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CiIantro
02/07/18 1:48:23 AM
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That shit is tinfoil hat-level crazy.
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Phantom_Nook
02/07/18 1:50:55 AM
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Fox News sheep do.
Which includes the President.
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darkjedilink
02/07/18 1:51:24 AM
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The concept of the "deep state" has been around since before World War 2, and depending on how you define it, it's most certainly a thing.
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LavarNeedsHelp
02/07/18 1:52:08 AM
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If you don't believe in Deep state you are very gullible.
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Anteaterking
02/07/18 1:52:43 AM
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There are people who have spent most of their adult lives working jobs in the state department, intelligence, etc. who are not elected.

The leap is taking that to "They're the real power behind everything that happens".
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Webmaster4531
02/07/18 1:53:27 AM
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LavarNeedsHelp posted...
If you believe in Deep state you are very gullible.

FTFY

I'd use harsher language though.
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RebelElite791
02/07/18 1:53:28 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
The concept of the "deep state" has been around since before World War 2, and depending on how you define it, it's most certainly a thing.

Deep state was defined in 2014 by Mike Lofgren, a former Republican U.S. congressional aide
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pkmnlord
02/07/18 1:53:37 AM
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LavarNeedsHelp
02/07/18 1:54:30 AM
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FOLLOW THE MONEY

That's all I will say.
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CiIantro
02/07/18 1:54:53 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
The concept of the "deep state" has been around since before World War 2, and depending on how you define it, it's most certainly a thing.

Its present-day usage refers to a secret cabal plotting to overthrow Trump and seize control of the country.
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_BlueMonk
02/07/18 1:55:01 AM
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no cuz its dumb.

lizardmen, however, THATS JUST TRUE!
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thronedfire2
02/07/18 1:55:39 AM
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I mean, it seems too crazy to believe.

..but that's exactly what they'd want you to think, isn't it?
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creativerealms
02/07/18 1:55:39 AM
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Too many republicans.
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Axiom
02/07/18 1:55:48 AM
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The election taught me that Trump supporters are extremely gullible and will promote/believe the wildest conspiracies if it benefits their defense of him
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darkjedilink
02/07/18 1:56:29 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The concept of the "deep state" has been around since before World War 2, and depending on how you define it, it's most certainly a thing.

Deep state was defined in 2014 by Mike Lofgren, a former Republican U.S. congressional aide

Eisenhower talked about the "military-industrial complex" and how much power it wielded behind the scenes before and during his Presidency.
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Webmaster4531
02/07/18 1:57:05 AM
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LavarNeedsHelp posted...
FOLLOW THE MONEY

That's all I will say.

We're buying useless tanks that the armed forces don't want...

Hillary has a sex dungeon under a pizzeria!
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RebelElite791
02/07/18 1:57:27 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The concept of the "deep state" has been around since before World War 2, and depending on how you define it, it's most certainly a thing.

Deep state was defined in 2014 by Mike Lofgren, a former Republican U.S. congressional aide

Eisenhower talked about the "military-industrial complex" and how much power it wielded behind the scenes before and during his Presidency.

The MIC and "deep state" are not the same thing, but I'm glad you just went to the same Wiki article that I quoted that from to pull that from your ass.

You realize Eisenhower was president after WWII right? Lol
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Vyrulisse
02/07/18 1:58:15 AM
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It's cute you think transient Politicians actually wield the true power in this world.
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darkjedilink
02/07/18 1:58:25 AM
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Anteaterking posted...
There are people who have spent most of their adult lives working jobs in the state department, intelligence, etc. who are not elected.

Beyond that, a lot of these people seem to have far too much money to be made just from their government salary

The leap is taking that to "They're the real power behind everything that happens".

Yeah. They have too much power, but not anywhere near the kind the "deep state" people are claiming.
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RebelElite791
02/07/18 1:59:01 AM
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Watching Vy's gradual descent into Trumpian tinfoil madness over the past couple years has truly been fascinating to behold.
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darkjedilink
02/07/18 1:59:20 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The concept of the "deep state" has been around since before World War 2, and depending on how you define it, it's most certainly a thing.

Deep state was defined in 2014 by Mike Lofgren, a former Republican U.S. congressional aide

Eisenhower talked about the "military-industrial complex" and how much power it wielded behind the scenes before and during his Presidency.

The MIC and "deep state" are not the same thing, but I'm glad you just went to the same Wiki article that I quoted that from to pull that from your ass.

You realize Eisenhower was president after WWII right? Lol

You realize Eisenhower was a high-ranking General during WW2, and therefore would still have connections to what he referred to as the MIC?

And they most certainly are the same thing.
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thronedfire2
02/07/18 1:59:22 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
The concept of the "deep state" has been around since before World War 2, and depending on how you define it, it's most certainly a thing.

Deep state was defined in 2014 by Mike Lofgren, a former Republican U.S. congressional aide


that's when the term was copyrighted so someone could make money off it, maybe

the concept has been around much longer
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LavarNeedsHelp
02/07/18 2:01:03 AM
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darkjedilink posted...
Yeah. They have too much power, but not anywhere near the kind the "deep state" people are claiming.

Yeah.

I mean its no way the CIA is spying and listening to all our phone calls and seeing everything we do online.

Get a clue people, lol.

Its not like nearly everyone one of has some kinda connection to a satellite that pinpoints our exact location.

Get a clue people, lol.

Its not like they have enough money to intercept every communication wave we can think of.

I mean reeeeeeeeeeally???

lol right
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Webmaster4531
02/07/18 2:04:08 AM
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LavarNeedsHelp posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Yeah. They have too much power, but not anywhere near the kind the "deep state" people are claiming.

Yeah.

I mean its no way the CIA is spying and listening to all our phone calls and seeing everything we do online.

Get a clue people, lol.

Its not like nearly everyone one of has some kinda connection to a satellite that pinpoints our exact location.

Get a clue people, lol.

Its not like they have enough money to intercept every communication wave we can think of.

I mean reeeeeeeeeeally???

lol right

Republicans love all those things. The patriot act was their baby.
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Pitlord_Special
02/07/18 2:07:47 AM
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People find comfort in the thought that someone (anyone) has to be in control rather than the uncomfortable alternative that nobody has true power and that the collective course of humanity is guided by memes bubbling out of the chaos
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AmonAmarth
02/07/18 2:10:00 AM
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I think what Trump means by deep state, he means "Eastern Establishment".

Eisenhower was a moderate type, compared to Rockefellers,
but he also opposed the Macarther type who wanted to nuke Russia, China, NK.

(he excludes the MIC, who Kennedy and Eisenhower warned against, he also excludes Zionists).
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Vyrulisse
02/07/18 2:10:20 AM
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RebelElite791 posted...
Watching Vy's gradual descent into Trumpian tinfoil madness over the past couple years has truly been fascinating to behold.

Trump is a moron. I've always held a great suspicion of Government. The corruption is in plain sight. Politicans are bought and paid for and the people who dole out the cash wield the real influence in this world... it's always been that way throughout history.

Those with real wealth call the shots. Dunno what's so shocking about that.
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AmonAmarth
02/07/18 2:13:19 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
Trump is a moron. I've always held a great suspicion of Government. The corruption is in plain sight. Politicans are bought and paid for and the people who dole out the cash wield the real influence in this world... it's always been that way throughout history.

Those with real wealth call the shots. Dunno what's so shocking about that.


some people refuse to let go of Democrat/Republican.
so they bash their opponents as tinfoil Trump or tinfoil Obama.
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ehhwhatever
02/07/18 2:31:20 AM
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Look at Hollywood and how it kept *secret the sexual parasitism going on. Hollywood doesn't want to lose it's power. You can bet your life celebrities hire private detectives to spook on people and harass them.
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Newhopes
02/07/18 3:18:52 AM
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Deep state isn't some mystical beast, it's just unelected officials that hold positions of power.

It's not even a hard concept to grasp.....
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SuperShake666
02/07/18 3:43:43 AM
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http://error1355.com/img/conspiracy.jpg
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Newhopes
02/07/18 3:46:06 AM
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SuperShake666 posted...
http://error1355.com/img/conspiracy.jpg


After the memos you still think the deep state is a conspiracy, I know some people are sheep but jeez.
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Webmaster4531
02/07/18 4:02:11 AM
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Newhopes posted...
SuperShake666 posted...
http://error1355.com/img/conspiracy.jpg


After the memos you still think the deep state is a conspiracy, I know some people are sheep but jeez.

The memos that are a public joke? You know just because something was classified and declassified doesn't mean it's true?
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Newhopes
02/07/18 4:20:28 AM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Newhopes posted...
SuperShake666 posted...
http://error1355.com/img/conspiracy.jpg


After the memos you still think the deep state is a conspiracy, I know some people are sheep but jeez.

The memos that are a public joke? You know just because something was classified and declassified doesn't mean it's true?


You mean the memos that show corruption in the FBI and possibly the Obama administration?
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Mister_Spyker
02/07/18 5:56:22 AM
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I believe that presidents are puppets and there's a secret society, probably related to something occult, that is calling the shots and driving the world wherever they want to drive it.
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Chicken
02/07/18 6:06:53 AM
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Deep state is when you eat ass right?
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Rad_Chad
02/07/18 6:09:30 AM
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The federal reserve happened...
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JE19426
02/07/18 6:11:03 AM
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Rad_Chad posted...
The federal reserve happened...


Ok. Not sure what it has to do with this topic but it happened.
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creativerealms
02/07/18 9:17:36 PM
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Newhopes posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Newhopes posted...
SuperShake666 posted...
http://error1355.com/img/conspiracy.jpg


After the memos you still think the deep state is a conspiracy, I know some people are sheep but jeez.

The memos that are a public joke? You know just because something was classified and declassified doesn't mean it's true?


You mean the memos that show corruption in the FBI and possibly the Obama administration?

Only they didn't
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RebelElite791
02/07/18 9:18:53 PM
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Mister_Spyker posted...
I believe that presidents are puppets and there's a secret society, probably related to something occult, that is calling the shots and driving the world wherever they want to drive it.

Lmao
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Webmaster4531
02/08/18 12:35:40 AM
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Newhopes posted...
You mean the memos that show corruption in the FBI and possibly the Obama administration?

Webmaster4531 posted...
Just because something was classified and declassified doesn't mean it's true.

Guess you don't know that.
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Dark_SilverX
02/08/18 11:24:15 AM
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I believe in it. The USA is severely corrupted from within, so I believe there is going to be an economic crash in the near future.
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HydraSlayer82
02/08/18 11:53:26 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
Watching Vy's gradual descent into Trumpian tinfoil madness over the past couple years has truly been fascinating to behold.

Trump is a moron. I've always held a great suspicion of Government. The corruption is in plain sight. Politicans are bought and paid for and the people who dole out the cash wield the real influence in this world... it's always been that way throughout history.

Those with real wealth call the shots. Dunno what's so shocking about that.

See, this is what I think of when people say deep state, not the garbage that Trump spews. Its the money from the unelected and the policy they influence. Think donor class, the politicians are just the front men that take the fall for the crap they pass.
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Doom_Art
02/08/18 11:58:30 AM
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@AmonAmarth posted...
I think what Trump means by deep state, he means "Eastern Establishment".

Based on....?
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Webmaster4531
02/08/18 12:08:11 PM
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HydraSlayer82 posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
RebelElite791 posted...
Watching Vy's gradual descent into Trumpian tinfoil madness over the past couple years has truly been fascinating to behold.

Trump is a moron. I've always held a great suspicion of Government. The corruption is in plain sight. Politicans are bought and paid for and the people who dole out the cash wield the real influence in this world... it's always been that way throughout history.

Those with real wealth call the shots. Dunno what's so shocking about that.

See, this is what I think of when people say deep state, not the garbage that Trump spews. Its the money from the unelected and the policy they influence. Think donor class, the politicians are just the front men that take the fall for the crap they pass.

The Republicans made that legal which is the worst part.
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AmonAmarth
02/08/18 6:46:53 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
@AmonAmarth posted...
I think what Trump means by deep state, he means "Eastern Establishment".

Based on....?


im not saying its true (im not part of the elite) its just the feeling I get. the Eastern Eastblishement
has lots of influence in the US. The Rockefeller family (the richest one recently died) and I think some other factions took this as an oppurtunity to try and "change" things.
The CFR picks for presidency were definetly H. Clinton and J. Bush.\

look who supports Trump in the establishment, its part of the MIComplex (think of Macurther who wanted to bomb NK).
Some aid from Zionist and possibly Russian sources. Also some John Birch people like Alex Jones were supporting him, at least early on.
I dont see much classical establishment supporting him. Mccain, Bushes, Clintons, etc seem to have vocally opposed him at various points.
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