Board 8 > Fire Emblem Heroes Discussion Topic Part 18: Four Fangs Reunited!

(+) Yeah! (+)

*In about a week from now.

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Friend Code Stuff: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kqf2cBCsvAviL5rvOSpE1baG8Fwrn8oQfhuQAfbB9tg/edit?usp=sharing (Thank you Yankees!)

Pretty stocked for Legault as well. Dude deserves it.

(No room for "Pray, I'll give you that much time" for the title.)
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And since this next banner is Fang related

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Imagine if they get Lloyd's artist back to do Linus
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I wish they got Lloyd's artist to do Nino that would be legendary
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Lopen posted...

I wish they got Lloyd's artist to do Nino that would be legendary

Ha, no. That person needs to stay far away from this game
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I feel kinda bad for Elibe fans, I feel like their characters bat by far the worst average in terms of art quality. Lloyd, OG Eliwood, Rebecca, Gwendolyn are particularly egregious.
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Isn't Kaze pretty popular in Japan? Him being reduced to f2p is pretty surprising
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Free units are not necessarily unpopular units. We just got a free Marth not that long ago.
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I hope mad dog linus has an equally constipated face as his brother
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Total Rank: 4,494 (2.6k)
Army Rank: 16,015 (2.3k)

Whoo Team Gunnthra!
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Same hell can suck it
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Breaking News: Random Waifu Wins Voting Gauntlet, Dozens are Surprised
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You can count me as one of those dozens if you'd like. Was pretty sure she was going to lose to Ryoma because Fates + New Legendary.

After that she was up against literally Ike so I told myself to stop caring about the VG because he's going to win again.

Until he didn't.

At that point I was more surprised The Benchlord made it to the finals.

Pretty neat VG overall I'd say.
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Ike Ryoma and especially Alfonse are pretty zzzzzz so can't really be too upset a waifu wins this time. Wrong waifu but meh.
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Alfonse would have been a great 'wait really' winner. Pretty sure he was the weakest contender in the entire thing.
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Alfonse was a bit stronger than Sharena which means he's only a bit stronger than the weakest character in the bracket.
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Sharena the true benchwarmer. It took some convincing, but I don't regret upgrading Alfonse because he has slightly better bulk and can take on swords and greens with Swordbreaker, but Sharena can only take on swords WITH Swordbreaker and can't take on anything else. With the arena bonus, Sharena becomes less sucky and makes the chance I'll upgrade her someday not 0%, but I have yet to need her as a bonus in arena
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I'm realizing that voting gauntlets are definitely my least favorite of the rotating game modes. I usually only participate to get the 4 orbs per round. I feel like the multipliers are so crazy that the winners are pretty much random, so it's hard to get invested.

Anyway, I bit the bullet and bought some orbs so I could cash out on that 11.5%, and I ended up getting a second Innes and a Sigurd. Not exactly what I was looking for, but I'll take it. I was hoping for an Innes with a better nature than my original +HP -Attack one, but I ended up getting a +Attack -Speed one, bleh. I would just give him a brave bow, but Leon already fulfills that role very well for me. I guess I'll just merge and hope I pull a better nature one in the future. And I probably won't get much use out of Sigurd either since I already have quite a few good red cavalry units, but maybe I'll build him more defensively so maybe he can carve out a niche for himself.
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Reminder: Maintenance at 6 pm EDT today. I'm curious what the new refines will be!
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Merric's refine will be a good litmus test for how far they're willing to go to buff a character. He's widely considered among the worst in the game so I think they'll give him a token passive effect and call it a day. And considering how much they buffed Roy and Felicia when they weren't nearly as bad...we'll have to see.
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Maybe ATiki's refine will finally convince me to upgrade her. Also looking forward to Linde's upgrade and hoping I can dust her off if she finally carves a niche for herself instead of as another Bladetome user. That -Atk hurts, though >_<

I'm anxiously waiting for Kagero's upgrade. IS really has proven it cares very little for daggers. They're still mediocre
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I think Kagero's poison dagger is still relevant, just not nearly as dominant as it was when the game started-- I have a level 40+1 Kagero though (she was my first 5* but she had -Atk, so because I like her and because it'd be a massive upgrade I upgraded a +Atk/-Def one) and I find her useful in AA at least.

Giving it the splashing stat drop and letting the stat drop hit all targets would probably make her decent. If you wanted to make it actually good building in Death Blow 3 into it as a special weapon refine would probably be plenty.

I hope at some point they consider adding skills to buff a character rather than making. Give Odin a Power Overflowing skill that makes buffs on him more potent somehow and he'd be usable with just his Blarblade. (That kinda was the idea with him and then skill inheritance came out)
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I'd even be happy being able to do a generic refine on Poison Dagger so you can get like +5 HP and +3 Speed or something. I also hope eventually we're able to refine Raven tomes and the Triangle Adept weapons. It seems weird that you can't already, seeing as they're not particularly powerful on their own.
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While we're at it, it's a wonder why as integral to the plot as the Askr trio is, their weapons are still unrefinable. Also, they need to make Assault+ a reality, as there's basically no reason to use it now if your healer is 5*. Give it a 3/4 Mt increase and it'll be something worth considering
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If I could actually merge Anna or upgrade her weapon I would actually consider 5*ing her. As it is it just seems like 20k wasted feathers even if she is one of my favorite axe users in the game that isn't 5* locked.
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Breath of Fog is a Falchion in breath form basically. Unfortunately it's Falchion right down to a lack of distant counter.

Kinda think Lightning Breath is better sadly :(

Good for Young Tiki though if you don't want to give her Lightning Breath since Flametongue is kinda not good, but I don't see myself taking Lightning Breath off my Adult Tiki
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Taught it to my Y.Tiki. Holding off on the dew for the time being(Not like I can merge her anyway).

And I think I'm going to just avoid the FEH Board/Reddit until tomorrow just in case someone decides to put a spoiler(implied or blatant) in the topic title >_>
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Merric...

Excalibur: 14 Might, 2 Range, Effective against flying units. Accelerates Special trigger (cooldown count-1).

Weapon Refinery-
Effective against flying units. Accelerates Special trigger (cooldown count-1). If unit is within 2 spaces of magic or staff ally, grants Atk/Spd+5 during combat.
15 Might, Rng 2, HP +2
14 Might, Rng 2, HP +2, Spd +2
14 Might, Rng 2, HP +2, Def +3
14 Might, Rng 2, HP +2, Res +3

I guess that's really good. Atk/Spd +5 make his offensive stat line actually decent and he keeps his bulk.

But then compared to Linde

Aura: 14 Might, 2 Range, At start of turn, grants Atk+6 to adjacent magic and staff allies for 1 turn.

At start of turn, grants Atk+6 to adjacent magic and staff allies for 1 turn. If unit is within 2 spaces of magic or staff ally, grants Atk/Spd+5 during combat.
15 Might, Rng 2, HP +2
14 Might, Rng 2, HP +2, Spd +2
14 Might, Rng 2, HP +2, Def +3
14 Might, Rng 2, HP +2, Res +3

Who gets a weapon almost as good and wasn't actually weak to begin with, and I'm wondering if they are actually considering balance when making these things or are just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.
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Blarblade still seems to be better for Linde, no? Staff ally support is the reason we need Assault+
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Linde gives up some offensive power in exchange for better support of her allies. She will still hit like a truck, though.
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The difference in Attack between new Aura and Blarblade, both without buffs, is 5 in Aura's favor. A Blarblade with +4 to all stats gains 16 extra attack, while Aura gains 5 bonus attack if near an ally, making the difference 6 in Blarblade's favor. However, Aura's bonus also grants 5 bonus speed, doesn't reduce the special cooldown by one, and can buff mage allies with +6 attack. It's also better in cases where Linde doesn't have an ally around.

If you have another mage on your team, Aura seems much better unless you reeeeally need to nuke something with as much damage as possible. The loss in Attack is more than made up by the extra Speed and other perks.
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Depends on teamcomps but I could see Linde's prf being better in many cases. Speed +5 on her stat line really opens up a lot of doubles on speedy targets

I guess Merric has killing edge and flying effectiveness which is a pretty big boost but I do feel like the enhanced Atk Spd Bond is the meat of the boost so it's weird to see Linde get that as well. I guess you could argue it helps him more than her though
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Is Linde's weapon the first encouragement to use mages in... basically forever? I guess IS finally feels they hit a balance there after months of correcting for blade tomes and Reinhardt.

Poison Dagger and Kitty Paddle both badly need to apply their debuffs against all targets, rather than just what they hit weakness on. As is if they go up against a team that doesn't have infantry/mages, they're garbage.
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KamikazePotato posted...

The difference in Attack between new Aura and Blarblade, both without buffs, is 5 in Aura's favor. A Blarblade with +4 to all stats gains 16 extra attack, while Aura gains 5 bonus attack if near an ally, making the difference 6 in Blarblade's favor. However, Aura's bonus also grants 5 bonus speed, doesn't reduce the special cooldown by one, and can buff mage allies with +6 attack. It's also better in cases where Linde doesn't have an ally around.

If you have another mage on your team, Aura seems much better unless you reeeeally need to nuke something with as much damage as possible. The loss in Attack is more than made up by the extra Speed and other perks.

But keep in mind that Blrblade+ is 4 points stronger than Blrblade. So before any buffs, Aura is only 1 point stronger, not 5.
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Poison Dagger will probably never be given an upgrade until Infantry units aren't the de facto worst class.
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Upgrade poison dagger to sting shuriken and make it effective against armors obviously
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Team Rocket Elite posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

The difference in Attack between new Aura and Blarblade, both without buffs, is 5 in Aura's favor. A Blarblade with +4 to all stats gains 16 extra attack, while Aura gains 5 bonus attack if near an ally, making the difference 6 in Blarblade's favor. However, Aura's bonus also grants 5 bonus speed, doesn't reduce the special cooldown by one, and can buff mage allies with +6 attack. It's also better in cases where Linde doesn't have an ally around.

If you have another mage on your team, Aura seems much better unless you reeeeally need to nuke something with as much damage as possible. The loss in Attack is more than made up by the extra Speed and other perks.

But keep in mind that Blrblade+ is 4 points stronger than Blrblade. So before any buffs, Aura is only 1 point stronger, not 5.

Ah, misread that. Yeah that's a much bigger difference in nuking power than before, although the extra Speed is still worth a lot of hidden killing potential.
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Yea, new Aura is better as ally support. I can finally dust Linde off, but now I really need to get one without a debilitating nature
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NeoElfboy posted...

Is Linde's weapon the first encouragement to use mages in... basically forever?

Lloyd's weapon gives him +3 to all stats if an infantry mage is within 2 spaces.

Of course that requires using Lloyd which isn't all that likely outside of his fans.
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I'm pretty sure my Adult Tiki will be keeping lightning breath. I may just teach it to Young Tiki since I never invested in a different weapon.

Aura is pretty nice. Linde can be a nice speedy support unit for Tharja or Nino if you want her to. I think I will just keep her bladetome, but it is nice to see mages get something new
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Breath of Fog trades DC for more power and super effectiveness against other dragons. Not sure if it also gets the healing benefit, but it's an iffy tradeoff and I love DC, so the only reason people would make the swap is if they need a bulky answer to dragons

The inconsistencies in refinements still irk me. They've generally been good to great, but wtf were they smoking with Leo's, and Karel's/Fir's is lazy
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I liked Leo's because it's accurate to the game but it was a bit undertuned.
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Dark Young Link posted...

Lloyd's weapon gives him +3 to all stats if an infantry mage is within 2 spaces.

Of course that requires using Lloyd which isn't all that likely outside of his fans.

Good catch, both on its existence and on the reason I forgot about it. <_<
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I wasted no time

https://imgur.com/jr0Qldp
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Wasn't planning on pulling seriously on Legault, but he pitybroke me rather early. Nino.... was more shy, costing 120ish orbs before she finally showed up(Oh and Lachesis finally graced my halls as a 3*)
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-spd +hp Nino. Nature sucks but I guess it can still work
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Leagult is +Res/-Spd

Nino is +Atk/-Res Not too bad!

Huh. Apparently Linus has Basilikos. Well I know where my dews are going at once he's released!
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I was never going to commit a lot of orbs to this banner as I really want to save up for the summer, so I'm pretty damn happy to get a +Atk -HP Karla for 8 orbs. Probably her overall 2nd best nature.
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Poor Canas though; the other 4 new units all look quite good, but his statline and skills are so underwhelming.
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i got Swordhardt from the initial session, -atk. that's my first time summoning him. i want flying Nino but i also still want flying Ninian (i actually have their normal versions supporting each other).
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