Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Dante Shulk Bossman Yuri Raziel v Armstrong Diablo Bass Chrom Vanille

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Lopen
06/14/17 7:48:56 PM
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Dante, Shulk, Bossman Coolguy, Yuri Hyuga, and Raziel have challenged Senator Steven Armstrong, Diablo, Bass, Chrom, Vanille to a fight! Location of the fight: Arena Ferox (Awakening) - Arena Ferox is as it appears in Fire Emblem Awakening, as an open colosseum. The only areas accessible in it are those within the map in-game. Both attackers and defenders will start at diametrically opposed entrances. Which side will win?


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- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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Dante is as he appears in Devil May Cry 4, though he does not have his canon regen. He may access Devil Trigger for up to 10 seconds every 5 minutes. He also has all of his weapons from Devil May Cry 3. He does not have access to Kalina Ann, Yamato, or any styles only seen in Devil May Cry 3. All of his weapons have been enchanted with divine power. Dante has been frozen solid for the first 5 seconds of battle, after which he'll thaw with no ill effects.

Shulk is as he appears in Xenoblade Chronicles, with all arts and skill trees learned and fully upgraded. He is equipped with the Monado II and Glory set of armour.

Bossman Coolguy is as seen in XCOM: Enemy Within as a Colonel of class MEC Trooper and carrying endgame equipment as well as a Particle Cannon and Paladin with the Hyper Reactive Pupils and Secondary Heart gene mods. His weapons will self destruct upon leaving his possession. Bossman Coolguy starts the fight by the enemy team.

Yuri Hyuga is as seen at the end of Shadow Hearts: Covenant, with access to all of his equipment and fusions, with the exception of Dark Seraphim. He begins the fight in his Neo Amon form.

Raziel is as he appears in Legacy of Kain: Defiance, with all of his upgrades, equipment, and abilities from that game, with the exception of Phase Shifting and Possession. Once per match if he dies, he will immediately reanimate to full health at his starting location.
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06/14/17 7:49:06 PM
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~VS~

Senator Steven Armstrong is as seen in his boss fight in Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, with access to all of his powers and abilities. He cannot access Metal Gear Excelsius. During this match, It Has To be This Way will play loudly all over the terrain. Armstrong has been hit by Shulk's Back Slash. Armstrong has been bombarded by Bossman Coolguy's Particle Cannon.

Diablo is as he appears in Diablo 3 and Heroes of the Storm, with all of his attacks and abilities, although cannot turn into his shadow form. Diablo has been bombarded by Bossman Coolguy's Particle Cannon.

Bass.EXE is as he appears in the Megaman Battle Network series, with access to all the moves and properties of his Omega forms (including Bass Omega GS), though if any of his barriers/auras is destroyed, he loses access to all of them for the rest of the fight. He can operate here same as he does on the Net. He has Zero's X-Form as seen in Mega Man Zero 2. Bass.EXE has a magical barrier in place where the only elemental magic he can be affected by is Shadow magic, though both sides are aware, and no he's not limited to just magic of that type. He will lose the benefits of the barrier if he risks casting Dark Matter. Bass.EXE has been bombarded by Bossman Coolguy's Particle Cannon.

Chrom is as seen in Fire Emblem Awakening, as a level 20 Great Lord. He is equipped with the Exalted Falchion, Noble Rapier, Blessed Lance, and Gradivus and has the skills Dual Strike+, Dual Guard+, Aether, Aegis, and Rightful King.

Vanille is as seen in the postgame of Final Fantasy XIII, equipped with Nirvana-Belladonna Wand, Tetradic Crown, Ribbon, Magus's Bracelet, and Magistral Crest, all at max level. She has fully mastered the Ravager, Medic, and Saboteur sections of the Crystarium, and may freely switch between the roles. She may not cast Raise, Death, nor use any Techniques.

Will Chrom please the audience with another victory at the Arena Ferox? Or will his team be the next victims of the Bossman Slam? FIGHT!
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06/14/17 7:50:11 PM
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I don't know how this match pans out but maybe @ScareChan and @greengravy294 will explain it for me.
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Drakeryn
06/14/17 7:52:19 PM
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thinking Shulk's precog hax + Monado Shield is plenty to let Dante survive 5 seconds

then Team Dante's superior battle worth wins out

especially since Bass.EXE is panicking (I think?)
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greengravy294
06/14/17 7:52:28 PM
#5:


bossman coolguy mec trooper montage:

https://youtu.be/1yoIhy3n7PQ?t=404

https://youtu.be/XjKteXu8mj8?t=13

big and strong
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06/14/17 7:53:01 PM
#6:


bass.exe probably stopped panic with his LIFE AURA.
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Drakeryn
06/14/17 7:53:44 PM
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also the SoB bombardment probably does a number on Armstrong since he can't react to harden his nanomachines
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Drakeryn
06/14/17 7:54:35 PM
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Lopen posted...
bass.exe probably stopped panic with his LIFE AURA.

oh that wily bass
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greengravy294
06/14/17 7:56:27 PM
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alright so with bossman coolguy's destructive rampage he's going to distract the enemies in a valiant effort to save dear dante.

mec troopers are very good in short range, they have incredibly strong melee attacks and a fairly large electricity aoe that turns robots (i.e. bass) offline and stuns them.

no ones really fast enough to even get close enough to damage dante in 5 seconds, and...well he's flanked by 3 super good mercs too
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Eddv
06/14/17 8:01:59 PM
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He did yes.

Points in favor of Team Diablo
- Diablo and Armstrong are p good in a shoebox
- no Dante in opening onslaught
- Vanille probably gets a round of debuffs off which will help (reminder that she lacks access to her buffs without her locked forms)
- Bass cant be magicked basically

Points in favor of Team Dante
- Dante with divine weapons
- unsure bass, Diablo and Armstrong can make it to and defeat Dante in 5 seconds thanks to Monado shield and Bossmans mec.
- Raziel is going to be able to very quickly gank Vanille and cause lots of problems for Armstrong and Bass (especislly since he actually has a shadow Reaver)
- almost no magic outside of arguably Raziel who has an answer for it anyway.
- loads of buffs from Shulk
- photon canon bombardment is bad news, anti life aura is instantly popped, Armstrong may have a hole in his chest (which may or may not kill him before nano.machines kick in, bare minimum they make it hard for him to take advantage of frozen dante) diablo is hurt but probably not crippled

Hard to see anything that tips this scale in favor of Diablo unless you buy red lightning hose killing frozen dante and even if it does this is STILL a tight match
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ScareChan
06/14/17 8:02:16 PM
#11:


Vanille isnt tagged to start so she gets off Fogga. Mec is by us so he is dead.

Armstrong has them NANOMACHINES son and is goingto heal,Vanille can healthe SoB damage.

Raizel wont hurt us because we're bros


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Lopen
06/14/17 8:05:13 PM
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How good is the monado shield-- cause red lightning hose goes through most stuff. Like is it a shield or more of a domed forcefield kinda thing.
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ScareChan
06/14/17 8:07:33 PM
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Is it likely for him to start off with the sheild

since my team knows its a small terrain and we have somoene frozen so they are likely to start with AOE
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06/14/17 8:08:58 PM
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Well he literally has precognition so if it's the way to save Dante he is very likely to do so

Question is if it actually does-- it would need to be domed for me to feel safe saying it blocks otherwise I'd see it just flowing around
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greengravy294
06/14/17 8:09:00 PM
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Lopen posted...
How good is the monado shield-- cause red lightning hose goes through most stuff. Like is it a shield or more of a domed forcefield kinda thing.

https://youtu.be/BuUNuuvEjdI?t=560

forcefield i guess
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Eddv
06/14/17 8:09:21 PM
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Lmao i just instinctively skipped over Yuri.

He sure does make an impression
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Lopen
06/14/17 8:10:07 PM
#17:


Yeah I'd see that being optimal for stopping it assuming it has the chops to stand up to it and the duration.
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Corrik
06/14/17 8:10:49 PM
#18:


Doesn't ever matter if Dante dies while frozen. The team probably still easily wins.
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greengravy294
06/14/17 8:11:13 PM
#19:


also there is Monado Armor, which is a second defensive buff.

i mean why diablo would focus on a guy across the arena when theres a guy that shot in point blank in the chest with a particle cannon seems rather suspect to me. to quote lopen "i bet he's probably dazed for a few seconds heh sabin suplexes sob"
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Eddv
06/14/17 8:11:19 PM
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Well itd need a 5 second duration and seems to have it in that cutscene
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greengravy294
06/14/17 8:12:13 PM
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being facitious of course.

mec trooper is pretty damn good and tanky in melee range and has a shock field that disrupts. guy is gonna go down obviously but not without being a gigantic pain in the ass
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Lopen
06/14/17 8:12:19 PM
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Suplex is stronger than a dumb bossman slam
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MasaomiHouzuki
06/14/17 8:13:43 PM
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So, endgame mec trooper particle cannon does a lot of damage, but not enough to outright OHKO mid to endgame tanky units. I think it's the most damaging single target damage weapon, other than a fully upgraded endgame falcon punch or a fully upgraded damage specced Sniper.

I think the logical followup to this is either 1) Flamethrower 2) Electopulse (how does this interact with the nanomachines?) or charge in and 3) rocket punch someone. Even if someone gets an attack off on MECs, they can shoot back in reaction.

All I'm saying is MEC is serious business, but unlikely to have completely killed someone in the initial volley. Probably a followup is required.
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ScareChan
06/14/17 8:16:03 PM
#24:


I feel starting by my team hedoesnt get anything off after theSoB
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Eddv
06/14/17 8:17:01 PM
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Thats a good point electo pulse temporarily disables robotic enemies so a shot from that renders Armstrong pretty weak.

Question is if thats MECs desired followup - given bass is around though it might be
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greengravy294
06/14/17 8:18:15 PM
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Well, Armstrong is actually quite mortal without his nanomachines working properly or if he doesn't harden up (lol) in time. Like Sam taking off his arm on a feint, which was pretty cool.

Regardless with three heavy hitters getting hit by a fucking plasma cannon they aren't just going to no sell it. They'll be staggered, and there's time for a MEC trooper to follow up. In fact, a MEC trooper is best isolated. His shock field damages allies and I believe the flamethrower as well. No worries for friendly fire, more or less.
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MasaomiHouzuki
06/14/17 8:18:25 PM
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Eh, actually retract the counterattack thing; MEC needs to reload after bombardment, so has to switch to a secondary.
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MasaomiHouzuki
06/14/17 8:20:50 PM
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And yeah, thinking about it, if I was outfitting a MEC and knew they were starting out next to enemy team, I'd probably load out with: Kinetic strike, grenades and Electropulse. Maybe a tossup between endgame flamethrower and endgame kinetic strike. Proxy mines are great but not something that you'd want when you're up in someone's grill; same with the medic spray.
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Lopen
06/14/17 8:20:54 PM
#29:


I could see Armstrong being staggered

Bass has life aura + is a robot so probably isn't staggered

Diablo is beefy enough that I think he can probably take it. Would be worse if he was suplexed though since he'd start on the ground.
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MenuWars
06/14/17 8:23:37 PM
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Nano Machines or not Armstrong's starting off really hurting here. Diablo's gonna be hurt by the particle cannon but not maimed by it and he'll probably rip the MEC in half as his first action.

Raziel's gonna have enough distractions to get in on Diablo and critically wound him, whether Raziel lives through it I doubt.

With all this going on, plus Shulk and Yuri kicking off I'm sure Dante gets out of Freeze in tact. So it's basically Dante and Shulk versus Injured Armstrong and Bass.Exe who's probably been buffed up a bit by Vanille before Shulk squishes her, and Chrom who I don't particularly rate against this opposition.

Dante cleans up
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greengravy294
06/14/17 8:24:58 PM
#31:


Anyway Electro Pulse shuts down alien tech so I really don't see why tech from the 2000s would be impervious to being shut down. Seems pretty bad for Bass and Armstrong all things considered.
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MenuWars
06/14/17 8:29:08 PM
#32:


Actually I can't figure out who can smash Bass's shield here. Unvote for now Raziel on his second life maybe?
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greengravy294
06/14/17 8:31:37 PM
#33:


Why wouldn't a plasma cannon shot to Bass disable Life Aura? That seems 'pretty strong'
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MasaomiHouzuki
06/14/17 8:31:39 PM
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Its range is pretty limited though; it's not exactly melee but it's pretty close. If I had to say, it's about two meters radius. It's not impossible to land, but the MEC would need to maneuver in order to use it. So it's possible that it's trying to punch Diablo instead or even a desperation reload is all he can do. Unless bass comes into melee range or something.
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ScareChan
06/14/17 8:33:20 PM
#35:


Bass has his copy ability here too, so anything nifty that the MEC can do, Bass can replicate. So if he sees a big boom he can turn that around
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greengravy294
06/14/17 8:33:33 PM
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It's worth noting that the MEC trooper has a Secondary Heart which basically is an extended bleed out for the guy if he'd normally die.
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ScareChan
06/14/17 8:34:18 PM
#37:


So double life bass, nifty!
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MenuWars
06/14/17 8:34:19 PM
#38:


I dunno I feel like Shadow Magic nerfs Dante with his holy affinity here and the Particle Cannon probably gets no sold. Albeit if the magical barrier only affects magic based attacks it's a different story.
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MenuWars
06/14/17 8:35:17 PM
#39:


Nah the Mec gets straight up one shotted by Diablo, he's got teleport and needs to reload, Mecs dead.
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greengravy294
06/14/17 8:39:35 PM
#40:


The shadow barrier works the same way as it does in CT. Magus is damageable with melee attacks. Says it in bold too.
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MenuWars
06/14/17 8:41:51 PM
#41:


Cool then back to Dante
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ScareChan
06/14/17 8:44:46 PM
#42:


MenuWars posted...
Cool then back to Dante


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IkwwngK2Ls


This song is playing over the battle. If you think Dante gets right to business, you would be wrong. He is rocking the fuck out and just chilling until he gets punched in the mush, and then he gets serious
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MenuWars
06/14/17 8:48:06 PM
#43:


But Dante loves fighting to this kind of stuff, if anything it makes him even better? If you were playing like I dunno, S Club 7 or something I could see an argument for Dante refusing to participate, but that argument doesn't work for me sorry Scare :(
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ScareChan
06/14/17 8:49:38 PM
#44:


He'll fight,he'll get into it, but he's goingto soak it in first
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greengravy294
06/14/17 8:50:52 PM
#45:


https://youtu.be/2MPPLrePwBU?t=443


true he does love jiving out
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MenuWars
06/14/17 8:51:56 PM
#46:


Notice he only starts properly fight ONCE there's music. Which kind of contradicts your argument.
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Eddv
06/14/17 8:52:26 PM
#47:


I like Scares argument a lot but Dante's team has too much going on here.
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MajinZidane
06/14/17 8:52:49 PM
#48:


MenuWars posted...
Nah the Mec gets straight up one shotted by Diablo, he's got teleport and needs to reload, Mecs dead.



I actually don't agree with this. I don't think that things that happen as an ability impact the fight anymore than it explicitly says in the ability.

Bossman Coolguy is as seen in XCOM: Enemy Within as a Colonel of class MEC Trooper and carrying endgame equipment as well as a Particle Cannon and Paladin with the Hyper Reactive Pupils and Secondary Heart gene mods. His weapons will self destruct upon leaving his possession. Bossman Coolguy starts the fight by the enemy team.


This says he is as seen in XCOM starting next to the enemy team, not as seen in XCOM with an empty clip and needs to reload.
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MajinZidane
06/14/17 8:53:53 PM
#49:


if you wanna refute with anything other than "oh okay" then my answer to your post in advance is ""mercs""
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MenuWars
06/14/17 8:54:17 PM
#50:


Fair Boko... but I still don't see how the Mec deals with Diablo teleporting into his face and ripping him in half? They're slow as fuck.
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