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darkphoenix181 11/22/17 11:59:40 AM #1: |
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/11/victorias-gambling-regulator-loot-boxes-constitute-gambling/
In email correspondence with a local university student, the Victorian Commission for Gambling and Liquor Regulation (VCGLR) has revealed that, yes, loot boxes constitute a form of gambling - at least in Victoria. meanwhile some gamers try their best to mount a defense lol --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 11/22/17 12:00:27 PM #2: |
EA must be pretty nervous right now. Tying your entire character progression to lootboxes was taking shit too far, now they're getting burned.
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glitteringfairy 11/22/17 12:01:04 PM #3: |
We did it reddit
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NewerMernardi 11/22/17 12:01:48 PM #4: |
EA getting BTFO'D
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Balrog0 11/22/17 12:01:56 PM #5: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
meanwhile some gamers try their best to mount a defense lol but I think gambling should be legal --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 11/22/17 12:03:03 PM #7: |
MC_BatCommander posted...
EA must be pretty nervous right now. Tying your entire character progression to lootboxes was taking shit too far, now they're getting burned. EA is basically bringing down an entire business model. This is going to ripple across console, PC, and mobile and basically ruin every publisher's 10 year business plan. I suspect we're going to see some heavy turnover at the top of EA in the next few months. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 11/22/17 12:03:06 PM #8: |
glitteringfairy posted...
We did it reddit --- "This is your last dance." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EyeWontBeFooled 11/22/17 12:03:45 PM #9: |
Balrog0 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...meanwhile some gamers try their best to mount a defense lol It should be. And regulated as such :3 Make games that incorporate the gambling elements have PEGI 18 rating. Aus uses PEGI, right? --- Welcome to the Brave New World of 1984! Current temp: Fahrenheit 451 It's never a bad day, and always a good night, so BE HAPPY and enjoy your stay! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonOctopus 11/22/17 12:04:06 PM #10: |
glitteringfairy posted...
We did it reddit --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheDarkCircle 11/22/17 12:05:07 PM #11: |
s0nicfan posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...EA must be pretty nervous right now. Tying your entire character progression to lootboxes was taking shit too far, now they're getting burned. I doubt that. Nothing EA or any company can do at this point, so I doubt EA is in some sort of internal crisis in that way. EA is still raking in the big bucks, their not in an jeopardy but whatever long term scheme that was planned is now shelved. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 11/22/17 12:05:11 PM #12: |
Balrog0 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...meanwhile some gamers try their best to mount a defense lol Do you also think minors shouldn't be allowed to play Star Wars video games because it contains gambling? --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 11/22/17 12:05:44 PM #13: |
Balrog0 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...meanwhile some gamers try their best to mount a defense lol Gambling should be legal but it should still be gambling. Thus age-restricted / prohibitions and regulations on online gambling / unable to be sold at family-friendly retail stores. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 11/22/17 12:07:03 PM #14: |
This isn't necessarily going to change anything.
Could amount to literally nothing, or as little as a patch in a bunch of games that makes a popup screen appear for you to mark "I promise I'm over 18" or whatever the gambling age is. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 11/22/17 12:08:56 PM #15: |
TheDarkCircle posted...
s0nicfan posted...MC_BatCommander posted...EA must be pretty nervous right now. Tying your entire character progression to lootboxes was taking shit too far, now they're getting burned. My assumption was that their stocks are going to take a hit, and since the people at the top are beholden to the board, which live and die by their stock price, they're going to want a sacrificial lamb or three to show that they've "fixed" the problem. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 11/22/17 12:11:43 PM #17: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
Balrog0 posted...darkphoenix181 posted...meanwhile some gamers try their best to mount a defense lol I don't have strong feelings about minors gambling. --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonOctopus 11/22/17 12:11:59 PM #18: |
This is wonderful news woo
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darkphoenix181 11/22/17 12:20:21 PM #19: |
Balrog0 posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...Balrog0 posted...darkphoenix181 posted...meanwhile some gamers try their best to mount a defense lol regardless of your feelings, the government will regulate games with gambling in it away from the hands of children so what remains is the question: "is it ok for a star wars game to have gambling in it and thus not legally be sold to children?" --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 11/22/17 12:20:58 PM #20: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
so what remains is the question: "is it ok for a star wars game to have gambling in it and thus not legally be sold to children?" yeah --- He would make his mark, if not on this tree, then on that wall; if not with teeth and claws, then with penknife and razor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 11/22/17 12:24:52 PM #21: |
Balrog0 posted...
yeah ok, but Disney probably disagrees --- sigless user is me or am I? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kolibri X 11/22/17 12:29:02 PM #23: |
How is this gambling exactly? Doesn't a risk of losing something have to be involved?
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NeonOctopus 11/22/17 12:30:08 PM #24: |
Kolibri X posted...
How is this gambling exactly? Doesn't a risk of losing something have to be involved? Losing your money on literal shit items --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EyeWontBeFooled 11/22/17 12:34:55 PM #25: |
Kolibri X posted...
How is this gambling exactly? Doesn't a risk of losing something have to be involved? When you get so many duplicates of an item, that just one more might as well be worth nothing, then you've made it a lottery type gamble with lootboxes. --- Welcome to the Brave New World of 1984! Current temp: Fahrenheit 451 It's never a bad day, and always a good night, so BE HAPPY and enjoy your stay! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NihilistTurian 11/23/17 9:02:11 AM #26: |
Kolibri X posted...
How is this gambling exactly? Doesn't a risk of losing something have to be involved? If slot machines gave you back 1 cent guaranteed, would that suddenly make it not gambling to you? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 11/23/17 9:26:23 AM #27: |
What if EA is the hero we need right now... What if their master plan was to tank the concept of loot crates in games once and for all by pushing it through in the most extreme way possible in one of its biggest name games.
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Cheater87 11/23/17 9:28:44 AM #28: |
EyeWontBeFooled posted...
Balrog0 posted...darkphoenix181 posted...meanwhile some gamers try their best to mount a defense lol No, Australia uses a government rating system. If they had PEGI they wouldn't have 500 or so games banned heh. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fishy 11/23/17 9:29:11 AM #29: |
Balrog0 posted...
but I think gambling should be legal It should be, but I want to play video games not gamble. --- ~Dr. FishyStick| Welcome Back. http://i.imgur.com/z50xS2H.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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weapon_d00d816 11/23/17 9:42:33 AM #30: |
I'm glad something is being done about this predatory and anti-consumer tactic that is killing a medium, but if we want to be real, it's not technically gambling because gambling has the possibility of giving you nothing. You put your money in and you are guaranteed to get something. It's like a capsule machine or a pack of trading cards. However, one major difference is that your rewarded items cannot be traded.
But I'm absolutely fine with stretching the definition of gambling to fit this. It's a very clearly exploitative business tactic that lets them create artificial demand by choosing to sell or not to sell their products made of thin air. The amount of man-hours required to create most of these items is incredibly negligible, and often included within the scope of the man-hours required for creating the base game. Especially when it's gameplay related lootbox content like perks/abilities. Literally just a few lines of code tweaking some stats. The gaming industry isn't going to stop doing it just by people complaining. They're getting far too much revenue from rich people who have no problem paying $250 extra in microtransactions. This is something that requires government interaction. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoopPotato 11/23/17 9:50:03 AM #31: |
I wonder how they will respond to this in BF2. "ok fuckers, No more updates. We just abandoned the game. Have fun, assholes."
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EyeWontBeFooled 11/23/17 5:48:59 PM #32: |
PoopPotato posted...
I wonder how they will respond to this in BF2. "ok fuckers, No more updates. We just abandoned the game. Have fun, assholes." Then nothing of value was lot. Give the license to a company that cares. --- Welcome to the Brave New World of 1984! Current temp: Fahrenheit 451 It's never a bad day, and always a good night, so BE HAPPY and enjoy your stay! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darmik 11/23/17 5:55:00 PM #33: |
At the very least I hope this leads to developers being extremely transparent about their lootbox systems considering the backlash.
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FLUFFYGERM 11/23/17 5:56:55 PM #34: |
The people celebrating this are going to regret it once it devastates the entire gaming industry. So many games rely on this for their funding.
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EyeWontBeFooled 11/23/17 7:46:18 PM #35: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
The people celebrating this are going to regret it once it devastates the entire gaming industry. So many games rely on this for their funding. Then I say: Bring on the next great video game crash! --- Welcome to the Brave New World of 1984! Current temp: Fahrenheit 451 It's never a bad day, and always a good night, so BE HAPPY and enjoy your stay! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 11/23/17 7:48:07 PM #36: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
The people celebrating this are going to regret it once it devastates the entire gaming industry. So many games rely on this for their funding. Nothing I play uses lootboxes, so I won't care if this fucks things up. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cheater87 11/23/17 7:48:53 PM #37: |
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LightningAce11 11/23/17 7:50:16 PM #38: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
The people celebrating this are going to regret it once it devastates the entire gaming industry. So many games rely on this for their funding. Lootboxes don't affect them making a profit. It's a bonus. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marc55 11/23/17 8:07:33 PM #39: |
LightningAce11 posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...The people celebrating this are going to regret it once it devastates the entire gaming industry. So many games rely on this for their funding. ......so lootboxes are a bonus for F2P games ..................riiiiiight --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 11/23/17 8:43:40 PM #40: |
marc55 posted...
LightningAce11 posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...The people celebrating this are going to regret it once it devastates the entire gaming industry. So many games rely on this for their funding. They can use more sensible things. Like just selling the things in the lootboxes. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mystery_Mission 11/23/17 8:45:24 PM #41: |
Blue_Inigo posted...
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