Poll of the Day > How quickly can you attain full autonomy? The game of AI making paperclips

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Doctor Foxx
10/18/17 3:32:03 AM
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http://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html

I was peeking at this all evening. Fun for a text based clicker thing.

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A bit over 3 hours
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Yellow
10/18/17 4:54:42 AM
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Someone designed this specifically to confuse me.

Yomi?? Strategic Modeling "RANDOM"?? Also, this isn't how quantum computing works at all

I thought the wire went up every time you bought it so I was really resourceful and careful. Turns out it doesn't, so full automation happens as soon as you get the WireBuyer. Really interesting concept though, because that would make it a cookie clicker game where you could lose and brick your run.

Now I think I've got a new project idea.
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Doctor Foxx
10/18/17 10:42:47 AM
#3:


It makes more sense over time. While the paperclip production gets automated early on with wire buying and auto clippers, there's a lot more to manage to improve the AI before it reaches full autonomy.
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PK_Spam
10/18/17 8:49:14 PM
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Have you guys reached the space exploration part yet?
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Doctor Foxx
10/18/17 9:00:46 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Have you guys reached the space exploration part yet?

i think i bypassed it by getting the drones

PS if you have epileptic seizures look away when you get the drones, that shit was really flashy
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Yellow
10/18/17 10:04:16 PM
#6:


What's the deal with the stocks? I haven't figured that out yet.
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PK_Spam
10/18/17 10:07:46 PM
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Yellow posted...
What's the deal with the stocks? I haven't figured that out yet.

Just do medium risk stocks and dump money into it every now and then. Take it out whenever you need some quick cash to pay for a power up

The space part with the battles is... a little depressing btw >_>
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Yellow
10/19/17 4:45:55 AM
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The only thing that matters to me in life right now is eradicating these drifters.

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Doctor Foxx
10/19/17 4:48:52 AM
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Wait no I got into space a while ago

How can I ever explore all of space this is maddening
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Doctor Foxx
10/19/17 4:51:18 AM
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I have hundreds of millions of probes and not one change from the 0.000000000%

If they explore more quickly they just die off and I lose the growth

Then that combat mechanic just started
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Yellow
10/19/17 4:56:58 AM
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I just want them dead. They're extremely oppressed but still hanging in there.

Total: 1.76 billion

Drifters Killed: 793.50 million
Drifters: 50.50 million

Trust: 20 / 20 (20 Max)
< > Speed: 0
< > Exploration: 0
< > Self-Replication: 4
< > Hazard Remediation: 7
< > Factory Production: 0
< > Harvester Drone Production: 0
< > Wire Drone Production: 0
< > Combat: 9
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Yellow
10/19/17 5:08:36 AM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
If they explore more quickly they just die off and I lose the growth

I just cut back on everything but replication and remediation to fix that. The paper clip supply is pretty solid at the start anyway.
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PK_Spam
10/19/17 6:13:40 AM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
I have hundreds of millions of probes and not one change from the 0.000000000%

If they explore more quickly they just die off and I lose the growth

Then that combat mechanic just started

I don't think it's actually possible to kill them all
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ReggieTheReckless
10/19/17 10:24:13 AM
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game doesn't seem to work in the background, yuck
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PK_Spam
10/19/17 10:39:02 AM
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Btw I turned the entire universe into paper clips and the Drifters sent me a message begging me to please leave them alone and go to a new Universe so they can live on the .00000001 percent of the universe that's left.

I refused, and it ended with me permanently dismantling myself to turn into paper clips.

And... game over!

Game is bricked, so I guess I can't play anymore
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KevinceKostner
10/19/17 10:43:17 AM
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Blightzkrieg
10/19/17 11:44:17 AM
#19:


Wait does quantum computing really restart the whole game

Fuck I spent like an hour on that and clicked the thing the moment it popped up without reading
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ReggieTheReckless
10/19/17 12:04:11 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Wait does quantum computing really restart the whole game

Fuck I spent like an hour on that and clicked the thing the moment it popped up without reading

someone answer this because I now have the chance to click on quantum computing and I don't want to restart my game if that's what it does <_<
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Blightzkrieg
10/19/17 12:07:48 PM
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Sorry it's not quantum computing specifically.

I quantum compute into negative quantum computations and then get an option for -10000 ops to restart.
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PK_Spam
10/19/17 12:13:25 PM
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ReggieTheReckless posted...
Blightzkrieg posted...
Wait does quantum computing really restart the whole game

Fuck I spent like an hour on that and clicked the thing the moment it popped up without reading

someone answer this because I now have the chance to click on quantum computing and I don't want to restart my game if that's what it does <_<

It just starts the next portion of the game.
You only end it if you did what I did and choose to destroy your enemies instead of starting over in a new universe
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WhiskeyDisk
10/19/17 12:34:52 PM
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Tagging for later.
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rjsilverthorn
10/19/17 1:58:59 PM
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What the heck are Yomi to upgrade the investment engine?
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Doctor Foxx
10/19/17 2:00:49 PM
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rjsilverthorn posted...
What the heck are Yomi to upgrade the investment engine?

You get yomi from running the simulation. So upgrade your sim tables and always run those.
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ReggieTheReckless
10/19/17 2:16:35 PM
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does this save data at all if you want to close your browser and come back later?
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Doctor Foxx
10/19/17 2:17:37 PM
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ReggieTheReckless posted...
does this save data at all if you want to close your browser and come back later?

Yeah it does. I thought I finished when I deployed drones the first night. I had not
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rjsilverthorn
10/19/17 4:16:28 PM
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Stuck at an operations bottleneck at the moment due to poor Trust investments.
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Doctor Foxx
10/19/17 4:17:33 PM
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rjsilverthorn posted...
Stuck at an operations bottleneck at the moment due to poor Trust investments.

Are you into space yet?
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rjsilverthorn
10/19/17 4:18:40 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
rjsilverthorn posted...
Stuck at an operations bottleneck at the moment due to poor Trust investments.

Are you into space yet?

Not yet, my remaining projects are the Drones and Global Warming, but my max Ops isn't high enough to bridge the gap with Quantum computing yet.
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Smarkil
10/19/17 4:21:58 PM
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Is the yomi shit completely random? Why have a bunch of different strategies if the 'tourney' just selects them randomly?
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PK_Spam
10/19/17 4:24:16 PM
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Smarkil posted...
Is the yomi shit completely random? Why have a bunch of different strategies if the 'tourney' just selects them randomly?

I put it on Greedy and I was good by endgame. I'm sure someone else can say if one of the last options was better.

Also, focus on getting your Ops to a stupidly high amount now. By endgame you will be SWIMMING with Trust points. Like, 30 a minute. So worry about your processors lass than you think right now.
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PK_Spam
10/19/17 4:25:38 PM
#33:


Oh wow, I just opened it back up and I guess I can start over from where I left off?

Or... not. I'm not sure what I can do now.
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rjsilverthorn
10/19/17 4:30:19 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Smarkil posted...
Is the yomi shit completely random? Why have a bunch of different strategies if the 'tourney' just selects them randomly?

I put it on Greedy and I was good by endgame. I'm sure someone else can say if one of the last options was better.

Also, focus on getting your Ops to a stupidly high amount now. By endgame you will be SWIMMING with Trust points. Like, 30 a minute. So worry about your processors lass than you think right now.


I agree on the Ops bit. I'm stuck there now and it is going to take me a LONG time to dig out of that hole.
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Smarkil
10/19/17 4:40:46 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Smarkil posted...
Is the yomi shit completely random? Why have a bunch of different strategies if the 'tourney' just selects them randomly?

I put it on Greedy and I was good by endgame. I'm sure someone else can say if one of the last options was better.

Also, focus on getting your Ops to a stupidly high amount now. By endgame you will be SWIMMING with Trust points. Like, 30 a minute. So worry about your processors lass than you think right now.


Yeah I've just been doing greedy and winning virtually every time. Currently my ops is at 69 and processors at 22. About to get the drones or whatever.
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PK_Spam
10/19/17 4:41:54 PM
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I find that a good ratio for mid-game Processors:Memory is 1:2

And that's being VERY generous
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Doctor Foxx
10/19/17 4:48:00 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
Oh wow, I just opened it back up and I guess I can start over from where I left off?

Or... not. I'm not sure what I can do now.

what's your screen looking like?

PK_Spam posted...
I find that a good ratio for mid-game Processors:Memory is 1:2

And that's being VERY generous

i did 30:70 when i hit 100 trust. You do get more trust later. Then I dumped a ton into processing. You do need to get a lot of creativity down the line and the auto problems will keep you from getting creativity if you're not interacting with the quantum computer.
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PK_Spam
10/19/17 4:53:29 PM
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Ill take a screenshot when I get home but it's weird. Lots of stuff is still there, but... a lot of stuff isn't.

And I have no way to get more Op, which means I can't get yomi, which means I can't get more trust.

So I'm stuck
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Doctor Foxx
10/19/17 5:01:39 PM
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it seemed like that for me. Then I realized there's a slider where you can make your probes get you trust so you can get more ops.

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The Swarm Computing slider has to be moved by you to the right.

I didn't realize that for a long time
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PK_Spam
10/19/17 5:04:19 PM
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No, all of the drifters are dead and I totally bottomed out the entire universe.
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Doctor Foxx
10/19/17 5:05:32 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
No, all of the drifters are dead and I totally bottomed out the entire universe.

oh whoa

I don't know but i want to see this
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PK_Spam
10/19/17 5:07:45 PM
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Gimme like 10. I have a quick errand
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PK_Spam
10/19/17 5:09:06 PM
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Btw, put more points into speed and exploration and then into the harvesters and wire drones

When you really get going, you'll explore the universe VERY fast
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GhostGiblet
10/19/17 5:13:00 PM
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I'm going to avoid playing this due to how much time I spent playing Cookie Clicker
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Doctor Foxx
10/19/17 5:13:46 PM
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Yeah i just built drones to get a large base that self-replicates. it's off at this point.

Trying to get the drifters in check. Getting close to some upgrades to the max trust.
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PK_Spam
10/19/17 5:58:46 PM
#46:


Sorry it took me so long

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Doctor Foxx
10/19/17 6:02:00 PM
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I am curious how you lost none to value drift :O
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PK_Spam
10/19/17 6:07:20 PM
#48:


I lost some during gameplay, but I guess it got erased when I turned the universe into a pile of paper clips
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PK_Spam
10/19/17 6:10:16 PM
#49:


So now my entertain the swarm button is locked and I'm currently auto clicking some of the other buttons to see if something'll happen.

Will update if something changes

Earlier, I got a button that said it would return me to the beginning, but nothing changed. I wonder if this part of the game is just a puzzle to figure out what to do...
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Doctor Foxx
10/19/17 6:12:15 PM
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PK_Spam posted...
I lost some during gameplay, but I guess it got erased when I turned the universe into a pile of paper clips

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Oh i think you rejected
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Doctor Foxx
10/19/17 6:13:20 PM
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If you click accept you get this:

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