Current Events > Is it bad that I don't have any of this "white guilt" thing?

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Like, I've never understood the concept of feeling guilty for stuff you didn't do. I've always been nice to black people. Why should I feel guilty?

My ancestors didn't come here till 1910 anyway. They had nothing to do with slavery. My grandma did say the N word a lot, but I think that's a product of her time. I never say it though. And I'm best friends with a black lady at work.

So why should I feel guilty? How will my feeling guilty help anybody? :v
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Abyssea posted...

I've never understood the concept of feeling guilty for stuff you didn't do

because if you're white you still benefit from slavery
it doesn't matter if ur family wasn't here until 1910
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Abyssea posted...

I've never understood the concept of feeling guilty for stuff you didn't do

because you still benefit from slavery

how though? I don't think anything I've achieved in life is the result of slavery. >_> I mean... I went to community college.
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Abyssea posted...

how though? I don't think anything I've achieved in life is the result of slavery. >_> I mean... I went to community college.

The system is set up to benefit guys that look like you
at the behest of people who are still rich from money made from slavery
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Minorities are taking over America anyway. White dominance is dying.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Abyssea posted...

how though? I don't think anything I've achieved in life is the result of slavery. >_> I mean... I went to community college.

The system is set up to benefit guys that look like you
at the behest of people who are still rich from money made from slavery

that's not my fault though. I cant control how other people perceive me. Why should I feel bad for something someone else did?? that doesn't make sense!
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Abyssea posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Abyssea posted...

how though? I don't think anything I've achieved in life is the result of slavery. >_> I mean... I went to community college.

The system is set up to benefit guys that look like you
at the behest of people who are still rich from money made from slavery

that's not my fault though. I cant control how other people perceive me. Why should I feel bad for something someone else did?? that doesn't make sense!

Name the people suggesting you should feel guilty.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Abyssea posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Abyssea posted...

how though? I don't think anything I've achieved in life is the result of slavery. >_> I mean... I went to community college.

The system is set up to benefit guys that look like you
at the behest of people who are still rich from money made from slavery

that's not my fault though. I cant control how other people perceive me. Why should I feel bad for something someone else did?? that doesn't make sense!

Name the people suggesting you should feel guilty.

Vixen on Rupaul's Drag Race.
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No it's not. I'm very liberal and think that feeling guilty about being white is wrong. I feel you can acknowledge being privileged by being the same race of those who are in power and want to keep it without being ashamed or feeling guilty for being white.

These types who go to the extreme and try to lump all white people together and try to make us like we are inherently evil do injustice to Harmony and unity. These folk are also the loud minority and not what most people think.
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Abyssea posted...

that's not my fault though. I cant control how other people perceive me. Why should I feel bad for something someone else did?? that doesn't make sense!

white guilt isn't exactly about feeling bad is it
it's just about knowing that a group of people that you might resemble once oppressed persecuted and enslaved an entire people based on the color of their skin

and then treated them like shit every following year after that

you saying "why should i feel bad about things that happened before me" is just rationalization meant to absolve you, personally, of any crimes (that you have not committed)

this indicates that, at the very least, you understand that bad things happened in the past
so you sorta do harbor white guilt
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How do you know for sure that your family had nothing to do with slavery?
After all you may not fully be aware of what your ancestors did during the 1800's/early 1900's.
Hell, how do you know for sure what they're even telling you is the truth?
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...

It's not about you feeling bad. It's about recognizing certain advantages that you benefit from being white. Guilt isn't the right word

That's more understandable then. I try to be self-aware when it comes to stuff like that. I try to be thankful for what I've been given.
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No, it just means you're not throwing your life away to give money to people who in most cases could be out of poverty by this point.
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It is okay to be white
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Darkrobotisback posted...

How do you know for sure that your family had nothing to do with slavery?
After all you may not fully be aware of what your ancestors did during the 1800's/early 1900's.
Hell, how do you know for sure what they're even telling you is the truth?

my grandma had a scar on her forehead from when some boys threw rocks at her for not speaking English well in gradeschool. :v
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Abyssea posted...

I've never understood the concept of feeling guilty for stuff you didn't do

because if you're white you still benefit from slavery
it doesn't matter if ur family wasn't here until 1910

I hope you dont actually believe this kek
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https://chicago.cbslocal.com/tag/weekend-shootings/
I never told black people to kill each other. In fact if I had it my way I would make them stop.
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MedzXVIII posted...

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/tag/weekend-shootings/
I never told black people to kill each other. In fact if I had it my way I would make them stop.

>implying this is only happening because they're black
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How can a white person with no slave ownership in family history benefit from slavery?
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Abyssea posted...

Darkrobotisback posted...

How do you know for sure that your family had nothing to do with slavery?
After all you may not fully be aware of what your ancestors did during the 1800's/early 1900's.
Hell, how do you know for sure what they're even telling you is the truth?

my grandma had a scar on her forehead from when some boys threw rocks at her for not speaking English well in gradeschool. :v

What about your great grand parents or the people before them?
Anywhere between AD 1- 1865, slavery was widespread like 99% of the world.
No country on earth was safe from it, and almost every civilization on earth has had its hand on it.
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Scottydoesntno posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Abyssea posted...

I've never understood the concept of feeling guilty for stuff you didn't do

because if you're white you still benefit from slavery
it doesn't matter if ur family wasn't here until 1910

I hope you dont actually believe this kek

you've got a poor grasp of history if you don't think slave and plantation money, and the economic boons thereof, are not still a huge part of white america's wealth

generational wealth is very often the difference between a white person succeeding, and a black person failing
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MedzXVIII posted...

How can a white person with no slave ownership in family history benefit from slavery?

yeah
i guess you're right
i mean it's not like society is a system and people don't live in vacuums

did you understand this post at all or was it beyond comprehension to you

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

The system is set up to benefit guys that look like you
at the behest of people who are still rich from money made from slavery

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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

MedzXVIII posted...

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/tag/weekend-shootings/
I never told black people to kill each other. In fact if I had it my way I would make them stop.

>implying this is only happening because they're black

>Implying this is only happening because their great great great grandparents were slaves
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Even if you want to limit the discussion to slavery, and not the decades of discrimination and segregation that followed, northern industry was built on cheap southern cotton.
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SageHarpuia posted...

>Implying this is only happening because their great great great grandparents were slaves

>had nothing for generation after generation
>can't understand why there is still struggle

lmfaooo it's like you guys think slaves were paid minimum wage or something

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

you've got a poor grasp of history if you don't think slave and plantation money, and the economic boons thereof, are not still a huge part of white america's wealth

generational wealth is very often the difference between a white person succeeding, and a black person failing

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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

generational wealth

Dude

Not every white person gets a huge (or any) inheritance.
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All countries with a majority white population made slavery illegal. Countries with a majority of black population still have legal slavery.
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jeffhardyb0yz posted...

Abyssea posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Abyssea posted...

how though? I don't think anything I've achieved in life is the result of slavery. >_> I mean... I went to community college.

The system is set up to benefit guys that look like you
at the behest of people who are still rich from money made from slavery

that's not my fault though. I cant control how other people perceive me. Why should I feel bad for something someone else did?? that doesn't make sense!

It's not about you feeling bad. It's about recognizing certain advantages that you benefit from being white. Guilt isn't the right word

Affirmative action?
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SageHarpuia posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

generational wealth

Dude

Not every white person gets a huge (or any) inheritance.

He seems like he just hates white people or americans. He makes anti-white posts like this all the time. I always wonder if hes being sarcastic tbh
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It's like you think every white person lives in a condo and spends trillions of dollars a year flying to exclusive resorts in their private jets
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Very telling that tc phrased it as white guilt in the first place
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Darkrobotisback posted...

Abyssea posted...

Darkrobotisback posted...

How do you know for sure that your family had nothing to do with slavery?
After all you may not fully be aware of what your ancestors did during the 1800's/early 1900's.
Hell, how do you know for sure what they're even telling you is the truth?

my grandma had a scar on her forehead from when some boys threw rocks at her for not speaking English well in gradeschool. :v

What about your great grand parents or the people before them?
Anywhere between AD 1- 1865, slavery was widespread like 99% of the world.
No country on earth was safe from it, and almost every civilization on earth has had its hand on it.

If we back that far then pretty much all races were enslaving their own or other races, that doesn't really have anything to do with "white guilt."

But yeah, its dumb. Even *if* your ancestors were terrible and had slaves, you didn't so it's not your problem. In my case my ancestors fought for the North in the Civil War.

I dunno, I grew up in a pretty mixed neighborhood and it seemed everyone was on an even playing field, locally.
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SageHarpuia posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

generational wealth

Dude

Not every white person gets a huge (or any) inheritance.

lmfao if you think this is the only form of generational wealth

if you had parents who went to college and have life insurance you already have more than so many people
does that sound like "a huge inheritance" to you lmfao
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If you are a citizen of the United States, you have opportunities and other privileges that many people around the world do not. That is true whether you are a descendent of slave owners, a descendent of slaves or a descendent of neither. I don't think all members of developed nations, let alone just Americans, want to acknowledge that because it hampers various agendas. Having said that, I don't think anyone should ever feel guilty for something they did not do, regardless of the quality of life benefits they now enjoy.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Abyssea posted...

I've never understood the concept of feeling guilty for stuff you didn't do

because if you're white you still benefit from slavery
it doesn't matter if ur family wasn't here until 1910

unfortunately it is this
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SageHarpuia posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

generational wealth

Dude

Not every white person gets a huge (or any) inheritance.

When my father-in-law died we got his old recliner and a couple screw drivers and a hammer. Oh, and an empty gas can, I like it better than the one I was using before, 2 gallons instead of one, and it has better flow. CHA-CHING!

(oh, and no life insurance, we got to pay for the funeral and some other debts by maxing out credit cards, yay!)
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

SageHarpuia posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

generational wealth

Dude

Not every white person gets a huge (or any) inheritance.

lmfao if you think this is the only form of generational wealth

if you had parents who went to college and have life insurance you already have more than so many people
does that sound like "a huge inheritance" to you lmfao

What about if didn't have either of those things?
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SavenForever posted...

What about if didn't have either of those things?

congratulations your benefits apparently only extend to the social side of things, where you won't be followed to the back of a store just because you want to get a drink

or people won't try to diminish who you are and the struggles you've been through because of a perception that you are lazy and ungrateful now

must also be nice knowing your actions will not be representative of those who look like you too

must be nice that when you do something well or poorly it won't be attributed to your race
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I wish I inherited money >_> I've had to work for everything...
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Most people don't have generational wealth. This includes the vast majority of white Americans.

And the civil war decimated much of the south, in terms of infrastructure and also families. (The north too).

Ultimately we are not today in our present position as a superpower because of slavery.

My parents came here with nothing in the 80s, fleeing a communist third world country. Yet people in this topic would say we benefited from slavery lol. It's because the rhetoric is subtly anti-white. It's being used to butter up people into being ok with things like this:

https://www.leoweekly.com/2017/08/white-people/

When people who peddle this nonsense say it isn't about placing blame or forcing white people to give up stuff, that's not really true.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

or people won't try to diminish who you are and the struggles you've been through because of a perception that you are lazy and ungrateful now

they just diminish who we are and the struggles we've been through because of a perception that we have white privilege. kinda like how youre alluding to in this topic.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

they just diminish who we are and the struggles we've been through because of a perception that we have white privilege. kinda like how youre alluding to in this topic.

white privilege doesn't diminish the fact that people struggle in this world

people like you try to equate "white privilege" to being called the n-word and other dehumanising acts
but it's not the same

all it shows it that you're not quite understanding "white privilege" and instead chose to understand it under your own pretenses, and the understanding you chose is "SJWs think I have it easy because my skin is pale."
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

they just diminish who we are and the struggles we've been through because of a perception that we have white privilege. kinda like how youre alluding to in this topic.

white privilege doesn't diminish the fact that people struggle in this world

people like you try to equate "white privilege" to being called the n-word and other dehumanising acts
but it's not the same

there are people who diminish white struggles and white accomplishment by waving it away as being a product of white privilege. that is becoming more common because if this rhetoric. so idk what youre talking about.

i personally have had people tell me im where im at because of privilege. completely ignoring the effort and struggles and instead attributing it to things i dont control.
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People like YHNH would be reeeeeeeacist'ing if anyone other than white americans were being told to feel guilty for the atrocities of their ancestors that they had no part in.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

all it shows it that you're not quite understanding "white privilege" and instead chose to understand it under your own pretenses, and the understanding you chose is "SJWs think I have it easy because my skin is pale."

I always find it funny when people try this angle. "If you refuse to be steeped in my religious framework to such a degree that you mindlessly agree with me on everything, you're simply not quite understanding me."

Get off the high horse, what you're peddling isn't rocket science and you're mistaking a refusal to play along with not understanding what you're saying.

The only real privilege that exists is wealth privilege from inheriting millions, and most people don't experience that.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

they just diminish who we are and the struggles we've been through because of a perception that we have white privilege. kinda like how youre alluding to in this topic.

white privilege doesn't diminish the fact that people struggle in this world

people like you try to equate "white privilege" to being called the n-word and other dehumanising acts
but it's not the same

there are people who diminish white struggles and white accomplishment by waving it away as being a product of white privilege. that is becoming more common because if this rhetoric. so idk what youre talking about.

i personally have had people tell me im where im at because of privilege. completely ignoring the effort and struggles and instead attributing it to things i dont control.

So you purposefully listen to the idiotic vocal minority on the internet because it fits what you want to think?

lmao

I'm here telling you that white privilege =/= you didn't have to work for anything
All it means is that whiteness gave you a few helpers here and there
It's not an indictment
it's a fact
what you do after is up to you
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The concept of white guilt is born from a racist mindset. The premise that people are being told to feel guilty for the past as opposed to simply acknowledging it is ludicrous.
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I'm a democrat but I'm not ashamed to be white. Being white is part of who I am.
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