Poll of the Day > could Sodom and Gommorah have been destroyed by nuclear weapons?

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Could the explosion have left chemical or radiation imprints? Physical evidence such as cratering, vitrification, and baking will likely be observed but they wouldn't be conclusive.

Have there been any studies at the sites of Sodom and Gommorah?

It's possible that the stories in the Bible are stories of ancient aliens
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Philoktetes posted...

I don't think so, Tim.

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Anything made up can be anything. Just believe!
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Anything made up can be anything. Just believe!

Doubt your doubt before you doubt your faith.
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Bugmeat posted...

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Anything made up can be anything. Just believe!

Doubt your doubt before you doubt your faith.

Faith: when brainwashing is more important than evidence!
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Lol. Fucking adults still living their lives based on a bronze age fairy tale.
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TES_Nut posted...

Lol. Fucking adults still living their lives based on a bronze age fairy tale.

/tips fedora
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Actually, we recently found out that Moses parted the red seas with a beyblade. And I think there's increasing evidence that another beyblade was the one that ruined those two cities
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Philoktetes posted...

TES_Nut posted...

Lol. Fucking adults still living their lives based on a bronze age fairy tale.

/tips fedora

It's a porkpie, actually.
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My great grandmother watches Ancient Aliens and religious shows. This sounds like one of her mash ups.
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Philoktetes posted...

Could the explosion have left chemical or radiation imprints? Physical evidence such as cratering, vitrification, and baking will likely be observed but they wouldn't be conclusive.

Have there been any studies at the sites of Sodom and Gommorah?

It's possible that the stories in the Bible are stories of ancient aliens

they are just stories so believe what you want
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Nobody seems to know where they were, which makes research a tad difficult.

Any science advanced enough will seem like magic and would be seen as divine by Bronze Age people.
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Actually it was sin of the cities that destroyed them!
But More likely it was a meteor or astroid explosion that destroyed the cities.
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RFC22 posted...

Actually it was sin of the cities that destroyed them!
But More likely it was a meteor or astroid explosion that destroyed the cities.

I always imagined it was some people having a orgy with a donkey or two then one of the donkeys kicks a lantern over, starting a fire and the second freaks out and runs through town with someone on his dick dragging someone else who is on fire and through crazy hijinx the city just ingulfs itself in flames while some dude in a alley is getting a BJ from another dude while puting a sword to his throat and fingering a chicken. While someone right next to him is getting robbed and stabbed to death. Multiple greedy bastards decide this is the best time to go looting and spread the fire even more. Just pretty much their sin blinds them to what is really happening while the whole town burns to the ground.....twice >_>
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Sin is a man-made myth used to scare the masses into submission.
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Philoktetes posted...

Could the explosion have left chemical or radiation imprints? Physical evidence such as cratering, vitrification, and baking will likely be observed but they wouldn't be conclusive.

Have there been any studies at the sites of Sodom and Gommorah?

It's possible that the stories in the Bible are stories of ancient aliens

Every time I hear the narration on that show, my instinctive reply is:

"Could every single person involved with the creation and production of Ancient Aliens be a pedophile? Is it possible that most of them are convicted dog-fuckers? Some expects almost certainly believe this to be true."

I loathe how literally every concept they attempt to convey is built almost entirely on weasel words, and that they cannot go for more than 30 seconds without resorting to ambiguous implication-laced phrasing.

"Is this thing possible? Sure, almost anything is possible, even infinitesimally-unlikely things. But by phasing it this way, we are very clearly leading you into a deliberate mode of thinking, while simultaneously covering our own asses and not actually claiming anything at all. It's not our fault if you just heard our incredibly leading questions and jumped to the conclusions we wanted you to! And we don't actually have to have any proof of anything if all we're doing is 'asking' questions!"

I actually have far more respect for religion, because even if all religion is bullshit, at least they actually have the balls to take a stand and say, yes, this is absolutely how things are, and fuck you if you say otherwise.


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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Philoktetes posted...

Could the explosion have left chemical or radiation imprints? Physical evidence such as cratering, vitrification, and baking will likely be observed but they wouldn't be conclusive.

Have there been any studies at the sites of Sodom and Gommorah?

It's possible that the stories in the Bible are stories of ancient aliens

Every time I hear the narration on that show, my instinctive reply is:

"Could every single person involved with the creation and production of Ancient Aliens be a pedophile? Is it possible that most of them are convicted dog-fuckers? Some expects almost certainly believe this to be true."

I loathe how literally every concept they attempt to convey is built almost entirely on weasel words, and that they cannot go for more than 30 seconds without resorting to ambiguous implication-laced phrasing.

"Is this thing possible? Sure, almost anything is possible, even infinitesimally-unlikely things. But by phasing it this way, we are very clearly leading you into a deliberate mode of thinking, while simultaneously covering our own asses and not actually claiming anything at all. It's not our fault if you just heard our incredibly leading questions and jumped to the conclusions we wanted you to! And we don't actually have to have any proof of anything if all we're doing is 'asking' questions!"

I actually have far more respect for religion, because even if all religion is bullshit, at least they actually have the balls to take a stand and say, yes, this is absolutely how things are, and fuck you if you say otherwise.

No, it's how they want you to think things are and not to question them even when the evidence says otherwise. Religion preys on the ignorant and foolish, and I have no respect for that.
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RFC22 posted...

Actually it was sin of the cities that destroyed them!
But More likely it was a meteor or astroid explosion that destroyed the cities.

Actually they never existed. It's just a story.
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iirc they never actually existed

and if they did, then the fire and brimstone is likely from a volcano.
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lol religion
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How would a nuclear blast have turned Lot's wife into a "pillar of salt" just because she turned around and looked back at the city? I mean, is the implication that you can survive a nuclear blast if you just turn your eyes away?

It's just a fairytale. You might as well ask if gingerbread really is a viable building material for houses, or if the Wicked Queen's magic mirror in Snow White was actually a TV screen.
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Funkdamental posted...

How would a nuclear blast have turned Lot's wife into a "pillar of salt" just because she turned around and looked back at the city? I mean, is the implication that you can survive a nuclear blast if you just turn your eyes away?

It's just a fairytale. You might as well ask if gingerbread really is a viable building material for houses, or if the Wicked Queen's magic mirror in Snow White was actually a TV screen.

I'm just waiting on my Hogwart's letter tbh.
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no it was probably destroyed by Gnostic magic who didn't know what they where doing. Or they did know what they where doing.

That's why Kabbalah magic is so much better.


Now our society is based of Hermetica magic.
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It's been recently discovered (I dfon't have the link) that Sodom and Gommorah probably did not even exist, instead they were part of a greater metropolis.
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Funkdamental posted...

How would a nuclear blast have turned Lot's wife into a "pillar of salt" just because she turned around and looked back at the city? I mean, is the implication that you can survive a nuclear blast if you just turn your eyes away?

They were leaving in a trench system, and she left it to get a last look just as when the nuke went off?

Anyway, old Hindu mythology got big wars with detailed descriptions that sounds like airplanes dropping nukes, and they have found remains of ancient towns that got an extremely high dose of radioactive, like Mohen Jodaro.
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myghostisdead posted...

My great grandmother watches Ancient Aliens and religious shows. This sounds like one of her mash ups.

I'm fairly certain they floated this theory on an episode of Ancient Aliens.

The topic title justifies this topic's existence. It's just so fucking lulz.
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Foppe posted...

They were leaving in a trench system, and she left it to get a last look just as when the nuke went off?

Point #1: Nuclear blast doesn't turn you into a "pillar of salt", any more than it turns you into ice cream or a singing mouse.

Point #2: If you're close enough to be killed in a nuclear blast, people nearby you aren't going to be protected just because they're standing in a "trench system". (Did a lot of civil defence digging around Sodom and Gomorrah, did they? Why didn't Lot and his family shelter in a nicely convenient fallout bunker?)

Point #3: No. Just ... no.
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"pillar of salt" is just the best way ancient writers could describe what they were seeing
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Jesus did it.

jesus wasnt born yet in old testament times
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People really expect ancient people from 2000+ years ago to describe stuff that we started to learn less than 100 years ago in a scientific way?
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Philoktetes posted...

jesus wasnt born yet in old testament times

Right, it was the angry space wizard.
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With this whole holy trinity thing going on in christianity, couldnt Jesus have existed before he was born in a human body?
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Philoktetes posted...

"pillar of salt" is just the best way ancient writers could describe what they were seeing

Again, the point: the only "eyewitness" who could have seen it to describe it would have been Lot or his children, and their chances of surviving the blast to describe it would have been pretty fucking minimal -- unless, of course, Lot left his wife miles behind. (Although that's not what the story says he did.) And if he was at a safe enough distance from a zone of destruction so lethal that it radically transforms human bodies, how could he have been at the same time close enough to observe his wife turning into a "pillar of salt"? Does any of this sound even remotely plausible in the real, non-fairytale, non-movie world?

And has anyone who witnessed the effects of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings on human beings ever used terms that remotely came close to describing the bodies of victims as "pillars of salt"? I've read of people being reduced to ashes, of being reduced to scorched shadows against brickwork, but not of being literally petrified. (And why salt, specifically? Why not stone?) But hey, if anyone can produce a report that makes it seem like a convincing possibility, be my guest. Just remember that the points in my first paragraph still stand.

But the mistake here is to imagine that the question is, how we ought to interpret a particular piece of eyewitness testimony. We're dealing with a fairytale yarn that throws in a big dose of supernatural magic for literary effect, not some "eyewitness testimony". It's pointless to look for realism and rational explanations in fairytale yarns.
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