Poll of the Day > Is trump actually racist

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gravy
08/18/17 11:13:12 AM
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Or is that, like, just your opinion, man?
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Zareth
08/18/17 11:13:40 AM
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He's whatever will get him votes.
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08/18/17 12:00:08 PM
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Zareth posted...
He's whatever will get him votes.

Even a klondike bar? I just ate one. I dipped it in rootbeer, kinda like how you dip a cookie in milk.

Everyone should try that, btw. It's the best.
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Hejiru
08/18/17 12:00:44 PM
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I don't think he's actually racist, I think he's just narcissistic. And an idiot.
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Lightning Bolt
08/18/17 12:02:18 PM
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eh I mean like who can really ever even
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McSame_as_Bush
08/18/17 12:07:45 PM
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VeeVees
08/18/17 12:08:39 PM
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everyone is racist to some degree
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Golden Road
08/18/17 12:11:34 PM
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It doesn't really matter whether or not Trump truly believes any of the racist stuff he says. When he tries so hard to court his most ardent supporters that he says racist stuff to keep their support, for all intents and purposes, he's racist.
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Erik_P
08/18/17 12:12:05 PM
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Hejiru posted...
I don't think he's actually racist, I think he's just narcissistic. And an idiot.


So a person can't be racist and a narcissist?

The fucking logic of some people, holy shit.
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Action53
08/18/17 12:14:14 PM
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He literally is
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08/18/17 12:14:23 PM
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Erik_P posted...
So a person can't be racist and a narcissist?

The fucking logic of some people, holy shit.

Did you read the first half of his post? He never said people can't be both; just that Trump happens to be the latter in his opinion.

The fucking logic of some people, holy shit.
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gravy
08/18/17 12:15:29 PM
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Golden Road posted...
It doesn't really matter whether or not Trump truly believes any of the racist stuff he says. When he tries so hard to court his most ardent supporters that he says racist stuff to keep their support, for all intents and purposes, he's racist.

But what if Trump started a plan to give Klondike bars and rootbeer to everyone in the country?

Then what?

That's all I ever wanted in life....What would you do for a Klondike bar? Petition for world peace AND to end world hunger all at the same time?

Hmm
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Zareth
08/18/17 12:16:32 PM
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Those Oreo Klondikes are ace, I tell you what.
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Erik_P
08/18/17 12:22:19 PM
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gravy posted...
Erik_P posted...
So a person can't be racist and a narcissist?

The fucking logic of some people, holy shit.

Did you read the first half of his post? He never said people can't be both; just that Trump happens to be the latter in his opinion.

The fucking logic of some people, holy shit.


You should remove your head from your ass because he never said what you claimed he said.
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Smarkil
08/18/17 12:32:25 PM
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gravy posted...
But what if Trump started a plan to give Klondike bars and rootbeer to everyone in the country?

Then what?

That's all I ever wanted in life....What would you do for a Klondike bar? Petition for world peace AND to end world hunger all at the same time?

Hmm


Don't bother trying to prove a point to Erik.

Erik is to logic as a toddler is to a Rubik's Cube.
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Far-Queue
08/18/17 12:39:00 PM
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gravy posted...
Is trump actually racist

Yes.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/27/hillary-clinton/true-hillary-clinton-says-federal-government-sued-/

In one instance, a black man asked about two-bedroom apartments at Trump’s Westminster complex in Brooklyn on March 18, 1972, and a superintendent told him nothing was available. On March 19, 1972, the black man’s wife, who was white, visited the complex and was offered an application for a two-bedroom apartment on the spot.

The government lawyers also interviewed several people who said executives for Trump Management discouraged rental agents from renting to black people. In one case, the government said the company’s comptroller instructed a rental agent to attach a sheet of paper that said "C" for "colored" to every application submitted by a person of color.

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TheCyborgNinja
08/18/17 12:40:24 PM
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I don't think that's what comptrolling is all about...
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TheOrangeMisfit
08/18/17 1:17:57 PM
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ernieforss
08/18/17 2:01:59 PM
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i get it, he wants to hear both sides of the story and defend the facts. Both sides are at fault to some degree. (like the fault for being human and having strong emotions)

but to answer the question he's a racist. We all knew this since Obama.
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Foppe
08/18/17 2:14:10 PM
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I dont think he is a "I want all blacks to die" racist, just racist by ignorance and stupidity.
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McSame_as_Bush
08/18/17 2:23:39 PM
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TheOrangeMisfit posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/20/donald-trump-apprentice-outtakes-tape-tom-arnold

http://people.com/politics/don-cheadle-accuses-donald-trump-racist-slur-golf-outing/


Lmao. Is pathetic speculation from washed up, irrelevant fools the best evidence you have?


A video of him being racist isn't speculation.
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TheOrangeMisfit
08/19/17 12:29:54 PM
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McSame_as_Bush posted...
TheOrangeMisfit posted...
McSame_as_Bush posted...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/20/donald-trump-apprentice-outtakes-tape-tom-arnold

http://people.com/politics/don-cheadle-accuses-donald-trump-racist-slur-golf-outing/


Lmao. Is pathetic speculation from washed up, irrelevant fools the best evidence you have?


A video of him being racist isn't speculation.


Oh. You have the video? Could you post it please?
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Jiggy101011
08/19/17 12:42:51 PM
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I would say he is an elitist.
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OmegaM
08/19/17 12:50:01 PM
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Saw something saying that Trump didn't explicitly condemn white supremacy because his enemies wanted him to condemn it.

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2017/08/political-parasites

So like Homer's "always do the opposite of what Bart says" card.
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MaverickXeo
08/19/17 1:21:04 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
gravy posted...
Is trump actually racist

Yes.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/27/hillary-clinton/true-hillary-clinton-says-federal-government-sued-/

In one instance, a black man asked about two-bedroom apartments at Trump’s Westminster complex in Brooklyn on March 18, 1972, and a superintendent told him nothing was available. On March 19, 1972, the black man’s wife, who was white, visited the complex and was offered an application for a two-bedroom apartment on the spot.

The government lawyers also interviewed several people who said executives for Trump Management discouraged rental agents from renting to black people. In one case, the government said the company’s comptroller instructed a rental agent to attach a sheet of paper that said "C" for "colored" to every application submitted by a person of color.


So you mean when most people were racist, his staff were racist (Not him in particular)?
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Far-Queue
08/19/17 3:13:51 PM
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MaverickXeo posted...
So you mean when most people were racist, his staff were racist (Not him in particular)?

No, I mean Trump in particular. Hence why I quoted the topic title "Is trump actually racist" and answered with "Yes."

But here's another except from the politifact page:

In 1973, Trump, as a 27-year-old, was president of his father’s realty company, Trump Management. It operated nearly 40 apartment buildings, mostly in New York City. By all accounts, including his own, Trump was a hands-on president and very active in managing the day-to-day business operations.


In other words, any policy that outlined discrimination towards applicants who were anything other than white would not have been enforced without "hands-on" Donald Trump's awareness, if not without his explicit consent/orders.
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BlackScythe0
08/19/17 3:15:11 PM
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Anyone who can call a nazi a "very fine person" is a racist.
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OhhhJa
08/19/17 3:21:43 PM
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Erik_P posted...
gravy posted...
Erik_P posted...
So a person can't be racist and a narcissist?

The fucking logic of some people, holy shit.

Did you read the first half of his post? He never said people can't be both; just that Trump happens to be the latter in his opinion.

The fucking logic of some people, holy shit.


You should remove your head from your ass because he never said what you claimed he said.

You are really not a reader are you?
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MaverickXeo
08/19/17 5:34:18 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
MaverickXeo posted...
So you mean when most people were racist, his staff were racist (Not him in particular)?

No, I mean Trump in particular. Hence why I quoted the topic title "Is trump actually racist" and answered with "Yes."

But here's another except from the politifact page:

In 1973, Trump, as a 27-year-old, was president of his father’s realty company, Trump Management. It operated nearly 40 apartment buildings, mostly in New York City. By all accounts, including his own, Trump was a hands-on president and very active in managing the day-to-day business operations.


In other words, any policy that outlined discrimination towards applicants who were anything other than white would not have been enforced without "hands-on" Donald Trump's awareness, if not without his explicit consent/orders.


So he was racist back when it was pretty much 'acceptable' to be so?
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Far-Queue
08/19/17 5:38:39 PM
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It wasn't acceptable in the 70s.

Just because some people may have been more open and in-your-face with racism doesn't mean it was widely accepted.

And if it were acceptable, Trump would've just said "Blacks need not apply", instead of lying about whether apartments were available.
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Boobsicle
08/19/17 5:54:10 PM
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There is ample evidence that he was not racist before being in the Presidential spotlight.

I would say being the first owner of a Floridian Country Club to allow Blacks and Jews to be members completely cancels out his 70s fiasco. He didnt just tow the line, he was the FIRST.

Nevermind the huge list of pro-black things he has done.
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TheCyborgNinja
08/19/17 6:03:35 PM
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Foppe posted...
I dont think he is a "I want all blacks to die" racist, just racist by ignorance and stupidity.

Yeah, racism isn't simply a choice between "I think we're all equal" or "kill anyone that's not like me." There's a ton of gray area. I'd say he's peacefully racist and very narcissistic.
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Far-Queue
08/19/17 6:20:06 PM
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Boobsicle posted...
There is ample evidence that he was not racist before being in the Presidential spotlight.

I would say being the first owner of a Floridian Country Club to allow Blacks and Jews to be members completely cancels out his 70s fiasco. He didnt just tow the line, he was the FIRST.

Nevermind the huge list of pro-black things he has done.

I would say he allowed blacks into his country club because of incidents in his past that had him branded a racist. He was trying to shed that image.

Being coerced or strong-armed into doing something he doesn't want to do doesn't mean he's all of a sudden not a racist. He just wants a better public image to benefit himself and his interests.

He's not racist when it benefits him not to be racist.
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vhiran
08/19/17 6:23:16 PM
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he is literally hitler
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TheCyborgNinja
08/19/17 6:25:11 PM
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vhiran posted...
he is literally hitler

I dunno. Hitler could probably pass a healthcare reform.
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Boobsicle
08/19/17 7:40:55 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Boobsicle posted...
There is ample evidence that he was not racist before being in the Presidential spotlight.

I would say being the first owner of a Floridian Country Club to allow Blacks and Jews to be members completely cancels out his 70s fiasco. He didnt just tow the line, he was the FIRST.

Nevermind the huge list of pro-black things he has done.

I would say he allowed blacks into his country club because of incidents in his past that had him branded a racist. He was trying to shed that image.

Being coerced or strong-armed into doing something he doesn't want to do doesn't mean he's all of a sudden not a racist. He just wants a better public image to benefit himself and his interests.

He's not racist when it benefits him not to be racist.


No lol. The 1970s incident was literally completely forgotten about until his Presidential run. His allowance of blacks and jews into his club may have stemmed from some financial incentive but not from that.

Nevermind that the guy has been a dominant celebrity and entrepreneur for over 35 years. He has been in the public eye longer than most of us have been alive. There was no 'Trump is racist' sentiment during this time at all.
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Far-Queue
08/19/17 7:50:55 PM
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Boobsicle posted...
No lol. The 1970s incident was literally completely forgotten about until his Presidential run.

Maybe outside of Trump's sphere of influence. Wasn't forgotten by New Yorkers. Particularly black New Yorkers.

His allowance of blacks and jews into his club may have stemmed from some financial incentive but not from that.

Right, so like I said, if it benefits him to pretend he's not racist, he'll pretend he's not racist. Still racist.

Nevermind that the guy has been a dominant celebrity and entrepreneur for over 35 years. He has been in the public eye longer than most of us have been alive.

And? Donald Sterling owned the Clippers for about 35 years, and he's racist as fuck. Who says you can't be racist and successful? Look at Mel Gibson.

There was no 'Trump is racist' sentiment during this time at all.

Except there was?
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Doctor Foxx
08/19/17 7:55:17 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Except there was?



http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/

A nice little article about his racism through the decades
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Far-Queue
08/19/17 8:00:31 PM
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Doctor Foxx posted...
Far-Queue posted...
Except there was?



http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald-trump-racism-quotes/

A nice little article about his racism through the decades

Thank you. Don't have to convince me, of course. But it's good to have something to corroborate.
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OhhhJa
08/19/17 8:06:38 PM
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It wouldn't matter what Republican won this time. We would've been hearing about how racist and evil they were from the left. Truth is the left views all Republicans as racist cartoon super villains. Had it been Ted Cruz, it'd be the same tune from outlets like CNN
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cgreenw
08/19/17 9:44:46 PM
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Is he racist?

I'd like to remind everyone of the years he questioned Barack Obama being an American.

And also the time he said he thinks the innocent Central Park Five should still be in jail for a crime they did not commit.

And the "This is not a Muslim ban", Muslim ban.



OhhhJa posted...
It wouldn't matter what Republican won this time. We would've been hearing about how racist and evil they were from the left. Truth is the left views all Republicans as racist cartoon super villains. Had it been Ted Cruz, it'd be the same tune from outlets like CNN


This is a projection and an ironic blanket statement.
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OhhhJa
08/19/17 10:01:43 PM
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cgreenw posted...
This is a projection and an ironic blanket statement.

Not sure how it's either of these. This is how the propaganda machine works 101... on both sides of the aisle
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