Poll of the Day > Would you walk, or bike ride to a gym one mile away?

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nobletype
07/12/17 6:21:46 PM
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Would you walk, or bike ride to a gym one mile away?


Walking would take 15-20 minutes, biking I'd assume would take 5. What would you do in such a situation?
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ParanoidObsessive
07/12/17 6:22:28 PM
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I'd drive, because I am old and lazy.


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wolfy42
07/12/17 6:32:22 PM
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I wouldn't go because...too much work to get there:)
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rjsilverthorn
07/12/17 6:33:55 PM
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Would probably depend on the weather.
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nobletype
07/12/17 7:18:56 PM
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Split responses.
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Krazy_Kirby
07/12/17 7:19:05 PM
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15-20min to walk a mile?
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Cacciato
07/12/17 7:23:09 PM
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rjsilverthorn posted...
Would probably depend on the weather.
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nobletype
07/12/17 7:37:43 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
15-20min to walk a mile?


Yes. Believe it or not, that is the standard for walking one mile.
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green dragon
07/12/17 7:52:44 PM
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Yes. I used to bike like 4 miles to the gym
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Krazy_Kirby
07/12/17 7:53:14 PM
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nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
15-20min to walk a mile?


Yes. Believe it or not, that is the standard for walking one mile.


weird. if i walk slowly it still only takes me 12min.
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Cacciato
07/12/17 8:03:33 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
15-20min to walk a mile?


Yes. Believe it or not, that is the standard for walking one mile.


weird. if i walk slowly it still only takes me 12min.

I doubt that.
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Krazy_Kirby
07/12/17 8:04:27 PM
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Cacciato posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
15-20min to walk a mile?


Yes. Believe it or not, that is the standard for walking one mile.


weird. if i walk slowly it still only takes me 12min.

I doubt that.


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ParanoidObsessive
07/12/17 8:16:48 PM
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nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
15-20min to walk a mile?

Yes. Believe it or not, that is the standard for walking one mile.

Give or take. The usual assumption is that the average human walks about 3-4mph on level ground, which would translate to 15-20 minutes per mile.

At a jogging pace you're probably closer to about 8 minutes, and at a racing pace you can probably pull a 6 minute mile if you're in relatively good shape, and may be able to get close to a 4 minute mile if you're a really good runner (and presumably male).


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nobletype
07/12/17 8:20:24 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
6 minute mile if you're in relatively good shape, and may be able to get close to a 4 minute mile if you're a really good runner (and presumably male).


Hmm, I'm pretty sure you're underestimating the requirements for 6 and 4 minute miles. 6 minute miles are more than 'relatively good shape' -- and 4 minute miles are not just really good, that's elite status, to put it mildly.
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nobletype
07/12/17 9:05:17 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
15-20min to walk a mile?


Yes. Believe it or not, that is the standard for walking one mile.


weird. if i walk slowly it still only takes me 12min.


You do realize a 12 minute mile is walking 5 MPH which is not walking slowly by any stretch of the imagination, right? Are you sure you know what a mile is?
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Krazy_Kirby
07/13/17 12:55:12 AM
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nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
15-20min to walk a mile?


Yes. Believe it or not, that is the standard for walking one mile.


weird. if i walk slowly it still only takes me 12min.


You do realize a 12 minute mile is walking 5 MPH which is not walking slowly by any stretch of the imagination, right? Are you sure you know what a mile is?


iv'e walked a 10min mile during high-school p.e.
my fast walking is about as fast as those weirdoes who "powerwalk"
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fishy071
07/13/17 12:58:53 AM
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I would walk, but I prefer to bike because it's faster.
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wwinterj25
07/13/17 1:07:18 AM
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Walk. No need for me to mess around with a bike.
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WarGreymon77
07/13/17 1:19:41 AM
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No point in going to the gym if you're tired before you get there.
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Krazy_Kirby
07/13/17 1:24:21 AM
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WarGreymon77 posted...
No point in going to the gym if you're tired before you get there.


if you are tired from walking a mile then you definitely need to go to the gym

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGLzm-Gy0dQ


even homer wasnt too tired to use the gym after his jog/walk
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Flyingpirate
07/13/17 2:26:35 AM
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Thats it eh? 1 mile? In Canada thats considered a quick stop to the corner store or Tim Hortons. I guess America is more urban. I used to jog 8 miles to the gym through snow. 4 miles uphill to work. 4 Miles downhill nowadays. Going down hill is annoying, I should sled down or something.
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Lokarin
07/13/17 2:32:26 AM
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i'd walk, but that'd be the whole exercise :p
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nobletype
07/13/17 2:46:15 AM
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Flyingpirate posted...
Thats it eh? 1 mile? In Canada thats considered a quick stop to the corner store or Tim Hortons. I guess America is more urban. I used to jog 8 miles to the gym through snow. 4 miles uphill to work. 4 Miles downhill nowadays. Going down hill is annoying, I should sled down or something.


What part of Canada? That seems extremely spread out. I was in Toronto and it was nothing like that... granted it was Toronto.
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wolfy42
07/13/17 3:50:32 AM
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3mph is considered average walking speed. If you have a decent stride and walk fast, you can double that easily, and maintain it for a very long time.

6mph is a mile every 10 minutes.

So yeah, I can totally see someone walking a 12 minute mile no problem
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helly
07/13/17 4:31:03 AM
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wolfy42 posted...
3mph is considered average walking speed. If you have a decent stride and walk fast, you can double that easily, and maintain it for a very long time.

6mph is a mile every 10 minutes.

So yeah, I can totally see someone walking a 12 minute mile no problem

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nobletype
07/13/17 7:06:45 AM
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wolfy42 posted...

So yeah, I can totally see someone walking a 12 minute mile no problem


He said that he walks a 12 minute mile walking slowly. LMAO
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SmokeMassTree
07/13/17 7:53:52 AM
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Depends on what Pokémon are at it
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Final Fantasy2389
07/13/17 7:55:00 AM
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Walking there would be no problem. It'd be the walking back that would suck after you're tired and all sweaty from your workout. Unless you use it as a cool down I guess.

I would probably be more likely to bike there though. If they had a place to lock up the bike
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Cacciato
07/13/17 8:12:44 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
15-20min to walk a mile?


Yes. Believe it or not, that is the standard for walking one mile.


weird. if i walk slowly it still only takes me 12min.


You do realize a 12 minute mile is walking 5 MPH which is not walking slowly by any stretch of the imagination, right? Are you sure you know what a mile is?


iv'e walked a 10min mile during high-school p.e.
my fast walking is about as fast as those weirdoes who "powerwalk"

Except, no you didn't.
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Peterass
07/13/17 8:20:18 AM
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Walk. Or if you're feeling not lazy, jog and get your cardio in before you get to the gym
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blly155
07/13/17 8:28:31 AM
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my local gym is half a mile away and i walk. if it was any further i'd go on my bike. i do like walking but sometimes i just don't have the time to walk everywhere.
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adjl
07/13/17 9:26:17 AM
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Probably bike, unless it's particularly hilly terrain. Even then, if it's uphill there and downhill back, that works nicely as a warmup and allows you to get back with minimal effort, which I could see being handy.
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Krazy_Kirby
07/13/17 9:39:45 AM
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Cacciato posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
15-20min to walk a mile?


Yes. Believe it or not, that is the standard for walking one mile.


weird. if i walk slowly it still only takes me 12min.


You do realize a 12 minute mile is walking 5 MPH which is not walking slowly by any stretch of the imagination, right? Are you sure you know what a mile is?


iv'e walked a 10min mile during high-school p.e.
my fast walking is about as fast as those weirdoes who "powerwalk"

Except, no you didn't.


i started walking home from school in the 4th grade. walked home about 90% of the time 4th-12th. each school was over a mile to my house. i learned to walk faster so i would get home faster. (if its a route i know i can read and walk faster than some average speed that is slow because of the average fatness of people)

my stride is quite long when i make full use of it.
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fettster777
07/13/17 10:01:03 AM
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If I was bringing a bag I would drive. If I just went with what I'm wearing and that's it I would jog.
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Trancer Hunter
07/13/17 10:19:27 AM
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walk... 1 mile really isn't that long to walk...
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Dikitain
07/13/17 10:27:29 AM
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When I went to the gym near my apartment complex, I would usually walk. I think it was around a mile technically, but it usually took me about 20 minutes because I had to hop a couple fences, cross some train tracks, and jump over a ditch.

It was nice because I never had to use the locker room, just walk in, swipe my card, use the machines, and walk out. Then I would just change and shower back at my apartment.
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Zareth
07/13/17 10:58:48 AM
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wolfy42 posted...
I wouldn't go because...too much work to get there:)

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NejiHyuga900
07/13/17 11:03:42 AM
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I bike ride. I can't drive (don't know how, never learned, don't want to learn). I could walk but I don't want to waste too much time.
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nobletype
07/13/17 11:33:31 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
Cacciato posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
15-20min to walk a mile?


Yes. Believe it or not, that is the standard for walking one mile.


weird. if i walk slowly it still only takes me 12min.


You do realize a 12 minute mile is walking 5 MPH which is not walking slowly by any stretch of the imagination, right? Are you sure you know what a mile is?


iv'e walked a 10min mile during high-school p.e.
my fast walking is about as fast as those weirdoes who "powerwalk"

Except, no you didn't.


i started walking home from school in the 4th grade. walked home about 90% of the time 4th-12th. each school was over a mile to my house. i learned to walk faster so i would get home faster. (if its a route i know i can read and walk faster than some average speed that is slow because of the average fatness of people)

my stride is quite long when i make full use of it.


No one is questioning you walking (speed) walking a mile in 12 minutes. Its you saying that even when you walk slowly that it only amounts to 12 minutes that is the ignorant part. That is not feasible by any stretch of the imagination.
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nobletype
07/13/17 1:34:07 PM
#40:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
Cacciato posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
nobletype posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
15-20min to walk a mile?


Yes. Believe it or not, that is the standard for walking one mile.


weird. if i walk slowly it still only takes me 12min.


You do realize a 12 minute mile is walking 5 MPH which is not walking slowly by any stretch of the imagination, right? Are you sure you know what a mile is?


iv'e walked a 10min mile during high-school p.e.
my fast walking is about as fast as those weirdoes who "powerwalk"

Except, no you didn't.


i started walking home from school in the 4th grade. walked home about 90% of the time 4th-12th. each school was over a mile to my house. i learned to walk faster so i would get home faster. (if its a route i know i can read and walk faster than some average speed that is slow because of the average fatness of people)

my stride is quite long when i make full use of it.


No one is questioning you (speed) walking a mile in 12 minutes. Its you saying that even when you walk slowly that it only amounts to 12 minutes that is the ignorant part. That is not feasible by any stretch of the imagination.
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ParanoidObsessive
07/13/17 1:52:18 PM
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nobletype posted...
ParanoidObsessive posted...
6 minute mile if you're in relatively good shape, and may be able to get close to a 4 minute mile if you're a really good runner (and presumably male).

Hmm, I'm pretty sure you're underestimating the requirements for 6 and 4 minute miles. 6 minute miles are more than 'relatively good shape' -- and 4 minute miles are not just really good, that's elite status, to put it mildly.

I was mostly going by memory from school (when I was on the track team, but not a miler - I was a sprinter).

The 6 minute mile was relatively simple for most runners - even the sprinters, who focused on entirely different training - as long as they were in general running shape. I'd argue that almost anyone could easily get themselves to a 6 minute mile pace if they actually tried. It's less a question of intense training and more just a question of being in shape.

The 4 minute mile is definitely race-pace (our school record for the mile was 4:10, world record is something like 3:45 or so), and it's not something you're going to hit without a ton of training to specifically run distance/mile races, but if you DO put in that training, "close to 4" is an attainable goal, especially for adult males. By "close" I didn't mean "4:01" or the like as much as I mean anything relatively close to 4:00, which could include anything up to 4:25 or so (which I view as closer to 4:00 than 5:00).

If you're just doing general training, or specifically 5k/10k/marathon training then yes, close to 4 minutes might be a lot harder, but if you're specifically training for a fast mile, I feel like you could probably get within touching distance of it.

I might agree that my use of "relatively good" and "really good" wasn't hyperbolic enough, though. They probably implied a bit more casual effort than I actually meant.


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ParanoidObsessive
07/13/17 2:05:38 PM
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Flyingpirate posted...
Thats it eh? 1 mile? In Canada thats considered a quick stop to the corner store or Tim Hortons. I guess America is more urban. I used to jog 8 miles to the gym through snow. 4 miles uphill to work. 4 Miles downhill nowadays. Going down hill is annoying, I should sled down or something.

Depends on where you live. There are places where you basically have to drive 30 minutes just to get to your local grocery store, whereas other people can get to pretty much every single store they'd ever need in their entire life within 30 minutes.

People here have mentioned having to drive more than an hour to go to the movies, I can get there in 15 minutes.

Conversely, I don't actually have anything worth seeing or walking to within 1 mile of my house, so I walk almost nowhere. Whereas people who live in NYC might be able to live their entire lives within a 1-2 mile span of area.

Age is also a factor. I'd have been a lot more willing to walk a mile to get somewhere 20 years ago than I am now (I actually used to walk 5 miles to my local comic book store every week as a young teenager).



wolfy42 posted...
3mph is considered average walking speed. If you have a decent stride and walk fast, you can double that easily, and maintain it for a very long time.

And this is your problem.

If you are walking "double" average walking speed, you aren't actually "walking". And you definitely aren't walking "slowly".

What you're basically doing is "striding". If you like, you could also refer to it as "walking fast", "walking at a brisk pace", or even "trotting". But you aren't walking slow. 6mph is actually the peak of what is considered human walking speed. If you're moving faster than that, you aren't walking. And that pace is very difficult for most human beings to "maintain it for a very long time".

If you don't believe me, here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferred_walking_speed

To use a horse analogy, you're trotting but you're claiming to be walking, which are two different things. No, you aren't up to a cantor (jogging) yet, and you're definitely not at a gallop (running), but you're not really "walking slow" either.


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nobletype
07/13/17 7:49:14 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
nobletype posted...
ParanoidObsessive posted...
6 minute mile if you're in relatively good shape, and may be able to get close to a 4 minute mile if you're a really good runner (and presumably male).

Hmm, I'm pretty sure you're underestimating the requirements for 6 and 4 minute miles. 6 minute miles are more than 'relatively good shape' -- and 4 minute miles are not just really good, that's elite status, to put it mildly.

I was mostly going by memory from school (when I was on the track team, but not a miler - I was a sprinter).

The 6 minute mile was relatively simple for most runners - even the sprinters, who focused on entirely different training - as long as they were in general running shape. I'd argue that almost anyone could easily get themselves to a 6 minute mile pace if they actually tried. It's less a question of intense training and more just a question of being in shape.

The 4 minute mile is definitely race-pace (our school record for the mile was 4:10, world record is something like 3:45 or so), and it's not something you're going to hit without a ton of training to specifically run distance/mile races, but if you DO put in that training, "close to 4" is an attainable goal, especially for adult males. By "close" I didn't mean "4:01" or the like as much as I mean anything relatively close to 4:00, which could include anything up to 4:25 or so (which I view as closer to 4:00 than 5:00).

If you're just doing general training, or specifically 5k/10k/marathon training then yes, close to 4 minutes might be a lot harder, but if you're specifically training for a fast mile, I feel like you could probably get within touching distance of it.

I might agree that my use of "relatively good" and "really good" wasn't hyperbolic enough, though. They probably implied a bit more casual effort than I actually meant.



I overall agree with your post here. I think the main reason your initial post came across as plainly "casual effort" was because you had was because it was viewed from a dedicated runner's perspective. For a person running as a miler, or doing track and field, doing a mile in 6 minutes is "relatively good", and running a 4:25 mile is "really good", and they are labeled those by you because it is drawing comparison to other runners who are passionate about it. If you compare it to the average person, then 6 minutes is fantastic and 4:25 is pants-creaming.
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Krazy_Kirby
07/13/17 9:58:17 PM
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nobletype
07/14/17 12:17:08 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
http://usatfmn.org/faq.


i win.


So, you walk a 12 minute mile, slowly, as you said, with a style called race walking? Lmao, this gets better and better.
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Krazy_Kirby
07/14/17 12:35:24 AM
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^ no, the link proves you can walk quite faster than 12 and a couple minutes faster than 10
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SunWuKung420
07/14/17 12:38:00 AM
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I walk a mile to go to the bar.
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nobletype
07/14/17 1:53:16 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
^ no, the link proves you can walk quite faster than 12 and a couple minutes faster than 10


Again, no one is arguing that. People are criticizing you for saying you walk a 12 minute mile slowly. That's not feasible. I said this 3 times already.
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ParanoidObsessive
07/14/17 4:13:42 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
^ no, the link proves you can walk quite faster than 12 and a couple minutes faster than 10

Technically, it doesn't prove that, because "race walking" isn't walking in a literal sense. In much the same way that "speed walking" isn't walking. It's a specialized type of faster gait that straddles the line between running and walking that comes closer to jogging more than anything else.

Granted, you could always make the argument that "well, you HAVE to count it as walking because it has walk in its name", but on the page you linked to, literally the first line of text says that "race walking is a style of running".


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