Board 8 > Arria plays/reads Umineko blind, Kira cackles at her SPOILERS ARE OKAY #3

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Eerieka
09/16/18 1:43:49 AM
#251:


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Eerieka
09/16/18 11:33:06 PM
#252:


Beatrices sprite changed from open eyes to squinted eyes
A: I like how she was able to say youre a fucking moron just like that

I missed something while I was typing and when I looked at the screen all I saw was something about strawberry shortcake.
K: What was that about strawberries?
A: Hes saying that you save the strawberry for last because you want to savor it. In that same idea, Beatrice wants to kill the persons she hates most for last.
K: Ah, I see
Battler: Beatrice says she kills people at random!
A: (pathetically) Hes not smart
Battler: I dont understand what Beatrice wants by killing people
A: Hes not smart when Bernkastel isnt controlling him!
Battler: Wait she saves me for last every time.
A: *throws her hands up* There ya go! Thank you!

Battler says X=Y=0 and its all in English
A: So weird to hear him speak English. Or math.

More red text about Beatrices motivations
A: Its almost like shes trying to break him to a point.
A: The whole thing is witches get bored. When Lambda got bored, she created Bernkastel. I wonder if Beatrices thing is she wants to break Battler until he becomes a witch and then she has someone to play with.
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Eerieka
09/17/18 3:01:35 PM
#253:


A: I really think Beatrice is just looking for a mate. I can imagine Battler like Waa! Beatrice put my head in the toilet again! and then Virgilia She likes you, numb nuts! Play with her on the playground next time! But I dont wanna! Shes mean! Oh, why do I even run this orphanage? Should just leave these kids on the street.
(I think Arria has forgotten the Fukuin House exists, so that comment about an orphanage was just a joke. Nevertheless, I wont remind her of it.)
A: And now Beatrice is doing the silent treatment. You wont play with me? Well I wont talk to you!
A moment later Battler says something about how Beatrice wants something from me and hes got some seductive eyes.
A: Those are bedroom eyes right there. And Beatrice has, well lay down and think of England eyes.
A: Also the game just took my crazy cockamamie idea and threw me a bone. I wasnt being serious when I said Beatrice wants Battlers attention!

She goes on a pretty long spiel in which she ships Battler and Beatrice. Some of the things she says include: I imagine at the end the walls of the metaworld will fall down and Beatrice will be replaced by yet another Beatrice who says I love you! And I think I just imagined their wedding. I dont know if I like it or I want to throw up. She also for some reason gets the mental image of that Michelangelo picture of Adam and God but with Beatrice as God and Battler as Adam.

Back to the family, Hideyoshi says they need to keep a record so we know who said this or who didnt say that.
A: I imagine Kumasawa in a secretary outfit coming out with a typewriter. Someone be like where did she get that?
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Eerieka
09/18/18 7:12:47 PM
#254:


A: I wish I could draw. I would draw so many comics of Arria bursting into the Ushiromiya house and punching the grandfather clock. Shed say I dont give a fuck what youre talking about, I just had to do that. Then shed fuck off. Then everyone else being like who the fuck was that?

Eva berates Rosa for wanting to get some sleep because shes catching a cold.
A: They are acting like the worlds worst wolf pack. Like ooh, weakness! Kill it!

Shannon and Kanon appear on screen at the same time, but of course this Battler isnt the detective so this is allowed. Or hes seeing one and knows its two.

Rosa: Were you on duty tonight?
A: (As Shannon): Nope, we couldnt sleep!
A: Alternatively, I could imagine Genji coming in and being like Ive had enough. I need sleep. You two work tonight.
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Eerieka
09/19/18 4:23:10 PM
#255:


Hideyoshi talks about how he got rich by stealing from the American army
A: *laughs* Oh I know some people who would hate this guy Not me, though! I love you, Hideyoshi
He then goes on about how Americans eat meat and were all about shooting and death by hanging
A: This is such a great paragraph. I could spend all day analyzing this paragraph. No really, what the fuck is happening? First off, Americandy is the weirdest name Ive ever heard for meat. Secondly, meat? Thats the secret?

Battler orders Shannon and Kanon to sit down with them because hes sick of adults
A: I imagine at this point, those two are looking at each other and asking Did Genji spike their drinks with brandy? Are we sure theyre sober?

Then later Genji actually does pop up, along with Gohda to deliver some news, but the scene changes to Krauss and Natsuhi instead.

A: I like how Krauss says he can overcome any obstacle, but I imagine Natsuhi wants to say No you cant dumbass. Its your fault were in this position. The only reason you havent been caught is because you were smart enough to marry me.

A: Also, are they really so broke theyre more than 2.5 billion in debt? Whats stopping them from just taking the money and running? If theyre that bad off, Natsuhi shouldnt be making any more deals. She should be taking out life insurance on Krauss. And no, Im not suggesting that shes going to kill him!
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Eerieka
09/20/18 6:41:27 PM
#256:


Krauss suggests divorcing Natsuhi so she doesnt suffer in his debt.
Arria is impressed. Thats a surprising show of affection and intelligence! And I never thought I would call a divorce affectionate!

Natsuhi said No! (Iya desu!) and for some reason Arria thought that was cute.
A: Aww, did she just say desu?
K: Yes? its like, the most common Japanese word, so shes bound to say it eventually.
A: I just dont think Ive heard it so clearly.
K: Its funny because there are two characters introduced in this chapter. They are voiced by the same voice actresses as Shinku and Suiseiseki. If you remember, Shinku loved Detective Kun-Kun and she would sometimes play detective. Suiseiseki of course had a desu spam. In Umineko, its the opposite. The character who loves detectives is voiced by Suiseiseki and the character with a desu spam is voiced by Shinku.

Genji appears
A: I want to make a comment here, and its not a nice one. If Natsuhi divorces Krauss, shes free to marry Genji! I would read that fanfic! Ill just be over here being ashamed of myself

The clock rings midnight and even Natsuhi is a bit freaked out by it
A: Going by my Arria appearing out of nowhere and punching every clock headcanon I think Natsuhi would be okay with her doing that here!
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Eerieka
09/21/18 9:04:54 PM
#257:


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Eerieka
09/22/18 2:38:14 PM
#258:


Another call from the Man from 19 Years Ago
A: Hang up the phone? Call the police? Answer with So-and-sos sperm bank. You squeeze it, we freeze it?

A: Apparently I forgot how basic biology works for a second. For a minute I thought she could have a bastard she didnt know about! Oh yeah, thats not how it works with women. Where did I get that? No, were not seahorses, thats not how it works!
A: Also, I will laugh my ass off if this is just Jessica yanking her chain.

He says her name and does the whole favorite season spiel
K: You had the theory earlier that he was trying to call someone else. This is the proof hes calling Natsuhi specifically.
A: Yeah, I caught that.

He says his hatred for Natsuhi is thick, syrupy, and dribbling
A: Well thats something to immediately exit my brain. He went full Aunt Jemima here.

A: Are they going to tell us what she picked up?
K: Did they not say? Its supposed to either be a card with the word fall on it, or a postcard of an autumn day. I dont recall exactly, but I thought the version I played made it more clear.
A: Huh. No, all they said here was that it was a playing card
(They do explain it in a few more sentences.)
A: Oh, there we go!
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Eerieka
09/23/18 2:29:46 PM
#259:


Day 32 (9/21/18)

We start with a mysterious knock on the door. They open it and find one of the letters with Kinzos seal.
A: They act so surprised there was a knock. Then they ran their mouths for ten minutes before answering. The person knocking probably realized there was no candy at this house! They left before you fuckers decided to open the door.
A: I dont know why I decided to go full Halloween there. If I do that again, hit me with a book and say The power of Maria compels you!

Eva thinks Krauss and Natsuhi sent the letter
A: I hope the letter is just in Kinzos handwriting Good job! Youre the successor! Just to watch Eva eat crow. I dont think shes wrong necessarily.

The ring falls out of the envelope
A: Because Genji is loyal to the head of the family, not necessarily Natsuhi.

Eva says she always dreamed of wearing the Heads ring
A: Things not to admit right this minute, Eva
Eva says she knows more about this ring than anyone else, even Father!
K: A little obsessive, arent ya?
A: Insert a Rosen Maiden kiss the ring joke here.
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Popcorn_Fairy
09/23/18 10:57:49 PM
#260:


Eerieka posted...
A: I dont know why I decided to go full Halloween there. If I do that again, hit me with a book and say The power of Maria compels you!


Wouldn't that make her go even more all in on Halloween?
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Eerieka
09/24/18 2:22:02 AM
#261:


Ya know, when I step back and think of it, it makes more sense that way. I've grown so accustomed to Arria's antics with swapping the usual "power of Christ" with the edgier "power of Satan" that I didn't even bat an eye when she said it that way.
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Eerieka
09/24/18 11:28:11 PM
#262:


Beatrices letter calls Battler the new Head.
Eva then calls him the successor.
A: You two are calling him two very different names, and the difference matters!

Krauss and Genji come in and Genji notices the ring. Hideyoshi even acknowledges his good eyesight
A: Methinks Genji noticed the ring because Genji was specifically looking for the ring.

Rosa sneaks away (to get murdered) just as Arrias husband said oh shit, Im dead while playing Dark Souls
K: Pretty accurate to be honest.

Arria thought they were about to walk into the first twilight.
A: And then they found out IT WAS MURDER.
Pleasant music starts to play as Gohda and Nanjo are just standing in the dining room
A: Well that was anticlimactic.

Game: Erika had taken off her shoes and was lounging around as if she owned the place
A: *looks at me*
K: Should I get more comfortable? *leans back on couch*
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Eerieka
09/26/18 2:18:23 AM
#263:


Gohda is kissing ass and Arria calls him out on it
A: God youre pathetic.
The game says he is invigorated by the chance to show his skills and he doesnt get sleepy
A: The cocaine helps. Also the sexy demon girl in the kitchen waiting for him to make her a sandwich

Arrias husband says what the hell is that? in response to something in Dark Souls
A: I love how well his commentary matches up with Umineko
K: *laughs*
Arrias husband: I dont know if its a good thing for Dark Souls to match up to a visual novel

Nanjo went to his room, and the game points out that Erika went to another room
A: Aww, I was hoping shed sleep with Nanjo. Who doesnt want to cuddle a walrus?

Rudolf in flashback: theres something important I want to talk about, as family.
A: Good job foreshadowing it, Krau-kru-ku Rudolf.
K: Rufirdolf
Arrias dog Brutus looks at us. Hes come to associate the word Rufirdolf with him, we think, because well always tell him no Rufirdolf-ing! when he gets his nose near our laptops.
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Eerieka
09/27/18 11:11:18 AM
#264:


Natsuhi talks about how whenever she heard of a drug or incense that could make her achieve pregnancy, she would take it.
K: Makes sense.
A: In-sense?
Oh puns
A: Also, who knew they made sperm into incense?

Beatrice: A baby is made by two people and the will of heaven
A: Biology would disagree with you
K: Eh, I get what shes saying.
A: Also, fuck Aristotle
K: What?
A: Asshole said that women are just men who failed to evolve.
K: Oh okay, because Ive been playing Eiyuu Senki and I literally fucked Aristotle recently
(We spend a moment talking about Eiyuu Senki, by which I mean we looked up sex scenes of the characters)

We return to the game where theres a dialogue box talking about my inability to become pregnant while Natsuhi and Beatrice are on screen.
A: For a second, I thought Beatrice was talking there! Like, whoa I didnt know you were trying!
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Eerieka
09/28/18 1:44:41 PM
#265:


Natsuhi: I even went through humiliating examinations
A: At any point, did your husband go through these humiliating procedures? I think your problem may be with the other half of the equation.
A; Does anyone else think there were times when Krauss came home and Oh, no! I have a picture for this occasion!
A: Google! Wine tech monkey mom Loki
K: great combination of words
A: This! I believe this is how Natsuhi feels most days.
https://78.media.tumblr.com/ba9b019af8ff361667e52f5d97d535ee/tumblr_inline_oy4u5kOGtQ1ssmarm_1280.png
Arria also wants to add that techmonkey is a funny comic if youre into the Avengers fanbase.

Beatrice mentions the rivalry between Natsuhi and Eva to produce a kid first.
A: To be fair, you women are battling with your sexual organs. Not a sentence I expected to say, especially about women. There are a lot of swordplay jokes you can make about penises. Not so many about vaginas.

Beatrice: Arent the babies in this country brought by storks?
A: Are you fucking with her, or are you just ignorant?
K: This is Beatrice, what do you think?
A: Shes just being an ass. Got it!
K: Also keep in mind this isnt just Beatrice. Its Beatrice in Natsuhis imagination.
A: This is all internalized misogyny trying to validate why she couldnt have a daughter. Dear god, Natsuhi needs therapy.
K: I think this is herself giving herself therapy.
A: Yeah. She uses Beatrice as a therapist. Not a good idea!
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Eerieka
09/29/18 8:37:29 PM
#266:


They talk about the Fukuin House for a bit.
A: Where is the Fukuin House?
K: On an island somewhere near Rokkenjima, I think
A: Does it have a river nearby? Maybe with sweetfish?
K: *laughs* No, I dont think it is what you think it is
The game mentions Lunon Manon and Leinon. Nice translations
I decided to play a risky game and see if I could drive Arria nuts
K: Theres an interesting tidbit in their names
(The game also mentioned Shannon and Kanon in the same list so she goes nuts trying to find some super secret hidden message in Shannon and Kanons names lol)

Flashback to Kinzo telling Natsuhi to accept an adopted child
A: Flashback, I assume?
The rest of the scene play out in which Kinzo tells Natsuhi to accept the baby we all (excluding Arria) know as Lion
A: You know how weve been talking all this time about this didnt really happen. its just symbolic of something else. I REALLY hope thats the case here!
K *laugh*

A: And at no point, did you ever assume its not my body. Oh hey, that guy is pretty. Lets see if hell work.
Krauss appears to chime in with his opinion.
A: This is an interesting situation. Because you can either be a misogynistic pig or you can say maybe theres something wrong with MY dick and take yourself to a doctor.
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Eerieka
09/30/18 9:53:56 PM
#267:


Natsuhi: I dont hate Father. If anything, I hated my own body. I detested it!
A: SO many things wrong with this sentence! Oh, this game. And that sentence out of context is so, so bad.

We get the story of Natsuhi tossing the baby down the cliff
Beatrice says that Natsuhi is blameless. Humans are not to blame
A: Yeah, this is not the same Beatrice! Battlers Beatrice would never be this nice.

Ronove says that it was just an unfortunate accident and demons exist to shift blame to
A: I love that sentence, and wow does it sum up a lot of human history.

Beatrice taunts the man from 19 years ago to pick a fight with her
A: Geez, I wish the voices in my head were this useful!

The game keeps calling the baby just the baby and not using pronouns
A: On one hand, I want to believe the baby is a girl. On the other hand, I doubt if Kinzo went to the trouble of picking out a baby, he wouldnt pick a female!
A: Or maybe the game is playing this pronoun game so we dont assume the baby is Erika
(Not sure why she assumes Erika)
K: Or Battler
A: Oooh, thats an idea! They said Battler was Kinzos grandson and not Asumus son. So maybe hes a grandson through some random whore and this baby is Battler!
(I wanted Arria to think this. I am not at all ashamed I had to fucking hand it to her.)
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Popcorn_Fairy
09/30/18 10:06:18 PM
#268:


Eerieka posted...
K: Or Battler
A: Oooh, thats an idea! They said Battler was Kinzos grandson and not Asumus son. So maybe hes a grandson through some random whore and this baby is Battler!
(I wanted Arria to think this. I am not at all ashamed I had to fucking hand it to her.)


Nice save. Now she should easily buy into Battler's counter attack.
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Eerieka
09/30/18 10:09:50 PM
#269:


I was hoping she'd come to that conclusion on her own, so I'm kinda sad I said it. In fact, right after saying it I was sorta thinking "eeehhh, did I say too much?"

I think I'm more disappointed that she thought Erika had anything to do with it. Like, come on Arria... she's just Bern's OC donut steel.
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Popcorn_Fairy
09/30/18 10:16:56 PM
#270:


Is she familiar at all with Higurashi?
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Eerieka
09/30/18 10:20:57 PM
#271:


She knows what I've told her about it, which is basically whenever something in Umineko pops up which is relevant.

Ten years ago or so I had her watch Onikakushi-hen and the torture/killing parts of Meakashi-hen (we were in our edgelord phase...) When I asked her about it, she distinctly remembers the part where Rika stabs herself with a knife, so when Bern first appeared, she knew who I was talking about when I said she was sorta-kinda Rika.
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Popcorn_Fairy
09/30/18 10:24:40 PM
#272:


Ok, I was gonna say, Bern and Erika are basically massive Higurashi Callbacks, so being familiar with it would tip you off there. But if she hasn't seen it, I can see trying to work Erika into a theory.
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Eerieka
10/01/18 6:52:45 PM
#273:


Natsuhi said Kinzo reacted oddly to the babys death
We see Kinzo laughing and talking about how you escaped me again!
A: This is so incredibly creepy! Especially if this really happened and its not just symbolic
From my perspective, it seems like Kinzo has this belief that Beatrice inhabits the childs body after the parents death. So he thinks the soul of Beatrice went from Beatrice Castiglioni to Beatrice Ushiromiya to Sayo/Lion, and since he thinks Sayo/Lion died, the soul escaped his reach once again.

Krauss came home and saw how nuts Kinzo was
A: they have these things called old folks homes.
K: I think the mansion IS his old folks home.
A: At this point, I think Krauss would be validated calling for the men in white coats to take him away.
K: Also keep in mind this is 19 years ago. Kinzo is still old, but maybe not decrepitly so.
A: Its never too early to call up Shady Acres. Excuse me, we have a wild one over here. Bring two of your burliest!
(We laugh)
A: Sometimes I dont know what comes out of my mouth!

At some point in the discussion, Gaap starts to take Natsuhis place.
A: Does Gaap represent Natsuhi? We always talk about who is who and at this point, Gaap has become Natsuhi. Or Natsuhi has become Gaap
K: Its possible. Just like how I think Gaap in Ep 4 is often Gohda, you could say Gaap here is Natsuhi.
A: I like that idea
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Eerieka
10/02/18 9:08:16 PM
#274:


bump

I have an update, but it requires some work and I'm so pissed off right now at various things irl that I can't be assed to do it.
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Eerieka
10/04/18 12:40:15 AM
#275:


Natsuhi makes some statements that are oddly specific. Like she had to be on the cliff
A: Does anyone else think Natsuhi pushed this servant and baby? She couldnt have known these details.
K: No! What are you talking about? GAAP pushed the servant! She just admitted it. And what did you JUST SAY Gaap was?
A: *sudden dawning of understanding* Natsuhi
K: Oh no! Natsuhi is blameless! It was a witch that did it! A demon! Beatrice herself said so!
A: Aww SHIT.
K: Just like Natsuhi saying its not my fault I couldnt have a kid! this is Natsuhi saying its not my fault the baby fell off the cliff! Its just therapy.
A: Im pretty sure therapy isnt about denial! In fact, Im pretty sure thats something they try to steer you away from!

While I was typing, Arria was doing something in Paint. with Natsuhis body. Shes cropped her head off.
K: What are you doing to Natsuhis body?
A: *looks at me accusingly* Put that in the note!
(A while later)
A: Ill show you when Im done! Just remember this conversation later!
(later while shes working on it and keeping the screen away from me)
K: How scared should I be?
A: I dunno! Husband, how scared should she be?
His face turns into horror and disgust. Wow
(later)
A: Alright, its not great, but this is how I imagine Natsuhi right now!
It's literally the head of Gollum from LotR edited onto Natsuhi's body.
A (Gollum voice): yes, my precious! We must get the ring! We must hide it from the hobbitses!
*We laugh*
A: What a god damn mess.
K: I like how it doesnt have hair until it does. (It was a pretty bad edit lol)
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Eerieka
10/04/18 4:09:15 PM
#276:


Today's the anniversary of the Rokkenjima massacre. Happy Murder Day everyone!
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Popcorn_Fairy
10/04/18 5:59:43 PM
#277:


Praise the noble name of the Golden Witch in remembrance.
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Eerieka
10/05/18 9:19:46 PM
#278:


A: Im gonna guess, uhh whats her name the other one the one who freaks me out. Lambdadelta! The 19th Man is gonna be her piece.
A: That, or Natsuhi is literally hallucinating this.

The man threatens Natsuhi very creepily and then Natsuhi screams at him to stop
A: I love the idea that this is all in her head. Like, shes just screaming into a receiver that no one else is on

Lambda says she can do a bunch of voices and her final one is just a sound effect.
A: Was that a gunshot? Can you imagine talking and just blah blah blah BOOM and you go outside and its Lambda? Lifelong phobia of Lambda in three two one

Bern: Youd make a good voice actress.
A; I love the idea of Berns voice actress saying that to Lambdas voice actress.
K: Berns voice actress is fairly well known and popular, but I dont know much about Lambdas voice actress. I dont know what else shes been in
*I look it up*
K: Shes been in a lot of shows I recognize. Some Ive even watched, but no roles that I would recognize. Minor background roles.
A: Maria Watches Over Us? A scary title in Umineko context
K: *laugh* Pretty sure MariMite is just a slice of life Catholic school series.
K: Oh, Seikon no Qwaser. You watched that one, didnt you?
A: I dont think so?
K: With the breastfeeding to gain magical powers?
A: I would remember that if I saw it!
(I show her a scene from Seikon no Qwaser)
A: What the fuck did I just watch? Do I want to remember this? Do I want to write this to ROM or let it delete?
(Back to Umineko)
A: Wow, this feels normal now!
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Eerieka
10/07/18 12:11:21 AM
#279:


bump. It's gonna be a while before we hang out again, so I gotta stretch the remaining material out. :(
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10/07/18 12:14:54 AM
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10/07/18 12:35:37 AM
#281:


Not if I have anything to say about it! I'll keep this topic bumped, no worries. And I do have a little bit of material left before I run dry.
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Eerieka
10/07/18 9:01:55 PM
#282:


Lambda mentions Ange being burgers again
A: Ive just gotten so used to you being evil it doesnt faze me anymore.

The witches talk to the audience
A: This is creepy. Its a good example of the Fourth Wall Wont Protect You.

The witches say something to doll-Beatrice about how she should throw herself off a cliff and die
A: I feel like thats a clue!
A; Also, FUCK I need a timeline
Beatrice has a no nonsense look
A: her face adequately sums up my feelings on Lambda and Bern right now

Erika says she wants to help Battler and win.
A: I love her face. Shes so adorable, and yet so evil at the same time.
K: I feel like Erika is trying her best to be a good sport and Battler is just shitting all over her.
A: I can see that.
Erika: Im a far more useful piece than Ange. She was useless meat
A: In case anyone was still confused that she is pure evil!
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Popcorn_Fairy
10/08/18 3:39:12 AM
#283:


Eerieka posted...
I feel like Erika is trying her best to be a good sport


Erika and Good Sport shouldn't be used in the same sentence.
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10/08/18 4:03:11 AM
#284:


You're absolutely correct, but in that one scene, I swear to God she actually sorta-kinda came off as a good person until Battler told her to fuck off.

I mean, it was probably building up to a ruse which Battler wasn't falling for, but still...
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Eerieka
10/08/18 5:21:11 PM
#285:


bump
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Eerieka
10/09/18 9:10:36 PM
#286:


keepin it bumped. Arria has been busy juggling work and college classes.
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Eerieka
10/10/18 9:30:52 PM
#287:


daily bump

On of these days I may organize some of my own thoughts instead of just bumping. I'd like to keep things somewhat fresh.
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Eerieka
10/11/18 6:32:45 PM
#288:


bump. May have a write up of my own tomorrow.
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Mega Mana
10/12/18 4:43:00 PM
#289:


Eerieka posted...
We return to the game where theres a dialogue box talking about my inability to become pregnant while Natsuhi and Beatrice are on screen.
A: For a second, I thought Beatrice was talking there! Like, whoa I didnt know you were trying!


Oh my
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10/12/18 5:31:01 PM
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Kiras collective thoughts/observations/interpretations:

Ep 1 was fairly straight-forward on re-read. Sayo had a goal in mind and went about it with minimal interruption. Various mysterious letters could have been placed by Kanon or Genji depending on the scene. Any shenanigans with keys (I don't think this episode had any) is resolved by knowing Sayo had a master key.

The part where Battler almost grabs Shannons boobs goes from being dumb fanservice on the first reading to holy shit you almost solved the entire game on the second reading. And Sayo herself goes from dumb submissive meido to tragic gender-confused person who just wants Battler to FUCKING FIGURE IT OUT ALREADY. This is another instance of Sayo resigning herself to fate. If Battler grabs her fake boobs and all is revealed, such is fate. If he did not, then fate says its time to murder.

Twilight 1 the five non-Shannon corpses are dead as they appear. There is no 6th corpse. Hideyoshi and Kanon are the only ones who see Shannons corpse. Of course, Kanon is Sayo and Hideyoshi was bribed to say whatever Sayo wanted him to say. Hideyoshi describing the wedding ring on Shannons finger is sad and touching the first time, but fucking weird the second time. You can practically feel Kanon staring at him and thinking dont fuck this up.

Twilight 2 Kanon entered Eva and Hideyoshis room because they let him in. I mean, he IS bribing them so maybe they were gonna discuss murders/money/whatever. He kills them. He then goes to Genji and tells him to ready the paint. While Genji is getting blood-red paint, Kanon gets the chain-cutter and cuts the chain to Eva/Hideyoshis room which was never set to begin with. Genji paints the magic circle.

Twilight 4 Kinzo was already dead and put into the boiler a while ago.

Twilight 5 Kanon runs away from the others and has an internal struggle with himself. He opens the back door and screams to get the attention of the others. He uses fake blood to trick the others into thinking he was attacked. The stake never pierces his body. While Battler runs outside looking for the assailant, Nanjo takes Kanon away to heal his wounds. In the next scene, we are told through narration that Nanjo couldnt save Kanon, however we (and Battler) never see Kanon. In truth, he was never hurt and he is now running around the mansion unsupervised.

Twilights 6, 7, 8 Kanon killed Kumasawa, Genji, and Nanjo. He was very likely dressed as Beatrice here because he was able to convince Maria that he was Beatrice. He told her to stand against the wall and keep singing. Then he dialed the phone to the room Natsuhi was in and let the phone hang there.

Twilight 9 Kanon (probably still dressed as Beatrice) dueled Natsuhi. He had a gun and shot her. Then the bomb went off and everyone died.
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Popcorn_Fairy
10/13/18 5:54:28 PM
#291:


Yeah, that's pretty much how I see episode 1 going down.
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10/14/18 6:34:28 PM
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bump. Write up for ep 2 tomorrow
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Eerieka
10/15/18 4:58:54 PM
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Ep 2:

Everyone knows this is how it happened:
JnrAobO

Twilight 1: Sayo took all the Ushiromiya adults to the chapel and told them to accept her as the heir. She had a few gold bars laid out as proof. Rosa was already bribed and on board with the murder plan back when Sayo dressed as Beatrice gave Maria the letter. Sayo murders everyone in the chapel except Rosa. Hell, maybe Rosa helps out. She probably enjoyed murdering the siblings she hated so much. Sayo and Rosa leave without locking the door. All that shit later about the key and the door was just fluff so we could learn about the red truth. Although Rosa DID take the key out of Marias bag in the morning, either to confirm the key was inside, but probably also to look for the letter.

Twilight 2: Kanon went into Jessicas room by her own invitation. He had an internal Ep 6-style love duel whereby Shannon killed Kanon. Since the persona of Kanon died, his love for Jessica also died and he no longer needed her. He killed her, exited the room, and locked the door with the master key assigned to Shannon.

Twilight 4 and 5: The servants were hanging out in the kitchen. Sayo told Genji it was time for murder and they killed Nanjo and Kumasawa. I like to imagine Genji whipped out some killer ninja moves as seen, but in all likelihood he just walked up behind these two old people and slit their throats. Or maybe he did one and Sayo did the other. Then they told Gohda to stay quiet or hed be next. Sayo could have also told Gohda that he can be her personal chef and makes tons of money once she becomes the Head.

Twilight 6, 7, and 8: Sayo told everyone that they needed to go to Natsuhis room which is where she hid the rest of the guns. I like to believe this is where Sayo reveals what she is to George that she is a man whose genitals were mangled in the cliff incident. Try as she might to convince George that she loves him, he is unable to come to terms with it. To be fair, George is also dealing with the death of his parents so hes not in the best state of mind to learn his girlfriend (who he also just proposed to) is a male. Sayo and Genji kill Gohda and George with the guns and then plant a stake in each of them. Sayo tells Genji to go finish off the ceremony while she stays here. Distraught that she was rejected, Sayo then commits suicide with the ol gun-dumbbell-cabinet trick.

Twilight 9: Battler gets drunks and hallucinates. Genji tries to sober him up, but the bomb goes off before that happens. Rosa flees with Maria, thinking theyll be safe from the bomb if she gets to the ocean which she believes to be outside the blast radius. They die anyway.
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10/15/18 5:03:12 PM
#294:


Yeah, I like to think Genji is an efficient killer. Nothing fancy, get the job done and move on, Michael Myers style.
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Eerieka
10/16/18 5:54:17 PM
#295:


I will never not think of the comedian/actor Mike Myers whenever anyone mentions the horror character Michael Myers.

But yeah, Genji is probably an efficient killer. My knife-tossing ninja idea is really just that... an ideation. Something I like to pretend.
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Eerieka
10/18/18 1:15:24 AM
#296:


bump
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Eerieka
10/18/18 6:18:54 PM
#297:


bump. maybe write up tomorrow. dunno. not in a good mood today :\
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Eerieka
10/19/18 10:49:18 PM
#298:


Wheeee, reading some seacats with Arria right now! Maybe we'll get to Dlanor today.
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10/19/18 11:13:35 PM
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10/20/18 3:01:42 PM
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Oh hey, I forgot to post this one. This was the last thing we had prior to that long break:

A: The way my computer is angled, I cant see Lambdas gloves and she looks like she has stumps for arms
K: Wait her gloves are black? Have they always been black?
A: Yes?
K: Really? On an amaloli? Wouldnt white gloves make more sense?
A: Oh god now Im second guessing myself! Look up a sprite from chapter 2!
Yeah, she has black gloves I swear to God I just never noticed and it makes sense in my head that she would wear white or pink gloves. Weird

Meta-Battler is chilling with doll-Beatrice and he says this:
Battler: Ill grab it and take it back!
A: Well my mind went to a bad place!
K: Hes gonna grab it by the pussy?
A: No, I was going more like this is my wife! No, that is a doll! It is not your waifu!
A: I need an adult. Preferably one who isnt Kira
K: I am not the adult you are looking for.
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