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Jen0125
08/01/17 1:18:48 PM
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http://money.cnn.com/2017/08/01/media/rod-wheeler-seth-rich-fox-news-lawsuit/index.html


lol #fakenews
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Mead
08/01/17 1:20:00 PM
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RCtheWSBC
08/01/17 1:28:01 PM
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I read the scoop earlier: http://www.npr.org/2017/08/01/540783715/lawsuit-alleges-fox-news-and-trump-supporter-created-fake-news-story

The following account reflects the verbatim quotes provided from the texts, emails, voicemails and recorded conversations cited in Wheeler's lawsuit, except as otherwise noted.

According to the lawsuit, Trump's press secretary Sean Spicer meets at the White House with Wheeler and Butowsky to review the Rich story a month before Fox News ran the piece.

On May 14, about 36 hours before Fox News' story appears, Butowsky leaves a voicemail for Wheeler, saying, "We have the full, uh, attention of the White House on this. And tomorrow, let's close this deal, whatever we've got to do."

Butowsky also texts Wheeler: "Not to add any more pressure but the president just read the article. He wants the article out immediately. It's now all up to you."

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Doctor Foxx
08/01/17 1:30:47 PM
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Guys you can't trust that cnn npr fake news
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Blue_Spirit
08/01/17 1:34:10 PM
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Why is potd becoming ce
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Jen0125
08/01/17 1:35:18 PM
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Blue_Spirit posted...
Why is potd becoming ce


who are you
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Jen0125
08/01/17 2:40:06 PM
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@Zeus
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PaddysPub
08/01/17 2:55:42 PM
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i have honestly no fucking idea who/what to trust anymore. I think that's intentional.



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Zeus
08/01/17 3:10:06 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
@ Zeus


Keep in mind that this is the same CNN who let Democratic staffers write general election debate questions for them as well as giving other questions in advance to the Clinton camp -- which was revealed during Wikileaks -- so pretty anything they claim is suspect given their glaring bias. I rank CNN as being on par with Fox News and MSNBC.

And, in general, filing a lawsuit is meaningless because anybody can file one for any reason.
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Jen0125
08/01/17 3:10:23 PM
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they have the receipts though
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Zeus
08/01/17 3:12:33 PM
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Also keep in mind that the allegation seems to be cooperation, not that the story itself was fictitious. Otherwise, I'm not really familiar with the original story so I don't have a strong opinion.
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RCtheWSBC
08/01/17 3:13:39 PM
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Zeus posted...
Otherwise, I'm not really familiar with the original story so I don't have a strong opinion.


Read post 3 and click the link.
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TheWorstPoster
08/01/17 3:15:43 PM
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I trust Peter Molyneux more than CNN
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RCtheWSBC
08/01/17 3:16:53 PM
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lol why are people talking about CNN as if this isn't a lawsuit being reported by multiple news agencies

Low energy stuff
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Lightning Bolt
08/01/17 3:29:20 PM
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It's uncanny. It really seems like everything Trump accuses other people of is in fact something he does himself.
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TheWorstPoster
08/01/17 3:35:47 PM
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Lightning Bolt posted...
It's uncanny. It really seems like everything Trump accuses other people of is in fact something he does himself.


Or rather, what people accuse Trump of doing, is what they do themselves.
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Jen0125
08/01/17 3:36:07 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
Lightning Bolt posted...
It's uncanny. It really seems like everything Trump accuses other people of is in fact something he does himself.


Or rather, what people accuse Trump of doing, is what they do themselves.


what
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RCtheWSBC
08/01/17 3:37:33 PM
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It's 12D backgammon strategy, boo
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Jen0125
08/01/17 3:38:45 PM
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lmao i just


that doesn't make sense
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TheWorstPoster
08/01/17 3:40:48 PM
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Jen0125 posted...


what


I'll give you an example.

Former Vermont Governor Howard Dean accuses Trump and the "Ring Wing Media" of racism. Despite being Governor of the whitest state in the country. And employing absolutely no minorities. And having the audacity of slamming Breitbart for reporting the murder of Justine Diamond. Even though Brietbart has more minorities working for them than Dean had in his cabinet.

Things like that.
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Jen0125
08/01/17 3:41:53 PM
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how is being governor of "the whitest state in the country" racist?

and if they're the "whitest state in the country" wouldn't it make sense for them to have less minorities to hire?

that's a pretty bad example.
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Erik_P
08/01/17 3:41:58 PM
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Zeus posted...
Jen0125 posted...
@ Zeus


Keep in mind that this is the same CNN who let Democratic staffers write general election debate questions for them as well as giving other questions in advance to the Clinton camp -- which was revealed during Wikileaks -- so pretty anything they claim is suspect given their glaring bias. I rank CNN as being on par with Fox News and MSNBC.

And, in general, filing a lawsuit is meaningless because anybody can file one for any reason.


Yes, who writes the debate questions are totally on the same level as creating a fake news story about a murder victim.
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TheWorstPoster
08/01/17 3:44:38 PM
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Erik_P posted...
Yes, who writes the debate questions are totally on the same level as creating a fake news story about a murder victim.


Speaking of debate questions...

http://nypost.com/2016/10/31/cnn-drops-brazile-for-feeding-debate-questions-to-clinton/
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Erik_P
08/01/17 3:47:23 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
Erik_P posted...
Yes, who writes the debate questions are totally on the same level as creating a fake news story about a murder victim.


Speaking of debate questions...

http://nypost.com/2016/10/31/cnn-drops-brazile-for-feeding-debate-questions-to-clinton/


Yes, that's also as terrible as creating a fake news story about a murder victim.

Why are Republicans still so obsessed with Hillary and the election and the debate? None of that stuff matters anymore.
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rjsilverthorn
08/01/17 3:48:27 PM
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Erik_P posted...
TheWorstPoster posted...
Erik_P posted...
Yes, who writes the debate questions are totally on the same level as creating a fake news story about a murder victim.


Speaking of debate questions...

http://nypost.com/2016/10/31/cnn-drops-brazile-for-feeding-debate-questions-to-clinton/


Yes, that's also as terrible as creating a fake news story about a murder victim.

Why are Republicans still so obsessed with Hillary and the election and the debate? None of that stuff matters anymore.


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TheWorstPoster
08/01/17 3:51:30 PM
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Erik_P posted...


Yes, that's also as terrible as creating a fake news story about a murder victim.


So what you are saying is, forcing the election to be rigged (with actual EVIDENCE) for the most powerful person on the planet, is a lesser story than some Somali extremist killing an innocent woman and claiming that it was lawful?
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Erik_P
08/01/17 3:56:34 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
Erik_P posted...


Yes, that's also as terrible as creating a fake news story about a murder victim.


So what you are saying is, forcing the election to be rigged (with actual EVIDENCE) for the most powerful person on the planet, is a lesser story than some Somali extremist killing an innocent woman and claiming that it was lawful?


Seth Rich was a man and nobody knows who killed him. How do you know it was an extremist?
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Jen0125
08/01/17 3:57:37 PM
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Erik_P posted...
Seth Rich was a man and nobody knows who killed him. How do you know it was an extremist?


are you sure seth isn't a woman's name?
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TheWorstPoster
08/01/17 3:58:38 PM
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Erik_P posted...

Seth Rich was a man and nobody knows who killed him. How do you know it was an extremist?


Because he was the one who gave John Podesta's emails to Wikileaks, and the fact that the Clintons put hits out on those who would create scandals for them?
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Erik_P
08/01/17 3:58:42 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Erik_P posted...
Seth Rich was a man and nobody knows who killed him. How do you know it was an extremist?


are you sure seth isn't a woman's name?


Hard to say for certain. ICOYAR threw all my preconceptions of the name Seth out the window.
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Erik_P
08/01/17 4:00:09 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
Erik_P posted...

Seth Rich was a man and nobody knows who killed him. How do you know it was an extremist?


Because he was the one who gave John Podesta's emails to Wikileaks, and the fact that the Clintons put hits out on those who would create scandals for them?


So you're just going to keep repeating a now debunked story that even Faux News has retracted.
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RCtheWSBC
08/01/17 4:00:12 PM
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I can't even process his statements
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Jen0125
08/01/17 4:00:55 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
Erik_P posted...

Seth Rich was a man and nobody knows who killed him. How do you know it was an extremist?


Because he was the one who gave John Podesta's emails to Wikileaks, and the fact that the Clintons put hits out on those who would create scandals for them?


that's what this lawsuit is alleging is made up and they allege they have proof to show it was fabricated with white house knowledge.
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TheWorstPoster
08/01/17 4:01:27 PM
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Erik_P posted...


So you're just going to keep repeating a now debunked story that even Faux News has retracted.


I would like to see how this story is "debunked".
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Jen0125
08/01/17 4:01:50 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
Erik_P posted...


So you're just going to keep repeating a now debunked story that even Faux News has retracted.


I would like to see how this story is "debunked".


did you read any of the articles posted
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Troll_Police_
08/01/17 4:06:58 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
TheWorstPoster posted...
Erik_P posted...

Seth Rich was a man and nobody knows who killed him. How do you know it was an extremist?


Because he was the one who gave John Podesta's emails to Wikileaks, and the fact that the Clintons put hits out on those who would create scandals for them?


that's what this lawsuit is alleging is made up and they allege they have proof to show it was fabricated with white house knowledge.


And I allege that I have a Ferrari in my garage. It's easy to make claims, and it's dumb to automatically latch onto them as fact like a typically liberal jen


Inb4 'lmao'
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Jen0125
08/01/17 4:08:09 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
and it's dumb to automatically latch onto them as fact like a typically liberal jen


no one is doing that, that's why i used the word allege.

but this person is stating they have documented proof of what they're claiming so i'm interested to see what happens with this suit.
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TheWorstPoster
08/01/17 4:08:37 PM
#38:


Troll_Police_ posted...
And I allege that I have a Ferrari in my garage.


You must be wealthy
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Firewood18
08/01/17 4:19:35 PM
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This happened.
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shadowsword87
08/01/17 5:07:57 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
And I allege that I have a Ferrari in my garage. It's easy to make claims, and it's dumb to automatically latch onto them as fact like a typically liberal jen


Sure, but someone is spending a not-insignificant amount of money for lawyers.
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Doctor Foxx
08/01/17 6:16:01 PM
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RCtheWSBC posted...
lol why are people talking about CNN as if this isn't a lawsuit being reported by multiple news agencies

Low energy stuff

Not to mention the original writeup was by NPR, not CNN. CNN is just reporting on it as well.

But I'm sure some leftleaningcentrists will dismiss NPR for whatever inane reasons. :P
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Troll_Police_
08/01/17 7:36:01 PM
#42:


shadowsword87 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
And I allege that I have a Ferrari in my garage. It's easy to make claims, and it's dumb to automatically latch onto them as fact like a typically liberal jen


Sure, but someone is spending a not-insignificant amount of money for lawyers.


So if you are accused of a crime and hire a lawyer, you're guilty? That's some stellar fucking logic right there
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shadowsword87
08/01/17 7:40:53 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
So if you are accused of a crime and hire a lawyer, you're guilty? That's some stellar f***ing logic right there


No, what I'm saying is that it needs to be taken more seriously than just some drunken bet or whatever.
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TheCyborgNinja
08/01/17 7:49:36 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
Lightning Bolt posted...
It's uncanny. It really seems like everything Trump accuses other people of is in fact something he does himself.


Or rather, what people accuse Trump of doing, is what they do themselves.

99% of them are just scumbags. Case closed.
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Troll_Police_
08/01/17 7:56:05 PM
#45:


shadowsword87 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
So if you are accused of a crime and hire a lawyer, you're guilty? That's some stellar f***ing logic right there


No, what I'm saying is that it needs to be taken more seriously than just some drunken bet or whatever.


oh, i get it. it needs to be taken more seriously because a lawyer was hired. because hiring a lawer is an indication of guilt right? if not, then what stupid point ARE you trying to make?
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Firewood18
08/01/17 8:13:56 PM
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And it's still happening.
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shadowsword87
08/01/17 8:40:07 PM
#47:


Troll_Police_ posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
So if you are accused of a crime and hire a lawyer, you're guilty? That's some stellar f***ing logic right there


No, what I'm saying is that it needs to be taken more seriously than just some drunken bet or whatever.


oh, i get it. it needs to be taken more seriously because a lawyer was hired. because hiring a lawer is an indication of guilt right? if not, then what stupid point ARE you trying to make?


You literally didn't respond in any way to my point.
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Troll_Police_
08/01/17 8:55:57 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
shadowsword87 posted...
Troll_Police_ posted...
So if you are accused of a crime and hire a lawyer, you're guilty? That's some stellar f***ing logic right there


No, what I'm saying is that it needs to be taken more seriously than just some drunken bet or whatever.


oh, i get it. it needs to be taken more seriously because a lawyer was hired. because hiring a lawer is an indication of guilt right? if not, then what stupid point ARE you trying to make?


You literally didn't respond in any way to my point.


your point is that this should be taken seriously because a lawyer was hired. its right fucking here



Sure, but someone is spending a not-insignificant amount of money for lawyers.


and then when questioned further on this bizzare idea you hold that hiring a lawyer equates to guilt you said this:






No, what I'm saying is that it needs to be taken more seriously than just some drunken bet or whatever.




so please, do elaborate. what reason do you have for this to be taken more seriously that holds relevance with any previous part of this conversation, because the only other point you made was that "an attorney was hired"
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