Board 8 > Arria plays/reads Umineko blind, Kira cackles at her SPOILERS ARE OKAY #3

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Eerieka
04/29/18 7:14:36 PM
#1


WARNING THAT THERE WILL BE SPOILERS FOR ALL OF UMINEKO IN THIS TOPIC STARTING IN THIS POST. YOU DO NOT NEED TO USE SPOILERS TAGS UNLESS YOU'RE SPOILING A DIFFERENT STORY. DO NOT READ THIS TOPIC IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED UMINEKO

Arria is reading Umineko blind, but she's not in this topic! This is Kira transcribing her thoughts and inserting my own, and posting them here

The topic so far:

Ep 1 and 2:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_59jGjel11RPbTsaryatO8ROumfZEKxngJmgGcQSmlo/edit?usp=sharing

Ep 3 and 4:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r3tUBsFSgzuxzc1nU7wvb8c2D3OVDeoh2zMZBp2aOy4/edit?usp=sharing

NOTE: I have left out any commentary made by the users here out of respect for your own privacy, but I have them saved in my own personal Word Doc. If you say it's okay, I'll add in your commentary to the above documents.

Feel free to comment on anything, whether it's from ep 1 or ep 8! We love seeing reactions, discussions, funny pictures, you name it. I'll share anything non-spoilery with Arria and I'll ask her anything you want me to ask her.

Congrats to Popcorn Fairy for nabbing the 500 post in the last topic!

We're in the "good parts" (imo) of Episode 4 as of this post. Soon to be in Chiru!
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Eerieka
04/29/18 7:17:32 PM
#2


@Popcorn_Fairy
@JeffreyRaze
@tcaz2
@Raka_Putra
@Mega_Mana

I think those are our regulars... some of you guys I haven't seen in a long time! Raka and tcaz, I'm about to hold a funeral for you two. :P If you just aren't into reading the topic anymore, that's fine. Just ignore me. I-it's not l-like I liked you guys or a-anything, b-baka. Nah, j/k, I know Raka apparently has a job that requires him to be away weeks at a time maybe? And tcaz has other projects and such he likes to do?
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/29/18 7:19:40 PM
#3


Hyped for 5. I can't wait to get to the Erika stuff.
Mega Mana
04/29/18 7:41:55 PM
#4


Oh man, I'll have to finish up llage ten before purge.
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tcaz2
04/29/18 7:52:14 PM
#5


I'd just gotten behind on the topic and kept putting off catching up <_<

I'll probably take the time to actually do so tonight or tomorrow.
JeffreyRaze
04/29/18 8:36:18 PM
#6


My memory isn't the sharpest at the best of times, so forgive me if I'm mixing up episodes here. The reason I suspect Kyrie for this part is that the call them out and test them plot was her idea in Tea Party 7, so it'd make sense if she was doing that here as Yasu's accomplice. I think Yasu appeared in front of everyone and used the gold to get them to acknowledge her as the new head of house, then split off the dungeon group while she killed the dinning room group. Krauss was probably thinking he was an accomplice but didn't know everyone would actually be killed, while Kyrie made some suggestions/alterations to Yasu's plan. They probably brought Jessica at least in on it for a bit for the phone call, but then actually killed her. Eventually Yasu turned on Kyrie and killed her along with the others.

Again, this is half baked remembrance of what I was thinking at some point in the past, so it's spotty as hell.
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/29/18 8:42:16 PM
#7


You're not far off from my line of thought. I think just about all the adults were in on it in Episode 4. But not to the killing part. My thoughts are Sayo appeared and claimed headship, then got them all in on a murder mystery joke. Little did they know that Sayo was actually murdering people.

Because most of the group was in on it, and playing along with what they thought was a game, it opens a ton of things up for the Storyteller to mess with and do ridiculous things.
Eerieka
04/30/18 2:12:41 PM
#8


Thanks for sharing, Jeffrey. It makes sense to me. Personally I like to believe something close to that, but with a few other aspects. I won't share my ideas right now since I don't remember all the red truth that has been stated for this episode. I know I could check the wiki but ehh... I'll just wait until we get to the tea party in the rose garden.

I always hated the answer of "hey let's all pretend we're in a murder mystery so Battler can solve it!" Although I guess there's no other way to look at Ep 6 (replace Battler with Erika).

~~~

A: I really love the relationship between George and Shannon. I really hope theres one world where they just kill everyone and live happily ever after.
K: I could see such a world existing somewhere in the Sea of Kakera.
A: The what?
K: Come on Arria, weve been over this. Its what they call their multiverse.

Now we got Victima Propaciatoria.

George: I got this kick from my mom. And from my dad, I got fortitude
A: because your dad is the sub.

We looked up the meaning of Victima Propaciatoria and one thing led to another and 2 hours later, were back to Umineko

A: I love that George is only announcing what he COULD do and not actually doing it!

Gaap summons the goats away
A: And this leaves an opening for Kanon, right?
K: Possibly. I always feel like goats are an endless resource so I dont pay attention to them, but that DID sound like the implication when she said gomen Lia.
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/30/18 2:26:52 PM
#9


Eerieka posted...
I always hated the answer of "hey let's all pretend we're in a murder mystery so Battler can solve it!" Although I guess there's no other way to look at Ep 6 (replace Battler with Erika).


Except Sayo was actually murdering them. They were unaware of that small detail.

Battler's was supposed to be legit, until Erika did Erika things.
Eerieka
04/30/18 3:53:48 PM
#10


Yeah, I meant that the set-up was "hey let's pretend to have a murder game!" which later turns into real murder through whatever means. I don't like that set-up. I've heard Ep 4's set-up was like that, but I prefer the usual explanation of 'Sayo revealed themselves as the true heir, bribed some people, had to kill others, etc.'
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/30/18 4:05:38 PM
#11


Still not far off. I don't imagine they just decided to play along for funzies. I imagine she used the gold to get them to play. That's how she got the adults split up. After that, I imagine the set up slowly fell apart once she needed more bodies. I imagine most of the phone calls were made with guns to the head. After the first twilight, the set up wasn't necessary because she had everyone where she wanted them.
Mega Mana
04/30/18 7:02:08 PM
#12


Mmm, gonna have to read the latter half of 4 again to really get a good read on things, but I think 'shooting' Genji in the dining room was either giving him a gun or revealing his complicity in hiding Sayo for so long, same with Kumasawa into Virgilia. Both she and Gohda ran to push the mystery murder to the kids, and I'm guessing part of the deal for all the adults to play along after the Kinzo is dead reveal was information about the bomb, and only if they found a true successor would Shannon turn it off.

More when I get home

As far as the killings, I'd need to see when/how Shannon died again and how it was described. I know Kanon was missing, but forgot the full status of Shannon's body. The proble....

o_O

My mind's reeling and I should really, really go back to Episode 4 to see if any of my ramblings pan out, but... maybe there's a nugget of truth? Who knows?

...What if... what if Shannon isn't Beatrice when Battler arrives at the mansion later? Though, that's later sliced by the Red Truth later I believe (only Kanon can be Kanon, no one could mistake Kinzo for someone else; unless there's a Beatrice related one,t hat may be a loophole), what if the Beatrice way up on the rooftop is a Kyrie full of despair after killing all her relatives and dealing with the fact that Rudolf had been hiding her kid's heritage all this time and that he was destined to inherit a bunch of money once Jessica and George failed the tests? The Asumu questions don't seem like something Sayo would focus on, and it would be a strong parallel for Ange's island return and dealing with Kyrie's crazy ass sister.

Of course, this is predicated on knowledge I haven't read or retained for over a year. And Sayo could easily have heard about it from her accomplice, Kyrie, or Rudolf confessed it at some point (leading to a killing game instead of 'fun' murder mystery), and using Battler's parentage against him is fitting for a soul whose parentage has wrecked her life since birth. Giving Battler a small taste of that confusion and soulbreak she went through after George and Jessica failed... that's Sayo, yeah. That's someone who would trigger a bomb if they couldn't understand her or get the gold for themselves.

I forget what I was going to talk about on my way home and instead rambled in circles. UMINEKO!

Also, I'm reading The Perfect Storm right now, and as things get closer to the storm, I'm reminded of the Umineko episodes. There are facts in the book and quotes from people who were there before they left or talked with them over the radio, but everything on the boat is speculation and 'they likely did' based on reasonable things the crew would be doing and why they went the route they took. It feels very, very much like an Umineko bottle story now, with presumptive discussion over what happened in the seacatbox.

Who knows? Maybe there's another "Perfect Storm" book out there with a similar but different version of events involving more magic and goats and witches and kraken.
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Eerieka
04/30/18 7:20:51 PM
#13


Popcorn_Fairy posted...
I don't imagine they just decided to play along for funzies. I imagine she used the gold to get them to play.


Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I think at most Sayo thought "hey wouldn't a murder mystery set up be fun" but then everyone is is like "no", but because she has the guns and gold, she makes the rules.

Mega Mana posted...
I think 'shooting' Genji in the dining room was either giving him a gun or revealing his complicity in hiding Sayo for so long, same with Kumasawa into Virgilia.


Yes, I believe this as well right now, but I was going to wait until I reread all the red text for episode 4's tea party. I couldn't recall if there was any red text discussing Genji or Kumasawa's deaths.
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/30/18 7:27:36 PM
#14


I think we're digging too deep into meta and stuff now. I'm pretty sure Genji was just shot like everyone else during the first twilight.
Mega Mana
04/30/18 7:45:32 PM
#15


Popcorn_Fairy posted...
I think we're digging too deep into meta and stuff now. I'm pretty sure Genji was just shot like everyone else during the first twilight.


Then how did he test Jessica later?
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/30/18 7:49:13 PM
#16


As I said earlier, he wasn't there. The test is a lie. Sayo used the test to bring out George and Jessica and killed them like that.
Popcorn_Fairy
04/30/18 7:51:47 PM
#17


Oh better phrasing. Lemme channel my inner Will. The test is an Illusion.
Eerieka
04/30/18 7:57:33 PM
#18


I understand that we can all be correct. It could have gone down any way we've mentioned (unless we're forgetting a red truth somewhere), and I also acknowledge that Popcorn Fairy's idea is the simplest solution. But I do like to believe Genji was alive for a while and doing -something- to Jessica, as symbolized by her fight with Ronove.

That said, does anyone know what the manga said about chapter 4?
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Popcorn_Fairy
04/30/18 8:15:43 PM
#19


One minute. Found the part where Will does his thing in the Manga.
Popcorn_Fairy
04/30/18 8:29:58 PM
#20


I know I don't need to, but Imma put the Manga Explanation in Spoiler Tags.

First twilight

"Except for Battler, everyone was bribed. The beings from another world were a lie they agreed to beforehand."

Second Twilight

"The two of them moved according to a scenario."

4th Through 8th

"Demons and witches are all falsehoods."

"The Silent Corpses do not not tell anything."

This one isn't as specific, but the images show Shannon going trigger happy and shooting everyone.The dining hall corpses are all laying in blood pools, Kyrie, Nanjo, Krauss, George, Kumasawa, Gohda, Genji and Jessica are all shown being shot by Shannon. Maria is slumped against a wall dead, I don't see any injuries, so I don't know exactly how she died.
Eerieka
05/01/18 2:24:12 PM
#21


Huh, pretty vague. Kinda disappointing, but I guess that means we're all able to have our own ideas. Thanks for finding it, Popcorn Fairy

~~~

The game makes the statement that Determination + Certainty = Magic
A: This is gonna play out in the Metaverse, isnt it? Battler has been determined from the beginning, but never really certain.
K: I wonder how that might play into Lambdadeltas role as the Witch of Certainty?
A: Can you make your own certainty? And for that matter, how will this play into Bernkastels miracle thing where she tells certainty to go fuck itself?
K (internally): sometimes quite literally

A: I also like this line nothing is useless. As opposed to Battlers Its all useless!
Krauss: If you give up because something useless, thats when your life ends!
A: This is Ryukishi pulling the audiences chain. If this statement were literally true, Battler has died an infinite number of deaths at this point, none of them by Beatrice.

Kanon prepares to break the prison bars
A: I had an emotion and my brain was like how do I express this? How about this: about damn time, numb nuts! Its taken how many deaths? Your sister has bigger balls than you do. Jessica is gonna be in for a sad surprise when she gets you in a closet. The phrase micro penis comes to mind.
K (internally): (holy fuck I want to laugh so hard. Stop Arria. Youre gonna make me break my poker face.)

A: I have to love this sentence: The guard goats arent there for some reason! Like, that is a FUN sentence!
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Popcorn_Fairy
05/01/18 3:02:22 PM
#22


Is less vague than Will is in the VN though. In the VN all he really says about episode 4 is that it's a lie.
Eerieka
05/02/18 2:09:57 PM
#23


Chiester 00 used the word battle regulation and I misread it as Battler
Arria told me how she had a brain fart the other day and wanted to say she had a butler fetish but it came out as Battler fetish
I told her the connection between Battler and butler (i.e. they sound the same in Japanese) and why Ryukishi named him that (as a joke to claim the Battler did it.
A: Oh God what if thats the truth? Battler did it and hes being interrogated by detective Beatrice?

Krauss: Im not interested in principles
A: That is the summary of your life, Krauss

Krauss says hell wait three minutes for Kanon to break the prison bars
A: You aint going anywhere, numb nuts. Youll give him all the time he needs!
A: And yes I realize Ive used numb nuts twice now. I ran out of words.
K: That is a weird phrase. Gonna look at the other translation in case one of the others says something like the goats will be back in three minutes. Not like Krauss should know that, but I dunno
(It was more or less the same. still odd imo.)
A: Do you want to check the Japanese?
K: Im sure its the same idea. maybe Krauss just wants to be bossy with his servants
A: Dude, in this situation, the whole master and servant thing has been tossed out the window.
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JeffreyRaze
05/02/18 2:20:52 PM
#24


Popcorn_Fairy posted...
Is less vague than Will is in the VN though. In the VN all he really says about episode 4 is that it's a lie.


I looked up the exact quote and it's "Illusions to illusions. Tales woven by the gold truth return to illusions." The gold truth almost certainly means bribery in this context.
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Eerieka
05/02/18 2:25:54 PM
#25


I thought the gold truth referred to Kinzo, as he was the central piece in Battler's gold truth statement: "I guarantee that this corpse is Ushiromiya Kinzo's corpse...!!"

i.e. Tales told (by Kinzo, an illusion) return to illusion.
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Popcorn_Fairy
05/02/18 2:26:29 PM
#26


I didn't think of the gold for that. I saw Will quote as meaning, "She made it all up"
Popcorn_Fairy
05/02/18 2:27:09 PM
#27


The Golden Truth is something I though would be related, but I still don't really get the Golden Truth.
Eerieka
05/02/18 2:28:57 PM
#28


Popcorn_Fairy posted...
The Golden Truth is something I though would be related, but I still don't really get the Golden Truth.


I "get" the golden truth about Kinzo. But in later episodes when it talks about "a splendid work of magic" well... I think it went over my head the first time. Maybe I'll understand it better this time now that I understand Umineko-magic a little better.
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Popcorn_Fairy
05/02/18 2:37:44 PM
#29


Can you maybe explain it, because I didn't really understand anything regarding the Golden Truth. How's it different than red? Why can only the Game Master use it?

Like once things move to the meta, I just get lost as hell.
Eerieka
05/02/18 3:19:08 PM
#30


I took golden truth to essentially be a 'law' from the Game Master whereas red truth is any true statement used by players. What I mean by law is... it was stated that only Game Masters or those with the ability to become a Game Master can use the golden truth. I like to think of it similar to a D&D GM. The GM can place a rule into effect that all players must abide by. Obviously, if someone doesn't like the rule, they can walk out. But then it stops being a game. The player can leave the table, but no one in Umineko wants to do that by this point.

Conversely, the red truth is meant to debated, analyzed, torn-apart, etc. If a player doesn't like a red truth statement, they have to find the loophole. It doesn't mean the red truth is false, but it hides the truth.

So when the statement about Kinzo's corpse was made, I interpreted that as "the Game Master has decreed that this is an absolute law of the game. Kinzo is dead and this is his corpse. There's no trickery regarding concepts such as 'someone else is named Kinzo and this is their body' or 'this is a dummy that we decided to name Kinzo for funsies.'" If the same statement had been said in red, it would have been equally true, but it also would have been open to debate. It's Ryukishi's way of saying there's no bullshit or word-play shenanigans involved.

I have no explanation for the "splendid magic" golden truth though, as I don't remember the context very well. I'll have to wait until it shows up again.
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Eerieka
05/03/18 3:51:35 PM
#31


Chiesters are blocked by Shannon and Kanon
K: I mean, you know whats really happening right?
A: Theyre firing guns
K: Not just that, Kumasawa is firing a gun. *I mimic an old shaky woman firing a gun* Then she misses completely and Shannon and kanon are like wtf
A: Maybe the Kanon and Shannon part is like they dove at Krauss and saved him?

Chiesters malfunction
A: *laugh* please wait several hundred seconds *thunk*

Arria snorted. I loved that. All the goats wanted a prize so they couldnt get through. And then Virgilia is like what have I done?

Game: Nanjo, with his lethal waist
A: His lethal waist?
K; I mean, hes a walrus
A: Oh yeah this reminds me of a thing: http://cdn.slowrobot.com/472014223341.jpg
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Eerieka
05/04/18 3:04:15 PM
#32


Kyries face is obscured by a bar
A: Well thats a nice placement.
Krauss basically has the same thing happen lol
K: Are we censoring their faces? Is this like in those crime shows we must protect the innocent!
A: *laughs* The two most suspicious and probably-guilty people, no less!
qETMsAP
(For some reason Arria decided to take a picture instead of a screen shot)

Arrias husband just came up from downstairs. I wonder if shell flip out to him when the DBZ moment occurs in a moment (he likes DBZ)

This is a really creepy use of this sprite! (Virgilias eyes open and partially in shadow)

Nanjo talks about how unreasonable their discussion of walking speed is
A: Well youre learning, Nanjo, and thats all we can ask of you, Fish-Breath

Kyrie put a metal pole between the goats vitals
A: I like to thinks she put it between its legs
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Eerieka
05/05/18 3:44:51 PM
#33


A: And the goat shattered? Thats an interesting word to use.

Nanjo gives medical advice to the goat
A: Is Nanjo in on this?
K: To be fair, I think weve established that Nanjo is always in on it
K: And they have an animal connection
A: But hes a walrus, not a goat. you dont see any goats of the sea
K: Capricorn? I mean, if were playing with mythological creatures.
A: Is that what this is gonna be? A love story between a walrus and goat to create a Capricorn?

Game: (paraphrasing, but Gaap was made physically aware of Georges dominance.)
K: Thats such a good sentence
A: Yessss

Ronove upgraded his shield with ninja hand movements
A: Ryukishi literally said fuck it, didnt he?
K: Yeah pretty much
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Eerieka
05/06/18 3:32:36 PM
#34


Virgilia laughed
Is even her laugh the same as Kumasawas?
Arrias husband mimicked the noise (hes really good at imitating sound effects)
K: that was really good! Just dont let him learn ahaha.wav
A: Oh god no, hes not allowed to listen to it. Hell use it when I least want him to

A: are the Chiesters computers now?! (Arria is interested in computers, so she got a kick out of this scene)

A: I love how uncomfortable Virgilia is
Virgilia: Did this become a goats only car? Stop touching my butt!
A: Just what the fuck Ryukishi? What the fuck?
K: This is pretty much the line I think of when I think of episode 4
She suggests I should do this with other episodes, but I think my most memorable line for the others are all serious ones.

Virgilia: You can have some mackerel curry later!
A: I like that. Just to remind us that Virgilia is Kumasawa. Also, I love mackerel and I love curry, but I dont think I want to try mackerel curry.
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Eerieka
05/07/18 11:59:40 AM
#35


The goat is described as putting its hands together and writhing
Arria got up I dont know what they mean by this, but this is what I imagine. (dances)
(Shes right between the TV and her husband playing games on said TV)
K: I think hes thinking wtf is my wife doing?
A: Being the worlds worst belly dancer. No, second worse. The goat is first worst.

Oh here we go. The Krauss-counter.

A: Does it bother you that DBZs villain laughs like a woman?
I had NO IDEA why she brought that up, especially since the DBZ moment is coming up, so I had to ask. (Arrias husband imitated Virgilias laugh and it was similar to his Frieza-laugh.)
K: Okay, I had to ask because something is about to happen. youll see.
A: What is Virgilia about to make an over 9000 joke?
(I gave her a look of uhh. I dont want to answer, but yes.)
Arria laughed. A: I love how you are trying not to give anything away, but your face just froze like that.

A: Alright, Im gonna make this reference just to make you both cringe. DBZ? What? Is she gonna do a Hadouken?
We both cringe
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Eerieka
05/08/18 4:02:17 PM
#36


Virgilia says we might be able to win by episode 24
A: I love how the fourth wall SOMETIMES exist

The first or the loser flags pops up. Pin Pon!
A: What the fuck is this number?
K: Theyll explain it.

Virgilia: Oh if only it could last this long!
A: no! Bad Virgilia! Dont give Ryukishi ideas!

The goat gets a backstory
A; Are these death flags?
K: I point at her YES

Arria is losing her shit right now lmao

A: The lead up to writing this scene *imitates Ryukishi snorting cocaine* Like, it started off fine, and now hes just seeing how weird we can make it. Like might as well inject some heroin now to see what thatll do!
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Popcorn_Fairy
05/08/18 4:06:52 PM
#37


Eerieka posted...
and now hes just seeing how weird we can make it


Yeah, that sums up episode 4.
Eerieka
05/09/18 2:33:58 PM
#38


A: Are we even reading the same fucking story?

We are told how to calculate Krausss power level and also that certain moves are painfully common knowledge in the world of boxing.
A: I feel like there is some very janky math here. Like, janky math and ass pulls.
K: I love this kind of crap. Reminds me of shounen anime.
A: Uh-huh!

They mention the Tenkaichi Budokai and Arria didnt know the term. She asked, and I told her to ask her husband. He also laughed and explained it.
A: Oh my fucking god. So Ryukishi made an over 9000 joke without ACTUALLY saying the words over 9000. I dont know if hes a genius or an asshole.
K: Why not both?

and then the goat just falls on Virgilia. I missed reading it, but Arria laughed. When I asked her what happened, she demonstrated by nearly falling over on her laptop.

A: Okay were gonna just stop here because my brain cannot process this game any more.
K: Are you okay?
A: NO

(this was indeed where we stopped for the night. Gonna read some more on Friday!)
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Eerieka
05/10/18 3:04:40 PM
#39


Bump. Gonna play more tomorrow! I think I'm most looking forward to how Arria reacts to Battler's line of "Oh that's great! I love you Beatrice, so I'll pick option 2!"
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Eerieka
05/11/18 4:18:03 PM
#40


Gonna play some Seacats today!
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Popcorn_Fairy
05/11/18 4:24:21 PM
#41


Hype!
Eerieka
05/12/18 3:07:44 PM
#42


Day 25 (5/11/2018)

I told Arria we were mostly out of the silliness for now
A: Yeah, last time was just wow. Wacky

Game: the more Jessica attacked, the more suicidal it would be
A: And yet I dont think she cares

I mentioned another how in another translation, during a previous scene, Jessica says shes gonna punch his mustache off. I asked if this translation used it and I just missed it, but she didnt recall it.
A: I think if I had read that, Id make a joke about Poirot.
K: Then Ronove says it takes him an hour to set it
A: He doesnt have much of a mustache to set
K: I think its meant to imply it took Genji an hour to find a fake mustache and put it on.
A: *laughs* I like that idea
A: So whats really going on here is Genji is beating the shit out of her. Or well, theyre beating the shit out of each other.

George triggers a loser flag and Gaap says ding dong. The sound was also low and I had to tell Arria what that was about since I think she forgot about the loser flag stuff from last time.

Beatrice pops up laughing like a maniac and high-fives Gaap.
A: However I was expecting this fight to end up, that was much better
A: Also, we need an angelic white Beatrice on the other side of the screen so Gaap can have an angel-and-devil over the shoulder moment.
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Eerieka
05/13/18 2:08:21 PM
#43


Jessica calls Battler and says he cant use the hat-stand spear hes so proud of. Arria had a moment of not knowing wtf a hat-stand spear was, so I tried to explain that Battler was using a coat rack (non-Kanon variety) to defend the guesthouse bedroom.
A: Okay. In my defense, I misread hat-stand as hand-stand spear and was wondering how that works
K: *laugh* A spear you can only use while doing a hand stand!
A: That would be impressive
K: An impressive feat

We return to Krauss, Kyrie, etc. as they are climbing out of the well
A: I have a thought, but I doubt its accurate, so Ill hold onto it.
K: Tell me anyway
A: When they spoke to Battler on the phone, did they say who was in this group?
K: I dont think so.
A: So then it could be that Gaap isnt here (she covers Nanjos sprite, insinuating that Nanjo is Gaap)
K: I wont comment, other than to say its not a bad line of thinking

Then the Chiesters kill people but I missed who exactly.
K: Who died just now?
A: In order, it was Kanon shot through stomach or chest. Shannon through the temples and Nanjo through the forehead.
K: And whats Krauss doing? Being dead?
A: Oh yeah, he died on the way in. I dont recall if it said how or where. *rechecks* Back of the head.
K: Okay.
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Eerieka
05/14/18 2:56:27 PM
#44


Arria considers that Kinzo has been acting a little different in each episodes, if he appears at all.
A: Compare episode 1 Kinzo who was more like well I guess this is my fate to this episodes Kinzo who is fuck everyone Im making it happen!
We talk for a bit about Kinzos point of view and the magic ceremony, how he needs to have a 1 in quadrillion chance of something happening for the magic to work
A: In ep 1, he was waiting for the 1 in a quadrillion to happen. Now hes like trying to force it? I feel like thats not going to work.
A: I mean, obviously hes dead already. We know that. Im trying to think of the magical half of the story.

Kyrie calls Battler
A: So am I suppose to take away from this that someone is really good at imitating Kyries voice?
K: Or someone is really good at convincing Kyrie that magic is real. Or (trying to get her to say it)
A: or
K: Or Kyrie is
A: In on it?
A; So why would Kyrie go nuts and murder everyone starting with her husband?
K: Or did she kill her husband?
A: Or was he killed in the crossfire?
A: I just had an image straight out of the Clue movie where theyre all sitting at the table and they ALL brought a murder weapon! Hey Bob, nice to see you here. Wait, is that a revolver behind your back? Er, yes, Susan. By the way, why do you have that noose?
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Mega Mana
05/14/18 5:25:36 PM
#45


Eerieka posted...
A: I just had an image straight out of the Clue movie where theyre all sitting at the table and they ALL brought a murder weapon! Hey Bob, nice to see you here. Wait, is that a revolver behind your back? Er, yes, Susan. By the way, why do you have that noose?


That's exactly how Episode 4 feels to me.
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Eerieka
05/14/18 7:08:58 PM
#46


Well you're not alone in that thought!
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Eerieka
05/15/18 5:02:33 PM
#47


A: Isnt Maria here?
K: I think so. She should pop up in a second, unless she was called to take the test already.
(Maria appears a moment later)
Maria: Uu, I dont understand why youre mad, Battler.
A: You ever read something and think this is what happens when you roll a 1? Seeing someone who just lost a family member and saying I dont know why youre mad is rolling a 1 on your diplomacy check. And thats if you already have a 1 in diplomacy! Like, your DM is gonna look at you and say you done goofed.

Maria: Ill revive the good Mama. Shell always be with me!
A: *get creepy big eyes* Play with me, Charlie! (botched reference to Candy Mountain)
K: *laughs*
A: Oh God! Thats who she reminds me of! The creepy fucker from Oblivion who killed his mother and kept her head. (We spent a moment figuring out what his name was (she thought it was Matthew Belmont, and I jokingly asked if he was related to the Castlevania Belmonts) (his name was Mathiu Bellamont). Like, this is a degree of loving your mother which is not okay!

A: I fully feel like on Uminekos TVtropes fridge horror page, its 3/4th Maria
K: (I check out of curiosity) Shes only really mentioned once, and its that scene you saw earlier about Maria torturing Rosa in her imagination.
A: I sorta expected more
K: It has a lot of stuff from Eps 5-7, but not really Maria-centric stuff.
A: I hope the TVtropes for Umineko is full of tabs. You know what Im talking about? Like, awesome, characters, fridge horror, tear-jerker, etc.
K: Yeah, we got (I list them all)
Arria LITERALLY squealed like a fangirl. I havent heard her do that in a long time.
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Eerieka
05/16/18 11:18:41 AM
#48


A: I wonder how long Umineko is. So far I feel like its been a Sanderson novel and a half.
K: Funny you should say that, because that was a statistic I looked up a while ago and I was going to mention it once you finished Ep 4. How long do you think its been?
A: However long Oathbringer is and a half.
K: Umineko ep 1-4 is the length of the entire Harry Potter series
A: Holy shit!
(this leads us to look up other VN and games with long word count)
A: What is the longest on that list?
K: Rance 10
A: Never heard of it
K: Its a porn game
A: Its going on the to-play list!
(I showed her some screenshots from the Rance games, namely the look at her underwear or rape her scene)
A: Thats horrible! Why would a VN ever allow this?... Im going to play this game!

Holy shit a thunderstorm started irl JUST as Happy Maria! lyrical version started. Amazing.
Arria really loves this song btw. We also looked up some of the misheard lyrics and she loves it even more
A: I love how the dark bishounen game part also sounds like Ronove is singing
K: Yeah, I dont think the version on my playlist has this male voice in it. Thats new.
A: The alternative is Kinzo
K: I think it sounds like Battler, although why hed be singing in this, I dont know

A: My headcanon for this is exactly as they described it, but with chibi versions of them singing this song as they dance around Kinzo and Beatrice.
K: Kinzos corpse or?
A: Nah, lets pretend hes alive for a moment. Just him and his witch in the middle of a room of gold butterflies while chibis dance.
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Popcorn_Fairy
05/16/18 1:36:41 PM
#49


Did you make it through 4 yet? Because it sounds like you're near the end.

The "It's a porn game." "I'm gonna play it!" exchange made me laugh way harder than I should have.

Happy Maria is great. One of my favorites. But I love all the variations of Fishy Aroma.
Eerieka
05/17/18 2:18:41 AM
#50


We didn't get to the end. We got to Ange's final 1998 scene where she's on her way to Rokkenjima and Arria couldn't deal with her (we also had plans to go out to dinner that day and it was about time to meet up with her husband who said he'd meet us at the restaurant after work).

Haha, yeah, Arria isn't shy about her porn habits. I like that about her, though. It's refreshing having a friend that you can speak so openly with.

Indeed! I think I like all of Umineko's vocal songs, and of course I like their non-vocal versions as well.
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