Current Events > I've been reading a lot of stuff on r/TheRedPill and r/Seduction lately

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AreteWastrel
05/23/18 10:29:29 PM
#1:


I don't really know if I really agree with their whole sadistic view of women, but there's definitely some good stuff to be learned from there, especially all the stuff about self improvement. Maybe it's more of me not wanting to believe that whole stuff about how all women are like that, but the more I think about girls that I know (currently in College), the more I could see that type of stuff being somewhat true for the most part.

Anyone from CE visit those places? I don't really use Reddit much, but those are some interesting subreddit communities.
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DavidWong
05/23/18 10:32:06 PM
#2:


Women want men who are interesting and offer them something, a stimulating relationship.

You're a nice guy? Got a job? Decent looking? Great, youre one of the 14 other guys who have those qualities trying to talk to the pretty girl.

What do you offer? Can you play the guitar? Do you have ambitions of being a CEO? Do you travel the world and want to share that with someone?

Put it this way. Would you buy the cereal that is a plain white box with the word "Cereal" in black text on it, and the tagline "This is nourishing and provides the energy you need", or the one that is colourful, has a snappy name and advertises itself as "healthy" or "delicious"?
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Awesome
05/23/18 10:35:42 PM
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Problem is that society is set up in the way that men are supposed to impress women but its the other way around in reality. And men care too much about who these empty brain women are and arent focusing on the women that are worthwhile and actually are interested and good people.
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AreteWastrel
05/23/18 10:44:30 PM
#4:


I agree with all of that and I've always believed the whole reality about girls having a ton of options at all times, especially pretty girls. But I'm still a little conflicted after reading so much of that stuff in such a short amount of time, especially the stuff about how calculated you have to be with everything you say and how you have to be so aloof with showing emotion. It kind of is starting to make me jaded with actually wanting to look for "love" and it also is making me realize how much of a bitch I must have looked like to a lot of girls that I know that I was interested in/still interested in lol that I must have definitely missed out on if most of those rules of attraction are true.

I don't even really know what I'm trying to say, haha
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chill02
05/23/18 10:46:46 PM
#5:


https://www.reddit.com/r/selfimprovement/

go there instead
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prince_leo
05/23/18 10:48:12 PM
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that's how they get you. start off telling you to focus on yourself, to eat better, to go to the gym, etc.
like you said, it's all about self-improvement
then they drop in some sexist bullshit

it's not right. yeah there are some shitty girls out there, but what they want you to do is to manipulate women and such. don't do that, if you focus on making yourself better you'll find an attractive woman you don't need to manipulate
not all hot women are like that
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AreteWastrel
05/23/18 10:57:52 PM
#7:


chill02 posted...
https://www.reddit.com/r/selfimprovement/

go there instead

I already see a bunch of interesting reads in the top posts, thanks

That's mainly what I do when I go to a new subreddit, I just go to Sort -> Top of All Time
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chill02
05/23/18 11:04:25 PM
#8:


but yeah, stop reading incel stuff, it's not gonna do you any good
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TheCyborgNinja
05/23/18 11:08:36 PM
#9:


DavidWong posted...
Women want men who are interesting and offer them something, a stimulating relationship.

You're a nice guy? Got a job? Decent looking? Great, youre one of the 14 other guys who have those qualities trying to talk to the pretty girl.

What do you offer? Can you play the guitar? Do you have ambitions of being a CEO? Do you travel the world and want to share that with someone?

Put it this way. Would you buy the cereal that is a plain white box with the word "Cereal" in black text on it, and the tagline "This is nourishing and provides the energy you need", or the one that is colourful, has a snappy name and advertises itself as "healthy" or "delicious"?

Boom! Truth bombs away!

I second this message. Getting a relationship isn't about checking off boxes on a list and waiting for someone to agree that you're satisfactory. That's settling, and most people really don't want to do that, and won't if they have other options. It's easy to be more appealing than a guy who just strives to be "good enough" and thinks that entitles him to anything.

A cruel fact is that a lot of people simply build a narrative out of defensive mechanisms to explain why they're single "in spite of being (insert good things here)" so they don't have to admit their limitations to themselves.
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ssj-kenobi
05/23/18 11:13:39 PM
#10:


tbh in the dating world, girls are literally the jobs/employers

dudes are the jobseeker. and y'all know how the job market can be especially when for every job you could be having 100 applicants lmao.

there is a reason why all of a sudden other girls start being into you more when it's known you have a gf. but then when you are single, you are really and heavily single af XD. it's always the same cycle for me, when I'm single no one has the slightest interest in me whatsoever and I have to try harder. then all of a sudden when I'm either actively pursuing a girl or am currently with one then other girls start contacting and flirting with me and shit. it's pretty annoying lol.
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DavidWong
05/24/18 2:12:21 AM
#11:


ssj-kenobi posted...
tbh in the dating world, girls are literally the jobs/employers

dudes are the jobseeker. and y'all know how the job market can be especially when for every job you could be having 100 applicants lmao.

there is a reason why all of a sudden other girls start being into you more when it's known you have a gf. but then when you are single, you are really and heavily single af XD. it's always the same cycle for me, when I'm single no one has the slightest interest in me whatsoever and I have to try harder. then all of a sudden when I'm either actively pursuing a girl or am currently with one then other girls start contacting and flirting with me and shit. it's pretty annoying lol.


Nailed it
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UnfairRepresent
05/24/18 2:23:39 AM
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CE has such a weird view of women

"Women are just jobs and you're an applicant!"

Kinda glad most of you will never have a daughter
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135
05/24/18 2:25:17 AM
#13:


DavidWong posted...
Women want men who are interesting and offer them something, a stimulating relationship.

You're a nice guy? Got a job? Decent looking? Great, youre one of the 14 other guys who have those qualities trying to talk to the pretty girl.

What do you offer? Can you play the guitar? Do you have ambitions of being a CEO? Do you travel the world and want to share that with someone?

Put it this way. Would you buy the cereal that is a plain white box with the word "Cereal" in black text on it, and the tagline "This is nourishing and provides the energy you need", or the one that is colourful, has a snappy name and advertises itself as "healthy" or "delicious"?


lmfao this is all inaccurate

the only thing that matter is looks. (presuming of course you aren't leveraging wealth/status)

i've seen my good looking friends with shitty jobs, shy, etc have girls throw themselves at them because of their looks. Shit, one guy doesn't even go out to bars/clubs, he's extremely shy and he gets girls thanks to tinder.

you don't have to put women on a pedestal or impress them because none of that will matter if the girl aint attracted to you
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Soviet_Poland
05/24/18 2:28:19 AM
#14:


Self improvement is not exclusive to those communities and when you peel back the veneer, what's left is this insidiously toxic culture. I don't blame them, because it's a reaction to their experiences, but when the mind is confronted with admitting its own shortcomings it tends to warp the narrative a bit.

The seduction and pick up artist communities are too algorithmic when it comes to human behavior. It's so very obvious as a result of their past failures/rejections. It becomes an intellectualization, of putting together the right chain of actions and statements for the goal of either sex or a relationship, like a recipe. It's so far removed from what it means to have a genuine connection with another person that the few kernels of truth don't make the overarching message any more palatable.

TheRedPill is more a community of projection. Their unsuccess has nothing to do with them, it's the inherently bad nature of half the population. This is the more maladaptive of the two communities. I think with seduction, there is at least this implicit acceptance of "I need to change things for more romantic success." But TheRedPill will rationalize it away by blaming the external world. It's women. It's society. It's other men. They don't see the common denominator.

So yeah, self improvement is a good thing, but don't let empty platitudes lure you into communities that really aren't that healthy. You can find that without the baggage.
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chill02
05/24/18 2:31:51 AM
#15:


DavidWong posted...
ssj-kenobi posted...
tbh in the dating world, girls are literally the jobs/employers

dudes are the jobseeker. and y'all know how the job market can be especially when for every job you could be having 100 applicants lmao.

there is a reason why all of a sudden other girls start being into you more when it's known you have a gf. but then when you are single, you are really and heavily single af XD. it's always the same cycle for me, when I'm single no one has the slightest interest in me whatsoever and I have to try harder. then all of a sudden when I'm either actively pursuing a girl or am currently with one then other girls start contacting and flirting with me and shit. it's pretty annoying lol.


Nailed it

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ArchiePeck
05/24/18 2:31:54 AM
#16:


Staggeringly, females are varied individual people just like males, and there is no big secret agenda or gameplan they are conspiring to create.

Go out, socialise and meet new people regularly via hobbies or friends. There's no big puzzle to solve.
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135
05/24/18 2:32:10 AM
#17:


red pill and seduction is quite simple

If you live in the western world, it's LMS based(looks, money, status). If you don't meet her LMS threshold, it's game over. A lot of PUA idiots will not acknowledge this unfortunately.

what red pill really means is, you are acknowledging the TRUTH(even though it's difficult for people to accept). It's really not complicated.

the bottom line is this, if the woman isn't attracted to the guy, no amount of "confidence" will matter. You can increase your LMS by getting a good job, looksmaxing, etc. that's where the red pill is self help.
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135
05/24/18 2:33:14 AM
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ArchiePeck posted...
Staggeringly, females are varied individual people just like males, and there is no big secret agenda or gameplan they are conspiring to create.

Go out, socialise and meet new people regularly via hobbies or friends. There's no big puzzle to solve.


lol it's not this simple especially if the guy isn't good looking.

females are not varied. Most are attracted to looks, money, and status(at least in the western world dating)
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NOM
05/24/18 2:33:54 AM
#19:


135 posted...
DavidWong posted...
Women want men who are interesting and offer them something, a stimulating relationship.

You're a nice guy? Got a job? Decent looking? Great, youre one of the 14 other guys who have those qualities trying to talk to the pretty girl.

What do you offer? Can you play the guitar? Do you have ambitions of being a CEO? Do you travel the world and want to share that with someone?

Put it this way. Would you buy the cereal that is a plain white box with the word "Cereal" in black text on it, and the tagline "This is nourishing and provides the energy you need", or the one that is colourful, has a snappy name and advertises itself as "healthy" or "delicious"?


lmfao this is all inaccurate

the only thing that matter is looks. (presuming of course you aren't leveraging wealth/status)

i've seen my good looking friends with shitty jobs, shy, etc have girls throw themselves at them because of their looks. Shit, one guy doesn't even go out to bars/clubs, he's extremely shy and he gets girls thanks to tinder.

you don't have to put women on a pedestal or impress them because none of that will matter if the girl aint attracted to you
This tbh
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chill02
05/24/18 2:34:29 AM
#20:


135 posted...
red pill and seduction is quite simple

If you live in the western world, it's LMS based(looks, money, status). If you don't meet her LMS threshold, it's game over. A lot of PUA idiots will not acknowledge this unfortunately.

what red pill really means is, you are acknowledging the TRUTH(even though it's difficult for people to accept). It's really not complicated.

the bottom line is this, if the woman isn't attracted to the guy, no amount of "confidence" will matter. You can increase your LMS by getting a good job, looksmaxing, etc. that's where the red pill is self help.


kindly shut the fuck up and let adults do the talking
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UnfairRepresent
05/24/18 2:36:39 AM
#21:


135 posted...
red pill and seduction is quite simple

If you live in the western world, it's LMS based(looks, money, status). If you don't meet her LMS threshold, it's game over. A lot of PUA idiots will not acknowledge this unfortunately.

what red pill really means is, you are acknowledging the TRUTH(even though it's difficult for people to accept). It's really not complicated.

the bottom line is this, if the woman isn't attracted to the guy, no amount of "confidence" will matter. You can increase your LMS by getting a good job, looksmaxing, etc. that's where the red pill is self help.

Girls date ugly guys all the time dude
Have you ever been to college?
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ArchiePeck
05/24/18 2:37:29 AM
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135 posted...
ArchiePeck posted...
Staggeringly, females are varied individual people just like males, and there is no big secret agenda or gameplan they are conspiring to create.

Go out, socialise and meet new people regularly via hobbies or friends. There's no big puzzle to solve.


lol it's not this simple especially if the guy isn't good looking.

females are not varied. Most are attracted to looks, money, and status(at least in the western world dating)


I guess like my entire generation 15 years ago at college were just all super rich hunks that we all managed had normal sex lives and eventually found the right girl and got married. Every one of us was Brad Pitt LOL
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135
05/24/18 2:38:42 AM
#23:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Girls date ugly guys all the time dude


status(social circle) or wealth is probably leveraged. That or they are looksmatched (ugly girl dates ugly guy, or fat guy dates equally fat girl). I rarely see a hot girl with an ugly dude unless wealth/status was leveraged or they met overseas(expat)

UnfairRepresent posted...
Have you ever been to college?


uh yes, the frat guys have situational status, so do the student athletes. Most hot girls are hypergamous, either a good looking guy or a high status guy(top house frat guy or student athlete)
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marthsheretoo
05/24/18 2:38:52 AM
#24:


DavidWong posted...
Put it this way. Would you buy the cereal that is a plain white box with the word "Cereal" in black text on it, and the tagline "This is nourishing and provides the energy you need", or the one that is colourful, has a snappy name and advertises itself as "healthy" or "delicious"?


You're on point, but I absolutely would go for the first one because it would be something different. The novelty would intrigue me enough to get me to try a box where the endless variants of colorful packaging wouldn't stand out to me at all.
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135
05/24/18 2:40:26 AM
#25:


ArchiePeck posted...
135 posted...
ArchiePeck posted...
Staggeringly, females are varied individual people just like males, and there is no big secret agenda or gameplan they are conspiring to create.

Go out, socialise and meet new people regularly via hobbies or friends. There's no big puzzle to solve.


lol it's not this simple especially if the guy isn't good looking.

females are not varied. Most are attracted to looks, money, and status(at least in the western world dating)


I guess like my entire generation 15 years ago at college were just all super rich hunks that we all managed had normal sex lives and eventually found the right girl and got married. Every one of us was Brad Pitt LOL


social circle=situational status is being leveraged. Your example is absolute shit. Anything that is leveraged through LMS is not game.

what i'm talking about is OPEN MARKET DATING (app/online and cold approach pickup). Open market dating in the west is LMS based. If you aren't good looking, good luck getting a hot girl because hot girls are generally hypergamous due to plenty of suitors.
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KobeSystem
05/24/18 2:40:52 AM
#26:


No girls were interested in me when I didn't take care of myself or my appearance at all

But then I groomed myself, got a haircut and the change was fucking nuts

And you're improved appearance gives confidence

No one looked twice at me when I had long hair and a ridiculous beard. Now the girl at the taco place is asking me where I work and my manager is telling me about some girl talking about how nice I look with my face all cleaned up.

All I can say is at least care about how you present yourself. Makes a world of difference and helps at least get your foot in the door
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135
05/24/18 2:42:49 AM
#27:


KobeSystem posted...
No girls were interested in me when I didn't take care of myself or my appearance at all

But then I groomed myself, got a haircut and the change was fucking nuts

And you're improved appearance gives confidence

No one looked twice at me when I had long hair and a ridiculous beard. Now the girl at the taco place is asking me where I work and my manager is telling me about some girl talking about how nice I look with my face all cleaned up.

All I can say is at least care about how you present yourself. Makes a world of difference and helps at least get your foot in the door


well yeah, looks are generally what matters the most. If the woman isn't attracted to the guy physically, but likes his personality=friend zone

you grooming yourself and getting a proper haircut probably gives you +1 or +2 points in your looks. You probably already had a good foundation in looks for them to compliment you
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bob742omb
05/24/18 2:43:54 AM
#28:


135 posted...
DavidWong posted...
Women want men who are interesting and offer them something, a stimulating relationship.

You're a nice guy? Got a job? Decent looking? Great, youre one of the 14 other guys who have those qualities trying to talk to the pretty girl.

What do you offer? Can you play the guitar? Do you have ambitions of being a CEO? Do you travel the world and want to share that with someone?

Put it this way. Would you buy the cereal that is a plain white box with the word "Cereal" in black text on it, and the tagline "This is nourishing and provides the energy you need", or the one that is colourful, has a snappy name and advertises itself as "healthy" or "delicious"?


lmfao this is all inaccurate

the only thing that matter is looks. (presuming of course you aren't leveraging wealth/status)

i've seen my good looking friends with shitty jobs, shy, etc have girls throw themselves at them because of their looks. Shit, one guy doesn't even go out to bars/clubs, he's extremely shy and he gets girls thanks to tinder.

you don't have to put women on a pedestal or impress them because none of that will matter if the girl aint attracted to you

i'd say you're both right.

dating sites and dating apps really do focus on looks, on those sites you can be shallow and still get laid, and this applies to both men and women. or you could go out clubbing too. if you're attractive, yeah, you'll easily get laid through those methods.

but i think if you want to keep someone in the long term, you have to be interesting, like davidwong said. or at the very least, it'll help.

people are different though and it's hard to draw absolutes when it comes to these things.
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135
05/24/18 2:46:34 AM
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bob742omb posted...

i'd say you're both right.

dating sites and dating apps really do focus on looks, on those sites you can be shallow and still get laid, and this applies to both men and women. or you could go out clubbing too. if you're attractive, yeah, you'll easily get laid through those methods.


well yeah, this is called open market dating. Otherwise, anything that is leveraged through wealth/status such as social circle is different.

but i think if you want to keep someone in the long term, you have to be interesting, like davidwong said. or at the very least, it'll help.

people are different though and it's hard to draw absolutes when it comes to these things.


long term only apply if the prerequisite are already met (the guy is good looking or has enough wealth/status to make up for it). If the prerequisite aren't met, the guy will just be put on the friend zone.
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ArchiePeck
05/24/18 2:49:12 AM
#30:


I'm curious, 135, what sort of sex life has this dismissive "women only think like this" attitude gotten you, while the rest of us have gotten on with our lives treating women as individual humans?
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135
05/24/18 2:52:48 AM
#31:


ArchiePeck posted...
I'm curious, 135, what sort of sex life


this is 100% irrelevant. Every guy gets preselected by women at different rates based off of their looks, money, status, and location. I can tell you aren't red pilled for you to even ask this stupid question. And yes, WOMEN are the CHOOSERS.

ArchiePeck posted...
has this dismissive "women only think like this" attitude gotten you, while the rest of us have gotten on with our lives treating women as individual humans?


uh yes, especially in the western world where women are by default hypergamous. And no, if you are implying that i'm "misogynistic" that is far from the truth. Women just want to date the hot guys as much as men want to date the hot girls. Is that so difficult to understand?
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ArchiePeck
05/24/18 2:54:17 AM
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Okay LOL
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Soviet_Poland
05/24/18 2:55:48 AM
#33:


135 posted...
ArchiePeck posted...
I'm curious, 135, what sort of sex life


this is 100% irrelevant. Every guy gets preselected by women at different rates based off of their looks, money, status, and location. I can tell you aren't red pilled for you to even ask this stupid question. And yes, WOMEN are the CHOOSERS.

ArchiePeck posted...
has this dismissive "women only think like this" attitude gotten you, while the rest of us have gotten on with our lives treating women as individual humans?


uh yes, especially in the western world where women are by default hypergamous. And no, if you are implying that i'm "misogynistic" that is far from the truth. Women just want to date the hot guys as much as men want to date the hot girls. Is that so difficult to understand?


You must be a blast at parties.
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135
05/24/18 2:57:49 AM
#34:


what the fuck does my red pilled posts have anything to do with me being a "blast" at parties? You can still be red pilled and be confident, outgoing, and fun to be around.
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ArchiePeck
05/24/18 3:00:53 AM
#35:


135 posted...
what the fuck does my red pilled posts have anything to do with me being a "blast" at parties? You can still be red pilled and be confident, outgoing, and fun to be around.


Are you a blast at parties? In fact, how often do you get invited to them? If the answer is "not often" have you considered why and applied this same answer to your lack of success with women?
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135
05/24/18 3:23:44 AM
#36:


ArchiePeck posted...

Are you a blast at parties?


I generally get along with everyone I meet. That or i'm at least cordial with everyone i meet.

ArchiePeck posted...
In fact, how often do you get invited to them?


i'm 30 years old with actual responsibilities. I can give a fuck less if i get invited to them. Stop it with these idiotic condescending questions. You sound like a college kid pulling the "hurr urr u aint kewl if u don't get invited to parties" LOL

ArchiePeck posted...
If the answer is "not often" have you considered why and applied this same answer to your lack of success with women?


lmfao "success" with women is irrelevant since every guy gets preselected at different rates depending on how high or low your Looks, money, status is.

Success with women is not quantifiable measurement of anything. Only middle school idiots would make such assertion. Seriously, you sound like you're in fucking middle school LOLOLOL
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ArchiePeck
05/24/18 3:27:13 AM
#37:


Stop it with these idiotic condescending questions. You sound like a college kid pulling the "hurr urr u aint kewl if u don't get invited to parties" LOL


I'm just trying to get you to consider personal failings you may have that are the actual reason for you not being satisfied with certain areas of your life. If you seek external excuses to blame to make yourself feel better you'll never actually solve the problem.

And that's the REAL red pill LOL
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135
05/24/18 3:31:06 AM
#38:


ArchiePeck posted...

I'm just trying to get you to consider personal failings you may have that are the actual reason for you not being satisfied with certain areas of your life. If you seek external excuses to blame to make yourself feel better you'll never actually solve the problem.


lmfao wtf is this mental masturbation drivel? You sound like one of them PUA dorks LOL @ self blame. Seriously bro, you sound like a massive mangina with this drivel you posted.

ArchiePeck posted...
And that's the REAL red pill LOL


lmfao, oh man you thinking you know what "red pill" is, is an insult to people who are actually red pilled.

plz go
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pinky0926
05/24/18 3:33:18 AM
#39:


You don't need a misogynistic support group that encourages manipulation and sometimes downright rapey "tactics" to learn that having some self respect and looking after yourself is a useful way to become an attractive dating prospect.

Treating your relationships as adversarial rather than collaborative might get you laid, sure, but there are less toxic ways to do that.
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135
05/24/18 3:35:02 AM
#40:


pinky0926 posted...
You don't need a misogynistic support group that encourages manipulation and sometimes downright rapey "tactics" to learn that having some self respect and looking after yourself is a useful way to become an attractive dating prospect.


that's a common misconception of red pill, that we are all misogynistic.

Red pill is really just acknowledging the harsh truth on how things work. In the context of picking up women, it comes down to your looks, money, and status(and location). There's nothing misogynistic about that. Acknowledging that attractive women are genereally hypergamous and want the most attractive guy is not misogyny, the same way i'm acknowledging that most good looking men generally want to date the hot girl.
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UnholyMudcrab
05/24/18 3:39:29 AM
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pinky0926
05/24/18 4:42:33 AM
#42:


135 posted...
pinky0926 posted...
You don't need a misogynistic support group that encourages manipulation and sometimes downright rapey "tactics" to learn that having some self respect and looking after yourself is a useful way to become an attractive dating prospect.


that's a common misconception of red pill, that we are all misogynistic.

Red pill is really just acknowledging the harsh truth on how things work. In the context of picking up women, it comes down to your looks, money, and status(and location). There's nothing misogynistic about that. Acknowledging that attractive women are genereally hypergamous and want the most attractive guy is not misogyny, the same way i'm acknowledging that most good looking men generally want to date the hot girl.


*rolls eyes very dramatically*

1) I did not say every reader of the red pill hates women, but I can bet you right now that I could find at least 10 very misogynistic posts right there on the front page of TRP in like 2 minutes without even trying. You have a community of people who have been historically rejected or hurt by women and a guidebook of ways to manipulate women to get what you want from them (usually sex), the misogyny is abound everywhere on there.

2) It's circular reasoning to argue that the red pill is true because it's true.

3) Admitting that attractive people like attractive people is not misogyny, but I don't remember making an argument to say otherwise
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05/24/18 4:58:06 AM
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pinky0926 posted...


*rolls eyes very dramatically*

1) I did not say every reader of the red pill hates women, but I can bet you right now that I could find at least 10 very misogynistic posts right there on the front page of TRP in like 2 minutes without even trying. You have a community of people who have been historically rejected or hurt by women and a guidebook of ways to manipulate women to get what you want from them (usually sex), the misogyny is abound everywhere on there.


Weird, although i occasionally see misogynistic posts, it's no different than going to any other community. Are you sure you don't have "red pill" confused with the "incel" or "MGTOW" communities because those communities are notorious for misogyny.

There are plenty of guys who succeed with women who are red pilled as hell. I don't get where you are assocating "Red pill" to guys who struggle with women. You have red pill confused with the INCEL community.

yes, there are bad eggs in every community. For you to make ignorant generalizations is laughable.
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05/24/18 5:00:26 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Why are you all still feeding this guy

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Kazi1212
05/24/18 5:18:31 AM
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This 135 guy makes a lot of sense, he shall be our CE messiah!
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Banana_Cyanide
05/24/18 5:36:44 AM
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135 posted...
women are genereally hypergamous and want the most attractive guy is not misogyny, the same way i'm acknowledging that most good looking men generally want to date the hot girl.

Maybe you need to look up what hypergamy actually means.
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05/24/18 5:45:29 AM
#47:


Delirious_Beard posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Why are you all still feeding this guy


true
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Kazi1212
05/24/18 5:48:57 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
Delirious_Beard posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Why are you all still feeding this guy


true


I think he legit believes what hes saying tbh, but its not like he said anything totally unreasonable, not that I see at least. Most normally socially well adjusted people understand looks are important and to take care of yourself
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pinky0926
05/24/18 5:57:37 AM
#49:


Kazi1212 posted...
pinky0926 posted...
Delirious_Beard posted...
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Why are you all still feeding this guy


true


I think he legit believes what hes saying tbh, but its not like he said anything totally unreasonable, not that I see at least. Most normally socially well adjusted people understand looks are important and to take care of yourself


If only the red pill stuck to "looks and being financially solvent and having self respect are important, work on those". I can agree with that bit. Instead it extends to top tips on how to trick women into sleeping with you by breaking down their self esteem, treating them like actual objects (hamsters, plates, etc) and generally being a fucking shit of a person, all for the purpose of sticking your dick in a hole without feeling emotionally compromised.

Some of the stuff that gets passed off as gospel advice there is borderline psychopath behaviour.

This always happens in these discussions, btw. Red piller comes in and goes "nah man you just don't understand, the red pill is just about being a better person and seeing the world how it is, it's not about hating women." Meanwhile on TRP 500 users having an animated discussion about how to mess with the emotions of a hamster and how to keep 14 plates spinning at the same time while being dishonest to all of them.
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05/24/18 6:10:06 AM
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pinky0926 posted...


If only the red pill stuck to "looks and being financially solvent and having self respect are important, work on those". I can agree with that bit. Instead it extends to top tips on how to trick women into sleeping with you by breaking down their self esteem, treating them like actual objects (hamsters, plates, etc) and generally being a fucking shit of a person, all for the purpose of sticking your dick in a hole without feeling emotionally compromised.

Some of the stuff that gets passed off as gospel advice there is borderline psychopath behaviour.

This always happens in these discussions, btw. Red piller comes in and goes "nah man you just don't understand, the red pill is just about being a better person and seeing the world how it is, it's not about hating women." Meanwhile on TRP 500 users having an animated discussion about how to mess with the emotions of a hamster and how to keep 14 plates spinning at the same time while being dishonest to all of them.


i beg your pardon? none of what you said is remotely close to the red pill in the context of seduction. NONE

you have red pill confused with PUA
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