Poll of the Day > Van mows down pedestrians on London Bridge

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/europe/london-bridge-incident/index.html

English PotDers I hope you are okay
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I'm gonna guess that you have Icoyar on ignore.

It's sad that ISIS needs to resort to vans to get our attention :(

So, when are we carpet bombing the region?
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

It's sad that ISIS needs to resort to vans to get our attention :(

So, when are we carpet bombing the region?

You wanna carpet bomb London?
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Erik_P posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It's sad that ISIS needs to resort to vans to get our attention :(

So, when are we carpet bombing the region?

You wanna carpet bomb London?

You're not funny, stop trying.

I want to carpet bomb wherever ISIS is holed up, I want to make them realise Gaddafi's insanity was small fry compared to the terrorism we can envoke on them.
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Cacciato posted...

I'm gonna guess that you have Icoyar on ignore.

That I do
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Erik_P posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It's sad that ISIS needs to resort to vans to get our attention :(

So, when are we carpet bombing the region?

You wanna carpet bomb London?

You're not funny, stop trying.

I want to carpet bomb wherever ISIS is holed up, I want to make them realise Gaddafi's insanity was small fry compared to the terrorism we can envoke on them.

I wasn't being funny. You didn't say shit about what region you were referring to.

Also, carpet bombing has the unfortunate side effect of killing innocent people.
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Cacciato posted...

I'm gonna guess that you have Icoyar on ignore.

I'm guessing he made a topic going

SEE I TOLD YOU TRUMP 2020

Erik_P posted...

Also, carpet bombing has the unfortunate side effect of killing innocent people.

When it's a culture that breeds death cult terrorists, it's not a huge loss to get rid of them too.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

It's sad that ISIS needs to resort to vans to get our attention :(

So, when are we carpet bombing the region?

I was reading the other day about a single US drone strike that was meant to kill two snipers, and ended up killing 100+ civilians as well. I'm sure stuff like that won't make it easier for people to because radicalized to hate the west and commit acts of terror or anything.
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7 People announced dead so far. Apparently the attackers were yelling "this is for Allah"
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I'm legitimately surprised the U.S. hasn't seen any terror attacks since...I think November? Makes me wonder why the UK and France are getting more atm.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Erik_P posted...

Also, carpet bombing has the unfortunate side effect of killing innocent people.

When it's a culture that breeds death cult terrorists, it's not a huge loss to get rid of them too.

You suck.
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Sarcasthma posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Erik_P posted...

Also, carpet bombing has the unfortunate side effect of killing innocent people.

When it's a culture that breeds death cult terrorists, it's not a huge loss to get rid of them too.

You suck.

I guess his post has blown up since you got triggered by his response, falafel.
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Dreaming_King posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It's sad that ISIS needs to resort to vans to get our attention :(

So, when are we carpet bombing the region?

I was reading the other day about a single US drone strike that was meant to kill two snipers, and ended up killing 100+ civilians as well. I'm sure stuff like that won't make it easier for people to because radicalized to hate the west and commit acts of terror or anything.

That's not doing enough. Rather than fumbling taking out a couple throwaway minions, there should be several bombers doing flyovers of particularly radicalised cities and absolutely leveling them.

You don't stop an organisation by stopping a couple grunts, you destroy their means to operate.

Smarkil posted...

I'm legitimately surprised the U.S. hasn't seen any terror attacks since...I think November? Makes me wonder why the UK and France are getting more atm.

Literally on a different continent.

Sarcasthma posted...

You suck.

I'm guessing you're fine with these little shit bags taking pot shots at us over and over for decades? They have no intention of stopping so every day we let them keep existing we allow them to kill even more innocent people with no effect on the likelyhood of future deaths.

We should've vaporised them a long time ago and avoided all these casualties but your kind insist on drawing this out and increasing the overall death count.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Literally on a different continent.

No shit? I had no idea. Thanks for informing me.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

So, when are we carpet bombing the region?

My thoughts exactly.
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aHappySacka posted...

I guess his post has blown up since you got triggered by his response, falafel.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

I'm guessing you're fine with these little shit bags taking pot shots at us over and over for decades?

Oh yeah, I really love terrorism.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

They have no intention of stopping so every day we let them keep existing we allow them to kill even more innocent people with no effect on the likelyhood of future deaths.

We should've vaporised them a long time ago and avoided all these casualties but your kind insist on drawing this out and increasing the overall death count.

So you want to protect innocent people by killing innocent people?
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Sarcasthma posted...

So you want to protect innocent people by killing innocent people?

Does your mind really only think in one dimension?

You kill a hundred innocents to save a thousand. ISIS will kill a few every now and then until they're wiped out, if we keep pussyfooting about then that will last indefinitely, this means that they will kill more than we ever could with an aggressive bombing campaign, assuming the body count isn't that high already.
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Sarcasthma posted...

So you want to protect innocent people by killing innocent people?

It's a necessary evil. It won't happen though as we are too soft.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Sarcasthma posted...

So you want to protect innocent people by killing innocent people?

Does your mind really only think in one dimension?

You kill a hundred innocents to save a thousand.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Rather than fumbling taking out a couple throwaway minions, there should be several bombers doing flyovers of particularly radicalised cities and absolutely leveling them.

So how many civilians would these bombings save, and how many would they kill?
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wwinterj25 posted...

It won't happen though as we are too soft.

Fortunately more people seeming to be turning harsh, persistent attacks are wearing down people's willingness to wait it out.
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Ogurisama posted...

Cacciato posted...

I'm gonna guess that you have Icoyar on ignore.

That I do

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I like how some idiot is condoning slautingering innocent civilians who live in a war torn country because terrorists their country created are hiding there.

Sarcasthma posted...

So how many civilians would these bombings save, and how many would they kill?

I'm more curious about what number of innocents killed would be considered unacceptable.

He says it's fine to kill a few hundred people to save thousands. What about the other way? Is it fine to kill a few thousand to save a few hundred? A few million to save a few hundred?

If you would want to completely erase any chance of an uprising in retaliation to the "carpet bombings", the number of people killed would have to be astronomical, otherwise the end result would just be an increase in attacks as there would be a very valid reason for them to retaliate.
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Sarcasthma posted...

So how many civilians would these bombings save, and how many would they kill?

Let's take a really rough and upper end number like say... The same as the entire population of Syria (19 million people). I don't know where they're based or where they currently hold but I can't imagine it being possible to exceed killing that many innocent even with an extremely aggressive campaign.

This staves off a group literally trying to send the world to Allah in an apocalypse, so the population of the planet (7.5 billion people).

Fight terror with terror, cauterize 0.25% of the population to save the rest.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Fight terror with terror, cauterize 0.25% of the population to save the rest.

Well that answers my question.

Neat.
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This news story is very confusing considering that the actual "London Bridge" is now in Arizona.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Sarcasthma posted...

So how many civilians would these bombings save, and how many would they kill?

Let's take a really rough and upper end number like say... The same as the entire population of Syria (19 million people). I don't know where they're based or where they currently hold but I can't imagine it being possible to exceed killing that many innocent even with an extremely aggressive campaign.

This staves off a group literally trying to send the world to Allah in an apocalypse, so the population of the planet (7.5 billion people).

Fight terror with terror, cauterize 0.25% of the population to save the rest.

Could someone be rhis ignorant and stupid?

Oh man, this guy is fucking delusional.
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Lil69Leo posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Sarcasthma posted...

So how many civilians would these bombings save, and how many would they kill?

Let's take a really rough and upper end number like say... The same as the entire population of Syria (19 million people). I don't know where they're based or where they currently hold but I can't imagine it being possible to exceed killing that many innocent even with an extremely aggressive campaign.

This staves off a group literally trying to send the world to Allah in an apocalypse, so the population of the planet (7.5 billion people).

Fight terror with terror, cauterize 0.25% of the population to save the rest.

Could someone be rhis ignorant and stupid?

Yes.. -___-'
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19 million = "rough and upper end number"

THE ENTIRE FUCKING POPULATION OF EARTH = yeah, I'm totally being reasonable

DorkLink posted...

19 million = "rough and upper end number"

THE ENTIRE FUCKING POPULATION OF EARTH = yeah, I'm totally being reasonable

Do you think there will be a day when ISIS will go "You know what? I think we've done enough terror, let's just pack up our bombs and go home."? As is we as effectively letting them do whatever they like so on the current trajectory it'll eventually lead to genocide of everyone.

It's like North Korea, where we do nothing because we're too scared of damage they'll with shit they've had for decades, but because of the stalemate going so long they've developed fucking nukes which makes the situation a thousand times worse.
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There could be a day when their recruiting/coercing members isn't effective anymore. Even if the ideology doesn't die, it still needs people to sustain it. They're not a factory that magically pumps out terrorists. We already have been fighting them for a long time, and if you think that carpet bombing is the only way to prevent them from spreading to the entire world, you're, as has already been said, fucking delusional.


Also are you aware of how many of them operate (literally) underground? I'm assuming they have some significantly fortified bunkers, so I'm not sure where you get the idea that bombing everything is even a guarantee to wipe them out.

Enjoy that warning, Kyuubs.
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Religion of peace.

Cacciato posted...

I'm gonna guess that you have Icoyar on ignore.

Doesn't everybody?
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Remember only 20 years ago when such acts were blamed on gangland violence?
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DorkLink posted...

There could be a day when their recruiting/coercing members isn't effective anymore. Even if the ideology doesn't die, it still needs people to sustain it. They're not a factory that magically pumps out terrorists. We already have been fighting them for a long time, and if you think that carpet bombing is the only way to prevent them from spreading to the entire world, you're, as has already been said, fucking delusional.


Also are you aware of how many of them operate (literally) underground? I'm assuming they have some significantly fortified bunkers, so I'm not sure where you get the idea that bombing everything is even a guarantee to wipe them out.

To be fair, he's not entirely wrong to the extent that if you basically wipe out an entire country there wouldn't be anything to draw from. Granted, that would be war crime on top of war crime, but it would wipe out ISIS because they'd have no infrastructure or people to draw new members from in that area (although they could try drawing from other nations)

Lokarin posted...

Remember only 20 years ago when such acts were blamed on gangland violence?

Gangs didn't blow things up or drive vans into crowds to make a statement. And if you thought this kind of thing was blamed on gangs 20 years ago, you weren't around 20 years ago.
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Ogurisama posted...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/europe/london-bridge-incident/index.html

Ctrl+F:
-Islam no results found
-Muslim no results found

Well I guess if CNN says it wasnt Isis then it wasnt.

20 bucks its a Muslim terrorist
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deoxxys posted...

Ogurisama posted...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/europe/london-bridge-incident/index.html

Ctrl+F:
-Islam no results found
-Muslim no results found

Well I guess if CNN says it wasnt Isis then it wasnt.

20 bucks its a Muslim terrorist

That link specifically says it wasn't IS?
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Sarcasthma posted...

deoxxys posted...

Ogurisama posted...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/03/europe/london-bridge-incident/index.html

Ctrl+F:
-Islam no results found
-Muslim no results found

Well I guess if CNN says it wasnt Isis then it wasnt.

20 bucks its a Muslim terrorist

That link specifically says it wasn't IS?

It refuses to acknowledge
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deoxxys posted...

It refuses to acknowledge

Okay, guy.
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Sarcasthma posted...

deoxxys posted...

It refuses to acknowledge

Okay, guy.

Why wont they tell us who they were then? Who are they protecting?
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deoxxys posted...

Sarcasthma posted...

deoxxys posted...

It refuses to acknowledge

Okay, guy.

Why wont they tell us who they were then huh?

Maybe they don't know yet. Have any other news agencies reported that the suspects have been identified?
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Sarcasthma posted...

Maybe they don't know yet. Have any other news agencies reported that the suspects have been identified?

There are supposedly eye witness reports of one of the knife wielders screaming, "This is for Allah".

Doesn't necessarily make it an ISIS attack, but, I mean. Come on.
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I wonder if Kyuubi learned about political strategy from his years of playing airsoft.

Cacciato posted...

I wonder if Kyuubi learned

Doesn't seem like it
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Cacciato posted...

I wonder if Kyuubi learned about political strategy from his years of playing airsoft.

No he read it on various forums and magazines. He's an expert in counter-terrorism now. Not unlike his firearm knowledge.
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Zeus posted...

although they could try drawing from other nations

almost like they're already doing already

:/
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