Poll of the Day > Do you believe CNN is a reliable source of information?

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thedeerzord
12/07/17 4:55:10 PM
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Is CNN a reliable source?


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mastermix3000
12/07/17 4:56:17 PM
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Be honest, what news source really tries to be accurate rather than quick to report now?

Very difficult to believe anybody at this point
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Ogurisama
12/07/17 4:57:13 PM
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12/07/17 4:58:40 PM
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mastermix3000
12/07/17 4:59:17 PM
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Ogurisama posted...
All news sources are never 100% reliable


yea but everyone is like ~60%, which is pretty fuckin terrifying
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12/07/17 5:00:06 PM
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Far-Queue
12/07/17 5:01:53 PM
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mastermix3000 posted...
Be honest, what news source really tries to be accurate rather than quick to report now?

Very difficult to believe anybody at this point

Ogurisama posted...
All news sources are never 100% reliable

But that said, not all are 100% unreliable

These. Its important to read up on any news from multiple sources in order to gain a decent understanding of any issue or event.

Sadly, many people dont even make it past the first headline.
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Archgoat
12/07/17 5:06:48 PM
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For the most part I think CNN is reliable. No news organization is going to be 100% all the time. I think a big issue with CNN is they have a lot of talking heads who represent a certain side. These people are not reliable, as they are very biased.

The basic news coverage I think is decent. I feel like newspapers will be more reliable though as they are not trying to be first always, or have to fill 24 hours.
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Zeus
12/07/17 5:07:46 PM
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Not really, no. And it's not just a matter of bias, but they're absolutely shoddy reporters who publish unverified information as fact. They reported that the police had caught the Boston Bomber I think days before it happened, which could have seriously fucked up the search because it would encourage people to stop looking.

If I had to rate how much I trust their reporting, I'd probably put it at 25% or less. It's better than MSNBC, at any rate.

Far-Queue posted...
Sadly, many people dont even make it past the first headline.


So much this. And headlines are both sensationalist and misleading half the time. Plus, even when information is corrected, people remember the original claim but not the correction.
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WarGreymon77
12/07/17 5:17:50 PM
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CNN makes MSNBC look right-wing.
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TheCyborgNinja
12/07/17 5:22:56 PM
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MSM isn't reliable. Even when there's video of an event, they still spin the fuck out of it to fit their chosen agenda.
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Far-Queue
12/07/17 5:30:17 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
Even when there's video of an event, they still spin the fuck out of it to fit their chosen agenda.

That happens with every major news provider. Left or right.
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Zeus
12/07/17 5:30:48 PM
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WarGreymon77 posted...
CNN makes MSNBC look right-wing.


I certainly wouldn't go that far. MSNBC is generally a lot further left than other news sources. They're essentially the leftist version of Fox News, especially when you consider their histories.
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NightShift
12/07/17 5:30:50 PM
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no more or less than any other 24 hour quick to report news outlet
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SmokeMassTree
12/07/17 5:33:32 PM
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I don't think any news station is a reliable source of information
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WarGreymon77
12/07/17 5:34:18 PM
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Zeus posted...
WarGreymon77 posted...
CNN makes MSNBC look right-wing.


I certainly wouldn't go that far. MSNBC is generally a lot further left than other news sources. They're essentially the leftist version of Fox News, especially when you consider their histories.

To tell the truth, I haven't even glanced at MSNBC for a long time.
But ever since the election cycle started, CNN rebranded itself as the Anti-Trump Propaganda Network.

And that is when I realized how garbage CNN is.
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InfernalFive
12/07/17 5:35:19 PM
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It's about as much of a joke as every other mainstream news network.
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SmokeMassTree
12/07/17 5:36:46 PM
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Clinton News Network
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Flyingpirate
12/07/17 5:38:29 PM
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Fake news.
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mario2000
12/07/17 5:42:19 PM
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no because they say mean things about my orange god emperor
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Veemon_X
12/07/17 5:47:34 PM
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Zeus posted...
WarGreymon77 posted...
CNN makes MSNBC look right-wing.


I certainly wouldn't go that far. MSNBC is generally a lot further left than other news sources. They're essentially the leftist version of Fox News, especially when you consider their histories.


Yeah, this is what I noticed. I remember reading MSNBC when it was my default page and it was definitely left. I didn't read it for the political commentary though. It was the default page for IE at one point prior to Bing existing. (Makes sense, MSN = Miscrosoft Network).

The big three all have a slant (Fox, CNN, MSNBC). CNN probably has the least imo.
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Andromicus
12/07/17 5:50:11 PM
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People seem to think that major news agencies can just make shit up, journalistic integrity is a real thing and they will get major shit for getting things wrong, regardless of political affiliation. That said they can choose what to report on and when but it's not like some wasteland of disinformation, we the consumer are held to at least some standard, and screeching "fake news!" does nothing to help.
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TigerTycoon
12/07/17 5:54:57 PM
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Andromicus posted...
People seem to think that major news agencies can just make shit up, journalistic integrity is a real thing and they will get major shit for getting things wrong, regardless of political affiliation. That said they can choose what to report on and when but it's not like some wasteland of disinformation, we the consumer are held to at least some standard, and screeching "fake news!" does nothing to help.

What, are you claiming you think most major media outlets have enough journalistic integrity where the won't just say things to push their agenda, fear monger, and grab views?

Outlets like CNN take random accusations and report them as fact, then have hours of round table discussions about how something they have no concrete evidence on as if it's obviously true.
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WarGreymon77
12/07/17 5:58:22 PM
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Andromicus posted...
People seem to think that major news agencies can just make shit up, journalistic integrity is a real thing and they will get major shit for getting things wrong, regardless of political affiliation. That said they can choose what to report on and when but it's not like some wasteland of disinformation, we the consumer are held to at least some standard, and screeching "fake news!" does nothing to help.

Journalistic integrity is dead. There is too much opinion in reporting today. Real journalism should be nothing but facts.
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Far-Queue
12/07/17 6:00:34 PM
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Andromicus posted...
People seem to think that major news agencies can just make shit up, journalistic integrity is a real thing and they will get major shit for getting things wrong, regardless of political affiliation. That said they can choose what to report on and when but it's not like some wasteland of disinformation, we the consumer are held to at least some standard, and screeching "fake news!" does nothing to help.

Theres a difference between reporting a false story (which they can get in trouble for and doesnt happen all that often for that very reason), and spinning a story to fit an agenda, which will not generally get anyone in any real trouble and happens every single fucking day.
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Andromicus
12/07/17 6:06:10 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Andromicus posted...
People seem to think that major news agencies can just make shit up, journalistic integrity is a real thing and they will get major shit for getting things wrong, regardless of political affiliation. That said they can choose what to report on and when but it's not like some wasteland of disinformation, we the consumer are held to at least some standard, and screeching "fake news!" does nothing to help.

Theres a difference between reporting a false story (which they can get in trouble for and doesnt happen all that often for that very reason), and spinning a story to fit an agenda, which will not generally get anyone in any real trouble and happens every single fucking day.

There will always be an agenda, those that agree with it see it as truth and those that don't will see it as propaganda, it's our job as consumers to see this and make our judgement. We have more news sources than ever and more agendas than ever, you can get all your news from one source to validate all your beliefs, this will always exist and if you aren't seeing your "truth" its your problem.
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OhhhJa
12/07/17 6:21:12 PM
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Andromicus posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Andromicus posted...
People seem to think that major news agencies can just make shit up, journalistic integrity is a real thing and they will get major shit for getting things wrong, regardless of political affiliation. That said they can choose what to report on and when but it's not like some wasteland of disinformation, we the consumer are held to at least some standard, and screeching "fake news!" does nothing to help.

Theres a difference between reporting a false story (which they can get in trouble for and doesnt happen all that often for that very reason), and spinning a story to fit an agenda, which will not generally get anyone in any real trouble and happens every single fucking day.

There will always be an agenda, those that agree with it see it as truth and those that don't will see it as propaganda, it's our job as consumers to see this and make our judgement. We have more news sources than ever and more agendas than ever, you can get all your news from one source to validate all your beliefs, this will always exist and if you aren't seeing your "truth" its your problem.

Yeah I think the issue is more that the readers have no critical thinking skills. People believe what they wanna believe and will eat out of the hand of the source that agrees with them and pushes their views
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Troll_Police_
12/07/17 6:24:49 PM
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mastermix3000 posted...
Be honest, what news source really tries to be accurate rather than quick to report now?

Very difficult to believe anybody at this point


yeah, but CNN isnt shit because they try to be quick, they are shit because they outright lie to pursue a political agenda.

like if duckbear were an actual news station, he would be CNN
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argonautweakend
12/07/17 6:29:01 PM
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for the most part yeah.
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Zeus
12/07/17 7:01:47 PM
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Andromicus posted...
People seem to think that major news agencies can just make shit up, journalistic integrity is a real thing and they will get major shit for getting things wrong, regardless of political affiliation.


mXyupD1

There's the specter of libel suits -- which forced CNN to retract a story and fire some employees earlier this year -- but that's about it. Actual accountability is fairly low. Some news outlets -- like the Rolling Stone -- don't even fire anybody when they're busted for #FakeNews . However, in general, most of the stories involve taking clips out of context and spinning them into headlines to promote a chosen narrative. There's very little integrity or accountability at most media outlets. And why would there be? After all, the major networks have a near-monopoly on news.

Andromicus posted...
That said they can choose what to report on and when but it's not like some wasteland of disinformation, we the consumer are held to at least some standard, and screeching "fake news!" does nothing to help.


...except for the fact that selective reporting can be and is used for disinformation. Especially when they choose to report on unverified claims. Even when they note that it's purely speculation, it still creates an impression within peoples' minds which is why it's completely irresponsible journalism.
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BADoglick
12/07/17 7:36:41 PM
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No news source is unbiased, but most have some truth as well. It's good to get information from a variety of sources, and train yourself to be able to filter the news from the editorial presented as news. I'll check everything from Breitbart to Huff Post. Most of it pisses me off, but it's important to know what people are talking about and how to not sound like a parrot who gets their information from one source.
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JixHedgehog
12/07/17 7:41:48 PM
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Nah

They choose to cover and report whatever has a chance to make the President look bad.. when that illegal alien got off for killing that American girl they were reporting more Russian meddling stories

.. also they said Hillary was ahead in the polls during the election.. sooooooo
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BlackScythe0
12/07/17 7:43:52 PM
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Zeus posted...
...except for the fact that selective reporting can be and is used for disinformation. Especially when they choose to report on unverified claims. Even when they note that it's purely speculation, it still creates an impression within peoples' minds which is why it's completely irresponsible journalism.


And I bet you think Fox News is a beacon of news reporting with the way they literally fabricate stories and run like a state propaganda channel.
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Muscles
12/07/17 7:47:08 PM
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Just as much as Fox and MSNBC (not at all)
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12/07/17 7:57:58 PM
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Andromicus posted...
People seem to think that major news agencies can just make shit up, journalistic integrity is a real thing and they will get major shit for getting things wrong, regardless of political affiliation. That said they can choose what to report on and when but it's not like some wasteland of disinformation, we the consumer are held to at least some standard, and screeching "fake news!" does nothing to help.

The very best "journalistic integrity" is the end product of a long version of the party game "Telephone", where what a source thinks is happening is filtered through what a reporter thinks the source said, further modified by an editor or director, maybe a few more writers who interpret in their own way, before it ever gets read by a talking-head commentator.

Anyone who has ever been interviewed for the news knows that what is printed in the paper or shown on TV has very little in common with what was actually said.
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12/07/17 8:03:39 PM
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More than Fox, less than reading smoke signals in WWII era Europe.
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Zeus
12/07/17 8:04:13 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
...except for the fact that selective reporting can be and is used for disinformation. Especially when they choose to report on unverified claims. Even when they note that it's purely speculation, it still creates an impression within peoples' minds which is why it's completely irresponsible journalism.


And I bet you think Fox News is a beacon of news reporting with the way they literally fabricate stories and run like a state propaganda channel.


I still love how your automatic deflection is, "But... but... Fox News!", despite the fact that I already disparaged Fox News once in this topic by putting in the same camp as MSNBC. You're emblematic of partisan nonsense ruining the media today by assuming that anybody who dares criticize your echo chamber must be on the other side of the partisan spectrum.

And, despite the narrative you (and others) so fervently clung to and tried to advance, I'm not sure I've once spoke favorably of Fox News on PotD or anywhere else. And virtually the extent of my knowledge of Fox News comes from clips shown on the Jon Stewart-era Daily Show, the Colbert Report, Last Week Tonight, and similar programs.
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BlackScythe0
12/07/17 8:37:26 PM
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Zeus posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
...except for the fact that selective reporting can be and is used for disinformation. Especially when they choose to report on unverified claims. Even when they note that it's purely speculation, it still creates an impression within peoples' minds which is why it's completely irresponsible journalism.


And I bet you think Fox News is a beacon of news reporting with the way they literally fabricate stories and run like a state propaganda channel.


I still love how your automatic deflection is, "But... but... Fox News!", despite the fact that I already disparaged Fox News once in this topic by putting in the same camp as MSNBC. You're emblematic of partisan nonsense ruining the media today by assuming that anybody who dares criticize your echo chamber must be on the other side of the partisan spectrum.

And, despite the narrative you (and others) so fervently clung to and tried to advance, I'm not sure I've once spoke favorably of Fox News on PotD or anywhere else. And virtually the extent of my knowledge of Fox News comes from clips shown on the Jon Stewart-era Daily Show, the Colbert Report, Last Week Tonight, and similar programs.


Putting fox news int he same camp of any of the other main stream media sources is the problem.

It's not "just as bad". It is objectively worse.
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Zeus
12/07/17 8:55:50 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
...except for the fact that selective reporting can be and is used for disinformation. Especially when they choose to report on unverified claims. Even when they note that it's purely speculation, it still creates an impression within peoples' minds which is why it's completely irresponsible journalism.


And I bet you think Fox News is a beacon of news reporting with the way they literally fabricate stories and run like a state propaganda channel.


I still love how your automatic deflection is, "But... but... Fox News!", despite the fact that I already disparaged Fox News once in this topic by putting in the same camp as MSNBC. You're emblematic of partisan nonsense ruining the media today by assuming that anybody who dares criticize your echo chamber must be on the other side of the partisan spectrum.

And, despite the narrative you (and others) so fervently clung to and tried to advance, I'm not sure I've once spoke favorably of Fox News on PotD or anywhere else. And virtually the extent of my knowledge of Fox News comes from clips shown on the Jon Stewart-era Daily Show, the Colbert Report, Last Week Tonight, and similar programs.


Putting fox news int he same camp of any of the other main stream media sources is the problem.

It's not "just as bad". It is objectively worse.


Depends. Are you counting MSNBC as mainstream media? If you are, you're deluding yourself by thinking MSNBC isn't in the same camp or worse (as opposed to CNN which is somewhat less biased but engages in downright shoddy reporting) and that's only counting tv news. Granted, partisans are only able to see faults in outlets which oppose their opinions. If a publication affirms a partisan's opinion, it seems reliable to them.
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OhhhJa
12/07/17 9:13:42 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
...except for the fact that selective reporting can be and is used for disinformation. Especially when they choose to report on unverified claims. Even when they note that it's purely speculation, it still creates an impression within peoples' minds which is why it's completely irresponsible journalism.


And I bet you think Fox News is a beacon of news reporting with the way they literally fabricate stories and run like a state propaganda channel.


I still love how your automatic deflection is, "But... but... Fox News!", despite the fact that I already disparaged Fox News once in this topic by putting in the same camp as MSNBC. You're emblematic of partisan nonsense ruining the media today by assuming that anybody who dares criticize your echo chamber must be on the other side of the partisan spectrum.

And, despite the narrative you (and others) so fervently clung to and tried to advance, I'm not sure I've once spoke favorably of Fox News on PotD or anywhere else. And virtually the extent of my knowledge of Fox News comes from clips shown on the Jon Stewart-era Daily Show, the Colbert Report, Last Week Tonight, and similar programs.


Putting fox news int he same camp of any of the other main stream media sources is the problem.

It's not "just as bad". It is objectively worse.

You only say this because you're a hardcore leftist (as I've seen you demonstrate many times... I think you're one of the guys quick to scream "nazi" at people who disagree with you). As someone with the ability to think for myself I see them both as pretty equally garbage
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12/07/17 9:17:58 PM
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BlackScythe0
12/08/17 7:37:43 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
...except for the fact that selective reporting can be and is used for disinformation. Especially when they choose to report on unverified claims. Even when they note that it's purely speculation, it still creates an impression within peoples' minds which is why it's completely irresponsible journalism.


And I bet you think Fox News is a beacon of news reporting with the way they literally fabricate stories and run like a state propaganda channel.


I still love how your automatic deflection is, "But... but... Fox News!", despite the fact that I already disparaged Fox News once in this topic by putting in the same camp as MSNBC. You're emblematic of partisan nonsense ruining the media today by assuming that anybody who dares criticize your echo chamber must be on the other side of the partisan spectrum.

And, despite the narrative you (and others) so fervently clung to and tried to advance, I'm not sure I've once spoke favorably of Fox News on PotD or anywhere else. And virtually the extent of my knowledge of Fox News comes from clips shown on the Jon Stewart-era Daily Show, the Colbert Report, Last Week Tonight, and similar programs.


Putting fox news int he same camp of any of the other main stream media sources is the problem.

It's not "just as bad". It is objectively worse.

You only say this because you're a hardcore leftist (as I've seen you demonstrate many times... I think you're one of the guys quick to scream "nazi" at people who disagree with you). As someone with the ability to think for myself I see them both as pretty equally garbage


lol hardcore. And no, I don't call people nazis. You know unless someone started talking about genetic cleansing, but instead of responding to them I would simply report them.
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GastroFan
12/08/17 8:59:54 AM
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What gets me is that every time a news organization puts on 1)one of the president's unredacted tweets, 2)shows a video released by the WH where the president says something really lame brained and offensive and 3) reports on any news that might be against this president, they're labeled 'fake news' by the masses. Nobody had any problem trashing Obama (Fox News and every right wing radio station in the country called him every racist name in the book, if not more); yet little old creampuff can't take criticism of his policies or behavior? How low have we sunk in this country?
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waterdeepchu
12/08/17 9:01:50 AM
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as reliable as anyone can be, considering the volume of information. They make mistakes, but they're are relatively few.
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cute_fan
12/08/17 9:29:36 AM
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My take on the matter, is the same as ...

WarGreymon77 wrote:
To tell the truth, I haven't even glanced at MSNBC for a long time.
But ever since the election cycle started, CNN rebranded itself as the Anti-Trump Propaganda Network.

And that is when I realized how garbage CNN is.


JixHedgehog wrote:
They choose to cover and report whatever has a chance to make the President look bad.. when that illegal alien got off for killing that American girl they were reporting more Russian meddling stories

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waterdeepchu
12/08/17 10:12:29 AM
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cute_fan posted...
My take on the matter, is the same as ...

WarGreymon77 wrote:
To tell the truth, I haven't even glanced at MSNBC for a long time.
But ever since the election cycle started, CNN rebranded itself as the Anti-Trump Propaganda Network.

And that is when I realized how garbage CNN is.


JixHedgehog wrote:
They choose to cover and report whatever has a chance to make the President look bad.. when that illegal alien got off for killing that American girl they were reporting more Russian meddling stories


They don't report on only things that make Trump look bad. They report on everything he does. The problem is, he doesn't do anything good. The only times he even gets close are situations where someone gets helped, but someone else gets screwed over.

If you can show me something that proves otherwise, by all means do so. But ive been asking about this for a year now.. Not one response.
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gguirao
12/08/17 1:24:15 PM
#48:


Mostly, yes. More than Fox News, at least.
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WarGreymon77
12/08/17 2:00:46 PM
#49:


GastroFan posted...
What gets me is that every time a news organization puts on 1)one of the president's unredacted tweets, 2)shows a video released by the WH where the president says something really lame brained and offensive and 3) reports on any news that might be against this president, they're labeled 'fake news' by the masses. Nobody had any problem trashing Obama (Fox News and every right wing radio station in the country called him every racist name in the book, if not more); yet little old creampuff can't take criticism of his policies or behavior? How low have we sunk in this country?

cghIlA4

Such valiant reporting. What an evil man.
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OhhhJa
12/08/17 2:07:16 PM
#50:


BlackScythe0 posted...
OhhhJa posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...
Zeus posted...
...except for the fact that selective reporting can be and is used for disinformation. Especially when they choose to report on unverified claims. Even when they note that it's purely speculation, it still creates an impression within peoples' minds which is why it's completely irresponsible journalism.


And I bet you think Fox News is a beacon of news reporting with the way they literally fabricate stories and run like a state propaganda channel.


I still love how your automatic deflection is, "But... but... Fox News!", despite the fact that I already disparaged Fox News once in this topic by putting in the same camp as MSNBC. You're emblematic of partisan nonsense ruining the media today by assuming that anybody who dares criticize your echo chamber must be on the other side of the partisan spectrum.

And, despite the narrative you (and others) so fervently clung to and tried to advance, I'm not sure I've once spoke favorably of Fox News on PotD or anywhere else. And virtually the extent of my knowledge of Fox News comes from clips shown on the Jon Stewart-era Daily Show, the Colbert Report, Last Week Tonight, and similar programs.


Putting fox news int he same camp of any of the other main stream media sources is the problem.

It's not "just as bad". It is objectively worse.

You only say this because you're a hardcore leftist (as I've seen you demonstrate many times... I think you're one of the guys quick to scream "nazi" at people who disagree with you). As someone with the ability to think for myself I see them both as pretty equally garbage


lol hardcore. And no, I don't call people nazis. You know unless someone started talking about genetic cleansing, but instead of responding to them I would simply report them.

I think I was confusing you with that streamofthesky guy. My mistake
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