Poll of the Day > So the sex harassment phase was just a plot or remove Trump

(+) Yeah! (+)

It al makes sense now. It was a domino effect, raise tensions about sexual misconduct in an effort to inevitably dethrone Trump via an appeal to emotion, using Trumps sketchy known behavior with women to launch a brigade of allegations at him at once.

The liberals in Hollywood intentionally sacrificed aging actors to build credeiblity, which is probably why as I noted, none of the alleged perpetrators were under the age of 35.

you do realize that after the libs let bill 'the rapist' clinton off for lying under oath, molesting interns, and getting his dick sucked in the oval office, this means absolutely nothing right? short of pulling someone onto the whitehouse lawn and beating them to death on live TV, no president will ever be impeached.
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You certainly are a collection of opinions
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Troll_Police_ posted...

you do realize that after the libs let bill 'the rapist' clinton off for lying under oath, molesting interns, and getting his dick sucked in the oval office, this means absolutely nothing right? short of pulling someone onto the whitehouse lawn and beating them to death on live TV, no president will ever be impeached.

I believe that's part of his groundswell argument, to get people to take it seriously when feminists were the first defenders of Bill Clinton.
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This all started with Bill Cosby in 2015, back when Trump was still a joke candidate.

Questionmarktarius posted...

This all started with Bill Cosby in 2015, back when Trump was still a joke candidate.

The long con! However, keep in mind that even in 2015 that "joke candidate" was polling higher than all the Republicans.
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I don't think that was the goal. It definitely is now, but it wasn't originally.
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Zeus posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

This all started with Bill Cosby in 2015, back when Trump was still a joke candidate.

The long con! However, keep in mind that even in 2015 that "joke candidate" was polling higher than all the Republicans.

zeus, dude... trump doesn't need you to keep defending him. he already won the election
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OmegaTomHank posted...

The liberals in Hollywood intentionally sacrificed aging actors to build credeiblity, which is probably why as I noted, none of the alleged perpetrators were under the age of 35.

You noted incorrectly. Ed Westwick is only 30. Melanie Martinez is a mere 22.

Industries are full of older people in positions of power. Hollywood and politics are no different. Yes, most people accused are older than 35. What an arbitrary number. Not even half of the average lifespan. Not even really middle aged these days. And certainly would be young for someone with any pull behind the scenes. Also fairly young for an actor.

Most of these accusations aren't new. Now people are listening.
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also harvey weinstein, whose accusations kicked off all of the other ones, was a notable film producer, which meant he had access to a wide array of people in the industry, mostly young actresses. it's not that hard to see what's going on
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Nightengale posted...

also harvey weinstein, whose accusations kicked off all of the other ones, was a notable film producer, which meant he had access to a wide array of people in the industry, mostly young actresses. it's not that hard to see what's going on

Also?
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yes
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Normally also is used to continue/further a point
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Nightengale posted...

Zeus posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

This all started with Bill Cosby in 2015, back when Trump was still a joke candidate.

The long con! However, keep in mind that even in 2015 that "joke candidate" was polling higher than all the Republicans.

zeus, dude... trump doesn't need you to keep defending him. he already won the election

I'm pointing out facts. Truth doesn't take a vacation, no matter who's in the White House.

Nightengale posted...

also harvey weinstein, whose accusations kicked off all of the other ones, was a notable film producer, which meant he had access to a wide array of people in the industry, mostly young actresses. it's not that hard to see what's going on

Not sure what you're driving at, so it's a little hard. Doubly so since Weinstein wasn't unique in having access to people.
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Nightengale posted...

Zeus posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

This all started with Bill Cosby in 2015, back when Trump was still a joke candidate.

The long con! However, keep in mind that even in 2015 that "joke candidate" was polling higher than all the Republicans.

zeus, dude... trump doesn't need you to keep defending him. he already won the election

Just telling you man he was rocking the charts, huge numbers, it was tremendous

I can't even find this thread funny since people actually think this.

SmokeMassTree posted...

I don't think that was the goal. It definitely is now, but it wasn't originally.

This, just as you strike at random oppurtunity, so does your enemy. It is the long plan thats easiest to defeat, and it relies on a long chain of events to run in just the right way.
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*scratches head*
the access hollywood tape & accusation stuff came out way before Trump got into office
Trump himself is pretty overt about things like that
2016 came and gone, and what happened happened
so people were implicitly ok with all of that stuff

it's pretty hard to see that the current phase as a plot to remove Trump
it's barely effective in slowing Roy Moore

as a lib I don't any of us who think these 'plots' would work
his supports are basically ok with a lot of terrible things

Gumbotron posted...

*scratches head*
the access hollywood tape & accusation stuff came out way before Trump got into office
Trump himself is pretty overt about things like that
2016 came and gone, and what happened happened
so people were implicitly ok with all of that stuff

it's pretty hard to see that the current phase as a plot to remove Trump
it's barely effective in slowing Roy Moore

as a lib I don't any of us who think these 'plots' would work
his supports are basically ok with a lot of terrible things

Plot?

The shit is real.

But the reason Democrats are making deal of it isn't to get him out of office. For at least some of them it is real concern and disgust with the behavior, but the other is the long game. Independent voters are more likely to be on their side of the issue than on Trumps side. Pointing out republicans as the party of sexual assaulters and child predators isn't going to hurt them because republicans have spectacularly failed at standing against the issue.

If ya cant use money and power for sex, than what's the point???
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BlackScythe0 posted...

Plot?

The shit is real.

But the reason Democrats are making deal of it isn't to get him out of office. For at least some of them it is real concern and disgust with the behavior, but the other is the long game. Independent voters are more likely to be on their side of the issue than on Trumps side. Pointing out republicans as the party of sexual assaulters and child predators isn't going to hurt them because republicans have spectacularly failed at standing against the issue.

That sounds like less of a long game and more of a natural consequence of the Republican party being okay with molesters.
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Troll_Police_ posted...

you do realize that after the libs let bill 'the rapist' clinton off for lying under oath, molesting interns, and getting his dick sucked in the oval office, this means absolutely nothing right? short of pulling someone onto the whitehouse lawn and beating them to death on live TV, no president will ever be impeached.

You do realize that Clinton WAS, in fact, impeached, right? Being impeached doesn't mean you get removed from office. He's actually the second president to be impeached. Andrew Johnson was the first.
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Troll_Police_ posted...

you do realize that after the libs let bill 'the rapist' clinton off for lying under oath, molesting interns, and getting his dick sucked in the oval office, this means absolutely nothing right?

It's almost like social attitudes toward sexual harassment and assault have changed in nearly two decades. Wow!
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reason posted...

Troll_Police_ posted...

you do realize that after the libs let bill 'the rapist' clinton off for lying under oath, molesting interns, and getting his dick sucked in the oval office, this means absolutely nothing right? short of pulling someone onto the whitehouse lawn and beating them to death on live TV, no president will ever be impeached.

You do realize that Clinton WAS, in fact, impeached, right? Being impeached doesn't mean you get removed from office. He's actually the second president to be impeached. Andrew Johnson was the first.

so he was impeached, and.... nothing happened? cool. thats whatll happen in the incredibly unlikely event that this happens to trump.

adjl posted...

Troll_Police_ posted...

you do realize that after the libs let bill 'the rapist' clinton off for lying under oath, molesting interns, and getting his dick sucked in the oval office, this means absolutely nothing right?

It's almost like social attitudes toward sexual harassment and assault have changed in nearly two decades. Wow!

the precedent is set buddy boy.
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Gumbotron posted...

*scratches head*
the access hollywood tape & accusation stuff came out way before Trump got into office

*scratches head*
The Access Hollywood tape came out TO attack Trump on the campaign trail right before the general election was being voted on.

Gumbotron posted...

Trump himself is pretty overt about things like that

Except he's very clear about it being consensual and harassment by definition cannot be consensual.

Gumbotron posted...

it's pretty hard to see that the current phase as a plot to remove Trump

You mean despite fact that the previous attempt, right down to the timing, was an attempt to remove Trump? (And more specifically to do maximum damage to the Republican ticket since it was released only *after* he had won the party nomination.)

Gumbotron posted...

it's barely effective in slowing Roy Moore

as a lib I don't any of us who think these 'plots' would work
his supports are basically ok with a lot of terrible things

...except these attacks frequently work, as the unfounded accusations against Roy Moore did. And throughout history claims of sexual impropriety have been used to depose people.
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