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Damn_Underscore
08/04/17 8:06:46 PM
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Does this logo offend you?


Chief Wahoo

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DirkDiggles
08/04/17 8:07:48 PM
#2:


How DARE Native Americans look happy!
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08/04/17 8:08:05 PM
#3:


No.
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Volkswagen_Bros
08/04/17 8:08:45 PM
#4:


That logo has history my friend.
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MonkeyBones23
08/04/17 8:11:08 PM
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I'm not offended by it personally but imo it should be changed
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stone
08/04/17 8:17:00 PM
#6:


Totally offensive.
It should look like Dhalsim, and not the Yum Yum indian. Otherwise they should rename the team the Cleveland Natives, or something.
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Volkswagen_Bros
08/04/17 8:17:23 PM
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MonkeyBones23 posted...
I'm not offended by it personally but imo it should be changed

Volkswagen_Bros posted...
That logo has history my friend.

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CruelBuffalo
08/04/17 8:18:53 PM
#8:


I'm not offended, but it's pretty outdated and outlandish looking. I'd change it.
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Fill_Kessel
08/04/17 8:19:02 PM
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The Cleveland Indians offend me.
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DK9292
08/04/17 8:22:36 PM
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I'm more offended by the name than anything.

Also, maybe change the colour.
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stone
08/04/17 8:24:13 PM
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Spooking posted...
Why is the feather red?

Typical 3-colored logo, probably? But yeah I'd have made it white.
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Iodine
08/04/17 8:27:53 PM
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It is rather cringe worthy.
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cjsdowg
08/04/17 8:28:14 PM
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2013/10/10/new_york_jews_san_francisco_chinamen_cleveland_indians_ncai_poster_is_old.html
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gatorsPENSbucs
08/04/17 8:28:49 PM
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Nah.

They've been going away from that logo a lot though recently.
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Damn_Underscore
08/04/17 8:34:15 PM
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stone posted...
Spooking posted...
Why is the feather red?

Typical 3-colored logo, probably? But yeah I'd have made it white.


Tried it on Paint. That actually doesn't look bad, but it's definitely better in red.
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Skye Reynolds
08/04/17 9:09:59 PM
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Well, it started as a dig at Allie Reynolds. When he left Cleveland to join the Yankees, they decided to make fun of his ethnic background with a caricature who bore Allie's nickname. That's a pretty auspicious origin.

That said, the character design itself is a mixed bag. I'm glad that they softened his features so that he doesn't have an exaggerated hooked nose. He looks like any other mascot. But there is one thing which separates him: his tomato red complexion.

I can't complain about caricaturizing someone as long as it's consistent. Chief Wahoo looks like he could be drinking buddies with the Fighting Irish mascot that Notre Dame has. It's just like when Obama became US president. Political cartoonists gave him big teeth and a tiny face and it fit right alongside Bush's big ears and Clinton's big teeth without seeming racist.

But could you imagine if this character was Asian and he had a lemon skintone or if he was black and he looked jet black? Now that is something they could change. They could give him a more human complexion. But they can't change his history or association.

I don't want to get rid of Chief Wahoo as much as I do the "Redskins" team name. Wahoo can stay or go, but I won't be sorry if he leaves. And I do have to admit that it's a double standard when you can exaggerate "red" people to be fully red when the same isn't done for other groups.
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Skye Reynolds
08/04/17 9:10:42 PM
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Also, I hate to go here, but he's not a chief.


He's got one feather. He's more like Warrior Wahoo.
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Damn_Underscore
08/05/17 9:10:34 PM
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bump
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Milkman5
08/05/17 9:16:28 PM
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ClockworkHare
08/05/17 9:17:16 PM
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It apparently offends a lot of people today.

However, most of the outrage over it is NOT coming from Native Americans.
TBH most of us don't give a fuck about it at all rofl.
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I4NRulez
08/05/17 9:18:07 PM
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Arent they moving away from him now?
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The Admiral
08/05/17 9:19:33 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
Arent they moving away from him now?


Yeah, they've been phasing him out slowly. He's been replaced by the block C in most places.
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Burnt_Puke82
08/05/17 9:20:42 PM
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