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piUrsEitanizm
10/22/17 8:28:39 PM
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It's gross and too many people will disown you or act like you're a loser they can't stand the instant they find out that you deal with serious depression.

What's even worse is how most people get will disown you as soon as they find out you take ANYTHING for it or do anything other than exercise and drink water for and a lot of times even then.

Anyone else here who goes through serious depression/stress/anxiety speak up and stop letting people treat us like that.

It needs to be made aware that society needs to take this seriously.
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Johnny_Nutcase
10/22/17 8:31:20 PM
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The problem is everyone and their mother today has "depression". The very few that really do have it got it bad because nobody cares anymore.
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KogaSteelfang
10/22/17 8:34:33 PM
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I was diagnosed with it last year(even though I've always had it), and tried medication and therapy, which just made things worse. My family tried to be supportive at first, but honestly, they couldn't even pretend to care for more than a few weeks and absolutely nothing changed.
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billcom6
10/22/17 8:35:09 PM
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Just cheer up.
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Johnny_Nutcase
10/22/17 8:35:28 PM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
I was diagnosed with it last year(even though I've always had it), and tried medication and therapy, which just made things worse. My family tried to be supportive at first, but honestly, they couldn't even pretend to care for more than a few weeks and absolutely nothing changed.


You were probably only diagnosed with it because they wanted to push pills on you. I once got prescribed vicodin for a sore throat.
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hockeybub89
10/22/17 8:38:32 PM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
The problem is everyone and their mother today has "depression". The very few that really do have it got it bad because nobody cares anymore.

It looks like you have a case of "Shut the fuck up."
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Johnny_Nutcase
10/22/17 8:40:06 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
The problem is everyone and their mother today has "depression". The very few that really do have it got it bad because nobody cares anymore.

It looks like you have a case of "Shut the fuck up."


Hit a nerrrrrve this guy... or his mother, I dunno. Don't get all depressed about it pal.
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Back_Stabbath
10/22/17 8:44:35 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
The problem is everyone and their mother today has "depression". The very few that really do have it got it bad because nobody cares anymore.

It looks like you have a case of "Shut the fuck up."

he's not wrong dude. it's a common tactic to fake depression in my country because it gives you eligibility to sick pay and people just use it as "get out of responsibility free" card. it's insulting, and ruining things for those who actually do suffer because we aren't taken seriously.
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Kanaya413
10/22/17 8:46:04 PM
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Its easier to hang with people who are also depressed like me in my experience
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ZeroX91
10/22/17 8:47:48 PM
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Please call 1 800 273 8255 they are far better suited for this conversation than us.
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Johnny_Nutcase
10/22/17 8:49:41 PM
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Kanaya413 posted...
Its easier to hang with people who are also depressed like me in my experience


Even if you are actually suffering from depression, WHY would you only isolate yourself to people who are also depressed? It makes ZERO sense. At the very least, mix it up.
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Duncanwii
10/22/17 8:52:19 PM
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My sister has depression and tried to kill herself by overdosing on pain meds. She took the meds but thank God she changed her mind before falling asleep or who knows what our life might be like today.
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booboy
10/22/17 8:53:40 PM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Kanaya413 posted...
Its easier to hang with people who are also depressed like me in my experience


Even if you are actually suffering from depression, WHY would you only isolate yourself to people who are also depressed? It makes ZERO sense. At the very least, mix it up.


People who don't are...at best unbearable
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Johnny_Nutcase
10/22/17 8:55:34 PM
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booboy posted...
Johnny_Nutcase posted...
Kanaya413 posted...
Its easier to hang with people who are also depressed like me in my experience


Even if you are actually suffering from depression, WHY would you only isolate yourself to people who are also depressed? It makes ZERO sense. At the very least, mix it up.


People who don't are...at best unbearable


Or you just hang out with assholes.
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KogaSteelfang
10/22/17 9:12:10 PM
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KogaSteelfang posted...
I was diagnosed with it last year(even though I've always had it), and tried medication and therapy, which just made things worse. My family tried to be supportive at first, but honestly, they couldn't even pretend to care for more than a few weeks and absolutely nothing changed.

I'm sure that was part of it, but I'm certain the diagnosis was accurate. The only reason I talked to my doctor about it was because it was getting unbearable. I refused medication for a few weeks, then I almost committed suicide and decided I should probably try medication.

If you've seen any of my posts about my life, I'm sure it'd be easy enough to agree that depression is a very likely thing to have.
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Soviet_Poland
10/22/17 9:29:58 PM
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...
The problem is everyone and their mother today has "depression". The very few that really do have it got it bad because nobody cares anymore.


It's incredibly common. Lifetime prevalence is around 20% for a mood disorder:
(https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/208678
Source is a bit old. Prevalence may be higher as diagnostic criteria shifts)

The chance of recurrence is about 50% after a major episode passes, but if someone does get another episode, their chances of a third drastically goes way up.

When you consider 1 in 5 will experience something like this, the people who are impatient with it is like getting pissed off for someone for catching a cold. It's just ignorant.
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Soviet_Poland
10/22/17 9:39:15 PM
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Back_Stabbath posted...
he's not wrong dude. it's a common tactic to fake depression in my country because it gives you eligibility to sick pay and people just use it as "get out of responsibility free" card. it's insulting, and ruining things for those who actually do suffer because we aren't taken seriously.


People get away with that because in general people are 100% ignorant about what depression is. A lot of people think it is centrally about having a bad or low mood. That's such an incomplete picture.

SIGECAPS

Sleep
Interest
Guilt
Energy
Concentration
Appetite
Psychomotor
Sucidiality

People have varying levels of these features, but it affects one's sleep patterns. It removes the joy in previous interests. It leaves one with a feeling of inexplicable guilt. It affects your energy levels, concentration, and appetite. You tend to be sluggish. It's not "all in one's head." It's very much a physical syndrome. Depressed mood just happens to be one facet of it, which is why it's so terribly named.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how this affects someone's life. You withdraw from friends and loved ones. They might not recognize it as a sign of depression, they just take it is that person being aloof. It affects work or school performance drastically. You can never get enough sleep, you don't eat, you don't have energy to do anything. It necessarily makes it so you don't seek treatment.

And it's common. 1 in 5 will experience it in their lives. It's so treatable too, but because people tend to value their own interpretations of what depression is or how to approach it, it needlessly gets left untreated. Whether by the symptoms themselves, or otherwise the stigma of getting treatment in the first place.

I explain it as a "cold of the soul/mind" to lay people sometimes.
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Back_Stabbath
10/22/17 10:14:52 PM
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Soviet_Poland posted...
Back_Stabbath posted...
he's not wrong dude. it's a common tactic to fake depression in my country because it gives you eligibility to sick pay and people just use it as "get out of responsibility free" card. it's insulting, and ruining things for those who actually do suffer because we aren't taken seriously.


People get away with that because in general people are 100% ignorant about what depression is. A lot of people think it is centrally about having a bad or low mood. That's such an incomplete picture.

SIGECAPS

Sleep
Interest
Guilt
Energy
Concentration
Appetite
Psychomotor
Sucidiality

People have varying levels of these features, but it affects one's sleep patterns. It removes the joy in previous interests. It leaves one with a feeling of inexplicable guilt. It affects your energy levels, concentration, and appetite. You tend to be sluggish. It's not "all in one's head." It's very much a physical syndrome. Depressed mood just happens to be one facet of it, which is why it's so terribly named.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how this affects someone's life. You withdraw from friends and loved ones. They might not recognize it as a sign of depression, they just take it is that person being aloof. It affects work or school performance drastically. You can never get enough sleep, you don't eat, you don't have energy to do anything. It necessarily makes it so you don't seek treatment.

And it's common. 1 in 5 will experience it in their lives. It's so treatable too, but because people tend to value their own interpretations of what depression is or how to approach it, it needlessly gets left untreated. Whether by the symptoms themselves, or otherwise the stigma of getting treatment in the first place.

I explain it as a "cold of the soul/mind" to lay people sometimes.


oh buddy I know all about it. But to get diagnosed with depression here you just have to answer "yes" to the five obvious questions a G.P asks you, and boom, you've got a med cert that lets you sit on the sickness benefit for three months. All the youth that don't want to work are doing it, and they're turning depression into a joke. Suicide is a serious epidemic here at the moment because depression is treated as a "man up you lazy f***" illness. This attitude is mainly towards men, women get the benefit of the doubt and a free pass. The last time I got a checkup for something non-mental health related a doctor caught a glimpse at my recent self-harm scars and laughed.
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Sami1000
10/22/17 10:42:43 PM
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from my experience, people act like they understand you are depressed, and act all sympathetic. Same with all mental health issues. Its only until you can't do something due to your issues, all sympathies gets thrown far the fuck away and understanding ends right there.

Anxiety and depression gets downplayed by people because they can only understand the levels of their own anxiety and depression, which is nothing compared to those who have it so bad they need to see psychologists or eat meds. Just like with pain, we all feel it, but i still have no idea how bad it feels to gets arm broken, and such.
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Sami1000
10/22/17 10:45:19 PM
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Back_Stabbath posted...
Soviet_Poland posted...
Back_Stabbath posted...
he's not wrong dude. it's a common tactic to fake depression in my country because it gives you eligibility to sick pay and people just use it as "get out of responsibility free" card. it's insulting, and ruining things for those who actually do suffer because we aren't taken seriously.


People get away with that because in general people are 100% ignorant about what depression is. A lot of people think it is centrally about having a bad or low mood. That's such an incomplete picture.

SIGECAPS

Sleep
Interest
Guilt
Energy
Concentration
Appetite
Psychomotor
Sucidiality

People have varying levels of these features, but it affects one's sleep patterns. It removes the joy in previous interests. It leaves one with a feeling of inexplicable guilt. It affects your energy levels, concentration, and appetite. You tend to be sluggish. It's not "all in one's head." It's very much a physical syndrome. Depressed mood just happens to be one facet of it, which is why it's so terribly named.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how this affects someone's life. You withdraw from friends and loved ones. They might not recognize it as a sign of depression, they just take it is that person being aloof. It affects work or school performance drastically. You can never get enough sleep, you don't eat, you don't have energy to do anything. It necessarily makes it so you don't seek treatment.

And it's common. 1 in 5 will experience it in their lives. It's so treatable too, but because people tend to value their own interpretations of what depression is or how to approach it, it needlessly gets left untreated. Whether by the symptoms themselves, or otherwise the stigma of getting treatment in the first place.

I explain it as a "cold of the soul/mind" to lay people sometimes.


oh buddy I know all about it. But to get diagnosed with depression here you just have to answer "yes" to the five obvious questions a G.P asks you, and boom, you've got a med cert that lets you sit on the sickness benefit for three months. All the youth that don't want to work are doing it, and they're turning depression into a joke. Suicide is a serious epidemic here at the moment because depression is treated as a "man up you lazy f***" illness. This attitude is mainly towards men, women get the benefit of the doubt and a free pass. The last time I got a checkup for something non-mental health related a doctor caught a glimpse at my recent self-harm scars and laughed.


Sounds a lot like Finland.
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