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TheMarthKoopa
10/10/17 6:14:01 PM
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http://gematsu.com/2017/10/nis-america-apologizes-quality-ys-viii-localization-fix-due-end-november

And at the same time confirm the PC port will still be more than a month away, when it was supposed to be a simultaneous release.
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Shadowplay
10/10/17 6:19:04 PM
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What's the translation comparable to? Like FFVII bad or worse?
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Powdered_Toast
10/10/17 6:21:56 PM
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Wow, I knew it would be a mess, but how badly did they fuck it up?
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nexigrams
10/10/17 6:25:34 PM
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At first I thought this was somehow about garbage collection, which I was confused how a developer could patch it.
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TheMarthKoopa
10/10/17 6:27:17 PM
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Powdered_Toast posted...
Wow, I knew it would be a mess, but how badly did they fuck it up?

https://imgur.com/a/g6f8y
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The Admiral
10/10/17 6:31:11 PM
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Eh. I've played (I think) every Ys game ever released, included the Super Famicom ones, and I think the story is pretty garbage for all of them. They're worth it for the gameplay, but the translation seems like a minor thing.
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SGT_Conti
10/10/17 6:59:16 PM
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RIP Archeozoic Big Hole
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Zack_Attackv1
10/11/17 8:20:50 PM
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NeonOctopus
10/11/17 8:21:42 PM
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apolloooo
10/11/17 8:22:43 PM
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i shudder if NISA ever get trails series.

i mean ys could be not story focused enough to get away with this but trails?

AAAAAaaaAAAAAAA

Xseed, our lord and saviour deliver us from this torment please
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Powdered_Toast
10/11/17 8:41:05 PM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
Powdered_Toast posted...
Wow, I knew it would be a mess, but how badly did they fuck it up?

https://imgur.com/a/g6f8y

Damn, some of those are really bad. They're like some awful fan translations I've seen.
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TheMarthKoopa
10/12/17 12:49:03 AM
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PC being pushed back to December isn't all that awful I guess... still got Cyber Nep Nep, Nights of Azure 2, Mary Skelter, and then Schoolgirl Zombie Hunters in November
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The23rdMagus
10/12/17 1:12:30 AM
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Remember when bad translations stayed bad translations and companies didn't offer to fix it?
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Irony
10/12/17 1:14:29 AM
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The23rdMagus posted...
Remember when bad translations stayed bad translations and companies didn't offer to fix it?

I remember Square Enix games
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sauceje
10/12/17 1:32:30 AM
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Irony posted...
I remember Square Enix games

Which ones exactly?
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tri sapphire
10/12/17 1:32:44 AM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
Powdered_Toast posted...
Wow, I knew it would be a mess, but how badly did they fuck it up?

https://imgur.com/a/g6f8y

So...who the fuck puts a space after using ellipses when they're not writing an academic paper or something?

While there are definitely legit complaints in there, some of it was just overly nitpicking to the point where I wish they wouldn't patch it.
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Irony
10/12/17 1:35:54 AM
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sauceje posted...
Irony posted...
I remember Square Enix games

Which ones exactly?

Tactics, Chrono Trigger, and FFVII to name some
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LArcEnCieIX
10/12/17 1:38:39 AM
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Irony posted...
sauceje posted...
Irony posted...
I remember Square Enix games

Which ones exactly?

Tactics, Chrono Trigger, and FFVII to name some


Off course
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fusespliff
10/12/17 1:40:43 AM
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Irony posted...
sauceje posted...
Irony posted...
I remember Square Enix games

Which ones exactly?

Tactics, Chrono Trigger, and FFVII to name some


None of those are Square Enix games though
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sauceje
10/12/17 1:42:06 AM
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fusespliff posted...
Irony posted...
sauceje posted...
Irony posted...
I remember Square Enix games

Which ones exactly?

Tactics, Chrono Trigger, and FFVII to name some


None of those are Square Enix games though

That's what I was gonna arrive at >_> Those are just Squaresoft.

tri sapphire posted...
So...who the fuck puts a space after using ellipses when they're not writing an academic paper or something?


Putting spaces after punctuation is grammatically accurate. Text in text-heavy things like games and books should be, at bare minimum, grammatically accurate.
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Irony
10/12/17 1:43:50 AM
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fusespliff posted...
Irony posted...
sauceje posted...
Irony posted...
I remember Square Enix games

Which ones exactly?

Tactics, Chrono Trigger, and FFVII to name some


None of those are Square Enix games though

Did someone else do War of the Lions, CT DS, and FFVII remaster?
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Foppe
10/12/17 1:43:52 AM
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A free patch?
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tri sapphire
10/12/17 1:45:41 AM
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fusespliff posted...
Irony posted...
sauceje posted...
Irony posted...
I remember Square Enix games

Which ones exactly?

Tactics, Chrono Trigger, and FFVII to name some


None of those are Square Enix games though

And Chrono Trigger doesn't belong with those other two.

While the SNES rpgs had their translation problems, they had more to do with cartridge limitations than with bad translations. More inaccurate than awkward.
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Foppe
10/12/17 1:49:53 AM
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I remember Square Electronic Arts.
...what were we talking about again?
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tri sapphire
10/12/17 1:51:54 AM
#26:


sauceje posted...
tri sapphire posted...
So...who the fuck puts a space after using ellipses when they're not writing an academic paper or something?


Putting spaces after punctuation is grammatically accurate. Text in text-heavy things like games and books should be, at bare minimum, grammatically accurate.


...Not when it comes to ellipses.

Using ellipses in any sense other than academic (in which case it has its own character rather than being three periods in a row, and can only be used to omit part of a quotation) requires nothing other than consistency within the work.
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sauceje
10/12/17 2:27:31 AM
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tri sapphire posted...
...Not when it comes to ellipses.

Using ellipses in any sense other than academic (in which case it has its own character rather than being three periods in a row, and can only be used to omit part of a quotation) requires nothing other than consistency within the work.

That's fair. The wikipedia article for Ellipsis doesn't mention which spacing option is the most appropriate for American English (it gives different options), but does mention that, in British English, when it represents a pause, it should be followed by a space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis#In_American_English
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Alucard188
10/12/17 2:35:43 AM
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Shadowplay posted...
What's the translation comparable to? Like FFVII bad or worse?


I haven't played it myself, but from what I gather, the translation feels very dry and literal. The game supposedly has a cracking story, but that's lost because of the poor quality of the translation. It's not Breath of Fire 2 bad, but it's still fairly unacceptable.
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JE19426
10/12/17 2:40:55 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
I haven't played it myself, but from what I gather, the translation feels very dry and literal. The game supposedly has a cracking story, but that's lost because of the poor quality of the translation. It's not Breath of Fire 2 bad, but it's still fairly unacceptable.


There are parts of the game that already have decent English names and NISA changed them to stupid ones.
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MwarriorHiei
10/12/17 2:42:17 AM
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Powdered_Toast posted...
Wow, I knew it would be a mess, but how badly did they fuck it up?

it was so bad, Ys and Falcom fans held an email campaign to inform Nihon Falcom about the bad localization. it got so big that Japanese news outlets started reporting the story.

pretty sure Falcom is forcing NISA to apologize and re-edit the script since NISA pretty much never does anything to fix their shitty localizations.
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