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Ogurisama
06/16/17 7:45:08 PM
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Should fat people have to pay for two plane seats?


If they are large enough that they are spilling over into the seat beside them.
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EightySeven
06/16/17 7:48:27 PM
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Affirm/Deny?

Just use yes/no like a normal person.
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Ogurisama
06/16/17 7:48:47 PM
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RedPixel
06/16/17 7:55:42 PM
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As cruel as it sounds, it SUCKS when the person next to you is taking up half your seat. I voted yes.
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Questionmarktarius
06/16/17 8:00:59 PM
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The real solution is a row or three of "wide" seats, that cost more.
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Masamune_DS
06/16/17 8:04:38 PM
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From an airline's POV, if a plane was occupied with only heavily obese passengers, then they would be losing half their seats. While not a pleasant thought, I can see why they would charge for a second seat.
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Aaantlion
06/16/17 8:07:37 PM
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Depends on how fat they are, although QM's argument also works.
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Jen0125
06/16/17 8:09:18 PM
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yes. if they literally can't just fit into one seat they should have to buy two.
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Golden Road
06/16/17 8:10:07 PM
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Masamune_DS posted...
From an airline's POV, if a plane was occupied with only heavily obese passengers, then they would be losing half their seats. While not a pleasant thought, I can see why they would charge for a second seat.

They'd only lose a third of the seats, not half. One person in the window seat, one person in the aisle seat, no one in the middle seat that no one wants anyway. It would be silly not to have the middle seat as the "extra" seat.
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Ogurisama
06/16/17 8:23:14 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
yes. if they literally can't just fit into one seat they should have to buy two.

Love how Jen is always so harsh on fat people
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Jen0125
06/16/17 8:24:53 PM
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it's not harsh, it's supply and demand.

you demand two seats, they supply it. you pay for it.

plus i hate when people touch me and if i'm on a plane i don't want someone's abdomen and legs taking up my space touching me for fucking hours. that's gross.
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thecolorgreen
06/16/17 8:25:50 PM
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jen isnt fat anymore so she can be harsh
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Jen0125
06/16/17 8:29:35 PM
#13:


What

I would never ever have been close to two plane seats big
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wolfy42
06/16/17 8:32:54 PM
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How do they determine if someone is fat? I mean, it can't be by weight. At peak shape I weigh 220 which can be considered fat for many people. At 260 I have a bit of a gut but can totally fit in a normal seat no problem, but heck alot of people would be freaking beach balls at 260.

Do they like measure your waist size or something?

I mean, it's pretty crazy that standard seats are so crammed together that if someone is overweight they can't fit in one, although this is true in many theaters (orchestra etc, not movie theaters anymore at least thank god...well usually).

The suggestion to offer more "comfortable" seats on each flight for slightly more (2 seats per row instead of 3), for an increased price (about 25% more), makes the most sense to me. You wouldn't need THAT many of them (I just can't imagine there are that many, even americans, who can't fit in anormal seat), and you lose out on 33% (2 seats instead of 3), you only charge 25% more because you use less fuel with one less person, and don't offer a lunch/beverages etc to them, no paperwork, luggage shipped etc.

Charging for 2 seats is a total rip off.

And honestly you could even make it so the seats work for either 2 or 3 people (just have it be bench seats, with arms that come down in multiple places (so you can sit 2 or 3 people on the bench seat depending on what you need). Yes, those seats can't go back like the others, but it gives you options and they can be used for standby etc in a pinch.

The current setup of charging twice as much is ridiculous.
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Jen0125
06/16/17 8:34:21 PM
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They could do like amusement park rides and stick a seat by the gate. If you can't fit in then you need to buy another seat.
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wolfy42
06/16/17 8:35:30 PM
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Oh btw, I only fly first class (I think I may have flown standard once but it was soooo long ago I don't remember it anymore), so I really have no experience with how uncomfortable standard seats are. If people can't fit in them though, it's gotta be pretty tight.

Had a similar experience watching Phantom of the Operah at the Orpheum theator in SF...those seats crammed everyone in like freaking sardines. I don't have extra width (I have literally no hips), but I like to sit with my legs spread, it's comfortable for me. You could freaking not do that in the theater as there was no room, you had to sit with your knees together for the whole freaking production AND it was super warm because so many people where crammed together.

So not enjoyable.

If I had to be on a flight like that for 12+ hours...I think I'd freaking jump off the plane just for some fresh air.
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HelIWithoutSin
06/16/17 8:36:00 PM
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On the bright side, they'll get two in-flight meals.
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wolfy42
06/16/17 8:36:31 PM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
On the bright side, they'll get two in-flight meals.



Lol

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wolfy42
06/16/17 8:39:24 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
They could do like amusement park rides and stick a seat by the gate. If you can't fit in then you need to buy another seat.



That would certainly slow things down but yeah, that would work.

I think it's crazy things have come to this point, but I do see people who.......have alot of extra pounds....often. I can see how they would not fit into a normal seat or even close. I would certainly not wanna be the people sitting around him/her when half of him/her is in your space.

So I can get how it would be needed, but there has to be a better way. You would imagine suchpeople would realize the problem in advance and try and find a way that wouldn't make other customers uncomfortable.

Perhaps this is happening because too many people DIDN'T care and squished other passengers.

If that is the case, then I still blame the airline for not comming up with a solution, but at least it's not all about greed.
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Jen0125
06/16/17 9:22:28 PM
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Some of them literally turn themselves into victims over it instead of empathizing that they're making another person uncomfortable. They get upset that the person is annoyed by having to share their space. They get annoyed if someone tries to put a physical barrier up so they aren't getting touched by some random persons fat body. It's really bizarre.
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Ogurisama
06/16/17 10:23:08 PM
#21:


Jen0125 posted...
Some of them literally turn themselves into victims over it instead of empathizing that they're making another person uncomfortable. They get upset that the person is annoyed by having to share their space. They get annoyed if someone tries to put a physical barrier up so they aren't getting touched by some random persons fat body. It's really bizarre.

They gwt all insulted when they are the ones voilating your space. It is very hypocritical of them
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Lightning Bolt
06/16/17 10:26:37 PM
#22:


HelIWithoutSin posted...
On the bright side, they'll get two in-flight meals.

As a fat man, I'm suddenly on board.
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Smarkil
06/16/17 10:28:44 PM
#23:


As a 6'3 broad shouldered person, yeah, absolutely.

Questionmarktarius posted...
The real solution is a row or three of "wide" seats, that cost more.


Yeah I'm honestly surprised they haven't started making a few fat rows on planes. You could argue that first class is a fat row I guess, but it's usually exorbitantly more.

I would pay for a fatty seat that didn't have any of the other first class amenities.
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Questionmarktarius
06/16/17 10:31:36 PM
#24:


Smarkil posted...
I would pay for a fatty seat that didn't have any of the other first class amenities.

I'd pay extra for a fatty seat without needing one (yet).
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eating4fun
06/16/17 10:35:19 PM
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This reminds me of somoan airlines, where they got international attention as the first airline to start charging passengers based on weight. They fly small planes where weight is a big factor on fuel consumption, and the vast majority of somoans are obese.
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Dikitain
06/16/17 10:37:11 PM
#26:


Ogurisama posted...
EightySeven posted...
Affirm/Deny?

Just use yes/no like a normal person.

Agree
Disagree

You can't agree or disagree with a question, only a statement.

You can answer a question with a yes or no though.
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Blighboy
06/16/17 10:39:01 PM
#27:


I hope America implements a fat tax soon.
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PurpIePerson
06/16/17 10:40:22 PM
#28:


As an overweight person, yes you should absolutely have to buy a second seat.
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Dikitain
06/16/17 10:42:37 PM
#29:


Blighboy posted...
I hope America implements a fat tax soon.

I think there should be "fat spots" in the parking lots of stores.

Basically the opposite of handicap spots, where they are the farthest away from the entrance.
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FourthDimension
06/16/17 10:43:20 PM
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Lol if there's a fat topic, you can bet jen's gonna chime in
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TheCyborgNinja
06/16/17 10:59:00 PM
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If I lose part of my space, I think they should have to give me some money...
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SunWuKung420
06/16/17 11:09:15 PM
#32:


So much fat shaming in this topic by fat people who never leave their house.

If your weight causes your body to touch your neighbor on a plane, either planes need bigger seats or certain people need to pay for two seats.
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Muscles
06/16/17 11:25:53 PM
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Maybe they should give people more room, and get wider seats
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TyVulpine
06/16/17 11:42:17 PM
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No, as that's discrimination, forcing only them to buy two seats.
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SusanGreenEyes
06/16/17 11:44:01 PM
#35:


TyVulpine posted...
No, as that's discrimination, forcing only them to buy two seats.

What would you suggest the person next to this person do, when a full seat was bought, but a stranger is taking up half of it?
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wwinterj25
06/16/17 11:47:30 PM
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Everyone should pay for the seats they need. If you're obese and need more than one seat then you pay for two simply because you'll be taking that extra seat that could be used for another paying customer. I simply won't enable obese people by letting them think it's ok to be obese.
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JanwayDaahl
06/16/17 11:58:19 PM
#37:


FourthDimension posted...
Lol if there's a fat topic, you can bet jen's gonna chime in


Which is strange, since she's pretty fat herself
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Rasmoh
06/17/17 12:00:57 AM
#38:


Muscles posted...
Maybe they should give people more room, and get wider seats


Or maybe obese people should stop stuffing their gullets with junk 24/7.

If you take up more than your seat, you should have to pay for more. Period.
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Smarkil
06/17/17 12:03:42 AM
#39:


SunWuKung420 posted...
So much fat shaming in this topic by fat people who never leave their house.

If your weight causes your body to touch your neighbor on a plane, either planes need bigger seats or certain people need to pay for two seats.


Lol wtf? Nobody even said anything fat shaming before you posted. You'd think a fat shamer would recognize fat shaming.
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wwinterj25
06/17/17 12:11:34 AM
#40:


JanwayDaahl posted...
Which is strange, since she's pretty fat herself


So you're persona is a thin Asian gal who eats spicy food? Interesting.
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Lightning Bolt
06/17/17 12:15:52 AM
#41:


wwinterj25 posted...
JanwayDaahl posted...
Which is strange, since she's pretty fat herself


So you're persona is a thin Asian gal who eats spicy food? Interesting.

I actually played one of those in a D&D campaign once!
Her name was Zriorica, she was a cleric of the goddess of imagination, and she lasted roughly 2 sessions before the GM quit. Spicy food was her favorite :>
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wwinterj25
06/17/17 12:19:56 AM
#42:


Lightning Bolt posted...
I actually played one of those in a D&D campaign once!
Her name was Zriorica, she was a cleric of the goddess of imagination, and she lasted roughly 2 sessions before the GM quit. Spicy food was her favorite :>


Perhaps JanwayDaahl had the same idea!
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ChaoticKnuckles
06/17/17 12:28:20 AM
#43:


Ogurisama posted...
If they are large enough that they are spilling over into the seat beside them.


Absolutely they should. The other people paid for full seats, not half of one. If someone is so big that they occupy more than one seat then they should be paying for more than one seat.
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Lokarin
06/17/17 12:33:15 AM
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Don't conflate "fat" people with walking tanks.
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Jen0125
06/17/17 1:00:12 AM
#45:


Oh am I fat now
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TyVulpine
06/17/17 1:04:51 AM
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SusanGreenEyes posted...
TyVulpine posted...
No, as that's discrimination, forcing only them to buy two seats.

What would you suggest the person next to this person do, when a full seat was bought, but a stranger is taking up half of it?

Be bumped up to the next class as compensation? But still requiring a person to buy a second seat but nobody else is discrimination.
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Jen0125
06/17/17 1:08:33 AM
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TyVulpine posted...
SusanGreenEyes posted...
TyVulpine posted...
No, as that's discrimination, forcing only them to buy two seats.

What would you suggest the person next to this person do, when a full seat was bought, but a stranger is taking up half of it?

Be bumped up to the next class as compensation? But still requiring a person to buy a second seat but nobody else is discrimination.


Why should they get a free upgrade because they got too big to sit in standard sized seats?? Or am I misreading? The person next to them should get a free upgrade? They'll have to start upgrading half the plane with the way the obesity rates are trending.
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TyVulpine
06/17/17 1:11:33 AM
#48:


Jen0125 posted...
TyVulpine posted...
SusanGreenEyes posted...
TyVulpine posted...
No, as that's discrimination, forcing only them to buy two seats.

What would you suggest the person next to this person do, when a full seat was bought, but a stranger is taking up half of it?

Be bumped up to the next class as compensation? But still requiring a person to buy a second seat but nobody else is discrimination.


Why should they get a free upgrade because they got too big to sit in standard sized seats?? Or am I misreading? The person next to them should get a free upgrade? They'll have to start upgrading half the plane with the way the obesity rates are trending.

But requiring the fat people to pay for two seats is discrimination and illegal. And it's also the airlines' fault for making the seats smaller and smaller.
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Jen0125
06/17/17 1:15:48 AM
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It's not discrimination and it's not illegal. If you literally can't fit in one seat and you need to two then why shouldn't you have to buy two tickets? You require two seats.
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eating4fun
06/17/17 1:38:03 AM
#50:


Jen0125 posted...
It's not discrimination and it's not illegal. If you literally can't fit in one seat and you need to two then why shouldn't you have to buy two tickets? You require two seats.


Well actually, an airline ticket is a contract between you and an airline to get you to a destination. It's called contract of carriage. There's a bunch of crap that the FAA enforces that the contract must have, and then a bunch of crap that the airline does as they please.


https://www.delta.com/content/dam/delta-www/pdfs/legal/contract_of_carriage_dom.pdf
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