Poll of the Day > Trump: 'Add more dollars' to healthcare

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jamieyello3
05/30/17 5:59:03 PM
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/868979531641741313

Healthcare is hard. Who could have thought it'd be this hard!
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Jen0125
05/30/17 5:59:50 PM
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yes lets add more dollars
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Blighboy
05/30/17 6:00:28 PM
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What he actually meant was
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Doctor Foxx
05/30/17 6:02:55 PM
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Americans already pay the most for the least coverage

Defs throw more money at it
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RCtheWSBC
05/30/17 6:03:40 PM
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Keep your hands off my tax dollars and don't you dare cut my Medicaid!
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darkknight109
05/30/17 6:38:12 PM
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Tee hee! That's adorable that Trump thinks the Republicans will put more money towards health care!
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JOExHIGASHI
05/30/17 6:43:39 PM
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what is he trying to say?
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KevinceKostner
05/30/17 7:57:48 PM
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You know Bush and Obama both said dumb things too, and don't get me started on Clinton
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MICHALECOLE
05/30/17 7:59:34 PM
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KevinceKostner posted...
You know Bush and Obama both said dumb things too, and don't get me started on Clinton

Don't even get me started on Clinton or I'll grab her by the pussy
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DirtBasedSoap
05/30/17 9:57:05 PM
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KevinceKostner posted...
You know Bush and Obama both said dumb things too, and don't get me started on Clinton

Clinton was a fucking baller. Dude got his dick sucked in the Oval Office.
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Mead
05/30/17 9:59:03 PM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
what is he trying to say?


That he wants to do the exact opposite of what he is actually doing
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darkknight109
05/31/17 1:05:53 AM
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KevinceKostner posted...
You know Bush and Obama both said dumb things too, and don't get me started on Clinton

The thing is, most of the time when George "They misunderestimated me" Bush and Barack "57 states" Obama said things, it was often just inelegant speaking and/or a slip of the tongue - it was readily apparent what they were trying to say. Obama didn't actually think there were 57 states, Bush didn't actually think "Is our children learning?" was grammatically sound, their mouths just moved faster than their brains that day. Happens to all of us, no big deal.

The thing is, the things Trump says are actually phenomenally dumb. They're not just slips of the tongue (though he has plenty of those too, along with misspellings on Twitter), they're things like "I had the biggest electoral college victory since Reagan" which is simply wrong (and which he then followed up with a clarification - "I just meant among Republican presidents" - which was also wrong), or "Barack Obama's birth certificate is fake!". Statements like these show that actual thought went into making them, which makes them infinitely more disturbing than Bush or Obama's quotes.
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Lokarin
05/31/17 1:51:53 AM
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Y'all don't know the glory of Dan Quayle
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jedirood
05/31/17 1:58:57 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
KevinceKostner posted...
You know Bush and Obama both said dumb things too, and don't get me started on Clinton

The thing is, most of the time when George "They misunderestimated me" Bush and Barack "57 states" Obama said things, it was often just inelegant speaking and/or a slip of the tongue - it was readily apparent what they were trying to say. Obama didn't actually think there were 57 states, Bush didn't actually think "Is our children learning?" was grammatically sound, their mouths just moved faster than their brains that day. Happens to all of us, no big deal.

The thing is, the things Trump says are actually phenomenally dumb. They're not just slips of the tongue (though he has plenty of those too, along with misspellings on Twitter), they're things like "I had the biggest electoral college victory since Reagan" which is simply wrong (and which he then followed up with a clarification - "I just meant among Republican presidents" - which was also wrong), or "Barack Obama's birth certificate is fake!". Statements like these show that actual thought went into making them, which makes them infinitely more disturbing than Bush or Obama's quotes.


I expect Zeus to shut down every point you made in a vain attempt to stroke his Senpai Trump into blowing a gross, orange, cheesy load('cause he's a cheeto) on his face.

"Well, Obama did THIS, YOU COULDN'T TELL WHAT HE WAS SAYING THEN!" and blah blah blah blah
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jamieyello3
05/31/17 4:51:07 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3bXopIeLVU


I think I'm going to bump this topic every time Trump says something stupid.
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Zeus
06/01/17 12:31:13 AM
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jamieyello3 posted...
Healthcare is hard. Who could have thought it'd be this hard!


Came in here to say that.
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EclairReturns
06/01/17 12:34:45 AM
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@Zeus

jedirood posted...
shut down every point you made


Oh, so you're not going to do this.
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Zeus
06/01/17 12:42:47 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
KevinceKostner posted...
You know Bush and Obama both said dumb things too, and don't get me started on Clinton

The thing is, most of the time when George "They misunderestimated me" Bush and Barack "57 states" Obama said things, it was often just inelegant speaking and/or a slip of the tongue - it was readily apparent what they were trying to say. Obama didn't actually think there were 57 states, Bush didn't actually think "Is our children learning?" was grammatically sound, their mouths just moved faster than their brains that day. Happens to all of us, no big deal.

The thing is, the things Trump says are actually phenomenally dumb. They're not just slips of the tongue (though he has plenty of those too, along with misspellings on Twitter), they're things like "I had the biggest electoral college victory since Reagan" which is simply wrong (and which he then followed up with a clarification - "I just meant among Republican presidents" - which was also wrong), or "Barack Obama's birth certificate is fake!". Statements like these show that actual thought went into making them, which makes them infinitely more disturbing than Bush or Obama's quotes.


Barack Obama either wrote or reviewed a speech in which he claimed that it's easier for inner-city youths to get their hands on a gun than a book. Either way, actual thought went into what didn't even make sense in hyperbole. Pretending that "Wait, what?"-level remarks are in any way unique to Trump is a partisan hackery of the lowest order. Further, there's nothing inherently wrong with this statement and, more importantly, Trump heavily speaks off-the-cuff unlike many of our more recent presidents.

jedirood posted...


Oh look, Jedirube is launching into another sexually-explicit, arguably homophobic tirade yet again. Because all of his previous disgusting remarks which did nothing more than showcase his limited intellect and stunted maturity went so well in the past.
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jramirez23
06/01/17 12:45:27 AM
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lol
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jedirood
06/01/17 1:49:52 AM
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Zeus posted...
darkknight109 posted...
KevinceKostner posted...
You know Bush and Obama both said dumb things too, and don't get me started on Clinton

The thing is, most of the time when George "They misunderestimated me" Bush and Barack "57 states" Obama said things, it was often just inelegant speaking and/or a slip of the tongue - it was readily apparent what they were trying to say. Obama didn't actually think there were 57 states, Bush didn't actually think "Is our children learning?" was grammatically sound, their mouths just moved faster than their brains that day. Happens to all of us, no big deal.

The thing is, the things Trump says are actually phenomenally dumb. They're not just slips of the tongue (though he has plenty of those too, along with misspellings on Twitter), they're things like "I had the biggest electoral college victory since Reagan" which is simply wrong (and which he then followed up with a clarification - "I just meant among Republican presidents" - which was also wrong), or "Barack Obama's birth certificate is fake!". Statements like these show that actual thought went into making them, which makes them infinitely more disturbing than Bush or Obama's quotes.


Barack Obama either wrote or reviewed a speech in which he claimed that it's easier for inner-city youths to get their hands on a gun than a book. Either way, actual thought went into what didn't even make sense in hyperbole. Pretending that "Wait, what?"-level remarks are in any way unique to Trump is a partisan hackery of the lowest order. Further, there's nothing inherently wrong with this statement and, more importantly, Trump heavily speaks off-the-cuff unlike many of our more recent presidents.

jedirood posted...


Oh look, Jedirube is launching into another sexually-explicit, arguably homophobic tirade yet again. Because all of his previous disgusting remarks which did nothing more than showcase his limited intellect and stunted maturity went so well in the past.


Excuse me? How is any of what I said homophobic, and what do you mean again?

I think you're the one seeing an alternate reality.
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darkknight109
06/01/17 2:17:01 AM
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Zeus posted...
Barack Obama either wrote or reviewed a speech in which he claimed that it's easier for inner-city youths to get their hands on a gun than a book. Either way, actual thought went into what didn't even make sense in hyperbole.

How does that not make sense in hyperbole? He's saying that, thanks to the proliferation of guns and the poor state of education in inner cities, most youth grow up with far more violence than education. Is the statement hyperbole? Absolutely. Factually accurate? No. Stupid? Debatable, but could certainly be taken that way.

That said, exaggerating an actual problem as Obama did in your example is very different from giving voice to a complete fabrication, as Trump did in his birther rants. And I would be money that you could take Obama's entire eight years in office, as well as the run-up to his campaign, and you still would not be able to find as many pants-on-head idiotic quotes as Trump has generated since he first entered the presidential race two years ago.
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Zeus
06/01/17 12:59:27 PM
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jedirood posted...
Zeus posted...
darkknight109 posted...
KevinceKostner posted...
You know Bush and Obama both said dumb things too, and don't get me started on Clinton

The thing is, most of the time when George "They misunderestimated me" Bush and Barack "57 states" Obama said things, it was often just inelegant speaking and/or a slip of the tongue - it was readily apparent what they were trying to say. Obama didn't actually think there were 57 states, Bush didn't actually think "Is our children learning?" was grammatically sound, their mouths just moved faster than their brains that day. Happens to all of us, no big deal.

The thing is, the things Trump says are actually phenomenally dumb. They're not just slips of the tongue (though he has plenty of those too, along with misspellings on Twitter), they're things like "I had the biggest electoral college victory since Reagan" which is simply wrong (and which he then followed up with a clarification - "I just meant among Republican presidents" - which was also wrong), or "Barack Obama's birth certificate is fake!". Statements like these show that actual thought went into making them, which makes them infinitely more disturbing than Bush or Obama's quotes.


Barack Obama either wrote or reviewed a speech in which he claimed that it's easier for inner-city youths to get their hands on a gun than a book. Either way, actual thought went into what didn't even make sense in hyperbole. Pretending that "Wait, what?"-level remarks are in any way unique to Trump is a partisan hackery of the lowest order. Further, there's nothing inherently wrong with this statement and, more importantly, Trump heavily speaks off-the-cuff unlike many of our more recent presidents.

jedirood posted...


Oh look, Jedirube is launching into another sexually-explicit, arguably homophobic tirade yet again. Because all of his previous disgusting remarks which did nothing more than showcase his limited intellect and stunted maturity went so well in the past.


Excuse me? How is any of what I said homophobic, and what do you mean again?

I think you're the one seeing an alternate reality.


Because you're using gay acts as an insult although, given your hate-boner for Trump, you may just be describing your deepest fantasy so maybe that homophobia is rooted in your own deep-seated desire which is too taboo for you to name. Either way, get counseling.

And, for additional reading:
https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/5/2/15515066/stephen-colbert-trump-putin-homophobia-late-show
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals/
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Blighboy
06/01/17 1:02:58 PM
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Putin and Pence in particular must be outraged at the suffering of gays due to Colbert's comments.
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Zeus
06/01/17 1:11:46 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
Zeus posted...
Barack Obama either wrote or reviewed a speech in which he claimed that it's easier for inner-city youths to get their hands on a gun than a book. Either way, actual thought went into what didn't even make sense in hyperbole.

How does that not make sense in hyperbole? He's saying that, thanks to the proliferation of guns and the poor state of education in inner cities, most youth grow up with far more violence than education. Is the statement hyperbole? Absolutely. Factually accurate? No. Stupid? Debatable, but could certainly be taken that way.

That said, exaggerating an actual problem as Obama did in your example is very different from giving voice to a complete fabrication, as Trump did in his birther rants. And I would be money that you could take Obama's entire eight years in office, as well as the run-up to his campaign, and you still would not be able to find as many pants-on-head idiotic quotes as Trump has generated since he first entered the presidential race two years ago.


First, I guess you missed the reception that comment got:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/14/barack-obama/barack-obama-offers-flawed-comparison-between-teen/

Even the far-left-leaning WaPo criticized the claim:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/07/14/obamas-strange-claim-that-it-is-easier-for-teens-to-buy-a-glock-than-get-a-book/

It fails as hyperbole because the exaggeration bears no resemblance to the truth. It's just an odd, stupid thing to say. It's a complete fabrication. As for the Birther movement, you forget that Obama himself was responsible for distributing material in college which claimed he was born in Kenya which, by the way, makes him the very first Birther.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/booklet.asp

Before you claim he might have been mixed up on where he was born (as Obama says, "a lot of people don't know which hospital has their birth certificate") or the publication made a mistake, it seems like it was a rather deliberate lie to make him look more special for the purposes of self-promotion. After all, he would have proofed that material first -- assuming he didn't write it -- and it's very hard for them to make a mistake like that. All the same, it was nice of the publicist to fall on the sword for her client the way that publicists so often do.

More so, Obama very frequently lied to or otherwise deceived the American people. He also made a lot of "fun" exaggerations, like comparing his bowling to the Special Olympics which just went over sooooo well with the handicapped.
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Zeus
06/01/17 1:13:12 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Putin and Pence in particular must be outraged at the suffering of gays due to Colbert's comments.


When you have gay people criticizing something you said about Pence, you know you've done wrong.
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jamieyello3
06/01/17 1:15:15 PM
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Zeus posted...
When you have gay people criticizing something you said about Pence, you know you've done wrong.

Colbert made a joke about Putin and Trump being butt buddies. I guess you're saying this is homophobic?
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Zeus
06/01/17 1:16:19 PM
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jamieyello3 posted...
Zeus posted...
When you have gay people criticizing something you said about Pence, you know you've done wrong.

Colbert made a joke about Putin and Trump being butt buddies. I guess you're saying this is homophobic?


It's almost like you can't read, but once again I've post how Vox -- among others -- says it's homophobic. Keeping in mind that Vox sits firmly on the far-left and is usually a Colbert-ally. When your close allies say shit like that, you've done wrong.
https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/5/2/15515066/stephen-colbert-trump-putin-homophobia-late-show
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jamieyello3
06/01/17 1:21:48 PM
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Well it's not homophobic, at least not to people who don't think literally everything is homophobic. Making a Joke about Kanye West eating out Hillary Clinton would have the same effect if it made sense in the context, that's not "heterophobic".

The 'far left' consists of the worst people on the planet, and they constantly say stuff like this, so that's irrelevant. Far left != moderate liberals closest ally, not even close.
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Peterass
06/01/17 1:24:39 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
Clinton was a fucking baller. Dude got his dick sucked in the Oval Office.


I'd be willing to bet he's not the only one. He just got caught!
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jedirood
06/01/17 1:28:20 PM
#30:


I'm not going to torture my brain cells any further by dignifing Zeus's blatant lies with a response. He wants to think I'm homophobic? Fine. At the end of the day, I know I'm not, and that he's a troll, and frankly I don't care anymore.
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FourthDimension
06/01/17 1:28:52 PM
#31:


Colbert wasn't mocking the president for being gay. He was mocking him for being a whore.
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Zeus
06/01/17 1:36:02 PM
#32:


jamieyello3 posted...
Well it's not homophobic, at least not to people who don't think literally everything is homophobic. Making a Joke about Kanye West eating out Hillary Clinton would have the same effect if it made sense in the context, that's not "heterophobic".

The 'far left' consists of the worst people on the planet, and they constantly say stuff like this, so that's irrelevant. Far left != moderate liberals closest ally, not even close.


Colbert isn't a moderate liberal. He consistently panders to far-left SJWs, they're part of his core demo.

Peterass posted...
DirtBasedSoap posted...
Clinton was a fucking baller. Dude got his dick sucked in the Oval Office.


I'd be willing to bet he's not the only one. He just got caught!


Pretty much.

jedirood posted...
I'm not going to torture my brain cells any further by dignifing Zeus's blatant lies with a response. He wants to think I'm homophobic? Fine. At the end of the day, I know I'm not, and that he's a troll, and frankly I don't care anymore.


tbh, every time you post it's just a countdown until you say something homophobic. You might have been able to pretend that this is some isolated incident if you didn't do it so fucking often. You're just lucky that the mods on this site hate gays as much as you do, since otherwise you'd be banned by now.

FourthDimension posted...
Colbert wasn't mocking the president for being gay. He was mocking him for being a whore.


...by using homosexuality as an insult, which is literally the issue that LBGT groups had.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/05/03/just-because-you-support-gay-rights-doesnt-mean-you-get-to-make-gay-jokes/

See? Even WaPo presented this and WaPo loves Colbert.
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FourthDimension
06/01/17 1:41:39 PM
#33:


That implies that Trump enjoyed the act and was more than just an exchange of goods and services.

Zeus posted...
See? Even WaPo presented this and WaPo loves Colbert.

You keep saying that like it's supposed to give it more validity. You have that much faith in what WaPo has to say?
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jedirood
06/01/17 1:47:02 PM
#34:


Again, that wasn't homophobic. It was an insult towards your insane obsession with Trump.

You gonna call me sexist for not liking Hillary next? Any other worthless claims you wanna make about me?

You've really gone off the deep end at this point
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Zeus
06/01/17 1:47:15 PM
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FourthDimension posted...
That implies that Trump enjoyed the act and was more than just an exchange of goods and services.

Zeus posted...
See? Even WaPo presented this and WaPo loves Colbert.

You keep saying that like it's supposed to give it more validity. You have that much faith in what WaPo has to say?


I tend to take this more seriously when a source argues against its usual biases. It would be like Fox News saying Obama was right about something. When a source either for or against a person takes the opposite stance over an issue, it's worth noting.
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jamieyello3
06/01/17 2:58:31 PM
#36:


If you like Trump so much why don't you marry him?

Oh, sorry, homophobic.
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jedirood
06/01/17 3:02:57 PM
#37:


jamieyello3 posted...
If you like Trump so much why don't you marry him?

Oh, sorry, homophobic.


Apparently it is, in his eyes.
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Zeus
06/01/17 4:14:20 PM
#38:


jedirood posted...
Again, that wasn't homophobic. It was an insult towards your insane obsession with Trump.

You gonna call me sexist for not liking Hillary next? Any other worthless claims you wanna make about me?

You've really gone off the deep end at this point


>Makes repeated homophobic insults
>Pretends he's not homophobic

seh6p


Because, again, this certainly isn't the first time you've made homophobic remarks and it certainly won't be the last. Also bearing in mind that you claim to side with SJWs on a lot of issues. Meanwhile I'm anti-SJW, anti-PC, and even I don't use homosexuality as an insult.
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jedirood
06/01/17 4:28:03 PM
#39:


Please, show me these homophobic remarks. I'll wait while you look for something that doesn't exist.
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ClarkDuke
06/01/17 7:58:18 PM
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Zeus posted...
Meanwhile I'm anti-SJW, anti-PC, and even I don't use homosexuality as an insult.

You've claimed on many occasions that a quite few users were mentally inadequate, in debates. A tactic not known as a sign of mental prowess, but a common fallback to avoid truthfully examining the juxtaposition you argue.
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Zeus
06/01/17 10:35:12 PM
#41:


jedirood posted...
Please, show me these homophobic remarks. I'll wait while you look for something that doesn't exist.


So now you're pretending that you haven't made similar remarks on multiple occasions by asking me to look for an archiver to show you did exactly what we both know you did? Your low-rent trolling just gets worse and worse. We both know that this wasn't the first time you've done it and we know it's just a countdown until you do it again. Maybe you can get together with Mike Pence and Ted Cruz for a barbecue and discuss how much you all hate gays. However, I'm sure even the two of them would back away from you once you got really going.
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jedirood
06/01/17 11:48:43 PM
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I have never said anything remotely homophobic. I have never claimed to support SJWs. You're pulling shit out of your ass. If you're gonna lie about me, have some proof that supports it in some way.
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Zeus
06/02/17 4:13:54 AM
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jedirood posted...
I have never said anything remotely homophobic.


Your post in this topic contradicts it, as do similar posts you've made in the past.

jedirood posted...
I have never claimed to support SJWs. You're pulling shit out of your ass. If you're gonna lie about me, have some proof that supports it in some way.


You've sided with SJWs on many issues, including knee-jerk reactions to the president. But if you want to pretend that you hate SJWs now, whatever. You've already demonstrated that you're homophobic so you're building a good case.
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jedirood
06/02/17 4:17:08 AM
#44:


Whatever. You wanna believe your own lies, so be it. You are literally the only person who took my post as Anti-gay. It was an insult towards you. You wanna spin it different ways in your bullshit argument, go right ahead.

You obviously aren't right in the head
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KevinceKostner
06/02/17 9:43:08 AM
#45:


Man Zeus can't argue so he keeps shouting homophobic, sounds like an SJW
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Dfy556
06/02/17 10:06:31 AM
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TheSlinja
06/02/17 11:53:30 AM
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At first the whole Zeus slowly riding trump harder and harder thing was pretty funny but at this point its starting to get a little sad
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