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HanOfTheNekos
05/30/18 2:35:38 PM
#1:


Courtesy of digiplex, I have been watching the ENTIRE MCU, from the beginningish. Posting notes on here as I go. Just to be clear:

NO SPOILERS for anything that I haven't put a write-up for, so far. You can find the list of what I've watched so far at the end of this first post.

Last time, I said I was about to put my thoughts up for Hulk then got busy and the topic purged. I blame @GTM. But, continuing on...

The Incredible Hulk

It was not as terrible as people make it out to be. That said, it wasn't a good movie.

I think the general word is that it meandered. I didn't really care too much about what was going on. There was a little too much "show, don't tell", to where I was just waiting to actually be pulled in to the movie. It was pretty clear from the beginning - Ed Norton turned into Hulk. Hulk attacked his girlfriend. Hulk ran away. Ed Norton wants to not turn into Hulk. Ed Norton finds a way to stop turning into Hulk. Ed Norton banks on that not working as he plummets to death. He turns back into Hulk. Ed Norton then turns into Mark Ruffalo.

His girlfriend just left her new guy on a whim for Ed Norton. That sucked. She also should've died a few times, but didn't. I guess they wanted to avoid having a Peter Parker-esque origin story? Her dad was ruthlessly assholish towards Ed Norton, but changed his mind at the end because "oh shit, the not-Hulk is dangerous".

The action was ok. There was a lot of it, and it wasn't the most exciting thing. Kinda wish Hulk didn't say "Hulk smash", but I guess that's like having Iron Man not say "Avengers Assemble" or Spiderman not saying "go web" or Captain America not saying "Hail Hydra".

Abomination (that's his name, right?) was a solid villain. He was an action boy that wanted a good body and loved to fight. So much that the experimental treatments on him gave him a crazy high and he just wanted more. Went kinda crazy. That's pretty standard comic book fare. And what's his name, the Leader, some who-cares Hulk villain had a part to play too. Not that the Hulk would get another movie to use him in...

What I will say, is that Stan Lee's cameo was A+ in this movie. Old man that drinks the Hulk Blood and gets gamma poisoning. Excellent.

Ultimately, the best part of this movie was when RDJ showed up at the end as Stark. That... kinda makes me want to jump right into Iron Man 2. I think I'll do that before hitting up Agent Carter: S2.

Movies
Iron Man
Captain America: The First Avenger
The Incredible Hulk

TV Shows
Agent Carter: S1
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My Immortal
05/30/18 3:27:31 PM
#2:


Tag

I think Hulk is the only MCU movie/show I've never seen.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/30/18 3:45:25 PM
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@Corrik I trust you have an archive of my first topic
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Mr Lasastryke
05/30/18 3:56:38 PM
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all topics get archived on GMUN's site.

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banananor
05/30/18 4:21:27 PM
#5:


if you're doing okay so far, i think you'll enjoy the rest of the universe

out of the ones i've seen, hulk and iron man 2 were the weakest
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StartTheMachine
05/30/18 4:25:16 PM
#6:


Man phase 1 really is so meh, though I am a surprisingly big fan of Thor 1. The MCU films really pick up in phase 2 though, especially The Winter Soldier onward. So you have an enormous leap in quality to look forward to in the near future.
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Mr Lasastryke
05/30/18 4:42:08 PM
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yeah, phase 1 has avengers 1 but not much else worth getting excited about. (i know everyone loves iron man 1 and i'm in an extremely small minority, but i couldn't stand that movie.)
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HanOfTheNekos
05/30/18 5:10:47 PM
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Iron Man 2

Man, they're really pushing Hammer as the villain here. Hope it's not as obvious as it appears.

Whiplash's introduction is kinda lame. He's Russian. Yells. Wow.

I almost don't like that they have this subplot of Tony dying from Palladium poisoning. Makes it hard to care about other conflicts.

Rhodey sure looks different. And Natalie Rushmore has the same actress as Natalia Romanov. The name also looks pretty similar. Seems like a pretty dumb mistake.

Aaaaand there goes Hammer being the bad guy. Still waiting to care about Whiplash. He's eh. They're spending too much time on Tony's midlife crisis for me to care about other things though.

This whole Iron Man-War Machine fight is silly and seems processed to just sell movie tickets. And that line, "You wanna be a war machine?" Gag.

I'm gonna post now because I'm on mobile and want to switch to laptop.
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tcaz2
05/30/18 5:14:52 PM
#9:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
This whole Iron Man-War Machine fight is silly and seems processed to just sell movie tickets.


Yeah that's basically Iron Man 2 in a nutshell
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Corrik
05/30/18 6:05:17 PM
#10:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
@Corrik I trust you have an archive of my first topic

Lol why would I have an archive.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/30/18 6:16:44 PM
#11:


I guess they made Hammer so unbelievably unlikable to make Whiplash more likable?

Nick Fury shows up and says... Tony turned him down?

So does this movie take place before the post-credits scene of Hulk then? Tony said he was looking for

Hammer handing this bunker-buster to Rhodes feels like a Chekhov's gun.

Young Howard Stark is better than middle-aged Howard Stark. This whole montage of watching old videos of him is dumb. It does nothing, aside from give him a chance to know his dad loved him. Wow.

Coulson is really catty in this film. Not sure if I like.

The pacing in this film is just.... eh. Something happens. Something immediately happens in response. It feels often like you're just in one extended scene.

And... Tony fixes his health problem. Suddenly... the movie is more interesting? I get that it's heading into the climax, but man I'm suddenly a lot more engaged.

Love Happy "I'm not driving you anywhere!" "Want me to drive?" "No I'm driving!" And then Peter Parker makes his debut appearance in the MCU.

Black Widow is awesome, but this scene with her breaking into Hammer headquarters is dumb. Just bring Hammer next time so you have authorization in person. It was cool watching Happy beat up a guy though.

Scene between Rhodes and Tony is A+. Fight scene that follows is pretty solid as well. Whiplash is a little disappointing though... the guy designs everything to get back at Stark... and he goes and fights him with a shoddy helmet and whips? For one, Tony is an idiot for not just flying away and getting distance, but after all this arc reactor stuff, Ivan just makes arc whips? Come on man. I guess that was the best way to get a physical consistent arc-powered weapon, but jeez. How lame.

O'Reilly and Musk cameos were a little funny. Stan Lee's was as lame as his Iron Man 1 one, except this time it was a split second and easy to miss.

Overall... what a transitional film. Basically existed to introduce Black Widow, and Rhodes as Iron Man, I guess. And further Tony's story development, but... eh. The vast portion of the movie was just uninteresting. And annoying at times. It had some really good moments, particularly between RDJ and Cheadle. Paltrow and Scarjo were amazing as well. But the plot, pacing, most of the action, the villain(s)... just, bleh. I'm going to have to ruminate on this for a bit to see if I rank it above or below Hulk.

Post-credits scene with Coulson driving out to New Mexico was hype as hell though. Thor has a lot of trouble fitting in to modern society, but that hammer. DAMN.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/30/18 6:26:29 PM
#12:


The decision was actually pretty easy. I'm going to repost my write-ups for the first 3 things first though.

Iron Man
Better than I remember it being. From the very beginning, I laugh a lot, and I'm immediately enamored by Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark. This was the most important Marvel casting decision - they needed to reel people in from the beginning, and in minute 1, Tony is already cracking jokes and winning people over. I'm not checking how much they pay him, but the MCU owes a lot to this man.

The origin story is good. Tony's Dr. friend is fun, and the amount of time they spend in the cave seems appropriate to really establish all the important things - Tony has a thing next to his heart keeping him alive, and he's real smart and builds stuff. It also establishes early on that he IS a good person, which allows them to show him off to be the jerk he really is.

The building of the Iron Man suit is a fun little montage, but it feels like it jumps really quickly from him figuring out the boosting from the gauntlets and boots to the whole suit. But it's still fun. I missed the action scene in the middle of the movie, but it sounded like it was probably pretty good!

Peppering in SHIELD was pretty neat as well. Coulson really nailed it from the beginning.

The romance with Pepper was done solidly, but from the very beginning it was pretty obviously being pushed onto us. Even Tony's jerkiness wasn't going to be enough to stop it. And Obadiah... equally obvious. From the beginning, he seemed like he was pretty obviously going to be the villain (and I mean IMMEDIATELY, as soon as the magazine cover of "Obadiah takes over Stark Industries" was covered by "Tony takes over as a 21 year-old!"). Also, there's the fact that he's the villain in GotG 2. And dare I say... Infinity War?

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marvelmovies/images/d/da/Obadiah_Stane.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080410015733
https://www.sideshowtoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/marvel-avengers-infinity-war-thanos-sixth-scale-figure-hot-toys-feature-903429-1.jpg

Even from the first movie were there references to Thanos! (Aislyn disagrees with me that they look alike but w/e)

The climax was... alright. Tony vs. Obadiah wasn't necessarily the coolest battle, and the suits icing up scene was pretty clearly telegraphed from early on. However, everything blowing up was cool.

Post-credits scene - Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury was maybe the 2nd most important casting decision in the MCU (I'd only argue Starlord over him, at the moment... Tom Holland could beat that later on). And letting the audience know from the beginning about the "Avengers Initiative" was brilliant. I don't know if Marvel expected to be as successful as they have been, but they were gunning for it.

Best moment of the film?

"Actually... I am Iron Man."
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Bane_Of_Despair
05/30/18 6:29:54 PM
#13:


Iron Man 2 is at the bottom of the MCU for me along with Thor 2

And actually Avengers 2 is pretty far down.....luckily Captain America 2 and GOTG 2 give the 2's a good name!
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HanOfTheNekos
05/30/18 6:39:36 PM
#14:


Captain America: The First Avenger

And we begin the pattern of Captain America movies having subtitles from the beginning.

Given that this movie was released at the end of Phase 1 before Avengers, it begins in the 'present', and acts as a flashback. Cap's origins are done well - we get to experience weak Steve Rogers. He's short and weak. Reminds me of myself, but with less charm. Also, we get to meet Bucky from the beginning! Fans are like 'omg, it's him'.

Anyway, Erskine is a total boss and was written well enough to make you upset when he gets canned. The buildup as we learn how good a dude Rogers is solid, and we get to see Nazi Elrond go super bad, which is a really effective way to get him introduced. Peggy Carter is also added in pretty well - well casted, well acted, and you get the feeling that she doesn't just want Steve for his future muscles. Speaking of which, he gets used to his new body really quickly.

The montage of him being the stage show is meh. It has some good moments, but it's more of a plot setter, and not particularly enrapturing. The plot really doesn't do a whole lot until Cap decides to go behind enemy lines, directly proving wrong the line about "you're just one man". This scene, while done well, has some bad moments. Cap meeting Skull is good, but the reveal of his face being... the Red Skull, is kinda lame. Simply because his Elrond face was too good that him taking it off felt odd because it wasn't telegraphed enough. Erskine talked about extra changes happening, but it felt more... odd that the guy just had a red head. Also, the stakes with him and Bucky escaping were a little too high for this point in the film.

Getting his new shield is kinda cool. Peggy getting mad at him is a little silly and unnecessary. Stan Lee's cameo was pretty solid... got a funny line out of it. Joining up with the Howling Commandos and Dum Dum is a fun nod to comics fans as well. The combat after Cap gets his shield is pretty great, and I wish they had a little more of it before the film ended, but oh well. And then Bucky dies! Oh no D: It's so sad when someone dies off screen.

The climax of the film was done pretty well, although the pacing was maybe a bit stunted. Everything occurring in the bomber was great, including Red Skull's defeat, as well as the <strikethrough>infinity stone</strikethrough> Tesseract falling into the water. Even though Cap's descent into the water was sad, it was mainly only sad for Peggy because we knew Cap would be alright. And I'm very glad they still kept the romance on the early stages - the two obviously cared a lot for each other, but didn't go so far as to "I love you". That could have been written poorly, and it luckily wasn't.

The ending to the film was done pretty solidly as well. Cap reappearing in the 21st century and running around Times Square was solid, and like with Iron Man, the film ended with a pretty good one-liner.

Overall, the villain was WAY better than Iron Man's, and it did a good job at introducing the Tesseract, but the film was a little long and dragged a bit at points. While very good... it just doesn't quite hold my attention well enough to be placed above Iron Man.
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swordz9
05/30/18 7:31:53 PM
#15:


Iron Man 1 is so good. Its a shame 2 and 3 are pretty ehhh. Somehow Captain America got the best trio of films in the MCU despite probably being the most boring character of the group.
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Jakyl25
05/30/18 7:54:11 PM
#16:


HanOfTheNekos posted...

Nick Fury shows up and says... Tony turned him down?

So does this movie take place before the post-credits scene of Hulk then? Tony said he was looking for


This particular bit of chronology is a mess that needed some of the most heavy handed retconning Ive ever seen
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RyoCaliente
05/30/18 8:03:01 PM
#17:


swordz9 posted...
Iron Man 1 is so good. Its a shame 2 and 3 are pretty ehhh. Somehow Captain America got the best trio of films in the MCU despite probably being the most boring character of the group.


Iron Man 1
Cap 2
Thor 3

How's that for a mind blown eh?
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swordz9
05/30/18 8:09:15 PM
#18:


I havent seen Thor 3 yet, but everybody says its good. It is weird how that happened. I guess Avengers counts as a trio now even if the latest one is like half of the movie or whatever. I have a couple movies in the MCU to see still, but theyre not up on Netflix or Hulu or anything I have yet
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Mr Lasastryke
05/30/18 8:12:45 PM
#19:


swordz9 posted...
I havent seen Thor 3 yet, but everybody says its good.


i don't.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/30/18 9:05:43 PM
#20:


Agent Carter: Season 1

I alluded to it earlier, but some of the early writing for side characters was pretty cheesy. They really nailed it with Peggy, Howard, and Jarvis though. As the season went on, it strayed further away from that. There were still moments of cheese throughout, but it didn't pervade.

While I think Peggy's character was well-done, I am a little disappointed that the show took a "this is 1950's America" approach to their British woman who was a war hero. Not only does she get no respect, but nobody is even aware of a reason why she's an agent at the SSR. Her capabilities are basically nil. They answer this later with why she did her own investigation, but even still, it's a bit of a dumb situation.

I really liked the villain. His henchwoman was... eh, but the moment I realized that the guy was Dr. Faustus, I was pretty pleased. Good on Marvel to toss a bone with using an actual Captain America villain. Good use of hypnosis, and the intrigue and everything leading up to his reveal as the villain was well done.

Speaking of which, they managed to ramp up tension pretty well throughout the show. I mean, we know that Peggy, Stark, and Jarvis will turn up fine in the end, but they were cutting out agents left and right. They weren't afraid to kill other characters off, and that helped add some good tension throughout.

Stan Lee's cameo was ok. Nothing special.

One other little thing I thought interesting was how spy thrillers are accompanied by a main theme in an uneven meter. I blame Mission: Impossible for this, with its theme being in 5, but the credits theme for Agent Carter is in 7/8 and I just find it funny that that's a thematic similarity for spy thrillers.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/30/18 10:00:40 PM
#21:


Anyway, I've stewed it over. Incredible Hulk wasn't a good movie, but it wasn't a disaster. Iron Man 2 was bad. Bad writing, bad pacing. It was actively bad, whereas Hulk was just dull.

Movies
Iron Man
Captain America: The First Avenger
The Incredible Hulk (2008)
Iron Man 2
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GTM
05/30/18 11:37:11 PM
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##bump
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CoolCly
05/31/18 12:54:12 AM
#23:


I LOVE Justin Hammer

he's just such a wannabe Tony Stark. he wants to beat Tony Stark, he wants to be Tony Stark's best friend, he wants to BE Tony Stark. Which he obviously isn't. The pathetic desperation oozes out of him in every scene he's in. The movie doesn't try to make him anything but that

It's the best thing about the movie by far
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JonThePenguin
05/31/18 3:52:09 AM
#24:


Jakyl25 posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...

Nick Fury shows up and says... Tony turned him down?

So does this movie take place before the post-credits scene of Hulk then? Tony said he was looking for


This particular bit of chronology is a mess that needed some of the most heavy handed retconning Ive ever seen

I think the official line ended up being that Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk, and Thor all took place within the same week in-universe.

Do you have access to the One-Shots as well? Theyre short but have their moments.
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Grand Kirby
05/31/18 6:13:28 AM
#25:


Whiplash is a little disappointing though...


This is the period in the MCU where all the villains kind of suck.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/31/18 8:32:12 AM
#26:


All one-shots are available, courtesy of @digiiiiiiiii
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HanOfTheNekos
05/31/18 8:32:30 AM
#27:


Grand Kirby posted...
Whiplash is a little disappointing though...


This is the period in the MCU where all the villains kind of suck.


Red Skull tho
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XIII_rocks
05/31/18 10:57:43 AM
#28:


@Jakyl25 posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...

Nick Fury shows up and says... Tony turned him down?

So does this movie take place before the post-credits scene of Hulk then? Tony said he was looking for


This particular bit of chronology is a mess that needed some of the most heavy handed retconning Ive ever seen


Which was?
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Jakyl25
05/31/18 12:04:04 PM
#29:


Stark turned down the Avengers Initiative after Iron Man 1, but agreed to be a consultant for SHIELD

The World Security Council ordered Nick Fury to recruit Abomination for the Avengers Initiative, and to send someone to talk to Thunderbolt Ross about it

Nick Fury realized that it would be a mistake to recruit Abomination for the Avengers, so he sent Tony Stark in to discuss the issue with Ross. Fury theorized that since Stark is such a dick, Ross would never acquiesce to his request.

So now he can tell the WSC that he made an attempt, to get them off his back about Abomination

Was ANY of that conferred to ANYONE just by watching the movies?
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HanOfTheNekos
05/31/18 2:03:06 PM
#30:


Jakyl25 posted...
Stark turned down the Avengers Initiative after Iron Man 1, but agreed to be a consultant for SHIELD


You mean after Iron Man 2?
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ClyTheCool
05/31/18 2:05:55 PM
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It's pretty clear in the One Shot "The Consultant"
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HanOfTheNekos
05/31/18 2:08:23 PM
#32:


I started Agent Carter: S2 last night.

I was a little "eh" on the first episode but the rest have me hooked.

Only thing that I don't really like so far is that the Chief from NY STILL doesn't treat Peggy like she's capable of being a good agent. There is the pressure from the FBI guy, yeah, but still.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/31/18 2:10:12 PM
#33:


CoolCly posted...
I LOVE Justin Hammer

he's just such a wannabe Tony Stark. he wants to beat Tony Stark, he wants to be Tony Stark's best friend, he wants to BE Tony Stark. Which he obviously isn't. The pathetic desperation oozes out of him in every scene he's in. The movie doesn't try to make him anything but that

It's the best thing about the movie by far


Yeah, but it's TOOOO heavy-handed at some points. It was good in the beginning, even though it was clear that he was being set up to be the bad guy. Would've preferred if he were a red herring though. I must be a fool to think they would set someone up to be a red herring in an Iron Man movie though, right?

Or, if Hammer was more evil, and Iron Man told Whiplash that he found out the truth about the Vanko family, and somehow got him to work with him to take down Hammer.

But, comic villains. Eh.
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HanOfTheNekos
06/01/18 4:40:13 PM
#34:


Will watch more Agent Carter tonight
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HanOfTheNekos
06/01/18 10:33:48 PM
#35:


Man, this show is really good.
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HanOfTheNekos
06/01/18 11:07:35 PM
#36:


I don't even want to stop right now, but I'm getting pulled away to play games.

Who hasn't seen Agent Carter? I highly recommend it. Easily digestible, not too big of a time commitment.
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Grand Kirby
06/01/18 11:33:06 PM
#37:


I only watched the first season.

I missed the first episode of the second season and panicked, only to then suddenly realize I didn't like the show enough to care.
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tcaz2
06/01/18 11:50:22 PM
#38:


Yeah that's more or less what happened with me. I thought the first season was decent but then never watched the second because it just wasn't that interesting to me.

Easily the weakest of the Marvel TV/Netflix shows imo (yes weaker than Iron Fist)
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HanOfTheNekos
06/01/18 11:54:20 PM
#39:


Man, I disagree with that so hard.
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RyoCaliente
06/02/18 6:21:43 AM
#40:


tcaz2 posted...
Yeah that's more or less what happened with me. I thought the first season was decent but then never watched the second because it just wasn't that interesting to me.

Easily the weakest of the Marvel TV/Netflix shows imo (yes weaker than Iron Fist)


This is impossible because Inhumans and Iron Fist exist.

I love AC season 1. Not too big on S2; there are some story elements I wasn't fond of and the tone in general was a bit too comedic for my taste, but it's a solid show.
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HanOfTheNekos
06/02/18 11:47:30 AM
#41:


I'm not sure which season I prefer yet. I'll probably package them together.
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mnkboy907
06/02/18 12:00:47 PM
#42:


If you end up wanting to watch Agents of SHIELD, and I understand not because it's a big investment, it's ideal to start watching after The Avengers and before Captain America: Winter Soldier. The events of WS radically shake up the show's narrative (it fits in between S1 E16 and 17). Many are put off by the show at first, but it picks up SO much after the WS stuff, and then it just keeps getting better. Season 4 is among my favorite seasons of TV ever.
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Corrik
06/02/18 12:34:46 PM
#43:


El oh El don't forget inhumans.
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tcaz2
06/02/18 12:45:38 PM
#44:


RyoCaliente posted...
This is impossible because Inhumans and Iron Fist exist.

Iron Fist is a good show and better than Luke Cage

I did forget about Inhumans though, admittedly. Yeah its definitely much better than that.
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CoolCly
06/02/18 1:57:05 PM
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I really love the first Agent Carter season. I feel like it's just a perfect little mini series

I've only seen half the second season and haven't really felt like finishing it.

**SPOILERS BELOW***

Season 1 had a really cool structure. Peggy worked with the SSR by day on their cases and we saw her skills being neglected due to the inherent bias of the system, and goes on spy adventures by night working for Stark.

Because of the SSR's stance on Stark as a traitor, and Peggy knowing this stance to be flat out wrong, she helps him out by hunting the mysterious group that stole his bad babies, supported by his weird butler. Jarvis was a lot of fun supporting her, and she got into a lot of fun and cool spy situations while looking for Stark's inventions. She had to walk a dangerous line in avoiding detection by the SSR while working both with them and kind of against them. The cripple guy, Sousa, was on to her at various points which made things interesting. There was a terrific side mission where they left the country and hung out with the Howling Commandos. Stark's disappointment in himself for letting Cap die was explored a little, just like with Peggy. I disliked Dooley to begin wtih, but ended up being pretty sad when he died. Thompson was pretty pathetic until the end but even though I disliked him as a person I liked him as a character.

All around, it was just a great show. I enjoyed it the whole way through.

Season 2 though, has been pretty disappointing. I'm about halfway in. There doesn't feel like there's any structure at all other than "aim Carter at whatever the problem is and send Jarvis along I guess????" I don't like the black guy very much, even now that he's a ghost. Jarvis's wife is weird. Jarvis himself feels very tacked on to have just because we liked him last season. Sousa has a pointless fiancee that was introduced out of nowhere for no reason even though Carter has already said in an overture that she marries him. Which also makes her romance with the black guy pointless. Every romantic scene with the nurse or the black guy feels like a waste of time because we know it doesn't go anywhere.

Red Foreman working Thompson has been very by the numbers. Like at best he's just an annoying bureaucrat that's getting in the way which... is annoying, but more likely he's just a part of the villain group and is pushing Thompson to do what they want. Which is very transparent. I kinda think Thompson has been acting with a bit more forethought than we are supposed to believe though. Like he sent Carter to LA to so Sousa and Carter would finally work out their obvious feelings together or something. I mean he knows her skills better than anybody, so if he really just sent her away because she's annoying and a woman then god damn we have not gone anywhere since season 1. At least he's obviously going to sniff out Red's villainy and help Carter, but it's probably gonna feel a little hamfisted.

Dottie feels kinda annoying too. She was kinda on the line between being too weird and being just eccentric in the first season but she's way too smug in the opening bust and following interrogation.

The senator and his wife that's gaining superpowers are okay I guess. It's interesting seeing his growing unease with how deep into criminal activity and supervillainy they are getting, even though he was the bad guy to begin with. I'm willing to see more of them I guess but I don't love them

I dunno, everything about this season feels off. If they had never made a second season I would have been disappointed for sure, but seeing it makes me wish they hadn't and had just kept it as a pristine one season mini series.
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HanOfTheNekos
06/02/18 2:01:29 PM
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Cly, are you posting spoilers for something I haven't finished yet?
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CoolCly
06/02/18 2:05:40 PM
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Sorry, I thought from your posts you had already finished from the way you were recommending it, but it sounds like I was wrong. I'll spoiler it out.

But I'm only partway through season 2 anyways, so I don't think I would have posted much about anything you haven't seen yet. You are probably even farther than I am. It was mostly just thoughts about the characters all SUCKING. I'd leave it until you finish to read my post anyways (hopefully you haven't =x)
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HanOfTheNekos
06/02/18 2:29:53 PM
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It's all good. I probably have watched past what you have, but I don't want to risk it.
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RyoCaliente
06/02/18 9:56:13 PM
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tcaz2 posted...
RyoCaliente posted...
This is impossible because Inhumans and Iron Fist exist.

Iron Fist is a good show and better than Luke Cage

I did forget about Inhumans though, admittedly. Yeah its definitely much better than that.


I like Iron Fist more than most, but wew, worst companion and worst hero by far
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Corrik
06/02/18 10:01:13 PM
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DD > JJ > LC 1st Half > DD 2 >>> JJ 2 >>> LC 2nd Half > Defenders >>>>>> IF
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