Board 8 > Final Fantasy Record Keeper Topic 37: The GOD Wall arrives!

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UInstinctGogeta
03/25/18 9:06:02 PM
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UInstinctGogeta
03/25/18 9:31:12 PM
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I said fuck it.... you only live once.

And damn it all I literally saved up about FIVE HUNDRED mythril for this one glorious item!!!!

So I decided against all better judgement to use 50 more, just begging for Burglar, or please please please, GOD Wall.

I only got one rainbow. And it was a disco ball. Not feeling good about this.

And it was. Another Aphmau.... well that was anti climatic..... :(

ITS ALSO A LIE!!!!!!!

AFTER HOWEVER MANY MONTHS OF PINING SINCE FIRST HEARING ABOUT IT FROM JAPAN..... GOD WALL!!!!!!!!
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Xuxon
03/25/18 9:34:26 PM
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UInstinctGogeta posted...
So after 150 mythril, I have every Ultra except the 2 I really wanted.... sounds about right.

UInstinctGogeta posted...
Burglar Sword and of course Divine Grimmoire in case it wasn't obvious what the two were.

sorry man. literally that exact thing happened to my brother who just started. he didn't even get Ramza's BSB2, which he wanted because he only really has physical stuff.
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UInstinctGogeta
03/25/18 9:46:54 PM
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Xuxon posted...
UInstinctGogeta posted...
So after 150 mythril, I have every Ultra except the 2 I really wanted.... sounds about right.

UInstinctGogeta posted...
Burglar Sword and of course Divine Grimmoire in case it wasn't obvious what the two were.

sorry man. literally that exact thing happened to my brother who just started. he didn't even get Ramza's BSB2, which he wanted because he only really has physical stuff.


Well, I did end up getting GOD Wall on my next one.

So, question time...

With the exception of Cloud BSB2 which is just never ever gonna happen probably.... the only things I want left in this fest are Burglar Sword, OK Sword, and TCG USB.

Does TCG USB and Burglar Sword ever appear on the same Tactics banner? And if I have OK Staff and LM already, how good is his sword really? Is it worth pulling banner 3?
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Xuxon
03/25/18 9:55:53 PM
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oh, grats. 250 mythril isn't too bad. i think 300 is average to get a particular item, or maybe 350.

UInstinctGogeta posted...
Does TCG USB and Burglar Sword ever appear on the same Tactics banner?

only the banner that already happened. why didn't you pull there? <_<

UInstinctGogeta posted...
And if I have OK Staff and LM already, how good is his sword really? Is it worth pulling banner 3?

well i mean, staff is for magic teams, sword is for physical. if you do more physical than magical, then the sword is great. and since you also want Orlandu USB, which is on there, it could be good, depending on if there's anything else there you want.
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UInstinctGogeta
03/25/18 10:01:33 PM
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Xuxon posted...
oh, grats. 250 mythril isn't too bad. i think 300 is average to get a particular item, or maybe 350.

UInstinctGogeta posted...
Does TCG USB and Burglar Sword ever appear on the same Tactics banner?

only the banner that already happened. why didn't you pull there? <_<

UInstinctGogeta posted...
And if I have OK Staff and LM already, how good is his sword really? Is it worth pulling banner 3?

well i mean, staff is for magic teams, sword is for physical. if you do more physical than magical, then the sword is great. and since you also want Orlandu USB, which is on there, it could be good, depending on if there's anything else there you want.


What's better? His sword, his staff, Burglar Sword, or TCG USB?

I know they are 4 of the absolute most wanted relics out there, I just wonder which of them is the best and why?

As for why I didn't pull on that banner. I did. But I got Ramza BSB2 on like first pull so I kinda was happy with that. And I was saving for God Wall already I think, not sure though.
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Xuxon
03/25/18 10:02:22 PM
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TGC USB is the best of those

the other 3 are all debatable between each other
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UInstinctGogeta
03/25/18 10:03:39 PM
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Xuxon posted...
TGC USB is the best of those

the other 3 are all debatable between each other


Thx.

What's the major difference between OK Sword and Burglar Sword?
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/25/18 10:14:21 PM
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UInstinctGogeta posted...

What's the major difference between OK Sword and Burglar Sword?


Apples and oranges, OK's Ninja USB is shout+crit chance +50% and he gets a growing quickcast, Marche is a diffrent kind of quickcast that refreshes when he uses a knight skill (best part is that they stack together, OK gets almost instant lifesiphons this way!) OK is the better of the two because Knight is limited to mostly just holy and earth, both are still top tier relics though.

Banner 3 is really top heavy, the 6 stars are great, everything else is meh or just plain sucks. May be worth the risk since those are all top tier USBs and Earth chains are rare (though the least neccisary since Ixion's HP and defense are much lower than the other 4* Magicite) but you can also dud pretty hard.

Also Yuffie's USB is apparently the best DPS according to Solitare, still even in Japan.
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Lopen
03/25/18 10:31:38 PM
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So I'm still not sure on which one I want on the sets of three

My options I'm seriously considering are:

I - I already have the shield, but more Holy boosting armor isn't bad to have. FF1 is a rare synergy. Warrior of Light I could see myself using when he gets his classic Fighter dress record.
II - One of two I have 0/3 for. I kinda want the Minwu SSB for the +10 MND since he's my healer of choice and it'd be cool to have a 'complete' character.
VII - I kinda really want that Sephiroth dark boosting katana but I do have the other two which makes this significantly less tempting.
VIII - Other one I have 0/3 for, and in a weak synergy realm. It's a poison boosting 6* Whip. That's pretty cool, kinda. Imagine when poison becomes a viable element! Dreamstage seems like one of the best SSBs too-- could see it being useful for VIII torments.
XIII - I have Lightning's USB, so maybe the burst is good to have here? Thundering Quadstrike spam after USB seems okay though.
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mccheyne
03/25/18 11:04:20 PM
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mccheyne
03/25/18 11:13:36 PM
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100 gemmed Tyro's LMR. I have Ramza's also, so I can start instantly with them in battle, and an instant SG is pretty sweet.

Debating dropping 50 here for OK mUSB or LMR, Ramza BSB2, or God Wall, but I only have 60 mythril right now. I'm sure I can get up to 100 more during the fest, but I already have Marche and Rosa's USB on this banner and I really want to take a shot for TGC's USB.
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eaedwards6400
03/25/18 11:35:47 PM
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What makes it a god wall?
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/25/18 11:57:18 PM
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200% + Defense/Resistance, protectga, shellga and haste. Personally I think it's overrated since in most events these days we're limited to wall/VoF as our RW anyway and everyone's already used to bringing those other 3.

Paladin Cecil is getting a better wall in the future IMO.
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mccheyne
03/26/18 12:21:57 AM
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It's still solid though, in that it could open up a couple slots. Definitely useful as an RW. Like yeah, probably wouldn't use it in magicite (I don't bring Tyro ever), but definitely in event R+ battles and such.
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Kaxon
03/26/18 12:22:04 AM
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Lopen posted...
I - I already have the shield, but more Holy boosting armor isn't bad to have. FF1 is a rare synergy. Warrior of Light I could see myself using when he gets his classic Fighter dress record.
II - One of two I have 0/3 for. I kinda want the Minwu SSB for the +10 MND since he's my healer of choice and it'd be cool to have a 'complete' character.
VII - I kinda really want that Sephiroth dark boosting katana but I do have the other two which makes this significantly less tempting.
VIII - Other one I have 0/3 for, and in a weak synergy realm. It's a poison boosting 6* Whip. That's pretty cool, kinda. Imagine when poison becomes a viable element! Dreamstage seems like one of the best SSBs too-- could see it being useful for VIII torments.
XIII - I have Lightning's USB, so maybe the burst is good to have here? Thundering Quadstrike spam after USB seems okay though.


IMHO go for Lightning's BSB2 if you already have her USB, it's a powerful combo.

Did WOL get a classic wardrobe record in Japan? I would love that, I played FF1 on the NES so I like the red look way more than the blue.
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Xuxon
03/26/18 12:26:41 AM
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fighter/knight is red in every version of FF1. Dissidia is where WoL's design comes from.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/26/18 12:33:23 AM
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Kaxon posted...

Did WOL get a classic wardrobe record in Japan? I would love that, I played FF1 on the NES so I like the red look way more than the blue.


Yep https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/a/a4/FFRK_Warrior_of_Light_Classic_Red_sprites.png/revision/latest?cb=20171214130007

But for some reason Dena will probably delay it because they delayed the FF1 Thief event and they probably don't want 2 FF1 events so close together.
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WhiteLens
03/26/18 12:44:13 AM
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I'm actually considering picking the FFVIII set for the reasons Lopen has said.

I think the only soul break I have that does poison damage is Kefka's BSB. I could really use some more.

And also, DOOMTRAIN
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/26/18 12:48:58 AM
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You guys are aware that poison is only really good against Seifer and the occasional FF4 boss right? Other than that Poison is pretty much worthless since barely anything else is weak to it, more bosses resist it than anything, no poison chain exists either.
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mccheyne
03/26/18 1:23:45 AM
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Said screw it, and tossed 50 mythril at banner 1.

2/11, no discos...

Onion Knight LMR
Ramza BSB2

Sooooo happy with that. Didn't get God Wall or the mUSB, but OK's cape is perfect for magicite, and Ramza's upgrade to Shout is quite solid too. Very helpful.
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eaedwards6400
03/26/18 1:26:32 AM
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Radiant Wings [P. Cecil] (Holy)
Crossover [WoL] (Holy)
Heavens Wrath [Ashe] (Holy)
Stock Break [Beatrix] (Holy)
Sword of the Clear [Beatrix] (Holy)
Highwind [Fang] (Holy/Fire)
Last Resort [Hope] (Holy)
Paladin Force [P. Cecil] (Holy)
White Materia [Aerith] (Holy)
Evanesence [Penelo] (Holy)
Seal of Heaven [Minwu] (Holy)
Break of Valor [Arc] (Holy)
Arc of Light [P. Cecil] [Holy]
Divine Sword [Holy/Dark]
Thunder God [Orlandeu] (Lightning/Holy)
Trinity Slash [Ceodore] (Holy/Lightning)
Manalchemy [Rem] (Dark/Holy)
Swift Blade [Curilla] (Holy)
Warrior Shield [WoL] (Holy)
Explosive Fist [Hope] (Holy)

Ramuh [Garnet] (Lightning)
Maelstrom Bolt [Ashe] (Lightning)
Starshell [Prompto] (Lightning)
Focused Bolt [Lightning] (Lightning)
Kains Pride [Kain] (Lightning)
Thunderfall [Lightning] (Lightning)
Thunder God [Orlandeu] (Lightning/Holy)
Trinity Slash [Ceodore] (Holy/Lightning)
Chaotic Moon [Edge] (Lightning/Water)
Luminous Dragon [Kain] (Lightning)
Ars Archam [Sora] (Fire/Lightning/Ice)
Serpents Gale (Faris) (Wind/Lightning)
Dusk Decree (Ashe) [Lightning)
Play Rough (Shantotto) (Fire/Ice/Lightning)

Chaos Bringer [Garland] (Dark)
Doublecast Decay [Vivi] (Dark)
Dread Dark (Kuja) (Dark)
Power of the Void [ExDeath] (Dark)
Mako Reactor [Rufus] (Dark)
Sorceress's Knight [Seifer] (Dark)
Innocence [Gabranth] (Dark)
Dark Hand Helm Split [Riku] (Dark)
Dark Rebirth [Garland] (Dark)
Force of Will [Vayne] (Dark)
Animas Pain [Seymour] (Dark)
Harness the Fiend (Kefka) (Dark)
Divine Sword (Vayne) [Holy/Dark]
Shattered Dreams [Cid Raines] (Dark )
Manalchemy [Rem] (Dark/Holy)
Aura of Darkness [Riku] (Darkness)
Manalchemy [Rem] (Dark/Holy)
NetharAsura (Marach) (Fire/Dark)
Cross Cleve (Seymour) (Dark)
NeoAlgamast (Ex Death) (Dark)
Dusk Blade (Gafgarion) (Dark)
Transience (Sephiroth) (Dark)

Aeons of Winds and Flames [Braska] (Fire)
Highwind [Fang] (Holy/Fire)
Wandering Flame [Braska] (Fire)
Kassatou Katon [Thancred] (Fire)
Knights Honor [Steiner] (Fire)
Tornado [Auron] (Fire)
Tomorrow's Promise [Krile] (Fire)
Ehocian Fire [Papalyno] (Fire)
Spark of Chane [Balthier] (Fire)
Ars Archam [Sora] (Fire/Lightning/Ice)
Scorching Flames [Terra] (Fire)
585 Cycloteone [Balthier] (Fire)
Alkaid [Auron] (Fire)
Valor Form [Sora] (Fire)
Fire Beam [Terra] (Fire)
NetharAsura (Fire/Dark)
Play Rough (Shantotto) (Fire/Ice/Lightning)

Six Dragons [Freya] (Wind)
Stellar Circle 5 [Zidane] (Wind)
Meteor Shots [Zack] (Wind)
Mega Flare [Fang] (Wind)
Dragons Crest [Freya] (Wind)
Raging Whirlwind [Fang] (Wind)
MeoTwister (Zidane) [Wind]
Into the Storm (Fujin) [Wind]
Big Brawl (Cid) (Wind)
Zan (Fujin) [Wind]
Serpents Gale (Faris) (Wind/Lightning)

Grand Storm [Paine] (Earth/Wind/Water)
Trance Flood (Terra) (Water)
Tides of Fate [Balthier] (Water)
Chaotic Moon [Edge] (Lightning/Water)
Aurochs Reel [Wakka] (Water)
Liquid Steel [Paine] (Water)
Pirates Knives (Leila) (Water)
Grand Storm [Paine] (Earth/Wind/Water)
Blue Soul [Strago] [Water/Earth]

Diamond Dust [Snow] (Ice)
Masters Voice [Umaro] (Ice)
Play Rough (Shantotto) (Fire/Ice/Lightning)

Fang of the Serpent [Thancred] (Poison)
Doublecast Venom [Vivi] (Poison)
Doomtrain [Quistis] (Poison)
Bio Chainsaw (Poison) (Edgar)

Tempest [Gladios] (Earth)
Last Judgement Grimoire [Tyro] (Earth)
Meteor Crusher [Tifa] (Earth)
Seven-Star Heavenly Fist [Yang] (Earth)
Meteor XVI [Maria] (Earth)
Grand Storm [Paine] (Earth/Wind/Water)
Blue Soul [Strago] [Water/Earth]
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eaedwards6400
03/26/18 1:27:54 AM
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All of my soul breaks by element.

Dark, Holy, Fire, Wind, and Lightning I'm pretty good with between Earth/Ice/Water I could use more.

Doesn't really help me decide between 5/X/XI
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HBJDubs
03/26/18 1:41:08 AM
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2/33

Rubicante SSB
Edgar OSB

well that sucked. Still need to draw on the relic set banner and decide on a set. Leaning towards FF1 (no relics, but have a Sarah BSB), FF15 (same, but swap in Iris BSB), or FF5 (beef up Bartz even more).
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Ultimaphazon
03/26/18 2:00:42 AM
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I threw 50 mythril at banner 1, to get some of the discos (except Aphmau, which I have). No discos, but 4 rainbows
- OK cape x2 (this would be amazing if it wasn't a dupe)
- Mog BSB
- Iris BSB

Not what I really wanted, but that's still 2 relics I could see myself using occasionally, so I'm not mad. Mog's a cool character, at least, and while I already have Larsa for Astra, the bubble on Iris BSB is actually worth more HP than his stronger entry.

My 33-pulls (I did both) gave me, if I remember all of it:
Rydia USB, Zidane USB, Aranea BSB, Penelo SSB, Garnet Dagger BSB, Meliadoul BSB, Zeid SSB and Desch BSB (my only dupe in the set)

Those 6*s please me very much. The rest isn't so great, but whatever. I need IV relics, and Rydia is my favorite character in that game. Zidane USB is sweet wind tech, where I'm currently lacking a bit. Gives me an excuse to finally hone that 5* Wind Thief ability.
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Lopen
03/26/18 3:12:54 AM
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SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...
You guys are aware that poison is only really good against Seifer and the occasional FF4 boss right? Other than that Poison is pretty much worthless since barely anything else is weak to it, more bosses resist it than anything, no poison chain exists either.


Yeah I don't really think it's remotely worth having currently but if they ever took another look at poison as an element it would be cool to have it. Will probably get Lightning BSB based on Kaxon saying it's worth using though. I have it down to 2 and that I think. Not sure how good Firion's burst is.
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Girugamesh
03/26/18 3:25:03 AM
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3/11

Tyro LMR
Iris BSB
OK USB

Happy with that, wanted OK USB in particular.
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WhiteLens
03/26/18 3:31:28 AM
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1/11

Onion Knight USB

Not bad I guess. Oddly enough I didnt get a single 4* relic from that. Now that it mattered in like the past 2 years.
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UInstinctGogeta
03/26/18 1:03:57 PM
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One reason I'm so thrilled with God Wall is because it FINALLY lets me get more creative.

I really haven't had any other worthwhile Hastagas ever (which is so weird with how many relics I have) except Shout, Shout clone, Shout 2.0, and OK's VoF. All of which are boosts with haste.

But I have SO MAMY awesome boosts. I have Zack's Chain that at one point everybody wanted, and I hardly get to use it even. Cause no haste.

But NOW.... now Tyro gives me breathing room. I can use my other boosts. Zack's going in my main party now. Hooray.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/26/18 1:35:51 PM
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VoF and Zack's chain's attack boosts stack with each other, not to mention hasteaga is going to be a normal ability soon. You probably should have chased Rikku's USB instead (or Basch's when it comes out since it's a clone.) Since Tyro's bad stats makes people reluctant to use him in magicite.
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UInstinctGogeta
03/26/18 1:39:31 PM
#31:


SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...
VoF and Zack's chain's attack boosts stack with each other, not to mention hasteaga is going to be a normal ability soon. You probably should have chased Rikku's USB instead (or Basch's when it comes out since it's a clone.) Since Tyro's bad stats makes people reluctant to use him in magicite.


Rikku's USB USB protect shell and attack up,
Right?

I mean, to me I was gonna use Wall anyway. So God Wall was definitely the winner. I still save a ton of spots for versatility even on abilities, ignoring finally getting another haste.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/26/18 1:45:40 PM
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And hasteaga and magic boost. And like I said before most current events lock us into Dr. Mog or Elyra's wall/VoF and most of us are gonna pick wall anyway of those two so having native wall has lost a lot of it's appeal.
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Kaxon
03/26/18 4:43:36 PM
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Hyper Mighty G + Fabula Guardian and God Wall + Fabula Raider give you the exact same coverage. So it's kind of a matter of personal taste. Tyro has better ability access and the instant cast LMR so he's definitely a reasonable choice. Personally I like Rikku more though.
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Lopen
03/26/18 6:13:37 PM
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The one other issue Rikku has is somewhat limited access to MND boosting gear so her Hastega might have a shorter duration than you'd like if you don't have any of it

Now me I've been blessed with a Tiny Bee++ so I wouldn't care at all but for some people it can potentially be annoying. Like when I use Minfilia it's definitely noticeable since I don't have any MND boosters for her.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/26/18 7:13:24 PM
#35:


Lopen posted...
The one other issue Rikku has is somewhat limited access to MND boosting gear so her Hastega might have a shorter duration than you'd like if you don't have any of it


Rikku gets a stat buff time extender with her Legend Materia 2, I use her mostly for sub30ing magicite so it's not like that short haste limit matters much to me, if it's going to be a longer fight I wouldn't use Rikku anyway.

Also I prefer her over Tyro in recent stuff because Tyro's offensive stats are terrible, while he can use everything the majority of the time he's a breaker/dancer and now that bosses have 70-80% break resistances I rarely find much use for him now. Only noteworthy things he can really do is allegro con moto with Ninja magic or astra refreshing with his USB1. I know Rikku's not the heaviest hitter but she's a beefcake when compared to Tyro. She's also in the fastest character in the game tier.
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Kaxon
03/26/18 7:19:05 PM
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If I were going to use Tyro I would probably set him up as an entruster. Turn 1 God Wall, them just wrath/entrust. His LMR makes him like a mini-Shelke but with a useful SB of his own.
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Lopen
03/26/18 7:25:02 PM
#37:


Having a fully dived Sazh stat buff time extender doesn't actually affect Haste though to my knowledge. You can actually have haste wear off well before the stat buff does. Usually it doesn't matter but without any MND boosts to speak of it can actually matter since the base duration is 20s + 1 per 50 MND. Rikku's base MND at level 99 is 135, so it can pretty easily taper off towards the end of a magicite battle if you're not super efficient on it and aren't boosting her mind. Granted the weapon mind boost is going to give you 2.5-4 extra seconds tops but yeah it can matter enough to be irritating. I'd definitely usually be using my Tiny Bee++ on her (as I do with Sazh) even if you do pay a bit of an attack fee to do it.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/26/18 7:40:19 PM
#38:


Tyro is pretty slow so even with his LM I don't think he's that good of an entruster, I'd rather just have Shelke use one of her instant casts on RW wall.

And yeah I looked it up that the stat buff LM doesn't extend the haste, but eh, Rikku can hit every weakness except earth, holy and dark so she builds meter from that fast enough to refresh her haste even though I rarely need to refresh it (I think I only need to refresh it against Midgardsormr, and even then I bring Onion Knight anyway.) Even if mind is a problem bring a Unicorn magicite or inherent it's Mind Boon to a frequently used magicite.
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Lopen
03/26/18 8:24:49 PM
#39:


Yeah it's not a huge deal. It does irritate me slightly with Minfilia from time to time though. And Rikku's mind is even lower than hers so I could definitely see it mattering often enough to be a factor to some people-- particularly the ones who haven't optimized the DPS well.
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03/26/18 8:41:25 PM
#40:


I was able to beat CoD but only got an expert
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/26/18 9:07:41 PM
#41:


Which CoD? The Deluge one? That's still pretty good considering she's in magicite 3/4 grey area.

Hooo boy Ozma's here, I think I'll wait until tomorrow after I draw from Banner 2 before I fight him.
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eaedwards6400
03/26/18 10:15:11 PM
#42:


Yeah I got the expert I lost one medal for actions 2 medals for damage. Finished in a minute and 4 seconds.
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Kaxon
03/26/18 11:32:06 PM
#43:


Enimigmatic Orb (Inscrutable) was tough enough. I don't know if I'm going to bother trying Boundless for just 150k gil. There are plenty of other challenging battles available now to try.
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HBJDubs
03/27/18 12:07:21 AM
#44:


Relic set 2/11

Larsa SSB (different from the one I have)
Sabin USB

Game wants me to put Sabin in a fire party
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eaedwards6400
03/27/18 12:16:19 AM
#45:


I beat the Inscrutable version. Expert only but I made mistakes but that was fun.
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Kaxon
03/27/18 1:53:31 AM
#46:


Yeah it was kind of a fun fight because I didn't know what Dr Mog's RW actually did (I still don't exactly know, except it seems to counter the worst stuff the orb throws at you in each stage). But not sure I want to do a much more difficult version of that fight.
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UInstinctGogeta
03/27/18 3:06:42 AM
#47:


Here is a question.

If I got Marche's BSB, does that in anyway help his USB or make you better at all?
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Kaxon
03/27/18 2:30:32 PM
#48:


With the first of the elemental banners starting tonight, how's everyone doing on their elements? For me from best to worst:

1. Water (Tidus CSB/USB, Edge USB, Paine USB) - the only 4* Magicite I can sub-30.
2. Holy (Orlandu USB, WoL CSB, Raines BSB)
3. Lightning (Lightning USB/BSB2/LD, Ashe USB/BSB/LD, Shantotto CSB)
4. Dark (Orlandu USB, Raines BSB, Shadow BSB)
5. Fire (Papalymo BSB)
6. Earth (Orlandu USB, Maria BSB)
7. Wind (just a bunch of BSBs)
8. Ice (mediocre BSBs)
(9. Poison)

I'm hoping tonight will let me sub-30 Kraken (I don't need much, I'm pretty close there) and give me enough to beat Tiamat.

I'm also reconsidering the V banner because it's all in two elements I really need help with, and all that +element gear is tempting.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
03/27/18 4:01:55 PM
#49:


UInstinctGogeta posted...

If I got Marche's BSB, does that in anyway help his USB or make you better at all?


Well the +10 attack for mastering it. Other than that not really, the BSB seems to focus on making Marche a defensive character while the USB makes him a DPS beast. Marche's defenses are low for a paladin and the current meta focuses much more on speedrunning so if you have both the BSB will almost never get used.

Element wise for me

-Water is probably my strongest, Marilis is the only *4 sub30 and when I'm up against a no weakness boss water is usually my pick.
-Wind is my second with Bartz USB and Zack Chain, I can almost sub30 Midgardsormr and I'm hoping the new celerity skill that comes out in two days is the little push that lets me.
-Dark is probably next with Raines BSB + Kuja and Riku USB, no chain through.
-Holy is also really strong thanks to Marche, but he's pretty much carrying the team. I have Orlandeau's OSB and Agrias USB and two r4 assault sabers but I don't think that's going to be enough for Hades.
-Fire is really strong as well, Ace USB, Papalymo BSB&LM, Terra USB+LM, but I can't sub30 Isgebind yet, I need a chain or more level 99 Marilis and King Bombs.
-Ice I have Rinoa's chain and Lulu's USB but not much other than that. I can sub30 Fenrir easy but I don't think I have a chance at Tiamat unless I hit the Squall jackpot tonight.
-Earth I got Dorgann's USB and Bartz, and Marche through it would really help if I had his LM Relic. I'm also hoarding up earth/holy orbs from farming torment Belials in preparation when Earth Saber comes out and Dorgann becomes a earth beast, but since that's a month or two away I still consider myself weak in this element.
-Lighting is my weakest for sure, I've got Lightning's OSB and supers, Orlandeau's OSB and Arnea's OSB and BSB, other than that nothing besides magicite unviable BSBs and Ashe OSB. Bismarck is the *3 magicite I still need luck to sub30. Really hoping for Lightning USB/AOSB tonight.
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UInstinctGogeta
03/27/18 4:04:33 PM
#50:


SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...
UInstinctGogeta posted...

If I got Marche's BSB, does that in anyway help his USB or make you better at all?


Well the +10 attack for mastering it. Other than that not really, the BSB seems to focus on making Marche a defensive character while the USB makes him a DPS beast. Marche's defenses are low for a paladin and the current meta focuses much more on speedrunning so if you have both the BSB will almost never get used.

Element wise for me

-Water is probably my strongest, Marilis is the only *4 sub30 and when I'm up against a no weakness boss water is usually my pick.
-Wind is my second with Bartz USB and Zack Chain, I can almost sub30 Midgardsormr and I'm hoping the new celerity skill that comes out in two days is the little push that lets me.
-Dark is probably next with Raines BSB + Kuja and Riku USB, no chain through.
-Holy is also really strong thanks to Marche, but he's pretty much carrying the team. I have Orlandeau's OSB and Agrias USB and two r4 assault sabers but I don't think that's going to be enough for Hades.
-Fire is really strong as well, Ace USB, Papalymo BSB&LM, Terra USB+LM, but I can't sub30 Isgebind yet, I need a chain or more level 99 Marilis and King Bombs.
-Ice I have Rinoa's chain and Lulu's USB but not much other than that. I can sub30 Fenrir easy but I don't think I have a chance at Tiamat unless I hit the Squall jackpot tonight.
-Earth I got Dorgann's USB and Bartz, and Marche through it would really help if I had his LM Relic. I'm also hoarding up earth/holy orbs from farming torment Belials in preparation when Earth Saber comes out and Dorgann becomes a earth beast, but since that's a month or two away I still consider myself weak in this element.
-Lighting is my weakest for sure, I've got Lightning's OSB and supers, Orlandeau's OSB and Arnea's OSB and BSB, other than that nothing besides magicite unviable BSBs and Ashe OSB. Bismarck is the *3 magicite I still need luck to sub30. Really hoping for Lightning USB/AOSB tonight.
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