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The Mana Sword
03/08/18 8:00:36 PM
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Wizards fucked up, a bunch of Dominaria was spoiled. They accidentally posted release noted in Chinese, then decided to just give them in English because it was too late.

http://media.wizards.com/2018/downloads/DOM_Release_Notes/EN_MTGDOM_ReleaseNotes.docx

Set seems weird.
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My Immortal
03/08/18 8:22:41 PM
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Oh fuck

I read the Planeswalkers but I don't think I can bring myself to read it all.

Wtf Wizards
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MoogleKupo141
03/08/18 8:38:34 PM
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oh wow this leak is... wow

Some cool stuff in here. Great goblin reprints.
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The Mana Sword
03/08/18 11:11:19 PM
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After looking everything over again Im starting to come around on the set. The mechanics are a little dopey and Im not interested in all the EDH bait legends, but it does hit the nostalgia well. Im pretty into Teferis card too.
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trdl23
03/08/18 11:39:30 PM
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I'm more interested in how the fuck Teferi became a Planeswalker again.

I'm actually pumped about this set. Hitting all those delicious nostalgia buttons, and the mechanics are weird but pretty cool.
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Lopen
03/08/18 11:40:20 PM
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Any set that goes hard on legends tends to be a set I like

Doubly so if Jaya Ballard appears
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trdl23
03/08/18 11:40:59 PM
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Oh man, this means we get more Jaya Ballard flavor text.
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MoogleKupo141
03/09/18 12:02:35 AM
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it takes up less space on the card

it's a change with no actual downside
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MoogleKupo141
03/09/18 12:10:24 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
it takes up less space on the card

it's a change with no actual downside

Alienating your very large core base to appease an extremist radical minority of idiots is a pretty big downside.


no one who isn't a completely ridiculous human being would be alienated by this
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trdl23
03/09/18 12:20:31 AM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
it takes up less space on the card

it's a change with no actual downside

I've been pushing for this for a while now. This un-clutters the card space a lot.
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HeroDelTiempo17
03/09/18 12:21:49 AM
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This set looks sweeeeet
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banananor
03/09/18 2:33:54 AM
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Legendary sorceries seem kind of dumb.
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pjbasis
03/09/18 2:42:15 AM
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GildedFool
03/09/18 2:53:02 AM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
trdl23 posted...
I've been pushing for this for a while now. This un-clutters the card space a lot.

"They" is not a singular word regardless of what your politics are.

I saw a person die on a really dumb hill once, they didn't look good doing it.

Hey look, it's a grammatically accurate use of they as a singular pronoun. "The word they (with its counterparts them, their, and themselves) as a singular pronoun to refer to a person of unspecified gender has been used since at least the 16th century."
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GildedFool
03/09/18 3:43:10 AM
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You are demonstrating that last point admirably.
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The Mana Sword
03/09/18 5:38:00 AM
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Any target is a bit weird now, but Ill get used to it and I think its worth it to get rid of the planeswalker redirection rule.
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GildedFool
03/09/18 6:16:16 AM
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The issue I have with any target is that an artifact or an enchantment can be targetted, but isn't part of "any target".

It's an odd quirk.
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trdl23
03/09/18 8:39:28 AM
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As long as they keep it to damaging spells, I think it will be OK just through intuition.
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The Mana Sword
03/09/18 8:51:05 AM
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Yeah, its likely just direct damage cards that previously targeted a creature or player. Theyre only errataing 700 cards for it, so I doubt its much more than that.
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Sceptilesolar
03/09/18 8:52:42 AM
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It's the best solution barring a time machine. I think the correct solution when walkers came out was just to say that anything that did damage to a target creature or player could also do it to a walker, but way too late for that now.
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The Mana Sword
03/09/18 9:09:53 AM
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so where does this rank on the list of top unintentional set leaks

probably top 3 along with judgment and new phyrexia?

could probably make a cast for conflux, although that was just card names.
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Shadow Dino
03/09/18 9:58:05 AM
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And after they did a decent job keeping Masters 25 under wraps, THIS happens. It's utterly hilarious.
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BlackDra90n
03/09/18 10:37:11 AM
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Oh wow that's a huge leak. Looked up the planeswalkers but I'll save the rest for later.
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My Immortal
03/09/18 12:43:55 PM
#28:


Design cards of the Top 8 are out.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/great-designer-search-3-meet-top-8-2018-03-09

I've only read Alex Werner's so far but I did not like them. Whoever it was here that was in the Top 100 (that I forgot) were much better than his.
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My Immortal
03/09/18 12:48:04 PM
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I guess I just don't know what they were looking for.

A lot of these seem either sub-par or needless complicated to me.
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Sceptilesolar
03/09/18 12:50:44 PM
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I thought there were a few designs I saw that I disliked enough to have immediately eliminated that person if I were judging them. Haven't had a look at the majority, but I do have to question the judging in some respects.

Though Alex Werner's skewed my opinion. He had a super confusing planeswalker, and a creature with an ETB 'discard a card at random' except spelled out terribly.
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My Immortal
03/09/18 12:51:55 PM
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Sceptilesolar posted...
I thought there were a few designs I saw that I disliked enough to have immediately eliminated that person if I were judging them. Haven't had a look at the majority, but I do have to question the judging in some respects.

Yeah, everyone I've read so far has at least one or two good ones, but also have a lot that just left me going what
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Sceptilesolar
03/09/18 1:16:38 PM
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Looked through all of them now. The 8th person, Scott Wilson, seems to have the best cards overall, plus a perfect MC score? I'd guess him to be the most likely winner.
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VintageGin
03/10/18 6:39:59 AM
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Sceptilesolar posted...
I thought there were a few designs I saw that I disliked enough to have immediately eliminated that person if I were judging them. Haven't had a look at the majority, but I do have to question the judging in some respects.

Though Alex Werner's skewed my opinion. He had a super confusing planeswalker, and a creature with an ETB 'discard a card at random' except spelled out terribly.


Yeah, what the hell is this:

Naila and Hrun, Fused (mythic rare)
2GGWW
Planeswalker Naila-and-Hrun
2
+2: Find the lowest number greater than zero such that you control no creatures with that power. Create a green and white elemental creature token with power and toughness equal to that number. Then repeat this process.
-X: You may choose a Naila planeswalker card and a Hrun planeswalker card you own from outside the game. If you choose both, and their combined converted mana cost is X or less, put them onto the battlefield, then sacrifice CARDNAME.


Although to be fair, the ETB effect you mentioned isn't the same as random discard-- it's quite different, in fact.
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Sceptilesolar
03/10/18 7:10:47 AM
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Yeah it took me ages to read that other card correctly. I didn't see that you reveal the cards. I don't know about how printable it is still but I acknowledge that the minigame seems fun.
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Sceptilesolar
03/10/18 7:50:36 AM
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It's kind of weird. That checklist card is probably unprintable in black border, but I could see the idea getting proposed in a design meeting or something and getting eventually shot down. But based on Maro's article on this contest, I really got the feeling they weren't looking for people to break the mold like that so much. I'm really a little dubious about the judging process and whether they were playing by their own rules.
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Sceptilesolar
03/10/18 8:09:28 AM
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Land Tax is not really the kind of card they print anymore, since it's repeatable card advantage in white, whereas there has been one near-identical recosting of Mana Drain already as well as a few riffs on the idea, so I don't think that one was all that controversial. I don't know why that Play Design question was included.
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HeroDelTiempo17
03/10/18 10:09:51 AM
#41:


Ok this actual design is fine but

Bought the Farm (uncommon)
1GW
Enchantment Aura
Enchant land you control
When CARDNAME enters the battlefield, exile target creature an opponent controls until CARDNAME leaves the battlefield.
Enchanted land has T: Add GW to your mana pool.


This is an Oblivion Ring that ramps! Busted.
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Sceptilesolar
03/10/18 10:18:17 AM
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I think you'll find that it is in fact a Journey to Nowhere that ramps.

/the best kind of correct
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banananor
03/10/18 10:18:46 AM
#43:


I'm starting to think we have a brine elemental in this topic

I really like a lot of the designs I've seen so far- Zyym, Mesmeric Lord or friendly treefolk is probably my favorite
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trdl23
03/10/18 3:55:51 PM
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A lot of these cards are seriously hot garbage -- even from just a templating standpoint.

Moogs got fucking robbed.
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trdl23
03/11/18 5:35:43 PM
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Up
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The Mana Sword
03/12/18 10:53:51 AM
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Sceptilesolar
03/12/18 11:07:55 AM
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Yeah I don't like the look of them either. The art feels narrow and constrained to the point that it almost would be an improvement to just take it away entirely.
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The Mana Sword
03/12/18 11:10:11 AM
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I don't really understand why they needed a custom frame to begin with. They're not that text-heavy.
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trdl23
03/12/18 11:23:31 AM
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I would guess its to make it so you can slide the token down as the saga continues.

Its still silly since were all just going to use a die to represent each counter anyway.
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My Immortal
03/12/18 11:43:51 AM
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I actually really like the art, I just with the picture & the text were on the opposite sides.
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