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metralo
06/24/18 2:37:49 AM
#51:


Trayvon posted...
when these same types would never in a million years even let a random homeless person on the street or some urban youth stay in their homes til they work shit out to have a better life.


lmfao jesus christ this is exactly what I would expect some stupid trump cultist to say
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DragonMaster525
06/24/18 2:43:29 AM
#52:


glitteringfairy posted...
HylianFox posted...
RoboLaserGandhi posted...
HylianFox posted...
It's more that refugees and illegal immigrants shouldn't be treated like garbage/criminals

Well illegal immigrants are criminals...

In the same way that jaywalking is a crime...

This guy thinks jaywalking and illegally entering a sovereign nation is the same thing


They are both minor misdemeanors in the US, so......yeah legally they are not very far apart.
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CW_McGraw
06/24/18 2:44:07 AM
#53:


Questionmarktarius posted...
CW_McGraw posted...
I always thought this was a dumb scene. Austin Powers would have been cryogenically frozen during Thatcher's rise to political prominence. It's conceivable he may have heard about her when she was a lower level English politician, but she assuredly wouldn't be the first person he would think of when imagining unattractive women to suppress his erection.

Don't apply logic and reason to Austin Powers.

But if you listen to Mike Myers talk about the movies he made, he speaks about how much he thought about every joke. Like in Wayne's World's Bohemian Rhapsody scene, the studio executives wanted him to put a Guns N' Roses song in instead, but he fought for the song he felt made the joke work. It's weird that a seemingly smart writer who cares deeply about minute details of jokes would let such an obvious anachronism through.
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DragonMaster525
06/24/18 2:45:38 AM
#54:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Awesome posted...
" the usa will allow open borders immediately, we decided to concede to the democrats. "

* immigrants start to pour in the usa by the millions *

...
....

* immigrant spots hipster liberal in nyc drinking starbucks, wearing puma shoes and talking on his iphone x "

" ey amigo, can you spare $20 dollars? me and my family just came from mexico and are very hungry "

democrat: " get a job you bum "

*immigrant takes the democrat to heart and gets a job. The immigrants have tremendous initiative, are educated, and will work extremely long hours that most people won't, plus they'll work for cheap.*

Republicans: "Dey teark er jherb!"


If you have so few skills in life that someone from Mexico who doesn't speak English can come and easily replace you at your job, that is your own fault, not his.
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metralo
06/24/18 3:13:19 AM
#55:


DragonMaster525 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Awesome posted...
" the usa will allow open borders immediately, we decided to concede to the democrats. "

* immigrants start to pour in the usa by the millions *

...
....

* immigrant spots hipster liberal in nyc drinking starbucks, wearing puma shoes and talking on his iphone x "

" ey amigo, can you spare $20 dollars? me and my family just came from mexico and are very hungry "

democrat: " get a job you bum "

*immigrant takes the democrat to heart and gets a job. The immigrants have tremendous initiative, are educated, and will work extremely long hours that most people won't, plus they'll work for cheap.*

Republicans: "Dey teark er jherb!"


If you have so few skills in life that someone from Mexico who doesn't speak English can come and easily replace you at your job, that is your own fault, not his.


now you understand why conservatives are so worried about it :)
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A_Good_Boy
06/24/18 3:18:26 AM
#56:


metralo posted...
DragonMaster525 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Awesome posted...
" the usa will allow open borders immediately, we decided to concede to the democrats. "

* immigrants start to pour in the usa by the millions *

...
....

* immigrant spots hipster liberal in nyc drinking starbucks, wearing puma shoes and talking on his iphone x "

" ey amigo, can you spare $20 dollars? me and my family just came from mexico and are very hungry "

democrat: " get a job you bum "

*immigrant takes the democrat to heart and gets a job. The immigrants have tremendous initiative, are educated, and will work extremely long hours that most people won't, plus they'll work for cheap.*

Republicans: "Dey teark er jherb!"


If you have so few skills in life that someone from Mexico who doesn't speak English can come and easily replace you at your job, that is your own fault, not his.


now you understand why conservatives are so worried about it :)

Yup.
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PrettyBoyMarth
06/24/18 4:11:07 AM
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The parents are using they're kids as shields to enter, It's trash. Btw, these kids/parents are being cared for very well with food/water.

As for the "outcry", It's just generic virtue signaling from the left, like they really give a shit about these kids, the parents, immigration or literally anything except how good of a person they come across to others/media.

Btw, kids are taken away from their parent/parents everyday in America through divorce, arrests, crimes (what these illegals are committing) and no one cares.
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randomdude360
06/24/18 4:47:28 AM
#58:


metralo posted...
DragonMaster525 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Awesome posted...
" the usa will allow open borders immediately, we decided to concede to the democrats. "

* immigrants start to pour in the usa by the millions *

...
....

* immigrant spots hipster liberal in nyc drinking starbucks, wearing puma shoes and talking on his iphone x "

" ey amigo, can you spare $20 dollars? me and my family just came from mexico and are very hungry "

democrat: " get a job you bum "

*immigrant takes the democrat to heart and gets a job. The immigrants have tremendous initiative, are educated, and will work extremely long hours that most people won't, plus they'll work for cheap.*

Republicans: "Dey teark er jherb!"


If you have so few skills in life that someone from Mexico who doesn't speak English can come and easily replace you at your job, that is your own fault, not his.


now you understand why conservatives are so worried about it :)


So you would think an American citizen would have certain reassurances in life and certain guarantees of a good standard of living, promised to him by being a member of one of the richest and powerful nations on Earth. Rather than feeling pity for your own people being basically ground under the gears, you laugh at them? I dont really understand it. So their life has been pretty much ruined by the fact that they grew up in the US and had certain expectations and hopes of a basic standard of living, only to one day be told actually sorry you have to work/live by Mexican standards now or we are all going to laugh at you when youre out a job

Literally the only way you can see that as fair is if youre one of those the market is god types which....kind of goes against the moral principle of everything democrat. Which is a kind of hypocrisy, basically.
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Webmaster4531
06/24/18 5:02:12 AM
#59:


randomdude360 posted...
metralo posted...
DragonMaster525 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Awesome posted...
" the usa will allow open borders immediately, we decided to concede to the democrats. "

* immigrants start to pour in the usa by the millions *

...
....

* immigrant spots hipster liberal in nyc drinking starbucks, wearing puma shoes and talking on his iphone x "

" ey amigo, can you spare $20 dollars? me and my family just came from mexico and are very hungry "

democrat: " get a job you bum "

*immigrant takes the democrat to heart and gets a job. The immigrants have tremendous initiative, are educated, and will work extremely long hours that most people won't, plus they'll work for cheap.*

Republicans: "Dey teark er jherb!"


If you have so few skills in life that someone from Mexico who doesn't speak English can come and easily replace you at your job, that is your own fault, not his.


now you understand why conservatives are so worried about it :)


So you would think an American citizen would have certain reassurances in life and certain guarantees of a good standard of living, promised to him by being a member of one of the richest and powerful nations on Earth. Rather than feeling pity for your own people being basically ground under the gears, you laugh at them? I dont really understand it. So their life has been pretty much ruined by the fact that they grew up in the US and had certain expectations and hopes of a basic standard of living, only to one day be told actually sorry you have to work/live by Mexican standards now or we are all going to laugh at you when youre out a job

Literally the only way you can see that as fair is if youre one of those the market is god types which....kind of goes against the moral principle of everything democrat. Which is a kind of hypocrisy, basically.

We just don't see it as Us vs. Them.

Both sides don't want illegal immigrant labor to be exploited. If it was same pay and a legal immigrant wins out on merit we'd just see a person winning on merit not "THEM" winning.
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EnragedSlith
06/24/18 5:02:34 AM
#60:


RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Garioshi posted...
Yeah, why should we grant asylum to people fleeing war zones and gang violence?

Because it's no one's responsibility to do so and it only brings negatives to you.

You don't have to be a hero.

You should probably re-examine the tenets America and its culture were founded upon.
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A_Good_Boy
06/24/18 5:08:17 AM
#61:


randomdude360 posted...
metralo posted...
DragonMaster525 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
Awesome posted...
" the usa will allow open borders immediately, we decided to concede to the democrats. "

* immigrants start to pour in the usa by the millions *

...
....

* immigrant spots hipster liberal in nyc drinking starbucks, wearing puma shoes and talking on his iphone x "

" ey amigo, can you spare $20 dollars? me and my family just came from mexico and are very hungry "

democrat: " get a job you bum "

*immigrant takes the democrat to heart and gets a job. The immigrants have tremendous initiative, are educated, and will work extremely long hours that most people won't, plus they'll work for cheap.*

Republicans: "Dey teark er jherb!"


If you have so few skills in life that someone from Mexico who doesn't speak English can come and easily replace you at your job, that is your own fault, not his.


now you understand why conservatives are so worried about it :)


So you would think an American citizen would have certain reassurances in life and certain guarantees of a good standard of living, promised to him by being a member of one of the richest and powerful nations on Earth. Rather than feeling pity for your own people being basically ground under the gears, you laugh at them? I dont really understand it. So their life has been pretty much ruined by the fact that they grew up in the US and had certain expectations and hopes of a basic standard of living, only to one day be told actually sorry you have to work/live by Mexican standards now or we are all going to laugh at you when youre out a job

Literally the only way you can see that as fair is if youre one of those the market is god types which....kind of goes against the moral principle of everything democrat. Which is a kind of hypocrisy, basically.

What happened to bootstraps and personal responsibility?
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skimmedmilk
06/24/18 5:29:08 AM
#62:


Garioshi posted...
Yeah, why should we grant asylum to people fleeing war zones and gang violence?

because later on that refugees would make a gang and make violence on your city.
We all knew what happened in sweden
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gmanthebest
06/24/18 5:29:22 AM
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There's nothing wrong with enforcing immigration laws. Every country has their own laws, and that's ok.
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Rob Cesternino
06/24/18 5:30:35 AM
#64:


Liberals would love to see America turned into the second version of Mexico.

Soon the suburbs will look like the streets of Tijuana
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Webmaster4531
06/24/18 6:13:40 AM
#65:


Rob Cesternino posted...
Liberals would love to see America turned into the second version of Mexico.

Soon the suburbs will look like the streets of Tijuana

WTF? Mexico is the libertarian/classical liberal dream.
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tennisdude818
06/24/18 8:54:13 AM
#67:


Politicians probably want to import more Democrats.

https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households#refugees

Welfare use varies among immigrant groups. Households headed by immigrants from Central America and Mexico (73 percent), the Caribbean (51 percent), and Africa (48 percent) have the highest overall welfare use. Those from East Asia (32 percent), Europe (26 percent), and South Asia (17 percent) have the lowest.


The height of democratic integrity: buying votes with other people's money.
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EnragedSlith
06/25/18 4:23:55 AM
#68:


tennisdude818 posted...
Politicians probably want to import more Democrats.

https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households#refugees

Welfare use varies among immigrant groups. Households headed by immigrants from Central America and Mexico (73 percent), the Caribbean (51 percent), and Africa (48 percent) have the highest overall welfare use. Those from East Asia (32 percent), Europe (26 percent), and South Asia (17 percent) have the lowest.


The height of democratic integrity: buying votes with other people's money.

Or maybe, just maybe, its primarily an altruistic drive instead of some sneaky underhanded conspiracy. Theres also nothing stopping Republicans from appealing to non-white demographics
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Vertania
06/25/18 5:03:19 AM
#69:


EnragedSlith posted...
Or maybe, just maybe, its primarily an altruistic drive instead of some sneaky underhanded conspiracy.

LMAO, that's a good one

No, it's about the votes:
https://www.census.gov/population/apportionment/about/faq.html#Q16
Are undocumented residents (aliens) in the 50 states included in the apportionment population counts?

Yes, all people (citizens and noncitizens) with a usual residence in the 50 states are to be included in the census and thus in the apportionment counts.
Basically, illegal immigrants are included in the population counts that help determine a states electoral votes.

Makes a huge difference in a state like California, which gets the most electoral votes of any state in the country (55) and also happens to have the highest percentage of the country's illegal population (25%). With ~2.6 million illegal aliens (making up ~7% of the state's population), they get enough extra electoral votes to negate entire states.

^Population stats taken from: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States
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Kineth
06/25/18 5:12:56 AM
#70:


Vertania posted...

That's not exclusive to California. You know there's Texas, right?
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Vertania
06/25/18 5:19:37 AM
#71:


Kineth posted...
That's not exclusive to California. You know there's Texas, right?

If I thought it was exlcusive to California, I wouldn't have said:
Vertania posted...
in a state like California

And even with Texas having the second highest number of electoral votes at 38, it's still 17 behind California. That's enough votes to negate all 5 states between WA/OR and Minnesota.
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Vertania
06/25/18 5:47:19 AM
#72:


And if you want to look at the states with the top 10 highest percentage of illegals:
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The blue states got 130 electoral votes in 2016, while the red states got 109. 21 votes is a pretty significant advantage.
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DifferentialEquation
06/25/18 8:49:18 AM
#73:


EnragedSlith posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
Politicians probably want to import more Democrats.

https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households#refugees

Welfare use varies among immigrant groups. Households headed by immigrants from Central America and Mexico (73 percent), the Caribbean (51 percent), and Africa (48 percent) have the highest overall welfare use. Those from East Asia (32 percent), Europe (26 percent), and South Asia (17 percent) have the lowest.


The height of democratic integrity: buying votes with other people's money.

Or maybe, just maybe, its primarily an altruistic drive instead of some sneaky underhanded conspiracy. Theres also nothing stopping Republicans from appealing to non-white demographics


It's not really altruism when it's other people's money you're using.
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