Poll of the Day > Why the hell did Gamechamp3k beat Super Mario Odyssey without jumping?

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Jen0125 posted...

adjl posted...

On the contrary, I'd say openly admitting it suggests innocence more than guilt. The guilty have something to hide, which is at odds with open admission. It's pure speculation either way, though. There's certainly reason to be suspicious, but doing so far as to say he's an awful person because you think he might have done something awful is overreacting.

that's your opinion. you're free to have your opinion. i'm free to think gamechamp is a disgusting human being. have a great day.

And I'm also free to call that opinion a poorly-substantiated knee-jerk reaction, and to judge you as being rather unintelligent for clinging to it instead of thinking critically about it. Sure, you can think anything you want, but that doesn't absolve you from the need to substantiate your opinions if you want them to have any value.

ZiggiStardust posted...

ok, i see your dumb point, but having these thoughts does not make me want to interact with these people, be their friends, offer them a job (even if they're qualified for the position), or have anything to do with their perverted, disgusting selves, ok?

And that's a rather illogical attitude with no basis in practical reality. Don't hire them as a babysitter, obviously, but there's no sense in getting upset over something that's of no actual consequence.
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Wow, I had no idea he had said something like that. I can see both sides of the argument here, the fact that he recognizes and admits the issue, and knows to limit his contact with kids is a good thing... But still, it's a very scary thought that he believes he would end up harming his own children because of it. Not exactly a strong vote of confidence for his self control.
This is going to take some time to process. Hm.
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adjl posted...

And I'm also free to call that opinion a poorly-substantiated knee-jerk reaction, and to judge you as being rather unintelligent for clinging to it instead of thinking critically about it. Sure, you can think anything you want, but that doesn't absolve you from the need to substantiate your opinions if you want them to have any value.

i don't really care what people think about my opinions or me. judge away. i'd rather be judged for not liking a pedophile than otherwise.
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Jen0125 posted...

that's your opinion. you're free to have your opinion. i'm free to think gamechamp is a disgusting human being. have a great day.

ZiggiStardust posted...

ok, i see your dumb point, but having these thoughts does not make me want to interact with these people, be their friends, offer them a job (even if they're qualified for the position), or have anything to do with their perverted, disgusting selves, ok?

So by being honest about having a problem and taking steps to avoid harming anyone, a person should be punished and shamed and not be associated with. I know nothing about this guy, but your logic is the entire reason people don't speak up about having problematic thoughts or obsessions before it's too much for them to handle. The thoughts are disgusting, but by ridiculing someone for being honest about having them and trying not to act on them you are doing more to contribute to the problem than they have. That said he should seek therapy as should anyone else with those thoughts, but most don't out of fear.
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Readingscripts posted...

So by being honest about having a problem and taking steps to avoid harming anyone, a person should be punished and shamed and not be associated with. I know nothing about this guy, but your logic is the entire reason people don't speak up about having problematic thoughts or obsessions before it's too much for them to handle. The thoughts are disgusting, but by ridiculing someone for being honest about having them and trying not to act on them you are doing more to contribute to the problem than they have. That said he should seek therapy as should anyone else with those thoughts, but most don't out of fear.

who asked him to be honest on a video game website? talk to a therapist about it. christ. there are teenagers here even. he is very shameless with his addiction practically to underaged cartoon children going as far to put on in his signature and call her his "waifu." he doesn't care that he's a pedo. he put it on display without at all and incorporated it as part of his online identity. forgive me if i don't find him to be a hero.
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#cartoonlivesmatter
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Greenfox111 posted...

#cartoonlivesmatter

it's not about the cartoons. he's only using cartoons because it's illegal to look at actual child pornography.
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Jen0125 posted...

i'd rather be judged for not liking a pedophile than otherwise.

But you're not being judged for not liking a pedophile. You're being judged for forming opinions without thinking about them. That's definitely not a good thing to be judged for.

Readingscripts posted...

So by being honest about having a problem and taking steps to avoid harming anyone, a person should be punished and shamed and not be associated with. I know nothing about this guy, but your logic is the entire reason people don't speak up about having problematic thoughts or obsessions before it's too much for them to handle. The thoughts are disgusting, but by ridiculing someone for being honest about having them and trying not to act on them you are doing more to contribute to the problem than they have.

Basically. When you have to hide urges because they're socially unacceptable, they get worse, not better.

Readingscripts posted...

That said he should seek therapy as should anyone else with those thoughts, but most don't out of fear.

Eh, that's debatable. It's not that black and white. Some should seek therapy, but others can completely mitigate any potential harm by just not being left alone with kids, something that's actually pretty easy to arrange when saying "I'm a pedophile, so don't leave your kids with me" doesn't carry a major risk of being beaten to death. It's not actually a disorder if it doesn't adversely affect the person's life (or the lives of those around them), in which case there's no need to cure them.
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adjl posted...

And that's a rather illogical attitude with no basis in practical reality. Don't hire them as a babysitter, obviously, but there's no sense in getting upset over something that's of no actual consequence.

yeah ok, no sense in not hiring a social degenerate, right...

between you and sunny defending child rape, i'm starting to worry about the people on this board, ok?
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ZiggiStardust posted...

yeah ok, no sense in not hiring a social degenerate, right...

But they aren't a social degenerate. Not until they actually do something. Then they're scum and should be locked up and/or ostracized, but until then, they're just somebody who has some thoughts you don't like, and if you can't handle that, I question how you manage in day-to-day life.
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adjl posted...

they're just somebody who has some thoughts you don't like, and if you can't handle that, I question how you manage in day-to-day life...

LOL, are you joking?

it's a pretty big difference from not agreeing with someone's opinion of the new star wars movie to not agreeing that an eight-year-old has a sex-able body, ok?

the fact that you relate every-day differences to the most extreme cases as "well if you don't like one, you must have trouble with the other" is pretty dim, ok?
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ZiggiStardust posted...

LOL, are you joking?

it's a pretty big difference from not agreeing with someone's opinion of the new star wars movie to not agreeing that an eight-year-old has a sex-able body, ok?

And why is there a difference? Ignoring that you conflated "thoughts you don't like" with "opinions you don't agree with," what tangible, practical reason is there to treat those differently (again, presuming the latter is not acted upon)?
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adjl posted...

ZiggiStardust posted...

LOL, are you joking?

it's a pretty big difference from not agreeing with someone's opinion of the new star wars movie to not agreeing that an eight-year-old has a sex-able body, ok?

And why is there a difference? Ignoring that you conflated "thoughts you don't like" with "opinions you don't agree with," what tangible, practical reason is there to treat those differently (again, presuming the latter is not acted upon)?

lol the fact that you need an explanation to this shows you how desensitized from actual human emotion you are, ok?

if you really can't see the difference with having a stronger emotional response to "i want to have sex with children" than, say "i like pineapple on my pizza", then you are out of touch, and desperately need more human contact in your life, ok?
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i guess adjl thinks everyone should like everyone until they do something that personally affects them.

lots of people don't want to be friends with drug addicts or alcoholics even if they never do anything that personally affects them. that's their choice. if someone doesn't want to be friends with a unrepentant pedophile who makes pedophilia an open part of their internet personality that's their choice and i don't see any issue with that.
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Jen0125 posted...

i guess adjl thinks everyone should like everyone until they do something that personally affects them.

lots of people don't want to be friends with drug addicts or alcoholics even if they never do anything that personally affects them. that's their choice. if someone doesn't want to be friends with a unrepentant pedophile who makes pedophilia an open part of their internet personality that's their choice and i don't see any issue with that.

using adjl's logic, you must have problems dealing with anyone you don't agree with, if you can't be best pals with drug addicts and pedophiles, ok?
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ZiggiStardust posted...

lol the fact that you need an explanation to this shows you how desensitized from actual human emotion you are, ok?

Oh, I don't need an explanation. I know why it happens. I'm just challenging you to explain it, because I know you can't. That's the point.

Pedophiles have been bogeymen for as long as the media's been reporting on them. The fact of the matter is, though, that pedophiles are not all child molesters. Child molestation is - and absolutely should be - a crime. A very serious one, and a very scary one for anyone that cares about any children. Pedophilia is not child molestation, however. There is overlap, certainly, but being attracted to kids doesn't automatically mean actually having sex with them, just as being attracted to an unattainable adult doesn't automatically mean raping them. Pedophilia is merely attraction, no different from any other attraction that's unacceptable to act upon. And there's nothing wrong with that, provided it stays that way.

This is uncomfortable. Of course you don't like this idea. The notion that all pedophiles are dangerous child molesters is extremely common, and the fear and disgust that you (rightfully) feel toward child molestation gets conflated with fear and disgust of pedophiles. But that's wrong. It's hard to accept, but the fact that you can't articulate the difference between liking pineapple and liking little boy dicks is all the proof you should need to know that that aversion has no practical basis. Children will be a whole lot safer if pedophiles feel safe and comfortable saying "don't leave your kid with me," and that's only going to happen if everyone overcomes that aversion Then it's only the evil ones you have to worry about, instead of lapses in self-control. The evil ones are assholes. Nobody likes those guys.
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adjl posted...

It's hard to accept, but the fact that you can't articulate the difference between liking pineapple and liking little boy dicks is all the proof you should need to know that that aversion has no practical basis.

who said it was practical? hell, i'll even admit that someone who hasn't acted out sexually towards children in their whole life probably won't. does that make me feel any better about them? hell no, it doesn't. pedophile or sexual abuser, you have no place in my life, ok?

like, what more do you want from me here? what don't you grasp? i'm starting to think that this is less you wanting to prove something, and more your inability to understand human behavior.

like, i know there's a difference between child molesters and pedophiles, yeah? is it that hard to believe that i dislike and want nothing to do with both?

holy shit, you and sunny seriously need to become besties. it seems both of you carry a very similar set of interests, ok?
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Also there are probably plenty of child molesters that aren't even pedophiles.

*Fkees*
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bump

Ah, crap; I think he banned me from his Twitch chat once. ><
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EclairReturns posted...

Ah, crap; I think he banned me from his Twitch chat once. ><

Take that as a badge of honor