Poll of the Day > South Park: The Fractured but Whole is a fantastic game

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_PandaMaster_
10/16/17 2:55:43 PM
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Really good game. Biggest upside? The story. They really outdid themselves. Plot twists galore, plus turning the "South Park nonsense" up past the maximum.

Damn good game.
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RCtheWSBC
10/16/17 3:03:01 PM
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I totally forgot about it after multiple delays. It's not too late to pre-order, is it?

omg $90 for the gold edition makes me weep
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FellWolf
10/16/17 3:27:41 PM
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It's a fantastic name
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OmegaTomHank
10/16/17 3:29:03 PM
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Stick of Truth was awesome too but too short.
Finished everything including side quests in like a week
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ZiggiStardust
10/16/17 3:32:37 PM
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maaaaan, i'm having so much trouble deciding between getting this, assassin's creed origins, or wolfenstein 2 next, ok?
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RCtheWSBC
10/16/17 3:34:10 PM
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ZiggiStardust posted...
maaaaan, i'm having so much trouble deciding between getting this, assassin's creed origins, or wolfenstein 2 next, ok?

silly Ziggi, infants can't play any of those
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ZiggiStardust
10/16/17 3:39:18 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
ZiggiStardust posted...
maaaaan, i'm having so much trouble deciding between getting this, assassin's creed origins, or wolfenstein 2 next, ok?

silly Ziggi, infants can't play any of those

infants play the game of sleeping 16 hours a day! daddy's gotta pass the time somehow, right?

i already pre-ordered mario odyssey... which comes out on her delivery day, lol
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ParanoidObsessive
10/16/17 3:47:58 PM
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_PandaMaster_ posted...
Really good game. Biggest upside? The story. They really outdid themselves. Plot twists galore, plus turning the "South Park nonsense" up past the maximum.

That's more or less how I'd have reviewed Stick of Truth after playing it.

I went into playing that game expecting it to be bad (doubly so because I wasn't a fan of the combat mechanics at first), and it wound up being awesome. It was especially appealing because it felt funnier to me than the actual show has for years now - it gave me the impression that they've been mostly half-assing the show (except for maybe 1-2 episodes per season) for a long time, but put all of their effort and interest into developing the narrative of the game.

I've been hoping the new game lives up to that high standard, though I've been holding off on buying it until I could hear some reviews. The shitty marketing practices of the game industry has left me incredibly wary and jaded when it comes to pretty much any new release, but especially anything with a strong hype train or that is part of an established franchise.


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ReggieTheReckless
10/16/17 3:50:57 PM
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that's out already? weird... I wasn't even paying attention
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helIy
10/16/17 4:26:33 PM
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i'm skipping it because obsidian didn't make it, some shitty ubisoft studio did.

the battle system was needlessly changed for, in my opinion, the worse.

and i don't like coon and friends
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ZiggiStardust
10/16/17 4:28:21 PM
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helIy posted...
i don't like things, ok?

yeah, we know, ok?
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helIy
10/16/17 4:30:31 PM
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coon and friends was one of the weakest storylines in the entire series, so yeah
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MICHALECOLE
10/16/17 4:47:42 PM
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I wish it was coming out for the switch

Would be perfect for that.
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Zikten
10/16/17 7:43:06 PM
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can you really pick between 2 factions? cause I would rather fight alongside Kenny than Cartman. Mysterion is my favorite south park character
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ParanoidObsessive
10/17/17 1:12:50 AM
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helIy posted...
i'm skipping it because obsidian didn't make it, some shitty ubisoft studio did.

To be fair, as much as I actually like Obsidian (and Black Isle before them), I'd be hard-pressed to actually think of any part of Stick of Truth that felt like something quintessentially Obsidian, or that NEEDED them to be the ones making the game.

Obsidian(and Black Isle)'s #1 strength has always been in their writing, but that's removed almost entirely from the equation if Matt and Trey are more or less writing the whole game themselves. At that point all that's really left is gameplay mechanics - which has always been something Obsidian has a history of stumbling over *cough*Alpha Protocol*cough*.


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helIy
10/17/17 1:16:16 AM
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well

their one baldurs gate like game is pretty damn good though
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ParanoidObsessive
10/17/17 1:24:02 AM
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It's probably pretty hard to fuck up the gameplay when you're deliberately mimicking the quirks and playstyle of a 20-year old game for pure nostalgia rush.


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helIy
10/17/17 1:47:36 AM
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they still had to design the game, make the story, ect.

it's probably obsidians best game to date, tbh.

metacritic reflects that, it's their highest rated game
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wwinterj25
10/17/17 1:53:12 AM
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ZiggiStardust posted...
maaaaan, i'm having so much trouble deciding between getting this, assassin's creed origins, or wolfenstein 2 next, ok?

Went with Assassins Creed myself. I'd imagine this game will drop in price quick. Not because it's bad or anything but just because that's what happened with the first one IIRC.
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helIy
10/17/17 1:53:46 AM
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well if you buy this one, you get the first one for free!

i can't help but think they made this game $60 because of that, because it feels like it should be a $40 game
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wwinterj25
10/17/17 1:55:18 AM
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helIy posted...
well if you buy this one, you get the first one for free!

i can't help but think they made this game $60 because of that, because it feels like it should be a $40 game

Then why was Stick of Truth a full priced game?
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helIy
10/17/17 2:03:09 AM
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it dropped to $40 like a week or two after its release, so i don't know if i'd consider that a good example for you tbh
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wwinterj25
10/17/17 2:06:17 AM
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helIy posted...
it dropped to $40 like a week or two after its release, so i don't know if i'd consider that a good example for you tbh

... but TFBH probably will too and still include the first game so....
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helIy
10/17/17 2:06:47 AM
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you might have a point there
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_PandaMaster_
10/17/17 6:03:28 PM
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Zikten posted...
can you really pick between 2 factions? cause I would rather fight alongside Kenny than Cartman. Mysterion is my favorite south park character


The answer to this question involves plot-related spoilers.
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ParanoidObsessive
10/18/17 4:05:54 PM
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helIy posted...
they still had to design the game, make the story, ect.

Obsidian didn't make the story, though.

Stick of Truth was basically the opposite of how Obsidian has a history of operating. A lot of their games basically take someone else's game engine and improve on it, and deliver a stronger story because all of the old Interplay/Black Isle writers wound up in Obsidian after the cataclysm. Stick of Truth was basically them providing the gameplay mechanics for a narrative, setting, and gameplay ideas the South Park guys came up with.

Most of the positive score isn't coming from the contributions Obsidian brought to the table, it's more because it was pretty much the first South Park game ever that Trey and Matt actually had a ton of input on that consequently felt like something more than half-assed garbage.

When you take out everything other than the pure gameplay mechanics, it's not really all that interesting or worthwhile a game. I'd be tempted to say that it's far from their best game in that respect, but then again, as previously established, a lot of their games were piggybacking off someone else's game engine/mechanics anyway, so it's hard to point to any game (other than maybe Alpha Protocol) as being distinctly "Obsidian" in that sense.

I loved the game, but I doubt it would have felt all that much different if the mechanical side of things had been handled by someone like BioWare or Bethesda and not Obsidian.


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helIy
10/18/17 8:02:37 PM
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of what I played of the new game, it lacks the charm and polish the first game has

also you responded to what I said about their pillars of eternity game like I was talking about stick of truth. I was talking about pillars there, ofc obsidian had nothing to do with the story in stick
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Sarcasthma
10/18/17 8:07:00 PM
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Just got the game. Im extra-hyped now that I know helly doesnt like it. :p
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helIy
10/18/17 8:09:03 PM
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it's decent, but not as good as the first one

the only thing i said i didn't like was the coon and friends storyline in the show, so i'm not too sure where you got the idea that i said i didn't like the game as whole.
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Sarcasthma
10/18/17 8:10:14 PM
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Youre helly; not liking things is kind of your thing.
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helIy
10/18/17 8:10:56 PM
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i like generally everything

people just tend to focus on the 6 things i've said i don't like for some reason
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Sarcasthma
10/18/17 8:11:52 PM
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Well I hope you like Japanese snacks because Im still getting some ready for you.
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helIy
10/18/17 8:13:45 PM
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oh man, i forgot all about that.

i'm excited to see what you'll send!

hopefully nothing with mushrooms though because i am allergic, just fyi
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Sarcasthma
10/18/17 8:16:05 PM
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Its all candy. Unless you want some dried cuttlefish, too.
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helIy
10/18/17 8:19:38 PM
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i'm willing to try generally anything
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Sarcasthma
10/18/17 8:20:21 PM
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Any other allergies besides mushrooms?
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helIy
10/18/17 8:21:57 PM
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nope, just mushrooms
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Sarcasthma
10/18/17 8:23:39 PM
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Alright. Thats enough off-topic posts from me.
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Lobomoon
10/18/17 8:24:37 PM
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I hope it's at least as good as The Stick of Truth. I remember finishing The Stick of Truth and when I actually got to that post credit scene when you press button to *spoiler* I nearly fell out of my chair laughing.
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Kimbos_Egg
10/18/17 8:40:00 PM
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almost beat it
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OmegaM
10/18/17 11:27:18 PM
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How do you fracture a hole anyway?
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helIy
10/18/17 11:46:00 PM
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look up anal fissure
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Kimbos_Egg
10/18/17 11:47:29 PM
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i beat it.
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helIy
10/18/17 11:50:13 PM
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what's your time
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Lobomoon
10/18/17 11:52:57 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
i beat it.


Now go play the game.
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_PandaMaster_
10/19/17 8:12:11 PM
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Lobomoon posted...
Kimbos_Egg posted...
i beat it.


Now go play the game.


*south park caliber joke*
LMAO
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