Current Events > My take on how the Bible was created.

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God wrote chicken scratch in a blank sketchbook and dropped the book from the clouds.
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he could have killed someone doing that!
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He prefers to transmit his messages through flaming foliage and nuclear radiation, actually.

Guy drinks water infested with bacteria
Becomes delusional from bacteria eating his brain
Writes book
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lilORANG posted...

he could have killed someone doing that!

Musta been a gay guy.
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Ryuk is a death god, I guess
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2000 years from now someone reads Star Wars and bases a religion around it thinking it's a historical document.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

2000 years from now someone reads Star Wars and bases a religion around it thinking it's a historical document.

No, they wouldn't. We actually have technology to preserve our knowledge. More importantly, we can tell when something is written to be fiction, even when its old, like Robin Hood.

Sayoria posted...

God wrote chicken scratch in a blank sketchbook and dropped the book from the clouds.

Rofl never thought you were smart and this proves it.

Had you actually had any sort of idea wtf you're talking about you would know God told a bunch of guys to write some shit down and they wrote a book about a divine being and his son that is littered with plot holes.
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How offensive!
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Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

2000 years from now someone reads Star Wars and bases a religion around it thinking it's a historical document.

No, they wouldn't. We actually have technology to preserve our knowledge. More importantly, we can tell when something is written to be fiction, even when its old, like Robin Hood.

Bahahahhahahahhaahhashhahahhaahh
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TheKingOf-Kings posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

2000 years from now someone reads Star Wars and bases a religion around it thinking it's a historical document.

No, they wouldn't. We actually have technology to preserve our knowledge. More importantly, we can tell when something is written to be fiction, even when its old, like Robin Hood.

Bahahahhahahahhaahhashhahahhaahh

Because I total believe that the Epic of Gilgamesh actually happened!

Was Robin Hood written 2017 years ago though? I thought it was much, much later than that, like in the 1400's
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MabusIncarnate posted...

Was Robin Hood written 2017 years ago though? I thought it was much, much later than that, like in the 1400's

It's actually a folk tale spread orally much before that. The story takes place around the third crusade, IIRC, but probably dates to after. Likely, though, it is probably a reworking of some older legend.

Anyway, point is, the Bible took thousands of years of careful planning and highly structured propaganda to spread. At no point did someone just dig up a copy and go 'Gee, look, a new way of life!".

Comparatively, The Epic of Gilgamesh is one of the oldest written stories, and people have not believed it to be factual for thousands of years.

Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

Was Robin Hood written 2017 years ago though? I thought it was much, much later than that, like in the 1400's

It's actually a folk tale spread orally much before that. The story takes place around the third crusade, IIRC, but probably dates to after. Likely, though, it is probably a reworking of some older legend.

Anyway, point is, the Bible took thousands of years of careful planning and highly structured propaganda to spread. At no point did someone just dig up a copy and go 'Gee, look, a new way of life!".

Comparatively, The Epic of Gilgamesh is one of the oldest written stories, and people have not believed it to be factual for thousands of years.

Interesting, i'm pretty ignorant to this kind of thing, I was genuinely curious. I often do wonder, that elaborate stories translated over and over across a span of 2000 years and how many generations of man, that the credibility of what it is now compared to what it was intended to be is entirely discombobulated. It's like when you play that game in elementary school, and the teacher whispers something in your ear, and each kid whispers it to the next, and at the end of the line, the last kid says something so far off from what was originally said.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

Was Robin Hood written 2017 years ago though? I thought it was much, much later than that, like in the 1400's

It's actually a folk tale spread orally much before that. The story takes place around the third crusade, IIRC, but probably dates to after. Likely, though, it is probably a reworking of some older legend.

Anyway, point is, the Bible took thousands of years of careful planning and highly structured propaganda to spread. At no point did someone just dig up a copy and go 'Gee, look, a new way of life!".

Comparatively, The Epic of Gilgamesh is one of the oldest written stories, and people have not believed it to be factual for thousands of years.

Interesting, i'm pretty ignorant to this kind of thing, I was genuinely curious. I often do wonder, that elaborate stories translated over and over across a span of 2000 years and how many generations of man, that the credibility of what it is now compared to what it was intended to be is entirely discombobulated. It's like when you play that game in elementary school, and the teacher whispers something in your ear, and each kid whispers it to the next, and at the end of the line, the last kid says something so far off from what was originally said.

Yeah, I get that. I just see so many factors working against that specific scenario that it is improbable, bordering on impossible;
- The internet needs to end.
- Society needs to regress to around a late medieval era level. Despite this, we still need advanced archeological practices, ancient linguistic skills, and the knowledge and ability to work a DVD player.
- All context clues have to disappear. That means all records of discussions, all posters, all documentaries, all toys, all costumes, etc. Yet, despite two millennia of atrophy, a single DVD needs to survive, and only a single DVD.
- Language needs to stagnate for 2,000 years. In reality, language has evolved even in our lifetimes. Books written in the early 1900's can prove challenging for novice readers. In fact, we can't even read English from the 600's without training. This is still in a scenario where something has wiped out all recording technology and the internet. Alternatively, people in said medieval society need to have knowledge of a 2,000 year old language.
It would just be so ridiculously contrived. Basically, someone would have to purposely set up the scenario, in which case the authoritative party would need to actually be aware of the fraud.

Irony posted...

Guy drinks water infested with bacteria
Becomes delusional from bacteria eating his brain
Writes book

Sounds plausible
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The religious leaders gathered a small ammount of all available religious texts, cherrypicking the ones that fit their views the best and changing some parts that they disliked, and then declared war against people that had a different view of their religious characters.
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MabusIncarnate posted...

2000 years from now someone reads Star Wars and bases a religion around it thinking it's a historical document.

and Darth Revan still isn't canon
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Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

MabusIncarnate posted...

Was Robin Hood written 2017 years ago though? I thought it was much, much later than that, like in the 1400's

It's actually a folk tale spread orally much before that. The story takes place around the third crusade, IIRC, but probably dates to after. Likely, though, it is probably a reworking of some older legend.

Anyway, point is, the Bible took thousands of years of careful planning and highly structured propaganda to spread. At no point did someone just dig up a copy and go 'Gee, look, a new way of life!".

Comparatively, The Epic of Gilgamesh is one of the oldest written stories, and people have not believed it to be factual for thousands of years.

Interesting, i'm pretty ignorant to this kind of thing, I was genuinely curious. I often do wonder, that elaborate stories translated over and over across a span of 2000 years and how many generations of man, that the credibility of what it is now compared to what it was intended to be is entirely discombobulated. It's like when you play that game in elementary school, and the teacher whispers something in your ear, and each kid whispers it to the next, and at the end of the line, the last kid says something so far off from what was originally said.

Yeah, I get that. I just see so many factors working against that specific scenario that it is improbable, bordering on impossible;
- The internet needs to end.
- Society needs to regress to around a late medieval era level. Despite this, we still need advanced archeological practices, ancient linguistic skills, and the knowledge and ability to work a DVD player.
- All context clues have to disappear. That means all records of discussions, all posters, all documentaries, all toys, all costumes, etc. Yet, despite two millennia of atrophy, a single DVD needs to survive, and only a single DVD.
- Language needs to stagnate for 2,000 years. In reality, language has evolved even in our lifetimes. Books written in the early 1900's can prove challenging for novice readers. In fact, we can't even read English from the 600's without training. This is still in a scenario where something has wiped out all recording technology and the internet. Alternatively, people in said medieval society need to have knowledge of a 2,000 year old language.
It would just be so ridiculously contrived. Basically, someone would have to purposely set up the scenario, in which case the authoritative party would need to actually be aware of the fraud.

aka the foundation is morbidly flawed
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I think it would be even better if the toys and movies survived, because that would be used as proof that it is an old religion.
The movies are clearly adaptions of the holy scripts, which have been lost in time, and the surviving toys were clearly used in worship rituals.
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Foppe posted...

I think it would be even better if the toys and movies survived, because that would be used as proof that it is an old religion.
The movies are clearly adaptions of the holy scripts, which have been lost in time, and the surviving toys were clearly used in worship rituals.

Except, again;
- Atrophy
- Human Regression
- Language Evolution
- Cataclysmic failure of society that destroys all data storage methods, all collective knowledge of fiction, all academic studies, but leaves a single DVD player and a copy of Star Wars which disappears for a few generations and then suddenly reappears.
- If we forget about atrophy for a second, that means that things like documentaries and director commentaries would exist too.
It's an inherently flawed premise.

We get too dependent on technology, EMP bombs sends us back to stoneage, the survivors are forced to go back to a hunting/collector community, after a few generations everything are a fairy tale, and then a lost spaceship crashes with one surviving Android.
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Foppe posted...

We get too dependent on technology, EMP bombs sends us back to stoneage, the survivors are forced to go back to a hunting/collector community, after a few generations everything are a fairy tale, and then a lost spaceship crashes with one surviving Android.

- EMPs are currently fictional, especially on a world wide scale.
- If technology is wiped out (and by that, I mean electronics, because books can't be EMP'd) that doesn't mean everyone instantly turns into a neanderthal.
- The idea that somehow one device could survive, and somehow people will still speak the same language (despite languages experience much more extreme changes over even shorter periods of time).

Like, if you dug up an ancient Aramaic tablet right now, could you read it? Would your first thought be 'this is a new guide to life!"?

The scenario is that we get too dependent to technology.
Just look at how people cant take some free time from their smartphones, and they were first introduced 20 years ago.
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Foppe posted...

The scenario is that we get too dependent to technology.
Just look at how people cant take some free time from their smartphones, and they were first introduced 20 years ago.

That's not the scenario at all. The scenario here is that technology disappears over night, and reappears thousands of years later only to be misinterpreted by the randomly stupefied masses of humanity.