10:38 PM
#366:


Yeah instead my internet just died, rip

No match today cuz I can't post shit from mobile
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UltraMana
10/21/18 9:05:14 PM
#367:


Inviso posted...
Robin Force

Robin I - Dick Grayson
Robin II - Jason Todd
Robin III - Tim Drake
Robin IV - Stephanie Brown
Robin V - Damien Wayne


Needs more 90s Jubilee
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KanzarisKelshen
10/21/18 9:34:59 PM
#368:


ok, now that I have working internet again I think I'll put that match up in like half an hour. Let's get this show on the road fellas
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GenesisSagat
10/22/18 9:04:52 PM
#369:


Futurama

How in the hell did Tom and Jerry get this far? I vote for neither.
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KanzarisKelshen
10/22/18 9:05:35 PM
#370:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
ok, now that I have working internet again I think I'll put that match up in like half an hour. Let's get this show on the road fellas


This was interrupted by net troubles - so screw it, going up in a half hour, prepping the writeup now. I'll post a link when it's up.
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Johnbobb
10/22/18 9:06:57 PM
#371:


GenesisSagat posted...
Futurama

How in the hell did Tom and Jerry get this far? I vote for neither.

need more Tom and Jerry and Futurama mercs
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KanzarisKelshen
10/22/18 9:33:51 PM
#372:


FINALLY, IT'S HERE FOR YOU

It's the least new match from the M. E. R. X. Kru, HUH!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77122902

(here you go guys, apologies for the delays!)
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kaleee
10/23/18 9:02:03 PM
#373:


all right the tags on the third one is making me raise my eyebrows a bit
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DeathChicken
10/24/18 6:53:07 PM
#374:


Yeah, Link is a bit of a monster
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KanzarisKelshen
10/24/18 7:10:19 PM
#375:


Bout time he did more than suck

Seeing link get utterly ignored for four mercs in a row was depressing

Now all we gotta do is find a way to give mario and sonic credibility and we're good
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Tom Bombadil
10/24/18 7:15:56 PM
#376:


for sonic, put axel in the game specifically to counter him and he'll be fine!!
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Johnbobb
10/24/18 7:20:48 PM
#377:


for what it's worth, Super Sonic got way more respect I thought he would given how terrible the regular Sonic respect was
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KanzarisKelshen
10/24/18 7:23:12 PM
#378:


Johnbobb posted...
for what it's worth, Super Sonic got way more respect I thought he would given how terrible the regular Sonic respect was


Yeah but that kinda worried me tbh

Like supersonic got argued to solo p much, against a good high tier team

"Broken when he gets supermode, useless without" is not a great balance
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Tirofog
10/24/18 7:47:46 PM
#379:


Tom Bombadil posted...
for sonic, put axel in the game specifically to counter him and he'll be fine!!


heh
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Johnbobb
10/24/18 7:48:17 PM
#380:


Sonic is a risky character

I think that's fitting for him

When you own Sonic you play loose and fast and hope a slight stumble doesn't cause your entire team to crash and burn
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trdl23
10/25/18 2:59:14 AM
#381:


Sonic is bad and his series is worse
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KanzarisKelshen
10/25/18 3:19:34 AM
#382:


trdl23 posted...
Sonic is bad and his series is worse


why did I let this guy on the admin team again?
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trdl23
10/25/18 1:28:13 PM
#383:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
trdl23 posted...
Sonic is bad and his series is worse


why did I let this guy on the admin team again?

Because sometimes painful truths need to be stated plainly.
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ff6man
10/26/18 1:04:33 PM
#384:


I nominated him. Rest In Peace.
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KanzarisKelshen
10/26/18 3:03:04 PM
#385:


@Johnbobb I need your help here

And I also need everyone else's opinions while we're at it

Does this match look fair?

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Sonic the Hedgehog is as he appears across the Sonic series, with full access to all his showings seen therein except for Super Sonic feats, as he cannot achieve that super mode or any other. He is equipped with the Custom Shoes from Sonic 2006 and the Red, Blue and Green gems from that game, as well as <GIMMICK>, and <GIMMICK>.

~VS~

Lloyd Irving is as he appears in Tales of Symphonia. He is equipped with the Material Blade, has all of his EX Skills, and has access to all of his techniques, including Falcon Crest.

Terrain: Warring City Lumina Cloth - The Root Town of Omega Server, Lumina Cloth is basically a giant, lofty bridge between the territories of Icolo and the Arena, which has a smaller pathway encompassing the structure. The Chaos Gate is gone, no one is around, and access to the @home and Arena are forbidden. Everything else is fair game. Attackers will start at the entryway, with defenders starting behind the arena.

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And here's where I need John's advice. Sonic can choose two gimmicks from the following list:

-Sonic & The Black Knight: Caliburn sword and all its skills (including Soul Surge).
-Sonic 2006: Remaining four Gems for the custom shoes.
-Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric: Enerbeam, plus all of the game's weapons.
-Sonic Boom: Fire and Ice: Fire Mode and Ice Mode.
-Sonic Colors: One of each Wisp, activatable at any time.

Out of these I'm thinking about picking the Caliburn and Enerbeam + gunz from Rise of Lyric, but I wanted to get an expert's opinion. The idea is to round out Sonic's toolkit so he can do a bit more than just his usual 'run really fast and ram into people' stuff. Thoughts?

(If anybody thinks this matchup is very stompy in Lloyd's favor, lemme know too. The idea is to see if we can make Sonic kinda competitive within his tier, instead of a trap merc.)
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Johnbobb
10/26/18 5:30:51 PM
#386:


I really like including Caliburn, and even tried to bring it up in my arguments occasionally, because honestly I think having some sort of weapon that isn't just ramming straight into opponents

I personally do like the Enerbeam and Sonic Boom weapons too, but the issue there is nobody played Sonic Boom, myself included.

I would ideally go with the Wisps, because they're gonna be a lot more recognizable for voters, and provide a good variety of abilities
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UltraMana
10/27/18 5:00:46 PM
#387:


Also it probably helps that I missed half the show.
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KanzarisKelshen
10/27/18 5:57:26 PM
#388:


probably gonna put the lloyd/sanic match up tonight

Going with Johnbobb's idea of Caliburn plus Wisps, just to see where it takes us
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GenesisSagat
10/28/18 5:00:52 PM
#389:


Having finally played SH2 to its completion I will freely nominate James as well.
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KanzarisKelshen
10/28/18 8:00:02 PM
#390:


Mea culpa on not putting the match up last night, got sidetracked by IRL stuff

Going up in an hour, worry not
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KanzarisKelshen
10/28/18 9:04:24 PM
#391:


And it's up! Have at it: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77143147
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sraegonex
10/29/18 9:01:59 PM
#392:


Yup, thanks for the heads up though.
Working on a few features that having a large userbase will help out with so wanted to throw it into one bundle early on.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/29/18 9:06:09 PM
#393:


Final result of the match: Sonic beats Lloyd, 15-3.

(this might be off by a little, but not a lot. It was a very clean win for Sonic, which surprised me! Apparently lots of people favored him here.)
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Johnbobb
10/29/18 10:41:49 PM
#394:


ya go my sonic
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mnkbot907
10/30/18 10:00:45 PM
#395:


Crono

Only one more character left to save.
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DeathChicken
10/30/18 10:00:59 PM
#396:


I meant what I said, all those additions seemed like overcompensation for Sonic's bad case of Mercs AIDS
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KanzarisKelshen
10/30/18 11:11:03 PM
#397:


DeathChicken posted...
I meant what I said, all those additions seemed like overcompensation for Sonic's bad case of Mercs AIDS


I agree they shouldn't be needed DC

but we have to work with the votebase we get. If the gimmicks push Sonic up to his 'natural' level of respect before mercs aids, then I'm willing to keep them around for the sake of not making him a trap merc. Same way we're thinking of ways to counter Travis' 'too stupid' meme somehow to make him an attractive choice. Cause like...if we know it's a problem, we'd be straight up irresponsible admins if we didn't try to address it somehow.
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DeathChicken
10/31/18 12:16:20 AM
#398:


I mean the difference is Travis really is stupid enough to repeatedly step on land mines like that Simpsons bit where Sideshow Bob kept stepping on rakes. He has a cutscene where he did that. It isn't the job of the admins to make Travis better than he is in a battle sense
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KanzarisKelshen
10/31/18 12:40:30 AM
#399:


DeathChicken posted...
I mean the difference is Travis really is stupid enough to repeatedly step on land mines like that Simpsons bit where Sideshow Bob kept stepping on rakes. He has a cutscene where he did that. It isn't the job of the admins to make Travis better than he is in a battle sense


Oh yeah, I don't mean giving him like, intelligence buffs or anything

Just repricing him accordingly to the respect he really is gonna get

Sonic is harder to do that for because he's much more variable, so we need to stabilize him around SOME level, whether that's 2/week, 3/week, or 5.
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Johnbobb
10/31/18 11:17:57 AM
#400:


god Sonic as a 2/week

3/week is already a joke
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Gmun
11/01/18 5:06:52 PM
#401:


xenogears
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KanzarisKelshen
11/01/18 5:10:41 PM
#402:


Gmun posted...
xenogears


This reminds me

what would you guys put Rex from Xenoblade 2 at? I know nothing about it so don't know how strong or weak he is compared to Shulk
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