Current Events > It's really fucking sad when you look back at Rockstar two gens ago

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Like, they made so many fucking sleeper hits outside of GTA. Shit like Manhunt, The Warriors, Red Dead Revolver, Midnight Club

Now you come to this gen, and they legit have ONLY focused on GTA Online. There's a good chance there going to go this entire generation and only release a single new game with Red Dead Redemption 2.
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but they made that gta 5 port that has first person mode and higher graphics settings
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Good point. I'm sure that they're just focused on maximizing the dollars they can get from GTA for now. Hard to argue with that
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It makes me sad that I'm like the only person I know that remembers Body Harvest. Literally the precursor to GTA
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I replayed The Warriors recently and like I honestly forgot how fucking good some of their lesser known shit really was as far as building atmosphere went.
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voldothegr8 posted...

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They probably make more money selling shark cards than they ever did releasing other games.
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But Red Dead 2
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A lot of their stuff back then was pretty mediocre though. Manhunt and State of Emergency weren't really that good. I always liked Burnout more than Midnight Club too.

There was this weird jankiness to most of their games back then. People tolerated it in GTA because of the scope of those games but their other games often suffered.

Bully and The Warriors were fun though. But tbh the only thing I actually miss is Max Payne.
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gnomefromnome posted...

But Red Dead 2

Railroad Bonds Redemption 2
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video games are really expensive to make
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Manhunt was fucking great.

Fight me.
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Darmik posted...

There was this weird jankiness to most of their games back then.

There was a weird jankiness to most games back then.

I feel like people have really forgotten the PS2 era. Most games were not as polished as MGS2.

Also GTA San Andreas is far less janky than GTA IV and GTA V.
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Manhunt was only memorable because it had violent stealth kills and some neat enemy designs. As an actual stealth game it wasn't good.

It came out a year after Splinter Cell. Two years after MGS2. It's like a generation behind both of these games.
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Darmik posted...

Manhunt was only memorable because it had violent stealth kills and some neat enemy designs. As an actual stealth game it wasn't good.

It came out a year after Splinter Cell. Two years after MGS2. It's like a generation behind both of these games.

Manhunt wasn't trying to be a fucking military stealth game, though. It's trying to be closer to a horror experience.

And yeah, it's atmosphere is a huge reason why it's so great.
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All that matters to rockstar is selling shark cards, there is little to no effort required to make a lot of profit off them.
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voldothegr8 posted...

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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Darmik posted...

There was this weird jankiness to most of their games back then.

There was a weird jankiness to most games back then.

I feel like people have really forgotten the PS2 era. Most games were not as polished as MGS2.

Also GTA San Andreas is far less janky than GTA IV and GTA V.

I remember the PS2 gen. There were a lot of janky games back then yes. And Rockstar was one of those developers who would release them. GTA was their standout franchise and the rest of their stuff was pretty mid-tier at best. Max Payne was the other exception but that was from Remedy.

AlecSkorpio posted...

Darmik posted...

Manhunt was only memorable because it had violent stealth kills and some neat enemy designs. As an actual stealth game it wasn't good.

It came out a year after Splinter Cell. Two years after MGS2. It's like a generation behind both of these games.

Manhunt wasn't trying to be a fucking military stealth game, though. It's trying to be closer to a horror experience.

And yeah, it's atmosphere is a huge reason why it's so great.

It's not about being a military game. It was an ugly ass game with bad controls.
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I don't particularly remember Manhunt having bad controls, although it was butt ugly.

Yeah I love manhunt but it is definitely low tier.
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That's the trend for most companies nowadays. New titles come out much slower and instead they focus on DLC and patches for the stuff that is out with new content coming more sparingly and original content even more so.
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Xelltrix posted...

That's the trend for most companies nowadays. New titles come out much slower and instead they focus on microtransactions and lootboxes

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This is why gaming sucks today.

Youngster_Joey_ posted...

This is why gaming sucks today.

Yeah, gaming sucks. 1992 was the best.

/s
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Someone please remember body harvest with me
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JustMonika posted...

Xelltrix posted...

That's the trend for most companies nowadays. New titles come out much slower and instead they focus on microtransactions and lootboxes

Depends on the company and gametype, I'm not aware of microtransactions in Rockstar and definitely not lootboxes. Can't really geta way with those as much when it's single player so they shift to DLCs. Some are pathetic, like the Witch's Hunt in Dragon Age: Origins, but some are good.

I miss expansion packs :|
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Ubisoft was really damn good that generation
- Splinter Cell trilogy
- Prince of Persia trilogy
- Rainbow Six 3
- Ghost Recon
- Deathrow

All in the space of like 5 years.
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God damnit
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Bully was the shit. They need a sequel.
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pretty sure LA Noire and Max Payne 3 were pretty big flops for them.

AAA gaming is a risky business, can't blame them for focusing on the cash cows.
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Manhunt was only notable to me for how it pushed boundaries for game violence at the time. I didn't find it particularly fun to play.
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Darmik posted...

Ubisoft was really damn good that generation
- Splinter Cell trilogy
- Prince of Persia trilogy
- Rainbow Six 3
- Ghost Recon
- Deathrow

Honestly Ubisoft isnt even that bad still. They still publish some solid games. They just fuck up on the little things alot
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