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Jakyl25
04/16/18 7:05:52 PM
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Not as great of a joke as 168s title but no one ever complimented me for it :-(
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xp1337
04/16/18 7:07:04 PM
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Just when you thought nothing could be crazier than last week.
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NFUN
04/16/18 7:14:50 PM
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xp1337 posted...
Just when you thought nothing could be crazier than last week.

why would you ever think that at this point?
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xp1337
04/16/18 7:18:28 PM
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NFUN posted...
why would you ever think that at this point?

inability to grasp pattern recognition
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Jakyl25
04/16/18 7:19:24 PM
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xp1337 posted...
NFUN posted...
why would you ever think that at this point?

inability to grasp pattern recognition


Incidentally, this is a highly-sought trait in political punditry
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Peace___Frog
04/16/18 7:25:25 PM
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In any other administration, the press secretary lying about the location of the vp when it's easily disproven would be somewhat of a scandal
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Inviso
04/16/18 7:36:20 PM
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I feel like "Someone Finally Called Sean Hannity" could've been a good one too.
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Jakyl25
04/16/18 7:46:23 PM
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Peace___Frog posted...
In any other administration, the press secretary lying about the location of the vp when it's easily disproven would be somewhat of a scandal


I think that was just poor tweet construction on her part. I honestly dont think she meant to imply that the pic was the same night as the strike, but she accidentally implied as such.

Like, theres no maliciousness to be gained from lying there. The photo was real. Her message was real. They just dont fit continuity-wise.

Trying to give the most benefit of the doubt possible so that when they do unconditionally fuck up it means more.
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Jakyl25
04/16/18 7:50:08 PM
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Corrik posted...

Do you have some poll evidence of this being a GOP catastrophe? Responses to Florida and Texas were widely praised.

Puerto Rico was a major rallying cry from liberals despite the obvious logitistical issues present.

Did the GOP have a large outcry over this?


Moral catastrophe. Not political catastrophe. Im not sure why you are trying to equivocate the two. I was just making a point that there is little the GOP could do to catastrophically lose their base, because their moral catastrophes dont affect anything in the election.
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Kenri
04/16/18 7:55:51 PM
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A person posted...
If you want to keep up your hope of a "blue wave" then by all means, do so.

. . .

Barring an absolute catastrophic next 6 months by the GOP, it should retain the house.

. . .

I am specifically talking about things that will turn off GOP voters.

just in case you all missed when this conversation "suddenly" changed completely lmao
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BowserCuffs
04/16/18 8:30:42 PM
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Kenri posted...
A person posted...
If you want to keep up your hope of a "blue wave" then by all means, do so.

. . .

Barring an absolute catastrophic next 6 months by the GOP, it should retain the house.

. . .

I am specifically talking about things that will turn off GOP voters.

just in case you all missed when this conversation "suddenly" changed completely lmao

Aha, thanks for the 411.
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xp1337
04/16/18 8:50:23 PM
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Inviso posted...
I feel like "Someone Finally Called Sean Hannity" could've been a good one too.

Did we use "Better Call Sean" before?
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My Immortal
04/16/18 9:00:07 PM
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CelesMyUserName
04/16/18 9:33:20 PM
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Maddow reading the Hannity reveal transcript was such a joy, hot damn it was like reading a storybook
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Reg
04/16/18 10:04:52 PM
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https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/16/17245010/elizabeth-pierce-fraud-charges-bdac-fcc-ajit-pai

I don't have a thinking emoji sarcastic enough for this one
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Corrik
04/16/18 10:25:29 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...

Do you have some poll evidence of this being a GOP catastrophe? Responses to Florida and Texas were widely praised.

Puerto Rico was a major rallying cry from liberals despite the obvious logitistical issues present.

Did the GOP have a large outcry over this?


Moral catastrophe. Not political catastrophe. Im not sure why you are trying to equivocate the two. I was just making a point that there is little the GOP could do to catastrophically lose their base, because their moral catastrophes dont affect anything in the election.

I am not sure I understand what you mean.

I am talking about something that would not make GOP voters want to vote for the GOP in the midterms.

I can't, for example, imagine the GOP voters sitting there snarling "Damn that Donald Trump for fucking that Pornstar. Now I will never vote for the GOP again! Fucking GOP!"
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Jakyl25
04/16/18 10:34:26 PM
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Corrik posted...

I am not sure I understand what you mean.

I am talking about something that would not make GOP voters want to vote for the GOP in the midterms.


Yes, and you used the word catastrophe.

So I mockingly said the last 2 years have been a catastrophe for the GOP

Then we dissected my joke
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Corrik
04/16/18 10:38:43 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...

I am not sure I understand what you mean.

I am talking about something that would not make GOP voters want to vote for the GOP in the midterms.


Yes, and you used the word catastrophe.

So I mockingly said the last 2 years have been a catastrophe for the GOP

Then we dissected my joke

I didn't think you were joking.
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Forceful_Dragon
04/16/18 11:36:01 PM
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His point is despite the many moral catastrophes of Donald Trump there has not been a significant political catastrophe corresponding to them.

His point is that GOP voters have accepted a president utterly lacking in morals.
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Corrik
04/16/18 11:52:23 PM
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
His point is despite the many moral catastrophes of Donald Trump there has not been a significant political catastrophe corresponding to them.

His point is that GOP voters have accepted a president utterly lacking in morals.

He has no point because he is joking. But, whether you think the President is immoral or not has little to do with electing GOP or Democratic congressmen. The Moore election showed that morals do matter.
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BowserCuffs
04/16/18 11:59:23 PM
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Forceful_Dragon posted...
His point is despite the many moral catastrophes of Donald Trump there has not been a significant political catastrophe corresponding to them.

His point is that GOP voters have accepted a president utterly lacking in morals.


Not just a president - an entire party.
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HaRRicH
04/17/18 12:09:27 AM
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In case anybody wants a reminder of what Donald did when he increased his monthly ratings for the first time:

April 2017:
https://us17.campaign-archive.com/?u=40b35ab3e6c83f389457bf3e9&id=6358f44af8

Special thanks to TheRock for correcting me on the Mother of All Bombs and where it went before I sent this out.
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Forceful_Dragon
04/17/18 3:00:01 AM
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Corrik posted...
Forceful_Dragon posted...
His point is despite the many moral catastrophes of Donald Trump there has not been a significant political catastrophe corresponding to them.

His point is that GOP voters have accepted a president utterly lacking in morals.

He has no point because he is joking. But, whether you think the President is immoral or not has little to do with electing GOP or Democratic congressmen. The Moore election showed that morals do matter.


You can have a point to a joke you are making.

The Moore election showed that for a lot of people morals DON'T matter or he would not have been 2% from a seat on the Senate.

Yeah its a deep red state but that's still a condemnable result.
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TheRock1525
04/17/18 3:37:48 AM
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Tangentially related to politics:

http://amp.vulture.com/2018/04/late-night-ratings-early-2018-colbert-fallon.html

Basically, going hard anti-Trump is a ratings bonanza.
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Girugamesh
04/17/18 5:36:58 AM
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The Hannity reveal is just too funny.
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Corrik
04/17/18 6:34:49 AM
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Syria, Hezbollah sources had multiple reports of Israeli bombs. Claimed they shot down all Israeli bombs. Claimed a Israeli fighter broke their airspace and fired at Russians. Then claimed one bomb did hit.

Ironic part?

There was never an attack into Syria. Syria later announced it was a false alarm 'generated due to Israeli/American cyber attack into their radar system" which caused them to activate air defenses.

Glad to hear that Syria basically shot off air defenses and bombed itself while also reporting that they shot down all enemy missiles (again).
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HaRRicH
04/17/18 7:47:04 AM
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4/16/2018
TWITTER - Hunter Walker (Yahoo News)

There were audible gasps and one shout of holy shit when Hannitys name was revealed on the courtroom. I ran outside. Ive emailed Hannity and he has yet to respond.

*BEGINNING OF THREAD*

https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/985958553419698176?s=19


A description of the courtroom in that moment...saw someone else describe it as "everybody laughed."
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LapisLazuli
04/17/18 10:00:20 AM
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I don't think anything in the news has made me smile than the Sean Hannity thing in a long, long time.

I would pay a cool hundred just to see a video of the reaction.
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Corrik
04/17/18 10:45:50 AM
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North Korea and South Korea in beginning of talks to formalize the end of their war. South Korean president credits Trump greatly for starting the process.
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ChaosTonyV4
04/17/18 11:45:30 AM
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Links?
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Suprak the Stud
04/17/18 11:45:55 AM
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Corrik posted...

Glad to hear that Syria basically shot off air defenses and bombed itself while also reporting that they shot down all enemy missiles (again).


Ok this actually did make me laugh out loud.
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Peace___Frog
04/17/18 11:50:29 AM
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https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/986252077109309442

Breaking: Supreme Court invalidates part of federal law requiring mandatory deportation of immigrants convicted of some crimes. For first time, Justice Neil Gorsuch joins with more liberal Justices to produce 5-4 majority -@Arianedevogue reports


Interesting Gorsuch development
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Mr Lasastryke
04/17/18 11:51:42 AM
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BUT GORSUCH (caps)
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Icehawk
04/17/18 11:56:13 AM
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Interestingly, most are saying that is a vote that Scalia would make as well. Eitherway, it's nice to see. It's a vote purely against the vagueness of the law.
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Not_an_Owl
04/17/18 12:04:25 PM
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Peace___Frog posted...
https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/986252077109309442

Breaking: Supreme Court invalidates part of federal law requiring mandatory deportation of immigrants convicted of some crimes. For first time, Justice Neil Gorsuch joins with more liberal Justices to produce 5-4 majority -@Arianedevogue reports


Interesting Gorsuch development

Now expecting a Trump Twitter rant about how he'd never have nominated Gorsuch if he knew he would have been so disloyal and anti-American.
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Suprak the Stud
04/17/18 12:09:52 PM
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Icehawk posted...
Interestingly, most are saying that is a vote that Scalia would make as well. Eitherway, it's nice to see. It's a vote purely against the vagueness of the law.


^
Most actual conservatives are very pro immigration so I doubt this kills their gorsuch boner.
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Corrik
04/17/18 12:32:25 PM
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Regaro
04/17/18 12:51:30 PM
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Suprak the Stud posted...
actual conservatives

All five of them?
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Suprak the Stud
04/17/18 1:03:33 PM
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http://www.businessinsider.com/israeli-intelligence-trump-syria-strike-failed-2018-4

"oh"
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Corrik
04/17/18 1:19:12 PM
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Suprak the Stud posted...
http://www.businessinsider.com/israeli-intelligence-trump-syria-strike-failed-2018-4

"oh"

Duh
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Corrik
04/17/18 1:19:41 PM
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Suprak the Stud posted...
Icehawk posted...
Interestingly, most are saying that is a vote that Scalia would make as well. Eitherway, it's nice to see. It's a vote purely against the vagueness of the law.


^
Most actual conservatives are very pro immigration so I doubt this kills their gorsuch boner.

Pro "legal" immigration. Fixed it for you.
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Suprak the Stud
04/17/18 1:59:36 PM
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There is a large group of Trump's supporters that are against immigration of all kinds.
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Icehawk
04/17/18 2:02:26 PM
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Corrik posted...
Suprak the Stud posted...
Icehawk posted...
Interestingly, most are saying that is a vote that Scalia would make as well. Eitherway, it's nice to see. It's a vote purely against the vagueness of the law.


^
Most actual conservatives are very pro immigration so I doubt this kills their gorsuch boner.

Pro "legal" immigration. Fixed it for you.


The whole reason the DACA deal fell apart is because of their desire to cut legal immigration.
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Suprak the Stud
04/17/18 2:12:19 PM
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Trolling the_donald like I do, there tend to be two large swaths of opinions there regarding immigration. Those that are outspoken about how all immigration is bad and "keep America for Americans, etc" and those that are more sneaky about the way they talk but pretty much want the same sort of thing.

Like what a lot of Trump supporters do (which again, I separate out from conservatives because they really are their own thing), is go "oh, of course I'm for legal immigration but illegal immigration is bad" and then they hammer how bad illegal immigration is over and over.

But then when you look at their policy on legal immigration, or hear them talk about how they want to improve the immigration system, it is by greatly cutting the number of legal immigrants allowed in the country, both in terms of total number and targeting specific "undesirable" population groups.

So they demonize illegal immigration while wanting to undermine legal immigration and thereby drastically shrinking the total number of new immigrants to the country, which is bad for a whole host of reasons.
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Corrik
04/17/18 3:02:37 PM
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Nothing wrong with immigrants that follow the system and take the proper paths to become citizens.

It is the people who do not and try to skirt the system that are the issue.
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Jakyl25
04/17/18 3:22:30 PM
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Corrik posted...
Nothing wrong with immigrants that follow the system and take the proper paths to become citizens.


The point is, if you want to make the system harder for these people, then on some level you are against legal immigration as it is currently defined.
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Corrik
04/17/18 3:27:52 PM
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Jakyl25 posted...
Corrik posted...
Nothing wrong with immigrants that follow the system and take the proper paths to become citizens.


The point is, if you want to make the system harder for these people, then on some level you are against legal immigration as it is currently defined.

I didn't say anything about making it harder. The fact is that regardless or how hard or easy it is, does not change that illegal immigration should have no tolerance.

Only thing I remember was Trump wanted to get rid of the lottery system.

I don't care one bit about any legal immigrants. I care about the illegal ones. Offer Dreamers a pathway and if they do not use it, they had their chance.
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LapisLazuli
04/17/18 3:32:49 PM
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Just deport all the Republicans IMHO, then there will be plenty of room.
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Regaro
04/17/18 3:33:30 PM
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LapisLazuli posted...
Just deport all the Evangelicals IMHO, then there will be plenty of room.

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Forceful_Dragon
04/17/18 3:54:07 PM
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Regaro posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
Just deport all the Radical Evangelicals IMHO, then there will be plenty of room.


There are a lot of people who do a disservice to Christianity by using a message of love to spread a message of hate.

Please do not conflate the message itself with the god awful (heh) messengers.
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