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KCF0107
10/15/17 2:45:25 PM
#401:


#28 Overall Picks

LT Davin Joseph (S2 by Steelers)
HB Courtney Lewis (S3 by Bills)
MLB Brandon Siler (S4 by Bills)
DT Marlon Favorite (S5 by Steelers)
LOLB Spencer Adkins (S6 by Bengals)
QB Tim Tebow (S7 by Jaguars)
MLB Luke Kuechly (S8 by Bills)

Adkins > Joseph > Tebow > Favorite > Lewis > Siler > Kuechly

Much like Mathias Kiwanuka, Adkins is doing everything in his power to keep this Bengals defense afloat. Through three seasons, he has started all 48 games and has put up 221 tackles, 14 sacks, 4 INTs, 3 FFs, and 2 FRs. The Bengals spent their first two draft picks on defense, and if they have the cap space, I assume they will continue to target it in free agency. Perhaps Adkins' tenacity can finally be rewarded with a playoff berth in a division where the winner went 6-10.

Joseph was released just two years into his rookie contract, and he landed with the Rams who had a phenomenal OL (it's still excellent), making him just an injury replacement and super sub. The older Rams OL eventually saw some retirements at G, which gave Joseph the opportunity to start there. He has 124 blocks against 18 sacks as a starting G for the Rams, which is an excellent figure for an interior OL. With players such as Todd Weiner and Damion McIntosh retirement candidates next offseason, Joseph might kick back out to OT in S10. Assuming he continues to perform like he has at G, it will be interesting if he can sustain it at OT.

Tebow has is another in that S7 (2011) QB draft class to see a big improvement from rookie to sophomore season. Unlike Alex Walton and Colin Kaepernick, he has been the starter for most of it. Before injuries forced the Jags to trot out rookie 3rd rounder Tom Herron, Tebow was have a stellar season that saw him in the Top 5 for passer rating and TD-INT ratio. This is still Adrian Peterson's offense, but Tebow is shaping up to be the best QB the Jags have had (with Trent Dilfer, Matt Leinart, and Drew Brees as his competition, that isn't a hard one to win).

I was recently asked if there's production changes (at the individual or team level) if you are a DT or MLB in a 3-4 or 4-3, and the answer is no. The 49ers' Frank Okam just tied for the league lead with 15 sacks. This all assumes that you are a starter. If you are a backup, that changes things. A backup DT in a 4-3 will see plenty of action while a 3-4 backup DT might not see the field. That was the case with Marlon Favorite who sat behind La'Roi Glover his rookie season and had 0 snaps. He won the job his sophomore season, lost it again his third season but played quite a bit due to a Glover injury, and finally had the starting job all to himself last season where he had a career high 6 sacks and 2 FRs. He is now the top DT with the Packers, and even if their defensive alignments are different, that won't change a thing if Favorite is the DT that he was last season.
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KCF0107
10/15/17 2:45:29 PM
#402:


The fourth HB taken in the S3 (2007) Draft, you have to wonder what Lewis' career would have been like if he landed in most other places. With a career 4.2 YPC, he is tied with the Adrian Peterson for highest in that draft class. While Peterson has done so with one team and a starting gig, Lewis has played for three teams, has just 13 starts to his name (all in two separate seasons), and is currently a free agent. Lewis was one of the two first round picks the Bills selected via draft picks in the Tom Brady trade.

Released by the Bills, Siler (the other 1st round pick selected with picks from Tom Brady trade) had a respectable if unspectacular career backing up the likes of Ronald McKinnon, Kailee Wong, and Jeremiah Trotter. Instead of taking over at MLB, the Pioneers have shifted him to DE where how he fares is anybody's guess.

Kuechly's career might forever be compared to Danny Trevathan, the higher-ranked MLB prospect that the Bills passed on. The Bills saw a mass exodus of LBs leave their team this offseason, and depending on if the Bills go after some of them in free agency, Kuechly might be a starting LB this season. In 16 games and 4 starts last season, he put up 21 tackles, 1 sack, and 1 FR for a middle-of-the-pack Bills' D.
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KCF0107
10/15/17 3:14:09 PM
#403:


#29 Overall Picks

DT Orien Harris (S2 by Rams)
LT Tavo Tupola (S3 by Bengals)
HB Marshawn Lynch (S4 by Jaguars)
DT Charles Alexander (S5 by Jets)
QB Ryan Perrilloux (S6 by Broncos)
SS Antoine Bethea (S7 by Dolphins)
DT Domata Peko (S8 by Falcons)

Alexander > Lynch > Harris > Bethea > Peko > Tupola > Perrilloux

Alexander has only been a starter for three seasons, but he had 130 tackles, 23 sacks, and 12 FFs during that span. He's learned from one of B8NFLL's best in Casey Hampton and looks to continue that in the post-Hampton era, whenever that may be.

A surprise first round pick, Lynch is arguably the ultimate insurance policy at HB in the league. He hasn't had a great career by any means with a 3.8 career YPC and basically no skills as a receiver, but he hasn't fumbled in the past four seasons and has 12 TDs in 14 career starts. I don't know how much longer the Jags can keep him happy as a backup, but they've certainly reaped the benefits of such an accommodating HB that would have started for so many teams during his career.

Harris has been the full-time starter three seasons in his long career with the Rams. Only once did he eclipse 4 sacks (12 in S3). That being said, I would say that he is a sack specialist, a rarity for DTs, as he averages 1 sack every 4 tackles in his career. He doesn't appear to have any other skill based on his FF and FR career totals. That is a terrible for a starter but seems like the perfect kind of backup DT if you ask me.

Unlike most starting SSs, Bethea has lower-than-average tackles and just 1 INT in his career. He did put up a whopping 6 FFs+FRs in his first season as a starter. As the defense looks to have three new starters for the second-consecutive season, he will need to help out the defending champs by taking it a step further, assuming he doesn't lose his starting job to second-year man Isa Abdul-Quddus.

The lowest-rated 1st round pick a season ago, Peko put up a respectable 5 sacks for both the Falcons and Titans. That Titans' D makes anyone nervous, but on paper, this appears to be the strongest it has been in several seasons. If this is the season the Titans finally become a league-average defense, Peko might find himself as a long-term starter than the career backup you would normally see sub-80 DTs have.

Tupola has averaged 20 blocks a season. If you take away his rookie season where he was the starting RT, then he has averaged 15 blocks a season as a backup/injury replacement. You can get that production in later rounds. He's a bust plain and simple.

In three seasons, Perrilloux has played 11 games. The longest he has made it through a season before suffering a season-ending injury is Week 6. He has a career 52.5 passer rating and 5 TDs against 13 INTs. He remarkably has never fumbled as a scrambling QB, but that's the only positive to take away from his career. He clearly has the worst career thus far, but with plenty of time to turn into a starting-caliber QB, he can quickly pass the likes of Tupola, Peko, and Harris.
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KCF0107
10/15/17 7:18:14 PM
#404:


#30 Overall Picks

CB Antwan Allen (S2 by Chiefs)
CB Jonathan Wade (S3 by Lions)
DT Frank Okam (S4 by 49ers)
RG Garrett Collins (S5 by Buccaneers)
QB Josh Freeman (S6 by Rams)
QB Cam Newton (S7 by Redskins)
CB Cortez Allen (S8 by Wildcats)

A. Allen > Okam > Wade > Collins > Freeman > C. Allen > Newton

Antwan has been a long, steady defender for the Chiefs. He had a career low in tackles and INTs, but as far as I can remember, the Chiefs have never had a Bottom 10 defense with Allen on the team. He's a true shutdown corner with a penchant for coming up with a few picks every season (he did have a season with 7 though). He's 30 now, so his best football is probably behind him, but this was one of the more unheralded careers by a first rounder even if the wheels are starting to come off.

Because of the 49ers' 3-4 D, Okam had to wait several years behind Gerard Warren before becoming the nose tackle in S7. For a steadily improving defense, he has 67 tackles, 22 sacks, 3 FF, and 2 FR in the past two seasons. He is just now entering his age 27 season and I'm sure that Scare is hoping for a rise in rating to go along with his production.

Sitting behind both Nathan Vasher and Anthony Henry, Wade was one of the rare CBs who didn't seem to work out as a slot corner. He totally killed it as a starter though, and those were the Lions' best years on defense. His interceptions have gone down every season since his first as a starter, but during those early seasons, the Lions' D was routinely in the Top 10 in Passing D, and this was in a division where the Bears had Javon Walker, Jerry Porter and Eric Johnson, the Packers had Lee Evans and Carnell Williams (a prolific receiving HB), and the Vikings had Darrell Jackson, Todd Heap, and DeAngelo Williams.

Collins alternates between stifling and frustrating seasons. In the good seasons, he has 64 blocks against 8 sacks. In the not-so-good seasons, he has 62 blocks against 26 sacks. Last season was a not-so-good season, so that's good news for a Bucs team without two mid-90s OTs from last season!

Do you know how many young QBs throw up seasons where they have low 2000 passing yards, an even TD:INT ratio, and mid-50s completion %? It seems like we have several a season. He's at least young enough to still carve out some sort of career, though it doesn't appear to be a starting one in St. Louis.

If prof is reading this, I hope that he doesn't take it the wrong way, but I cringed when I saw that the Wildcats wanted to trade up back into the 1st round with me to select a CB. If I had known that, I wouldn't have done that out of a moral obligation. Sending CBs to a talent-barren defense is a sure way to get them killed. Like in real life, you should start building in the trenches and work your way back. Long story short, the Wildcats' D finished second-to-last in yards allowed, which of course significantly hurt Cortez's development.

Now Newton has been terrible for the Redskins. Unhealthy, turnover-prone, and just wholly ineffective. Matt Moore was taken in the 2nd round of that same draft, and he might and probably should win the starting job over Newton if Russell isn't in the picture.
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KCF0107
10/15/17 7:48:50 PM
#405:


#31 Overall Picks

LG Max Jean-Gilles (S2 by Dolphins)
RE Jason Jack (S3 by Chiefs)
LOLB Lawrence Timmons (S4 by Broncos)
WR Kenny O'Neal (S5 by Dolphins)
HB Kestahn Moore (S6 by Jets)
RT King Dunlap (S7 by Ravens)
QB Robert Griffin (S8 by Steelers)

Jean-Gilles > O'Neal > Timmons > Dunlap > Moore > Jack > Griffin

Jean-Gilles has played and started all 112 games in his career. He has a career mark of 246 blocks against 45 sacks allowed. Nothing to write home about. If you take out an awful S3, it is 220 blocks against 34 sacks, which looks pretty good. Pretty good and durability is all it takes to take the top spot at #31 in one of the weakest crop of players for various reasons.

O'Neal has just 7 starts to his name and is the clear choice for #2. That is how sad this is. In four seasons, he has 1810 yards and has the highest YPC among all pass-catchers with at least 100 receptions in their career. It has been at 15.7 or above the past three seasons, including a 17.3 mark in S8. He's just five years younger than Andre Johnson, so if he sticks around on the Dolphins until AJ retires, he might not be a full-time starter until he is 30 or 31. A HoFer he will not be, but he might be the best slot receiver in B8NFLL right now.

Timmons is the only other player here to start multiple games in their career. He just tackles. All of his career sacks, INTs, and the lone FF came in his first two seasons. This is what gets you ranked third.

I guess Dunlap can be placed 4th. He has one start, 22 blocks, and 4 sacks allowed in his career. He sits behind a 25 and 29 year old OT. Maybe he will be an injury replacement at G or something.

Moore was a Top 10 projected pick that fell to the end of the 1st round. He has a career 4.2 YPC, but he has sat behind Larry Johnson and Romance Taylor and was traded to the Pioneers to be their #3 HB. He's already 28, so the chances of him ever exiting the preseason as a non-injury replacement start are very low by now. He doesn't have 150 carries yet, but he has 5 fumbles in the past two seasons. I just don't see him as much more than a change-of-pace back.

Jack played in 7 games his rookie season and recorded 2 sacks. He has not played a game since. I remember that the Chiefs had like 8 DEs on their roster for many seasons, so I guess he was just buried on the depth chart and left after his rookie season. He should probably get a second chance somewhere.

If I was convinced that Griffin was their heir apparent to Rex Grossman, I would probably move him above the player who hasn't played since S3 just based on the fact that he would then at least be given the opportunity. I would take the field as opposed to anyone on the roster, but if I had to choose, I say Gant.
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profDEADPOOL
10/15/17 8:01:08 PM
#406:


FB Greg Jones is on the trading block if anyone is interested in him
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KCF0107
10/15/17 8:09:59 PM
#407:


#32 Overall Picks

LOLB Chad Greenway (S2 by Buccaneers)
DT Rob Armstrong (S3 by Giants)
WR Ernie Wheelwright (S4 by Redskins)
TE Rory Nicol (S5 by Giants)
MLB David Harris (S6 by Titans)
WR Marques Colston (S7 by Lions)
MLB Danny Travathan (S8 by Cowboys)

Armstrong > Harris > Nicol > Greenway > Travathan > Colston > Wheelwright

By all accounts, Armstrong should still be the backup DT. Hell, maybe even the #4. The Giants used to have, in addition to Corey Simon, Jonathan Babineaux and Rien Long at the position. Both bolted for the big bucks after SB victories, and neither found themselves in the playoffs as a Titan/Falcon and Bear, respectively. Armstrong, at 28, is now the 7th highest-rated DT in the game and has 8 or more sacks in all but one of his seasons as a starter. The one season was last year where he added a pair of FF+FRs, so he at least made up for it in some way.

After all those years picking in the Top 10, the secret for drafting well for the Titans seems to have been cracked. Pick toward the end of the round. With the final pick of the first round, the Titans selected arguably their best draft pick to date in Harris. Even with missing 10 games last season, he still managed 5 sacks as a great all-around MLB. Through three seasons, he has 217 tackles, 12 sacks, 3 INTs, 2 FFs, and 7 FRs. He might not be the highest-rated player on that defense, but I'd like you to find someone more important.

Nicol's closest comparison is Zach Miller of the Dolphins. He will likely never be a candidate for TE of the Year, but he has value as a blocker and has stayed healthy while other Giant pass-catchers have not.

Greenway had 80 starts to his name prior to S8, and he recorded his first FF in that season. That's insane. For an OLB, he doesn't add much to the tackle department, but he does have 13 sacks and 9 INTs in his 7 year career, so he can make some plays, just not all of them.

I would not be surprised if Travathan is first in the rankings in two seasons, not to slight Armstrong or Harris. His rookie season as a backup wasn't amazing with 38 tackles and 1 FR, but that is a young, frightening defense. The odds of him not developing is probably low. The only question is if he will have the production to match it, so I will slot him here knowing he may very well leave everyone in his dust before long.

The Lions have such a huge logjam at WR that anyone outside of Lelie should be considered unreliable in the sense that you don't know how the ball distribution is going to be. They also lost arguably the GOAT in Peyton Manning to retirement. Colston does have 6 TDs on 37 career receptions, but as we all know, that is unsustainable.

The biggest loser from the QB play from the Redskins is probably Wheelwright. He sat behind Plaxico Burress and Randy Moss for all those years. He gets his first starting job in S8 and has 36 receptions for 338 yards, 2 TDs. With his size and speed, it is baffling that he seemingly was running short routes most of the time. If a new QB wins the starting job (like Matt Moore), I'm curious if his fortunes will change. The Redskins have primarily won with the run, so I'm not expecting any Pro Bowl-caliber seasons out of Wheelwright, but he should easily have more than double those yards in a remotely good offense.
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KCF0107
10/15/17 8:11:55 PM
#408:


Wildcats have cut the following players:

CB Marlin Jackson
RT Anthony Collins
SS Glenn Earl
DT Ryan Pickett
ROLB Ricardo Hurley
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ShatteredElysium
10/15/17 9:52:42 PM
#409:


Yeah in hindsight I should not have taken Griffin at all. I can't remember who was on the board at the time but I think I felt pressured into it by board state and was hoping he'd be like like an 82 or at least 81, I was super disappointed he was same rating as Gant. Especially as Gant was taken a year earlier yet is still a year younger, really wish he didn't miss an entire year on IR.

I'd far rather have Rocky Hands on the roster plus an extra high round pick and only one of Gant or Griffin. The contracts alone are a pain in the ass.
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KCF0107
10/16/17 1:01:38 AM
#410:


Titans release SS Antoine Sharp and LOLB Neefy Moffett
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mccheyne
10/16/17 1:38:33 AM
#411:


Is there any deadline for releasing players before free agency starts?
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KCF0107
10/16/17 1:53:20 AM
#412:


Not starts no, but if you want to make cuts prior to the end of the first phase of free agency (I will explain all this), you must PM with the header explicitly talking about cuts at least 96 hours prior to the end of that first phase.
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KCF0107
10/16/17 2:09:06 AM
#413:


The entire spreadsheet should be fully updated.

If everything goes right, I should be able to start free agency in the afternoon.
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MysteriousStan
10/16/17 2:25:36 AM
#414:


For those of you who don't read the NFL Discussion topic I present to you...the #1 Overall Pick in the draft: Kiko Alonso!

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Emeraldegg
10/16/17 10:58:58 AM
#415:


Its funny because that play represents what the dolphins did to the falcons...somehow
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KCF0107
10/16/17 2:36:46 PM
#416:


Free Agency

See all those players in the free agent sheet? Now is the time to attempt to sign them to your team. I say attempt because you will be, in theory, competing with 31 other teams for the services of every free agent.

Unlike the three previous offseason events involving signings, the desired deal that I will eventually list will usually not be enough to sign a player, and it definitely will not if it is any one of the top players available. If you do intend to seek out a top player, you will probably want to give a custom offer that is in excess of what they want. Whether that means years, total money, signing bonus, or a combination of the three is up to you.

I will not list every player on the free agent sheet, but you are free to ask for contract info for any player listed there that I do not post contract info for here. Also know that the players on the free agent sheet are just the Top 8 and bottom player player at each position. There are plenty more players available at every position, but they are all in the 9-to-second-to-last range at their position. If there's a particular kind of player you are looking for at a position, feel free to ask me, and I will let you know if someone fits that description.

There will be three periods of free agency. These are the tentative real life days each period will last:

1st - 9 days
2nd - 5 days
3rd - 1 day
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KCF0107
10/16/17 2:37:10 PM
#417:


Here are some sample contract offers that I will accept, including more simple approaches:

- 4 / $7.00 mil / $1.40 mil
- 5 / $9.00 mil / $2.00 mil
- 3 years default, +$1 mil total salary, +$500k signing bonus
- 2 years default

When you give me an offer, you are giving me your consent to offer the player the closest deal that he will consider, meaning that if you offer 4 / $6.00 mil / $2.00 mil and he will only consider it when it is 4 / $6.50 mil / $2.00 mil, I will offer him the latter. If that does not sit well with you, then you have the simpler options I previously laid out or you may explicitly say to not offer the contract unless he will consider those exact financials.

When you PM me the offers, I want you to PM me a header that says "[Your Team]'s Offers" so that I don't accidentally open them. I am the Dolphins' GM, so there could very well be some conflict of interests, and thus the best way around that is for me to not open those PMs until it is time to put in the offers and sim the game. I have default PM settings, so you can all tell if and when I open a PM of yours. If a fellow GM would like to volunteer to receive my PM offers to show that I am being fair and impartial, that would be great. If not, I hope that means you all trust me.

Under no circumstances may you ask me if so and so player will consider a certain deal or anything of that nature. You may ask me general questions regarding free agency, but nothing that goes against the spirit of free agency or give you a competitive advantage. If you do have a question, I prefer that you use the topic. If you wish to ask me via PM, make sure to be clear you are asking a question or I may not read it out of caution of it being a list of contract offers.

There are two types of contracts that I will never, ever accept

1. Any mention of the word "Maximum" relating to total salary or signing bonus.
2. A massive one year contract

The first one has in fact happened in the past, and I had to throw it out as it is both unfair in the laziest of ways and also impossible when it comes to total salary.

The second one is also unfair for teams with lots of cap space to also maintain artificial flexibility for future seasons by using up a lot cap space this season and then signing the player to an uncontested market value contract the following offseason, which then allows them to repeat this process as many times as they can/want.

Also, due to fairness issues, any cuts you make during free agency must be sent in:
96 hours prior to the end of Period 1
48 hours prior to the end of Period 2
Not allowed in Period 3
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KCF0107
10/16/17 2:48:46 PM
#418:


Two additional things that I feel that I need to point out:

1. Some positions are full of divas that once they reach a certain overall rating, they expect to start. If you are targeting a QB, HB, G, or C with a rating 82 or higher and aren't intending to start them, I highly recommend that you offer a two, possibly three, year deal at the max. That way, if they do ask for a trade during that contract, the risk . The downside to this is that you might lose out on the player due to superior deals, but I just wanted to give people word of caution because we've had A LOT of HBs demand trades over the years.

2. Free Agency is not just about users. Remember, we have 11 AI teams as well. The reason why I don't let people ask me questions to give them a competitive advantage is related to the AI teams more than anything. In consecutive offseasons, I have been asked what was the winning contract for X player in a previous offseason. I will not give out that info. The best you can do is study the team financial sheet and scan the contracts of user players to the best of your ability and if you keep a record of your own free agency offers through the years, you can use that as a baseline for players. You can also ask the contracts that your own players signed if that will help.
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KCF0107
10/16/17 3:24:54 PM
#419:


QBs
Jordan Steffy 4 / $15.64 mil / $3.16 mil
Jamarcus Russell 4 / $14.28 mil / $2.76 mil
Bobby Reid - 4 / $14.28 mil / $2.76 mil
Brian Brohm 5 / $14.45 mil / $2.40 mil
Matt Flynn - 5 / $14.45 mil / $2.40 mil
Josh Freeman - 5 / $14.45 mil / $2.40 mil
Ryan Fitzpatrick 3 / $7.98 mil / $1.32 mil
Anthony Morelli 5 / $13.30 mil / $2.20 mil
Derek Anderson 3 / $2.58 mil / $240k

HBs
Courtney Lewis 4 / $19.36 mil / $3.84 mil
Mewelde Moore 3 / $12.15 mil / $2.37 mil
Terry Longbons 4 / $16.20 mil / $3.16 mil
Marlon Lucky - 4 / $16.20 mil / $3.16 mil
Brandon Jackson - 4 / $14.56 mil / $2.80 mil
Ray Rice - 4 / $14.56 mil / $2.80 mil
Joseph Addai - 4 / $14.56 mil / $2.80 mil
Samkon Gado - 3 / $9.75 mil / $1.86 mil
Javon Riggs 4 / $3.84 mil / $560k

FBs
Tim Castille - 2 / $7.10 mil / $1.82 mil
Victor Mann - 2 / $6.58 mil / $1.58 mil
James Coleman - 2 / $6.35 mil / $1.48 mil
Mike Smith - 2 / $5.82 mil / $1.32 mil
Troy Fleming - 3 / $8.07 mil / $1.83 mil
Madison Hedgecock - 3 / $5.43 mil / $1.14 mil
Cory Anderson - 3 / $5.43 mil / $1.14 mil
Roger Allison - 3 / $4.74 mil / $960k
Brett McIntyre - 2 / $1.60 mil / $220k

WRs
Bryant Johnson - 3 / $12.72 mil / $2.13 mil
Todd Blythe - 4 / $15.56 mil / $2.60 mil
Brandon Lloyd - 3 / $11.67 ml / $1.95 mil
Jason Hill - 4 / $15.56 mil / $2.60 mil
Antonio Bryant - 3 / $10.59 mil / $1.77 mil
Tyrone Calico - 3 / $9.54 mil / $1.59 mil
J.J. Bedle - 3 / $9.54 mil / $1.59 mil
Reche Caldwell - 3 / $9.54 mil / $1.59 mil
Andy Dickerson - 3 / $3.30 mil / $390k

TEs
Joe Newton - 3 / $7.44 mil / $1.29 mil
James Dray - 3 / $6.45 mil / $1.02 mil
Garrett Mills - 4 / $7.48 mil / $1.12 mil
Octavius Darby - 4 / $7.48 mil / $1.12 mil
Jeff King - 4 / $7.04 mil / $1.04 mil
David Thomas - 4 / $6.56 mil / $960k
Andrew Clarke - 4 / $6.56 mil / $960k
Larry Donnell - 2 / $3.28 mil / $480k
David Ryan - 3 / $2.04 mil / $210k
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KCF0107
10/16/17 3:37:50 PM
#420:


OTs
Matt Light - 3 / $24.48 mil / $6.90 mil
Lewis Kelly - 3 / $11.43 mil / $2.73 mil
Tom Ashworth - 3 / $10.14 mil / $2.31 mil
Anthony Collins - 3 / $10.14 mil / $2.31 mil
Matt Hardrick - 4 / $11.80 mil / $2.52 mil
Michael Roos - 3 / $6.27 mil / $1.05 mil
Andrew Cameron - 5 / $10.10 mil / $1.65 mil
Geoff Schwartz - 5 / $10.10 mil / $1.65 mil
Chester Pitts - 2 / $3.34 mil / $500k

Gs
Willie Colon - 3 / $12.90 mil / $2.61 mil
Steve Sciullo - 3 / $11.67 mil / $2.34 mil
Cedric Dockery - 3 / $11.67 mil / $2.34 mil
Damien Woody - 3 / $10.41 mil / $2.07 mil
Adam Stenavich - 3 / $9.21 mil / $1.83 mil
Toniu Fonoti - 3 / $9.21 mil / $1.83 mil
Cooper Carlisle - 3 / $9.21 mil / $1.83 mil
John Simonitis - 3 / $7.98 mil / $1.56 mil
Michael Parenton - 4 / $2.88 mil / $240k

Cs
Josh McNeil - 2 / $5.98 mil / $1.34 mil
Wes Williams - 3 / $6.48 mil / $1.29 mil
Al Johnson - 3 / $6.09 mil / $1.17 mil
Andre Gurode - 3 / $5.67 mil / $1.05 mil
Na'Shan Goddard - 3 / $5.31 mil / $960k
Tim Schafer - 3 / $4.62 mil / $810k
Richie Gandy - 3 / $4.29 mil / $750k
Bruce Nelson - 3 / $4.29 mil / $750k
Russell Jacobs - 3 / $2.01 mil / $210k
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10/16/17 3:50:27 PM
#421:


DEs
Ryan Riddle - 3 / $16.92 mil / $3.90 mil
Richard Seymour - 3 / $14.73 mil / $3.27 mil
Shaun Ellis - 3 / $10.32 mil / $1.98 mil
Ryan Nece - 3 / $10.32 mil / $1.98 mil
Aaron Schobel - 3 / $10.32 mil / $1.98 mil
Alex Brown - 3 / $9.24 mil / $1.68 mil
Ben Taylor - 3 / $9.24 mil / $1.68 mil
Erasmus James - 3 / $7.05 mil / $1.05 mil
Darrick London - 4 / $3.88 mil / $440k

DTs
Kris Jenkins - 2 / $16.70 mil / $4.50 mil
Monsanto Pope - 3 / $10.11 mil / $1.98 mil
Brandon Maupin - 5 / $14.20 mil / $2.80 mil
Quinn Pitcock - 5 / $14.20 mil / $2.80 mil
Corey Clark - 5 / $14.20 mil / $2.80 mil
Gabe Long - 5 / $14.20 mil / $2.80 mil
Carlton Powell - 5 / $13.25 mil / $2.55 mil
Fili Moala - 5 / $13.25 mil / $2.55 mil
Andrew Smith - 4 / $4.76 mil / $600k

OLBs
Spencer Havner - 3 / $10.32 mil / $1.98 mil
Anthony Felder - 4 / $6.40 mil / $1.04 mil
Dwayne Holmes - 4 / $6.40 mil / $1.04 mil
Joshua Massey - 4 / $5.60 mil / $880k
Ernie Simms - 4 / $5.28 mil / $800k
John Kerr - 4 / $5.28 mil / $800k
Daniel Brooks - 4 / $5.28 mil / $800k
Shawn Crable - 4 / $5.28 mil / $800k
Aaron Griffin - 3 / $2.58 mil / $270k

MLBs
Korey Hall - 3 / $10.92 mil / $1.74 mil
Clifton Thompson - 3 / $8.67 mil / $990k
Curtis Lofton - 3 / $8.67 mil / $990k
Ben Leber - 3 / $6.21 mil / $600k
Lance Mitchell - 3 / $5.88 mil / $600k
Pat Lowery - 3 / $5.52 mil / $570k
Tim McGarigle - 3 / $5.52 mil / $570k
Justin Warren - 3 / $5.52 mil / $570k
James Martin - 3 / $2.73 mil / $270k
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10/16/17 4:06:45 PM
#422:


CBs
Ricky Manning - 3 / $8.85 mil / $900k
Ellis Hobbs - 3 / $7.77 mil / $810k
Justin Miller - 3 / $7.77 mil / $810k
Danny Gorrer - 5 / $11.20 mil / $1.20 mil
Roshaun Fellows - 5 / $11.20 mil / $1.20 mil
Harold Dalton - 5 / $11.20 mil / $1.20 mil
Tony Franklin - 5 / $11.20 mil / $1.20 mil
Stanford Routt - 3 / $6.72 mil / $720k
Steve Washington - 4 / $4.04 mil / $480k

FSs
Pat Pollard - 3 / $7.02 mil / $1.29 mil
Trevis Coley - 3 / $5.70 mil / $960k
Jahmile Addae - 4 / $7.60 mil / $1.28 mil
Terrance Washington - 4 / $7.60 mil / $1.28 mil
Jason Simpson - 4 / $7.04 mil / $1.16 mil
Vincent Meeks - 4 / $7.04 mil / $1.16 mil
John Gattis - 4 / $7.04 mil / $1.16 mil
Mark White - 4 / $7.04 mil / $1.16 mil
Calvin McCollum - 2 / $2.20 mil / $340k

SSs
Daniel Bullocks - 3 / $6.36 mil / $780k
Lamon Means - 3 / $6.36 mil / $780k
Paul Thomas - 3 / $4.62 mil / $660k
Chris Keys - 3 / $4.62 mil / $660k
Ben Emanuel - 3 / $4.62 mil / $660k
Dominique Brooks - 3 / $4.62 mil / $660k
Glenn Earl - 3 / $4.35 mil / $600k
Byron Cook - 2 / $2.90 mil / $400k
Eric Thompson - 3 / $2.55 mil / $330k

Ks
Jay Feely - 3 / $4.20 mil / $570k
Kris Brown - 3 / $3.87 mil / $510k
Billy Cundiff - 3 / $3.72 mil / $510k
Shayne Graham - 3 / $3.72 mil / $510k
Connor Hughes - 3 / $2.67 mil / $330k
Justin Medlock - 3 / $2.31 mil / $330k
Kevin Kelly - 3 / $2.31 mil / $330k
Greg Zuerlein - 2 / $1.58 mil / $220k
Sklyer Shelton - 1 / $450k / $30k

Ps
Aaron Perez - 2 / $1.82 mil / $500k
Chris Kluwe - 3 / $2.79 mil / $450k
Josh Bidwell - 3 / $3.15 mil / $450k
Jacob Richardson - 3 / $2.43 mil / $450k
Tim Reyer - 3 / $2.37 mil / $390k
Eric Wilbur - 3 / $2.37 mil / $390k
Jason Baker - 3 / $3.06 mil / $360k
Matt Bosher - 2 / $1.40 mil / $200k
Chris Bolden - 1 / $360k / $0k
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KCF0107
10/16/17 4:09:30 PM
#423:


The deadline to submit free agent offers for Round 1 will be Wednesday, October 25th at 5 PM ET

The deadline to cut players during Round 1 will be Saturday, October 21st at 5 PM ET


Remember to not hesitate in asking me questions. If you idle during free agency, any holes you have left on your team will be filled by the AI.
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profDEADPOOL
10/16/17 4:12:38 PM
#424:


Uh October 25th isn't a Saturday.
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KCF0107
10/16/17 4:13:47 PM
#425:


Titans have released MLB Jordan Dizon, he doesn't qualify to appear on the spreadsheet, so let me know if you are interested in a 73 overall, 27 year old MLB.
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10/16/17 6:46:00 PM
#426:


KCF0107 posted...
Some positions are full of divas that once they reach a certain overall rating, they expect to start. If you are targeting a QB, HB, G, or C with a rating 82 or higher and aren't intending to start them, I highly recommend that you offer a two, possibly three, year deal at the max. That way, if they do ask for a trade during that contract, the risk .

This got cut off, but what I was trying to say is that the risk is lower than usual because you have (presumably) invested less guaranteed money into them so your cap penalty if you do trade or release them is also lower.
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10/16/17 7:20:07 PM
#427:


Bills have released FS Corey Walton. If you want a 23 year old, 71 FS, here are his contract details

2 / $2.10 mil / $300k
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10/16/17 8:08:32 PM
#428:


KCF0107 posted...
When you PM me the offers, I want you to PM me a header that says "[Your Team]'s Offers" so that I don't accidentally open them.

I copied and pasted this from a word doc, so it's my bad that I forgot to bold this. Please do this everyone. I opened a PM that I had no idea would contain FA offers. I wasn't planning on going after any of them for the Dolphins, but if I am requested to temporarily take over someone's team in the meantime, that means that I am also out of the running of signing those players for them as well.
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10/17/17 8:02:54 PM
#429:


Bump
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10/18/17 4:41:39 PM
#430:


Ravens release LG Andy Phillips. He too doesn't qualify for the list, so let me know if you want a 24 year old, 72 overall G.
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10/18/17 6:16:40 PM
#431:


I am doing this on mobile, so I apologize for any sloppiness or autocorrect shenanigans, but we have a trade

49ers receive:
WR Andre Johnson
Dolphins S10 5th round pick
Dolphins S11 5th round pick

Dolphins receive:
QB Patrick Ramsey
WR Davone Bess
49ers S10 protected 1st round pick
49ers S11 protected 1st round pick

*If 49ers pick in Top 10, I instead receive their 2nd and 3rd round picks

Scare needs to confirm and the trade is now under 24 hour review.
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10/18/17 6:18:36 PM
#432:


KCF0107 posted...
I am doing this on mobile, so I apologize for any sloppiness or autocorrect shenanigans, but we have a trade

49ers receive:
WR Andre Johnson
Dolphins S10 5th round pick
Dolphins S11 5th round pick

Dolphins receive:
QB Patrick Ramsey
WR Davone Bess
49ers S10 protected 1st round pick
49ers S11 protected 1st round pick

*If 49ers pick in Top 10, I instead receive their 2nd and 3rd round picks

Scare needs to confirm and the trade is now under 24 hour review.


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Eddv
10/18/17 6:26:12 PM
#433:


Wow you REALLY want Andre Johnson huh
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10/18/17 6:31:21 PM
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KCF0107
10/18/17 6:35:55 PM
#435:


War once gave two 1sts for Terrell Owens, Chris gave up two 1sts, a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th for Tom Brady. Socko gave up I believe a Top 5 pick for Daunte Culpepper (Cowboys used it on HB Darius Walker I think).
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Emeraldegg
10/18/17 6:40:42 PM
#436:


I was unaware you could trade future picks like that, I thought it wasn't allowed
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MysteriousStan
10/18/17 6:52:38 PM
#437:


Nah, you can. It's just hasn't been common. Plus the Bills already have a future pick from the Patriots that they got during this years draft.

And technically due to game mechanics, it'll end up being three trades. WR Andre Johnson for QB Patrick Ramsey and WR Davone Bess this year. Then the following two years it'll be a 5th for a 1st.
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10/18/17 6:55:51 PM
#438:


It has always been allowed, and there was even one during the draft. You just have to make it so each person gives up and receives something during the years in question.

Like if this trade goes through, all that I can do now is trade the players. Once I have access to next season's picks, I can then trade those picks. I will have to wait until that point in the following season to complete the trade.

The problem with these trades is that they require the users to remain with the league, but in the few trades that were like this, we've never run into that dilemma.
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theawesomestevr
10/18/17 7:02:01 PM
#439:


Edit: was dumb and read things wrong again.

So in all likelihood, the '9ers don't pick in the top 10, and give up two consecutive 1st rounders for Andre Johnson who is 32 (I don't have a great grasp on when he's likely to retire, but he's probably good for a few years left?) while they still have a pretty average-looking defense.

If Big Ben goes down or something, they have an insurance policy for whatever year that happens if they pick in the top 10, but it still works out pretty well for KCF regardless.

Don't think I have an issue with it... but that's a lot to give up/risk for a guy when the '9ers look like they're more than one piece away (haven't been around long enough to know though if any team's won it all with just a great offense), and their acquisition will probably retire without a championship.
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10/18/17 7:23:20 PM
#440:


Given Andre's skill set, he will likely be around for four more seasons since his rating won't dip below 90 during his career.

Rating declines that also affect overall ratings due to age for WR are solely tied to speed. Andre has one of the highest catch ratings in the league, so I won't be surprised if he's still 93 when he's 34.
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profDEADPOOL
10/18/17 8:33:36 PM
#441:


The following players are all available for trade. I am currently looking for draft picks in exchange for them.

FB Greg Jones (99)
RE James Hall (78)
RE Sam Williams (75)

Contact me if you have any interest.
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Ranlom
10/18/17 8:39:46 PM
#442:


Does this mean we can do conditional picks? Like say i traded for a 36 y/o player using a 5th rounder, but if he stayed a 2nd year it gets bumped to a 4th. Or something along those lines.
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KCF0107
10/18/17 8:47:38 PM
#443:


Sure
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10/19/17 7:21:32 PM
#444:


I would totally reunite with James Hall if I had the cap space.

Also, the 49ers/Dolphins trade is official, and I believe all questions I have received through PMs have been answered.
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10/20/17 4:25:19 PM
#445:


Bumps
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ScareChan
10/20/17 7:15:47 PM
#446:


theawesomestevr posted...
Edit: was dumb and read things wrong again.

So in all likelihood, the '9ers don't pick in the top 10, and give up two consecutive 1st rounders for Andre Johnson who is 32 (I don't have a great grasp on when he's likely to retire, but he's probably good for a few years left?) while they still have a pretty average-looking defense.

If Big Ben goes down or something, they have an insurance policy for whatever year that happens if they pick in the top 10, but it still works out pretty well for KCF regardless.

Don't think I have an issue with it... but that's a lot to give up/risk for a guy when the '9ers look like they're more than one piece away (haven't been around long enough to know though if any team's won it all with just a great offense), and their acquisition will probably retire without a championship.


Im open for other trades to help my defense or anything else that could help me. I amwilling to giveup picks ifI have to. I want to win it this year
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KCF0107
10/20/17 7:27:14 PM
#447:


49ers have released FS Nate Lyles
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ScareChan
10/21/17 12:14:08 AM
#448:


Trade to announce

Wildcats recieve

WR Todd Walker
49ers 4th round pick

49ers recieve

WR Gonzie Massey
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profDEADPOOL
10/21/17 12:29:02 AM
#449:


Confirm
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theawesomestevr
10/21/17 1:01:38 AM
#450:


There are multiple things I don't get about that trade assuming the spreadsheet is accurate.

Like, how did 25-year-old Gonzie Massey end up making $9 milllion this year and $12 mil next year?
And why trade him for a player that's 3 years older and 7 OVR worse and only a 4th rounder?

I mean, I know the Wildcats have cap trouble, but it seems weird that they'd try to rid themselves of one of their good young players before looking elsewhere first.

It's late, so maybe I'm just missing something, but I don't get the logic here at all.
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