Poll of the Day > I dont understand the military worship in America.

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It is a job. A dangerous job, but a job nonetheless. That doesnt make you some sort of hero.
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Are you saying you don't support the troops!?!

KevinceKostner posted...

Are you saying you don't support the troops!?!

Well, they certainly shouldnt get restaurant discounts.
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Nobody worships the military, you're exaggerating. We get discounts sometimes and people say thanks, that's all.
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CountessRolab posted...

Well, they certainly shouldnt get restaurant discounts.

Why?
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Veedrock- posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Well, they certainly shouldnt get restaurant discounts.

Why?

For the same reason a plumber shouldnt get a restaurant discount.
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Don't worry Balor it's probably best you don't understand. After all thinking can be hard.
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Lord Balor? We should call you Shah Baadhir.
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Blighboy posted...

Lord Balor? We should call you Shah Baadhir.

Call me DJ Shah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSJ_2miUMNg
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CountessRolab posted...

Veedrock- posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Well, they certainly shouldnt get restaurant discounts.

Why?

For the same reason a plumber shouldnt get a restaurant discount.

That doesn't make sense.
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CountessRolab posted...

Veedrock- posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Well, they certainly shouldnt get restaurant discounts.

Why?

For the same reason a plumber shouldnt get a restaurant discount.

How many times has a plumber gotten shot at or killed trying to defend our country?
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SusanGreenEyes posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Veedrock- posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Well, they certainly shouldnt get restaurant discounts.

Why?

For the same reason a plumber shouldnt get a restaurant discount.

How many times has a plumber gotten shot at or killed trying to defend our country?

3 times.
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SusanGreenEyes posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Veedrock- posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Well, they certainly shouldnt get restaurant discounts.

Why?

For the same reason a plumber shouldnt get a restaurant discount.

How many times has a plumber gotten shot at or killed trying to defend our country?

0 because they always get the power star.
I take it back, plumbers should get discounts, military personnel should not.
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A plumber fixed my sink once.

I had a taliban cell in my attic once and none of the soldiers I knew could get rid of it. Had to call the exterminator.
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CountessRolab posted...

It is a job. A dangerous job, but a job nonetheless. That doesnt make you some sort of hero.

CountessRolab posted...

SusanGreenEyes posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Veedrock- posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Well, they certainly shouldnt get restaurant discounts.

Why?

For the same reason a plumber shouldnt get a restaurant discount.

How many times has a plumber gotten shot at or killed trying to defend our country?

0 because they always get the power star.
I take it back, plumbers should get discounts, military personnel should not.

http://orig00.deviantart.net/d5db/f/2012/027/3/b/you__s_trollin__by_kylekiller-d4nu7pr.jpg

WastelandCowboy posted...

CountessRolab posted...

It is a job. A dangerous job, but a job nonetheless. That doesnt make you some sort of hero.

CountessRolab posted...

SusanGreenEyes posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Veedrock- posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Well, they certainly shouldnt get restaurant discounts.

Why?

For the same reason a plumber shouldnt get a restaurant discount.

How many times has a plumber gotten shot at or killed trying to defend our country?

0 because they always get the power star.
I take it back, plumbers should get discounts, military personnel should not.

http://orig00.deviantart.net/d5db/f/2012/027/3/b/you__s_trollin__by_kylekiller-d4nu7pr.jpg

First post was real, second post was a troll.
Military personnel are not heroes simply for being in the military.
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What worship? It's more than just a job. Working at McDonald's doesn't put your life in danger for the security of our nation.
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SusanGreenEyes posted...

How many times has a plumber gotten shot at or killed trying to defend our country?

Who are the soldiers defending this country from?

There really is no worship though, it's true that some businesses offer discounts but that really isn't any different form other similar business strategies.

nobody but extreme diehard Patriots worship the military.
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SusanGreenEyes posted...

defend our country?

lol

CountessRolab posted...

SusanGreenEyes posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Veedrock- posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Well, they certainly shouldnt get restaurant discounts.

Why?

For the same reason a plumber shouldnt get a restaurant discount.

How many times has a plumber gotten shot at or killed trying to defend our country?

0 because they always get the power star.
I take it back, plumbers should get discounts, military personnel should not.

This is the weirdest bait I've seen in a while, but points for originality... nah, I take that back. Wouldn't wanna make it seem like I'm glorifying trolling.
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RedPixel posted...

CountessRolab posted...

SusanGreenEyes posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Veedrock- posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Well, they certainly shouldnt get restaurant discounts.

Why?

For the same reason a plumber shouldnt get a restaurant discount.

How many times has a plumber gotten shot at or killed trying to defend our country?

0 because they always get the power star.
I take it back, plumbers should get discounts, military personnel should not.

but points for originality

#BalorStyle


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Cruddy_horse posted...

There really is no worship though

I guess you don't go to many sporting events
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CountessRolab posted...

That doesnt make you some sort of hero.

They're voluntarily protecting you from being drafted. Based on everything we know of you, that should probably make them heroes in your book.

Red_Frog posted...

CountessRolab posted...

That doesnt make you some sort of hero.

They're voluntarily protecting you from being drafted. Based on everything we know of you, that should probably make them heroes in your book.

Irrelevant. If I ever got drafted, I would honestly just leave the country (Bill Clinton style).
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CountessRolab posted...

Red_Frog posted...

CountessRolab posted...

That doesnt make you some sort of hero.

They're voluntarily protecting you from being drafted. Based on everything we know of you, that should probably make them heroes in your book.

Irrelevant. If I ever got drafted, I would honestly just leave the country (Bill Clinton style).

Of course you would, I could have told you that. It would still be an inconvenience.

Guilt over treating Vietnam vets like pariahs for no reason caused a knee-jerk reversal in policy.
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I don't get it and I live here.

"I'm a fucking vet"
good for you?

"They're risking their lives to defend our country!"
They are getting paid to do a voluntary job securing oil in the middle east that involves risk of life.

"Support the troops"
I support them by wanting them to stop risking their lives in unnecessary conflict and I support them getting proper healthcare when they come home.

I think it mostly is a hang up from previous wars. world wars 1 + 2 defending us from the evil threats
korea and vietnam- defending us from communist dictatorships
vietnam - poor young men getting drafted into war to fight.
keep repeating the narratives from those wars over and over through the years and you get what we have now.
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Personally, I feel we should also be doing the same for our teachers, firefighters, and police officers. military though protects your freedoms and rights to say what you say whenever you want to say it. Without them, our country wouldn't exist.
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As a manager at a restaurant, I give people I like discounts just because I like them, hell I sometimes give random people discounts just because they were really nice
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Because some organization straw manned the fuck out of the them during the iraq war.

"You don't support the war on terrorism? Then you hate our troops!"

Even though tc is probably a troll, it's a mildly valid point. We have little to no respect for police officers yet we do overpraise the military.
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yutterh posted...

Personally, I feel we should also be doing the same for our teachers, firefighters, and police officers. military though protects your freedoms and rights to say what you say whenever you want to say it. Without them, our country wouldn't exist.

Most places that offer military discounts offer first responder and LEO discounts as well.
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slacker03150 posted...

korea and vietnam- defending us from communist dictatorships

Vietnam was nothing more than American imperialism disguised as "spreading democracy".
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CountessRolab posted...

slacker03150 posted...

korea and vietnam- defending us from communist dictatorships

Vietnam was nothing more than American imperialism disguised as "spreading democracy".

I thought it was getting north vietnam weapons incase we fight the russians. They ended up just going to war with south vietnam and fought the french. We were forced into the fight because of the french. Well i mean it is more complicated then that but that is pretty much what happened with vietnam. We set a mine for russia and blew up our allies instead.....
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CountessRolab posted...

That doesnt make you some sort of hero.

What's your definition of a hero?
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Someone in the military could be a hero. It really depends on the individual. Some of them just did a job for a few years though, and some of them are assholes. Like any other group, it depends.
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Propaganda, obviously. Americans are told that it's self-defense, and if we let them the bad people are gonna take our freedom.
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CountessRolab posted...

Military personnel are not heroes simply for being in the military.

Mead posted...

Someone in the military could be a hero. It really depends on the individual. Some of them just did a job for a few years though, and some of them are assholes. Like any other group, it depends.

^ All of this.

Cacciato posted...

SusanGreenEyes posted...

defend our country?

lol

^ and this.
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I thought this topic was going to be about military spending because that's something that I still don't understand why America spends as much as it does on the military.
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The position certainly have some potential risk and I have respect to the men and women who willingly enter such field of work. But as a whole I wouldn't say they all enter the military for noble reasons.

For some they're doing it for the college grant, for some it is the only thing they can do after high school, for some they're only doing it because their family have a history of being in the military and they're carrying out family traditions, for some it offer some unique experiences that would be helpful in certain civilian jobs, etc, etc.

I think it really comes down to the individual person. Some aren't doing it for their country, they're doing it for themselves.
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SusanGreenEyes posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Veedrock- posted...

CountessRolab posted...

Well, they certainly shouldnt get restaurant discounts.

Why?

For the same reason a plumber shouldnt get a restaurant discount.

How many times has a plumber gotten shot at or killed trying to defend our country?

Statistically, is anyone serving in the US armed forces likely to get shot at while doing their job? The Army's a big employer; not every role is a combat one, and not every posting is in a war zone.
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Is TC 14?

OhhhJa posted...

Is TC 14?

nah, this isn't edgy, just silly thinking. It's gross seeing things like this, especially from Americans
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But seriously... most military dudes that were actually put in dangerous situations aren't the braggarts. It's always the dickwad who sat behind a computer handling emails that brings up his "service" anytime he talks to a woman.

As far as respecting military service goes, I respect it for the fact that I never wanted to serve and it keeps me from doing involuntary service. And whether you realize it or not every country needs some kind of military force in order to preserve itself. Maybe it's not always, or even mostly, used for self defense but it's still necessary at least for that purpose.

If not for ours and other military forces we'd be potentially living under a global dictatorship where you're forced to serve or be executed

OhhhJa posted...

And whether you realize it or not every country needs some kind of military force in order to preserve itself.

Some are prepared to take the risk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_without_armed_forces#Countries_without_armed_forces

I'd point out, by the way, that there are more than a few places where civilians feel themselves just as much at risk from their own country's armed forces than from other countries'. Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to trust their government's security forces.
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Funkdamental posted...

OhhhJa posted...

And whether you realize it or not every country needs some kind of military force in order to preserve itself.

Some are prepared to take the risk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_without_armed_forces#Countries_without_armed_forces

I'd point out, by the way, that there are more than a few places where civilians feel themselves just as much at risk from their own country's armed forces than from other countries'. Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to trust their government's security forces.

From a statistical (and factual) standpoint, conflict has been more deadly for civilians for some time now. You are much less likely to die in war as a combatant than an innocent civilian caught in the crossfire.

support the troops, not the people sending these kids into meat grinders
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Funkdamental posted...

OhhhJa posted...

And whether you realize it or not every country needs some kind of military force in order to preserve itself.

Some are prepared to take the risk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_without_armed_forces#Countries_without_armed_forces

I'd point out, by the way, that there are more than a few places where civilians feel themselves just as much at risk from their own country's armed forces than from other countries'. Not everyone is lucky enough to be able to trust their government's security forces.

These countries are only able to stand as is bc of neighboring countries/allies that would intervene if a country decided to invade. So still the point stands that it's necessary

Zeus posted...

What worship? It's more than just a job. Working at McDonald's doesn't put your life in danger for the security of our nation.

You aren't risking anything just sitting in a base. Just being Military doesn't mean you deserve anything.

Now, you're actually being shot at, that's a different story. Being in the Military shouldn't make you a hero by default
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CountessRolab posted...

It is a job. A dangerous job, but a job nonetheless. That doesnt make you some sort of hero.

I can understand being respectful to those who fought in a war to protect their country but these days it seems the Army is fighting wars that really doesn't concern them and in that case I don't understand. Of course by sticking their nose in where it doesn't belong they are in turn increasing the chance of their country being involved in another major war such as World War 3.
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