Board 8 > 1006-verse: The women glow and the men plunder [TEW] [mod] [crossover] [wrassle]

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Tom Bombadil
12/11/17 10:11:40 AM
#101:


I have statted accordingly, save for a couple of people who haven't yet shown up. Got some spoilers, but it's not the most swerve-y show of the ever so shrug.

The rest of the month I'll be playtesting! How's your stuff coming, CPU?
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IhatethisCPU
12/11/17 10:38:50 AM
#102:


Classes ended for the semester yesterday, shouldn't take more than a few days. ^_^
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eaedwards6400
12/11/17 1:06:43 PM
#103:


Alright. So I stated all of my Survivor People and the Big Brother people are on the spreadsheet not yet stated. I have been watching Big Brother so I am going to update those as I go. Um, if we need to speed those up though I can do it that way too. I have not seen all of these seasons these players are on.
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Tom Bombadil
12/11/17 1:16:20 PM
#104:


We've got until like early summer to BB, so no rush!
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IhatethisCPU
12/11/17 4:00:57 PM
#105:


Remind me what companies and such are on my workin' block, Tom?
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Tom Bombadil
12/11/17 4:21:05 PM
#106:


Pretty much everything that is already in the mod that was "yours," but mainly the things you haven't already detailed. That looks like:
Phoenix Wright
Trails
Misc RPG
Undertale
A dang lot of FA
and I THINK that's it

It'll be a lot more next time <_>
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IhatethisCPU
12/11/17 4:41:52 PM
#107:


Gotcha, shooould be able to get these finished by Saturday, Thursday the earliest, Sunday the latest assuming nothin' odd comes up. ^_^
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Tom Bombadil
12/11/17 5:09:54 PM
#108:


perfect :D
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Tom Bombadil
12/11/17 5:30:03 PM
#109:


had to go through old PMs to make space

found 1006-verse PMs from 2013

am now kinda sad
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Tom Bombadil
12/11/17 6:05:41 PM
#110:


oh hey it's a bonus day, too

Added contracts for Trails and JRPG purely for simming/playtesting purposes

Added Amadeus, and also statted Heero and Char

Simming while I go out for dinner!
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Tom Bombadil
12/12/17 9:54:05 AM
#111:


today's playtest: FFWD
https://gyazo.com/a27b35c999d90fa08bb934765a732698
we're two days in
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IhatethisCPU
12/12/17 10:00:49 AM
#112:


Yes, the backstage situation in FFWD is... sort of a dumpster fire. ^_^'
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Tom Bombadil
12/12/17 10:36:55 AM
#113:


FFWD @eaedwards6400
-Morale is still pretty low. Playable, but do we want it to be that bad?
-We're missing performance skills for: Squall, Terra, FF1, Black Mage, Nero, Prishe, Sazh, and possibly Shantotto
-ME is pretty heel heavy. I assume it'll help once Squall has perf skills (and Lightning has non-zero pop), but can we reasonably faceturn any of Seph/Mateus/Garland/Jecht/Kefka/Ultimecia?
-Might need to buff these guys a bit, actually. I am actually booking shows for this round of playtests, so I can no longer blame these mediocre ratings on the autobooker! We fell to National in two shows.
-Could maybe use a couple more people on the main roster- we're at the exact minimum. But then you can call up folks from FFT or raid the indies pretty easily, so this isn't necessarily a problem....unless you do a Hardline Stance the second show and lose a huge chunk of dudes, lol
-Exdeath has turned pretty much everybody against Bartz
-Harth Stonebrew keeps becoming the owner of Comics, lol
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Lopen
12/12/17 10:41:08 AM
#114:


I'm assuming Eaed may have been a bit liberal with hatred relationships. I'd probably limit that to hero/villain pairs that are actually more personal about it. Like X-Death/Bartz probably shouldn't really have a hatred relationship.
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Tom Bombadil
12/12/17 10:43:02 AM
#115:


I closed it out but IIRC it is also just a ton of toxic personalities
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IhatethisCPU
12/12/17 11:45:32 AM
#116:


I'd personally sayJecht and Seph could... possibly be faces? Kefka is a flat no because *Kefka*, Ultimecia... ehh. ANd Garland/Mateus are pretty much only possible as heels without major personality changes.Which is... also part of the reason the backstage is so toxic.

Also the fact that half the roster hates/don't like each other, and quite a few people backstage are manipulative as all hell and turn people against them. See Exdeath/Bartz there. Moosstly because there're people that're... also obscenely negative influences? Kefka, Nero, Ultimecia, Exdeath, Lady Lilith are all extmely to very negative. They also don't have any locker room leaders, but they're in short supply currently as is.

...Just my two cents. ^_^'
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Lopen
12/12/17 11:58:20 AM
#117:


I think the personalities might be overly negative too if that's the case. I'll have to DL the database to be sure but there are certain villains I could see not being super negative. Ruthless and manipulative would be big ones shared by most which would probably be damaging but the rest would be give and take depending on the villain probably-- probably being a bit too harsh with the sliders on some of them.
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eaedwards6400
12/13/17 9:57:47 AM
#118:


Tom Bombadil posted...
FFWD @eaedwards6400
1. -Morale is still pretty low. Playable, but do we want it to be that bad?
2. -We're missing performance skills for: Squall, Terra, FF1, Black Mage, Nero, Prishe, Sazh, and possibly Shantotto
3. -ME is pretty heel heavy. I assume it'll help once Squall has perf skills (and Lightning has non-zero pop), but can we reasonably faceturn any of Seph/Mateus/Garland/Jecht/Kefka/Ultimecia?
4. -Might need to buff these guys a bit, actually. I am actually booking shows for this round of playtests, so I can no longer blame these mediocre ratings on the autobooker! We fell to National in two shows.
5. -Could maybe use a couple more people on the main roster- we're at the exact minimum. But then you can call up folks from FFT or raid the indies pretty easily, so this isn't necessarily a problem....unless you do a Hardline Stance the second show and lose a huge chunk of dudes, lol
6. -Exdeath has turned pretty much everybody against Bartz
-Harth Stonebrew keeps becoming the owner of Comics, lol


1. Okay. So we could probably turn down some of the animosity lol. I opened up your screenshot.

-Barthandelus is kind of a dick with Lightning and Sazh. That one's pretty personal because he's basically ruining their lives so that one's the same.
-Bartz and Ex-Death could be turned down. Bartz is more of a pest to Ex-Death.
-Cecil is weird because *SPOILER* he and Golbez are related and there is no other way to have simmering tension and blood relative. If we want to go just Blood Relative instead of family feud then we can probably keep that the same.
-That point for Cecil goes for Jecht and Tidus and Kuja and Zidane.
- Final Fantasy 6 is so screwed up I am almost inclined to keep Kefka, Terra, and Celes the same.
-Gilgamesh is rivals with Bartz and worked for Ex-Death. His can be turned way down.
-Onion Knight and Cloud of Darkness also don't need to hate each other.
- Ultimecia tries to control Squall's girlfriend so she probably needs to stay the same.
- Finally, I don't know why Black Mage, Mateus, Lady Lilith, Mog, and Ultros are upset about because I don't remember them disliking anyone.

2. I don't know what the performance skills are on the top of my head.

3. So I went back and looked at the spreadsheet and it was supposed to be an even 3 and 3.
Faces: WoL, Cloud, Lightning
Heels: Garland, Mateus, and Sephiroth

I know you took Cloud for Character Battle and Lightning had no popularity stats so that means the system had 1 face to 6 heels lol. Fixing Lightning, would make it 2 faces and 5 heels. Basically, it looks like they are looking for 8. So if we bump Squall to ME and Jecht to ME it should give us.
Faces: WoL, Squall, Lightning, Cloud
Heels: Garland, Mateus, Sephiroth, and Jecht.

4. This is surprising to me because the FFWD kept dominating the Power 500. Do you think it might be the product settings or do their stats just need buffed?

5. So with the New Dissidia Game coming out Ramza is included in the roster so it may not be the worst thing to add 3 FFT's to the roster. Plus, I added 6 people for FFXIV or FFXV. Were they there when you played? They also added Ace from Type 0. If I do the whole, Face/Heel/Tweener thing that I have been doing. That's an even 12. Would that make the roster big enough?

6. I know this is bad but it's a little funny that an evil overlord is manipulating people against his enemy. Perfect villain move there.

To CPU/Lopen's points we could probably Garland, CoD, Golbez, Sephiroth, Kuja, Ject, and Gabranth all a bit nicer.
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IhatethisCPU
12/13/17 11:07:12 AM
#119:


Do ya want me to handle those while I got the file? Might be an extra day or two incidentally, been distracted by life, but I did get Trails handled and am about a quarter through FAs. Undertale and PW seem mostly done already, too.
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eaedwards6400
12/13/17 11:09:36 AM
#120:


I think that would be easier than you passing it back to me and then me passing it back to you. I would do all of them except for number 5. I think we should check Tom's thoughts first.
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Tom Bombadil
12/13/17 11:35:01 AM
#121:


eaedwards6400 posted...
I don't know what the performance skills are on the top of my head.


Face/Heel/different gimmick types

eaedwards6400 posted...
Finally, I don't know why Black Mage, Mateus, Lady Lilith, Mog, and Ultros are upset about because I don't remember them disliking anyone.


Most of the ones I checked on were "toxic backstage environment" which I think is just the general morale being in the toilet. I'll also probably make the rules nicer a bit too.

eaedwards6400 posted...
This is surprising to me because the FFWD kept dominating the Power 500. Do you think it might be the product settings or do their stats just need buffed?


That's a good question actually. Comics has taken that kinda-dominant spot now, btw. I'll keep an eye on it for now.

I can fix Lightning and the callups if CPU doesn't mind/feels comfortable toning down personalities (and relationships?) and adding performance skills.
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eaedwards6400
12/13/17 12:10:37 PM
#122:


The Callups Pop is going to need to be adjusted too because they were set to have the popularity of the Main Roster not the side roster. Right now, I believe the way it is set they would basically be no higher than LOW Midcarder but I don't remember exactly how it is setup
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eaedwards6400
12/13/17 12:11:27 PM
#123:


Also, I don't know if the FFXIV and XV people were added and I never made Type-0 people if that was the direction we wanted to go.
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Tom Bombadil
12/13/17 12:28:39 PM
#124:


What color are they on your sheet

What's type 0
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eaedwards6400
12/13/17 1:03:59 PM
#125:


They are yellow. I have only put them on there I believe in the last 6 months.

Final Fantasy Type-0 was a non-main line Final Fantasy Game. Not that great but they added it's main character, Ace to Dissidia. I was considering adding 3 characters from that game to the FFWD roster since you said it needed to be a tiny bit bigger.
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Tom Bombadil
12/13/17 4:29:19 PM
#126:


KH
-Balance is pretty good
-Eraquis, Scar, and Old Xehanort are missing Performance
-Pete's gimmick doesn't work. Will investigate.
-I don't think Mickey is ever gonna stick with this roster longer than a cup of coffee before getting poached, lol

As for the FF guys, I changed the colors. The two that were already in the game are on the FFWD roster, but the other four don't even exist yet. Will snag them at some point, and that will probably be fine for roster size purposes unless you just wanted to add more

I wonder what happened here o_O
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eaedwards6400
12/13/17 4:32:06 PM
#127:


I'll add them for the consistency for the new game. Don't look at the sheer until tomorrow I will add them at work.
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Tom Bombadil
12/13/17 4:33:07 PM
#128:


They're on the sheet already
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eaedwards6400
12/13/17 4:35:07 PM
#129:


For my notes, what 2 guys?
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Tom Bombadil
12/13/17 4:37:42 PM
#130:


Nero and Thancred are in the game. The other four are statted but not in the game. Shouldn't need anything from you on that point, I don't think
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eaedwards6400
12/13/17 7:16:13 PM
#131:


I am gonna add 3 from Type 0 and pick my 3 from Tactics (all if which are in the Game but not on the roster)
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IhatethisCPU
12/13/17 8:32:29 PM
#132:


I can add performance skills, but I don't feel wholly comfortable adjusting personalities.
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eaedwards6400
12/13/17 8:36:48 PM
#133:


Go ahead and do the performance skills and just nudge down the personality don't overhaul thrn
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Tom Bombadil
12/14/17 12:37:57 PM
#134:


Bonus day: Did ages for LotR. Quite an adventure, it was.

Testing Shining Force today (I'm not picking on eaed, I'm just skipping CPU/Lopen until they've done their bits and his feds are alphabetically before mine generally :P)
-Needs at least two storylines to not take penalties. Not critical, but would be nice for players.
-Nick has no gimmicks set or performance.
-For some reason a bunch of the wrestlers don't have wrestler as a role. I'll fix that.
-Dark Dragon, Astral, Slade also missing performance
-Women's wrestling is currently set to "none," which penalizes the women you have. I assume that should be "integrated" instead? (there's also "division")
-Money might be an issue, but that's just part of the game when you're that small.
-Possibly more- not done yet.

Would probably be easiest for you to just tell me (or screencap) what you want for storylines and performance here.
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eaedwards6400
12/14/17 2:16:46 PM
#135:


Women should be set to integrated.

Nick is a King. I don't know if such a gimmick exists.
I don't remember what I wanted for their performances. I do know that Astral should probably always be face and Dark dragon should always be heel. While Slade could be both being that he is a treasure hunter.

Storylines let's go simple and go Brother vs Brother storyline is Max vs Kane. Generation gap: Bowie vs Dark Dragon. And go SHINING Force CD: Nick and Deanna vs Woldol and Iom
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eaedwards6400
12/14/17 3:05:54 PM
#136:


I also, put all new editions in RED and they are stated. This also goes for Ehrgeiz. I pulled Delita and Ramza straight from Ehregiz. They may need a popularity change.
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IhatethisCPU
12/14/17 6:03:18 PM
#137:


About haaaalfway through my stuff, not expecting much to do tomorrow or Saturday, should actually be set on schedule. Got the performance things for FFWD other than Lightning as well.
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Tom Bombadil
12/14/17 8:49:46 PM
#138:


<3
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IhatethisCPU
12/14/17 9:29:28 PM
#139:


you might want to slightly prune my relationship page when you get the database back however, other than the one with Batman.

>_> <_<
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IhatethisCPU
12/15/17 1:14:21 AM
#140:


uploaded newest file. pretty sure I got everything, but it *is* 1:13 in the morning as I say this
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eaedwards6400
12/15/17 7:38:29 AM
#141:


Tom do you want me to intervene real quick and fix and add my stuff?
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Tom Bombadil
12/15/17 8:07:44 AM
#142:


If you can do that in like a day sure

Don't wanna keep Lopen waiting too long since I'm kinda pushing you guys fast and I can do most of your stuff anyway
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Tom Bombadil
12/15/17 9:29:52 AM
#143:


https://gyazo.com/a972761c1988d3c70e4a2f3f8eee3272
what you say !!
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Tom Bombadil
12/15/17 9:34:20 AM
#144:


https://gyazo.com/e887fb97e388d64ff9d08090dc26131e
there's a good joke to be made here I'm sure of it
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eaedwards6400
12/15/17 10:04:12 AM
#145:


Tom Bombadil posted...
https://gyazo.com/e887fb97e388d64ff9d08090dc26131e
there's a good joke to be made here I'm sure of it


How does this happen??? Lol

Side note, my boss is out today I think I could do this real quick.
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Tom Bombadil
12/15/17 2:22:21 PM
#146:


Go for it then :D

GCB
-Their show ratings are pretty okay on autobooker, but not good enough to sustain their high pop. I THINK they can maintain National status reasonably easily, so I don't have a major problem with them being set up to enter a bit of a slump.
-I'm considering using Written contracts instead of Touring.
-I THINK I know how to set up Touring schedule shows now. Maybe.
-There is some overlap with gimmicks, which results in small penalties. Will address.
-I may want to give them some performance buffs, since all the really old characters were done in 2013 where the default settings are lower. But they did okay, so maybe I won't bother.
-I'm tempted to lower the match ratio because that'd boost their show ratings, but I don't think that's worth messing with the flavor. There ain't promos in the real thing!
-SBAllen had poor chem with CATS and was kinda eh anyway, so I replaced him with Castle Heterodyne. The Castle lasted about a week, causing two incidents and getting mad enough over the discipline to walk out when given a hardline stance. ....That's fair.

SWEET BABY RAYS
https://gyazo.com/5d7156d89a0301dd1d7c1596207a6f83
(I'm taking that with a grain of salt because I was not scheduling shows properly)
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IhatethisCPU
12/15/17 3:22:09 PM
#147:


Yeah that seems about right for the Castle. ^__^''
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eaedwards6400
12/16/17 9:42:39 AM
#148:


So if Lopen wants to go he can, something came up yesterday and I was not able to get what I wanted done. :-(
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Tom Bombadil
12/16/17 12:58:49 PM
#149:


and somehow in the middle of UCA drama and a new TLK age....

GCW
-Violetta and Zola have no gimmicks or performance. Hey, I can fix that myself now!
-Midcard is all heels (although one is Violetta who'll wind up face I assume). I propose also turning Tarvek face.
-Might wanna boost the Comedy performance a bit across the board- the product requires Comedy matches, and those didn't do great in the two shows I did. Then again I just did autobook and slapped a Comedy note somewhere it seemed to fit okay.
-Backstage rating: 21. That's....not entirely unfitting, I guess. >_>
-Two botch-induced injuries in one show. That's....also not entirely unfitting, I guess <_<
-Backstage dropped to 7 after that show, where Alice Liddell also wrestled high.
-Raiding is a thing: https://gyazo.com/e949ffb4167b001438c3ee9275b868df
-Some companies keep switching out some of the titles I set. I have the option to lock titles so that won't happen, but I'm not sure whether I want to.
-OTHAR TRYGGVASSEN, GENTLEMAN FIGUREHEAD I see no potential issue with th-whoops there he goes to homestuck
lol: https://gyazo.com/bd141cc3538886715a600554622a4da8
-It gets confusing going between this where GCW is a small fed and the 1985 diary where GCW is a contender for world's top fed
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IhatethisCPU
12/16/17 1:14:18 PM
#150:


...I could've sworn that I- bloody hell. >_<'

...And that's prolly a reaaallly good idea... Tarvek turn and Comedy boost both...

....Yeah- yeaaaah- dammit Alice. .__>'
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