Current Events > Why don't they just do a bullet to the head in state executions?

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Or one of those No Country for Old Men cattle gun things. Is suffering part of the punishment? Seems like death would be enough.
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This is not rhetorical.
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it's considered unethical treatment. And, no one can confirm if a bullet to the head is painless
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Bullet to the head isn't necessarily instant death like it's shown in movies and games. There's been people who suffered for minutes to hours, and even survived bullets to the head.
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What the above said. There's also the fact that family and others observe the execution and it would be a lot more graphic/traumatizing to people

FightingGames posted...

it's considered unethical treatment. And, no one can confirm if a bullet to the head is painless

Lethal injection is not necessarily painless, they just can't express it.
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We can hide the gore. We have the technology. Where there's a will there's a way. And it's no less ethical or more painful than electrocution or gas.
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And do 2 or 3 bullets to be sure.
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ledbowman posted...

We can hide the gore. We have the technology. Where there's a will there's a way. And it's no less ethical or more painful than electrocution or gas.

ledbowman posted...

And do 2 or 3 bullets to be sure.

I'm not opposed, I was just answering your question. For me, if you did something so vile to get sentenced to death, undeniably, I don't care how they die. I do stress "undeniably".
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I think there's no good reason it can't be an option for the criminal.
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I still haven't been convinced that the execution method is not intended to be torturous.
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Why not just go full bore with a 12 gauge magnum slug to the back of the head. The odds of surviving that for more than a second have to be next to 0.
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Bring back the guillotine!
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RE_expert44 posted...

Why not just go full bore with a 12 gauge magnum slug to the back of the head. The odds of surviving that for more than a second have to be next to 0.

Exactly.
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Part of the reason is that it fucks up the person actually doing the execution to do it so personally.
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pegusus123456 posted...

Part of the reason is that it fucks up the person actually doing the execution to do it so personally.

Executions period are pretty shitty.
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pegusus123456 posted...

Part of the reason is that it fucks up the person actually doing the execution to do it so personally.

What about having a machine that can effectively do the same thing?
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ledbowman posted...

RE_expert44 posted...

Why not just go full bore with a 12 gauge magnum slug to the back of the head. The odds of surviving that for more than a second have to be next to 0.

Exactly.

Chances are the person being executed still has a family or something. You can't just blown their fucking face apart.
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I second the guillotine method. 20 seconds max of surviving afterwards, guaranteed death, and it's even cheaper than bullets.
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glitteringfairy posted...

ledbowman posted...

RE_expert44 posted...

Why not just go full bore with a 12 gauge magnum slug to the back of the head. The odds of surviving that for more than a second have to be next to 0.

Exactly.

Chances are the person being executed still has a family or something. You can't just blown their fucking face apart.

Ok, so let's step back to three or five quick cattle gun shots to the top of the head by a machine design for executing humans.
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Sabram posted...

I second the guillotine method. 20 seconds max of surviving afterwards, guaranteed death, and it's even cheaper than bullets.

Consider the cost of the device though compared to a firearm and one bullet. Stack that against how many executions there are in that state annually. Prisons already have firearms on hand, so it's just the cost of one bullet. Say a guillotine costs $800, that would be hundreds of executions for it to pay for itself.
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As people have mentioned;
- No one can tell us how painful it is.
- It's not as guaranteed as people say.
- Guns have a chance to misfire or malfunction.

Is that firing squad thing true where only one gun is really loaded so no one truly knows who kills the criminal so they dont take the guilt?
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Touch posted...

Is that firing squad thing true where only one gun is really loaded so no one truly knows who kills the criminal so they dont take the guilt?

I don't believe so, from what I understand, there are multiple bullet wounds, and a final shot to the head at the end of it for insurance.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

Touch posted...

Is that firing squad thing true where only one gun is really loaded so no one truly knows who kills the criminal so they dont take the guilt?

I don't believe so, from what I understand, there are multiple bullet wounds, and a final shot to the head at the end of it for insurance.

Also added is the fact that blanks can actually be lethal, and that without blanks, it'd be pretty obvious whose gun didn't go off.

Where the hell did I read that shit then lol

I will forever be curious
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Dash_Harber posted...

As people have mentioned;
- No one can tell us how painful it is.
- It's not as guaranteed as people say.
- Guns have a chance to misfire or malfunction.

Again, it can't be more painful than electrocution if done right and is certainly quicker. Despite no testimony from dead people, I don't really think there can be much dispute that having your brain destroyed is relatively merciful. Malfunctioning is something that can happen with any method so I don't really see it as a factor.
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ledbowman posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

As people have mentioned;
- No one can tell us how painful it is.
- It's not as guaranteed as people say.
- Guns have a chance to misfire or malfunction.

Again, it can't be more painful than electrocution if done right and is certainly quicker. Despite no testimony from dead people, I don't really think there can be much dispute that having your brain destroyed is relatively merciful. Malfunctioning is something that can happen with any method so I don't really see it as a factor.

I was actually comparing it to the toxic cocktail method.

Touch posted...

Where the hell did I read that shit then lol

I will forever be curious

I've read it, or heard of that before also. After looking into it some, I found it to be one of those misconceptions.
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Dash_Harber posted...

ledbowman posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

As people have mentioned;
- No one can tell us how painful it is.
- It's not as guaranteed as people say.
- Guns have a chance to misfire or malfunction.

Again, it can't be more painful than electrocution if done right and is certainly quicker. Despite no testimony from dead people, I don't really think there can be much dispute that having your brain destroyed is relatively merciful. Malfunctioning is something that can happen with any method so I don't really see it as a factor.

I was actually comparing it to the toxic cocktail method.

But then don't your first and third points also fall under the cocktail?
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pegusus123456 posted...

Part of the reason is that it fucks up the person actually doing the execution to do it so personally.

This.
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ledbowman posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

ledbowman posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

As people have mentioned;
- No one can tell us how painful it is.
- It's not as guaranteed as people say.
- Guns have a chance to misfire or malfunction.

Again, it can't be more painful than electrocution if done right and is certainly quicker. Despite no testimony from dead people, I don't really think there can be much dispute that having your brain destroyed is relatively merciful. Malfunctioning is something that can happen with any method so I don't really see it as a factor.

I was actually comparing it to the toxic cocktail method.

But then don't your first and third points also fall under the cocktail?

Well even if someone could tell you what it's like to die of poison cocktail, you still can't compare it to being shot in the head because you have no baseline for being shot in the head. On top of that, from all accounts I am aware of, the poison is relatively peaceful.

As for misfiring; I'm sure the poison can go wrong, but I'd guess that it has a smaller chance to fail than a gun, even if by a small chance.