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Samurontai 05/11/17 3:11:08 PM #201:	meingott posted... Also lmao at how Samurontai says that the decreased sensitivity is a negligible amount due to how little the sensitivity decreases...yet then argues that the penile cancer is a medical benefit even though there's virtually 0 difference. IE the penile cancer thing is literally negligible yet he still argues for it It's not negligible, as it literally helps prevent things such as HPV which is found in a lot of penile cancers. --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:878907992] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>Also lmao at how Samurontai says that the decreased sensitivity is a negligible amount due to how little the sensitivity decreases...yet then argues that the penile cancer is a medical benefit even though there's virtually 0 difference. IE the penile cancer thing is literally negligible yet he still argues for it</quote> It's not negligible, as it literally helps prevent things such as HPV which is found in a lot of penile cancers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Samurontai 05/11/17 3:12:43 PM #203:	smoke_break posted... Asherlee10 posted... In the U.S., there are apparently many women that prefer circumcised penises. This could play a role in self-esteem and sexual confidence. lol, let a man publicly say he has a preference about a woman's genitals imagine the outrage What do you mean exactly? --- http://i.imgur.com/Scl5rwX.gif http://i.imgur.com/Fjgt7Qq.gif http://i.imgur.com/NidhAni.gif http://i.imgur.com/IGIbQPk.gif <cite>Samurontai posted [p:878908086] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>smoke_break posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote> In the U.S., there are apparently many women that prefer circumcised penises. This could play a role in self-esteem and sexual confidence.</quote> lol, let a man publicly say he has a preference about a woman's genitals imagine the outrage</quote> What do you mean exactly?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meingott 05/11/17 3:18:17 PM #205:	Hadoken92 posted... This is just a review opinion article by mostly non-pediatricians on an evidence-based medical article by pediatricians. is that an appeal to authority? a handful of american pediatricians agreeing with one another is hardly evidence-based or authoritative. not to mention that all of those supposed benefits don't even materialize until the child is old enough to decide for itself if it wants to be circumcised Hadoken92 posted... All skin has nerve endings and all skin serve multiple functions, this isn't limited to the foreskin (which by itself isn't an organ, btw). I'm mostly asking about where you get the Oxytocin Absorption claim from. it doesn't matter that all skin has nerve endings. that's irrelevant. holy fuck. the point was that the foreskin serves a purpose. it's rich in nerve endings, especially for the surface area compared to other skin. it protects the glans, has a gliding function during intercourse, etc. yeah, it's not an organ - what i was getting at is that it's more than just a flap of skin. http://www.cirp.org/library/sex_function/ as for the oxytocin thing, i don't remember where i read that. not finding anything on that anymore :/ --- meingott <cite>meingott posted [p:878908431] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hadoken92 posted...</cite> <quote>This is just a review opinion article by mostly non-pediatricians on an evidence-based medical article by pediatricians. </quote> is that an appeal to authority? a handful of american pediatricians agreeing with one another is hardly evidence-based or authoritative. not to mention that all of those supposed benefits don't even materialize until the child is old enough to decide for itself if it wants to be circumcised <cite>Hadoken92 posted...</cite> <quote>All skin has nerve endings and all skin serve multiple functions, this isn't limited to the foreskin (which by itself isn't an organ, btw). I'm mostly asking about where you get the Oxytocin Absorption claim from. </quote> it doesn't matter that all skin has nerve endings. that's irrelevant. holy fuck. the point was that the foreskin serves a purpose. it's rich in nerve endings, especially for the surface area compared to other skin. it protects the glans, has a gliding function during intercourse, etc. yeah, it's not an organ - what i was getting at is that it's more than just a flap of skin. http://www.cirp.org/library/sex_function/ as for the oxytocin thing, i don't remember where i read that. not finding anything on that anymore :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 05/11/17 3:18:41 PM #206:	Asherlee10 posted... I can make a decision about a subject once I've seen research from both sides. So far, I have not. what type of research would you need in order to come to a basic conclusion about why the CDC's statement about penile cancer is stupid? --- meingott <cite>meingott posted [p:878908459] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>I can make a decision about a subject once I've seen research from both sides. So far, I have not. </quote> what type of research would you need in order to come to a basic conclusion about why the CDC's statement about penile cancer is stupid?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOnionKnight 05/11/17 3:26:08 PM #208:	Consent is not a bullshit talking point. It's the main point. Circumcision isn't like getting a vaccine. It's permanent body modification. A body part is literally chopped off. That's not an appeal to emotion. That's the procedure. It happened to me, and I would rather that it hadn't, but I didn't get a choice. Culturally, there should be zero reason to perform circumcision on children, especially infants. Medically, again in relation to children, it should be treated like a tonsillectomy: performed only to address a problem, not to prevent an as-yet nonexistent condition. Adults should be able to modify their genitals however they want. --- The owls are not what they seem. <cite>TheOnionKnight posted [p:878908924] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote>Consent is not a bullshit talking point. It's the main point. Circumcision isn't like getting a vaccine. It's permanent body modification. A body part is literally chopped off. That's not an appeal to emotion. That's the procedure. It happened to me, and I would rather that it hadn't, but I didn't get a choice. Culturally, there should be zero reason to perform circumcision on children, especially infants. Medically, again in relation to children, it should be treated like a tonsillectomy: performed only to address a problem, not to prevent an as-yet nonexistent condition. Adults should be able to modify their genitals however they want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hadoken92 05/11/17 3:27:41 PM #209:	meingott posted... Hadoken92 posted... All skin has nerve endings and all skin serve multiple functions, this isn't limited to the foreskin (which by itself isn't an organ, btw). I'm mostly asking about where you get the Oxytocin Absorption claim from. it doesn't matter that all skin has nerve endings. that's irrelevant. holy fuck. the point was that the foreskin serves a purpose. it's rich in nerve endings, especially for the surface area compared to other skin. it protects the glans, has a gliding function during intercourse, etc. yeah, it's not an organ - what i was getting at is that it's more than just a flap of skin. http://www.cirp.org/library/sex_function/ as for the oxytocin thing, i don't remember where i read that. not finding anything on that anymore :/ That website hasn't been updated since 2007 and cites laughable studies (seriously, look at the sample size of some of them). With respect to the anatomy and function, all it proves is that foreskin is skin. Congrats. And the Oxytocin thing, the reason you're not finding anything on it is because it's BS. Stop trying to post your opinions like they're facts and stop trying to support your poor opinion irrelevant things. --- To see the world, things dangerous to come to, to see behind walls, draw closer, to find each other, and to feel. That is the purpose of life. <cite>Hadoken92 posted [p:878909032] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Hadoken92 posted...</cite> <quote>All skin has nerve endings and all skin serve multiple functions, this isn't limited to the foreskin (which by itself isn't an organ, btw). I'm mostly asking about where you get the Oxytocin Absorption claim from. </quote> it doesn't matter that all skin has nerve endings. that's irrelevant. holy fuck. the point was that the foreskin serves a purpose. it's rich in nerve endings, especially for the surface area compared to other skin. it protects the glans, has a gliding function during intercourse, etc. yeah, it's not an organ - what i was getting at is that it's more than just a flap of skin. http://www.cirp.org/library/sex_function/ as for the oxytocin thing, i don't remember where i read that. not finding anything on that anymore :/</quote> That website hasn't been updated since 2007 and cites laughable studies (seriously, look at the sample size of some of them). With respect to the anatomy and function, all it proves is that foreskin is skin. Congrats. And the Oxytocin thing, the reason you're not finding anything on it is because it's BS. Stop trying to post your opinions like they're facts and stop trying to support your poor opinion irrelevant things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirkDiggles 05/11/17 3:27:51 PM #211:	5 pages of back and forth arguing about what dicks look like. Typical CE. --- http://i.imgur.com/jJ4fn99.gif http://i.imgur.com/Boxw8r4.gif <cite>DirkDiggles posted [p:878909044] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote>5 pages of back and forth arguing about what dicks look like. Typical CE.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 05/11/17 3:29:55 PM #212:	Hadoken92 posted... meingott posted... Hadoken92 posted... All skin has nerve endings and all skin serve multiple functions, this isn't limited to the foreskin (which by itself isn't an organ, btw). I'm mostly asking about where you get the Oxytocin Absorption claim from. it doesn't matter that all skin has nerve endings. that's irrelevant. holy fuck. the point was that the foreskin serves a purpose. it's rich in nerve endings, especially for the surface area compared to other skin. it protects the glans, has a gliding function during intercourse, etc. yeah, it's not an organ - what i was getting at is that it's more than just a flap of skin. http://www.cirp.org/library/sex_function/ as for the oxytocin thing, i don't remember where i read that. not finding anything on that anymore :/ That website hasn't been updated since 2007 and cites laughable studies (seriously, look at the sample size of some of them). With respect to the anatomy and function, all it proves is that foreskin is skin. Congrats. And the Oxytocin thing, the reason you're not finding anything on it is because it's BS. Stop trying to post your opinions like they're facts and stop trying to support your poor opinion irrelevant things. > "stop posting your opinions as facts and stop trying to support poor opinions" > literally handwaves away the functions of foreskin as if it's simply a flap of skin, just because it has the word "skin" in foreskin lmao --- meingott <cite>meingott posted [p:878909175] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hadoken92 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Hadoken92 posted...</cite> <quote>All skin has nerve endings and all skin serve multiple functions, this isn't limited to the foreskin (which by itself isn't an organ, btw). I'm mostly asking about where you get the Oxytocin Absorption claim from. </quote> it doesn't matter that all skin has nerve endings. that's irrelevant. holy fuck. the point was that the foreskin serves a purpose. it's rich in nerve endings, especially for the surface area compared to other skin. it protects the glans, has a gliding function during intercourse, etc. yeah, it's not an organ - what i was getting at is that it's more than just a flap of skin. http://www.cirp.org/library/sex_function/ as for the oxytocin thing, i don't remember where i read that. not finding anything on that anymore :/</quote> That website hasn't been updated since 2007 and cites laughable studies (seriously, look at the sample size of some of them). With respect to the anatomy and function, all it proves is that foreskin is skin. Congrats. And the Oxytocin thing, the reason you're not finding anything on it is because it's BS. Stop trying to post your opinions like they're facts and stop trying to support your poor opinion irrelevant things.</quote> > "stop posting your opinions as facts and stop trying to support poor opinions" > literally handwaves away the functions of foreskin as if it's simply a flap of skin, just because it has the word "skin" in foreskin lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 05/11/17 3:30:15 PM #213:	Samurontai posted... Also cutting off other body parts can actually lead to pretty severe consequences, in comparison to a mere circumcision People can DIE from circumcision and it is very painful. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:878909190] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote> Also cutting off other body parts can actually lead to pretty severe consequences, in comparison to a mere circumcision</quote> People can DIE from circumcision and it is very painful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RVallant 05/11/17 3:33:52 PM #214:	Samurontai posted... It literally lowers the chance of getting cancer in both the male and female partners... how is that not a benefit? Hrm... Prevents Cancer Another myth of circumcision is that it helps prevent penile cancer in men and cervical cancer in their female partners. This is simply not true. Abraham Wolbarst, a doctor in the early 20th century, was one of the first to hypothesize that smegma, a secretion more prevalent in uncircumcised males than circumcised males, was carcinogenic and caused cancers. This was debunked later by studies in the 1950s. Further studies found that there was no statistical difference in rates of penile cancer between circumcised and uncircumcised males. Even the American Cancer Society has categorically stated that promoting circumcision as a method of preventing cancer is not effective. In a letter to the American Academy of Pediatrics, they wrote: As representatives of the American Cancer Society, we would like to discourage the American Academy of Pediatrics from promoting routine circumcision as preventative measure for penile or cervical cancer. The American Cancer Society does not consider routine circumcision to be a valid or effective measure to prevent such cancers. Research suggesting a pattern in the circumcision status of partners of women with cervical cancer is methodologically flawed, outdated and has not been taken seriously in the medical community for decades. Likewise, research claiming a relationship between circumcision and penile cancer is inconclusive. Penile cancer is an extremely rare condition, effecting one in 200,000 men in the United States. Penile cancer rates in countries which do not practice circumcision are lower than those found in the United States. Fatalities caused by circumcision accidents may approximate the mortality rate from penile cancer. Portraying routine circumcision as an effective means of prevention distracts the public from the task of avoiding the behaviors proven to contribute to penile and cervical cancer: especially cigarette smoking and unprotected sexual relations with multiple partners. Perpetuating the mistaken belief that circumcision prevents cancer is inappropriate. Even though evidence has shown that circumcision does not reduce the risks of penile or cervical cancer, many people continue to perpetuate this myth. Literally everything you've said has been debunked since 1950's. And in fact, the only sources online that support your assertions are "Anti-circumcision people are cultists" websites, so basically anti-vaxxers. >_> There is a staggering amount of misinformation about circumcision, but the fact of the matter is, there are no health benefits to it. Period. <cite>RVallant posted [p:878909421] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>It literally lowers the chance of getting cancer in both the male and female partners... how is that not a benefit?</quote> Hrm... <quote>Prevents Cancer Another myth of circumcision is that it helps prevent penile cancer in men and cervical cancer in their female partners. This is simply not true. Abraham Wolbarst, a doctor in the early 20th century, was one of the first to hypothesize that smegma, a secretion more prevalent in uncircumcised males than circumcised males, was carcinogenic and caused cancers. This was debunked later by studies in the 1950s. Further studies found that there was no statistical difference in rates of penile cancer between circumcised and uncircumcised males. Even the American Cancer Society has categorically stated that promoting circumcision as a method of preventing cancer is not effective. In a letter to the American Academy of Pediatrics, they wrote: As representatives of the American Cancer Society, we would like to discourage the American Academy of Pediatrics from promoting routine circumcision as preventative measure for penile or cervical cancer. The American Cancer Society does not consider routine circumcision to be a valid or effective measure to prevent such cancers. Research suggesting a pattern in the circumcision status of partners of women with cervical cancer is methodologically flawed, outdated and has not been taken seriously in the medical community for decades. Likewise, research claiming a relationship between circumcision and penile cancer is inconclusive. Penile cancer is an extremely rare condition, effecting one in 200,000 men in the United States. Penile cancer rates in countries which do not practice circumcision are lower than those found in the United States. Fatalities caused by circumcision accidents may approximate the mortality rate from penile cancer. Portraying routine circumcision as an effective means of prevention distracts the public from the task of avoiding the behaviors proven to contribute to penile and cervical cancer: especially cigarette smoking and unprotected sexual relations with multiple partners. Perpetuating the mistaken belief that circumcision prevents cancer is inappropriate. Even though evidence has shown that circumcision does not reduce the risks of penile or cervical cancer, many people continue to perpetuate this myth.</quote> Literally everything you've said has been debunked since 1950's. And in fact, the only sources online that support your assertions are "Anti-circumcision people are cultists" websites, so basically anti-vaxxers. >_> There is a staggering amount of misinformation about circumcision, but the fact of the matter is, there are no health benefits to it. Period.</quote> ... 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Hadoken92 05/11/17 3:36:01 PM #215:	meingott posted... Hadoken92 posted... meingott posted... Hadoken92 posted... All skin has nerve endings and all skin serve multiple functions, this isn't limited to the foreskin (which by itself isn't an organ, btw). I'm mostly asking about where you get the Oxytocin Absorption claim from. it doesn't matter that all skin has nerve endings. that's irrelevant. holy fuck. the point was that the foreskin serves a purpose. it's rich in nerve endings, especially for the surface area compared to other skin. it protects the glans, has a gliding function during intercourse, etc. yeah, it's not an organ - what i was getting at is that it's more than just a flap of skin. http://www.cirp.org/library/sex_function/ as for the oxytocin thing, i don't remember where i read that. not finding anything on that anymore :/ That website hasn't been updated since 2007 and cites laughable studies (seriously, look at the sample size of some of them). With respect to the anatomy and function, all it proves is that foreskin is skin. Congrats. And the Oxytocin thing, the reason you're not finding anything on it is because it's BS. Stop trying to post your opinions like they're facts and stop trying to support your poor opinion irrelevant things. > "stop posting your opinions as facts and stop trying to support poor opinions" > literally handwaves away the functions of foreskin as if it's simply a flap of skin, just because it has the word "skin" in foreskin lmao That's not what I said at all. And great response to my other points. --- To see the world, things dangerous to come to, to see behind walls, draw closer, to find each other, and to feel. That is the purpose of life. <cite>Hadoken92 posted [p:878909547] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hadoken92 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Hadoken92 posted...</cite> <quote>All skin has nerve endings and all skin serve multiple functions, this isn't limited to the foreskin (which by itself isn't an organ, btw). I'm mostly asking about where you get the Oxytocin Absorption claim from. </quote> it doesn't matter that all skin has nerve endings. that's irrelevant. holy fuck. the point was that the foreskin serves a purpose. it's rich in nerve endings, especially for the surface area compared to other skin. it protects the glans, has a gliding function during intercourse, etc. yeah, it's not an organ - what i was getting at is that it's more than just a flap of skin. http://www.cirp.org/library/sex_function/ as for the oxytocin thing, i don't remember where i read that. not finding anything on that anymore :/</quote> That website hasn't been updated since 2007 and cites laughable studies (seriously, look at the sample size of some of them). With respect to the anatomy and function, all it proves is that foreskin is skin. Congrats. And the Oxytocin thing, the reason you're not finding anything on it is because it's BS. Stop trying to post your opinions like they're facts and stop trying to support your poor opinion irrelevant things.</quote> > "stop posting your opinions as facts and stop trying to support poor opinions" > literally handwaves away the functions of foreskin as if it's simply a flap of skin, just because it has the word "skin" in foreskin lmao</quote> That's not what I said at all. And great response to my other points.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeuralLaxative 05/11/17 4:08:17 PM #216:	In 2012, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) task force on circumcision of the male infant concluded that "the health benefits of newborn male circumcision outweigh the risks; furthermore, the benefits of newborn male circumcision justify access to this procedure for families who choose it. Specific benefits from male circumcision were identified for the prevention of urinary tract infections, acquisition of HIV, transmission of some sexually transmitted infections, and penile cancer. Male circumcision does not appear to adversely affect penile sexual function/sensitivity or sexual satisfaction” . Compared to their previous statement, this statement is a stronger affirmation of the health benefits of circumcision. However, the AAP did not recommend routine circumcision. They said, “Parents should weigh the health benefits and risks in light of their own religious, cultural, and personal preferences, as the medical benefits alone may not outweigh these other considerations for individual families. From an UpToDate article based on: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/130/3/585.long You don't know more than the AAP, the amount of medically misinformed discussion this board has over this topic is asinine. --- http://i.imgur.com/JW8T9kW.gif ---> http://i.imgur.com/UforGKe.gif <cite>NeuralLaxative posted [p:878911734] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote>In 2012, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) task force on circumcision of the male infant concluded that "the health benefits of newborn male circumcision outweigh the risks; furthermore, the benefits of newborn male circumcision justify access to this procedure for families who choose it. Specific benefits from male circumcision were identified for the prevention of urinary tract infections, acquisition of HIV, transmission of some sexually transmitted infections, and penile cancer. Male circumcision does not appear to adversely affect penile sexual function/sensitivity or sexual satisfaction” . Compared to their previous statement, this statement is a stronger affirmation of the health benefits of circumcision. However, the AAP did not recommend routine circumcision. They said, “Parents should weigh the health benefits and risks in light of their own religious, cultural, and personal preferences, as the medical benefits alone may not outweigh these other considerations for individual families. From an UpToDate article based on: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/130/3/585.long You don't know more than the AAP, the amount of medically misinformed discussion this board has over this topic is asinine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 05/11/17 4:10:37 PM #217:	NeuralLaxative posted... You don't know more than the AAP, the amount of medically misinformed discussion this board has over this topic is asinine. Why has the practice died down in all other Western nations ? And yet most of these places have lower rates of HIV then America. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:878911879] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeuralLaxative posted...</cite> <quote>You don't know more than the AAP, the amount of medically misinformed discussion this board has over this topic is asinine.</quote> Why has the practice died down in all other Western nations ? And yet most of these places have lower rates of HIV then America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeuralLaxative 05/11/17 4:14:54 PM #218:	cjsdowg posted... NeuralLaxative posted... You don't know more than the AAP, the amount of medically misinformed discussion this board has over this topic is asinine. Why has the practice died down in all other Western nations ? And yet most of these places have lower rates of HIV then America. That's like asking me why have vaccination rates declined across western countries despite clear health benefits; I'm not here to explain cultural trends, I'm here to report medical facts. What you choose to do with empirically based medical evidence is your prerogative. Circumcision isn't forced on parents, declining rates may have nothing to do with a physicians medical practice --- http://i.imgur.com/JW8T9kW.gif ---> http://i.imgur.com/UforGKe.gif <cite>NeuralLaxative posted [p:878912147] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeuralLaxative posted...</cite> <quote>You don't know more than the AAP, the amount of medically misinformed discussion this board has over this topic is asinine.</quote> Why has the practice died down in all other Western nations ? And yet most of these places have lower rates of HIV then America.</quote> That's like asking me why have vaccination rates declined across western countries despite clear health benefits; I'm not here to explain cultural trends, I'm here to report medical facts. What you choose to do with empirically based medical evidence is your prerogative. Circumcision isn't forced on parents, declining rates may have nothing to do with a physicians medical practice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Marmitecashews 05/11/17 4:37:40 PM #219:	Samurontai posted... Marmitecashews posted... Samurontai posted... cjsdowg posted... Samurontai posted... Male circumcision actually does have medical benefits (sometimes several) and the possibility of it being harmful to the person that it's done to is very low. All circumcision is harmful and that is about medical benefits is bull. Most other places in the West don't do like we do it in America and they have not falling out dead in the streets . Okay, but it still has medical benefits so So you wait until they are at an age where they can decide to have it done. You'd agree that we should wait to give children vaccines until the age of consent as well, correct? Vaccines aren't the same as removing a part of the body. --- Breitbart has been caught lying so many times that you might as well call it Liebart. <cite>Marmitecashews posted [p:878913560] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Marmitecashews posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote>Male circumcision actually does have medical benefits (sometimes several) and the possibility of it being harmful to the person that it's done to is very low.</quote> All circumcision is harmful and that is about medical benefits is bull. Most other places in the West don't do like we do it in America and they have not falling out dead in the streets .</quote> Okay, but it still has medical benefits so</quote> So you wait until they are at an age where they can decide to have it done.</quote> You'd agree that we should wait to give children vaccines until the age of consent as well, correct?</quote> Vaccines aren't the same as removing a part of the body.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 05/11/17 4:38:12 PM #220:	NeuralLaxative posted... That's like asking me why have vaccination rates declined across western countries despite clear health benefits; I'm not here to explain cultural trends, I'm here to report medical facts. What you choose to do with empirically based medical evidence is your prerogative. Circumcision isn't forced on parents, declining rates may have nothing to do with a physicians medical practice Cultural Trends are all that are going by. Out side of the America many medical professionals say it should not be done. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-considering-banning-circumcision-for-children-under-18s-a7459291.html https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/20/male-infant-circumcision-judge-practice --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:878913598] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeuralLaxative posted...</cite> <quote> That's like asking me why have vaccination rates declined across western countries despite clear health benefits; I'm not here to explain cultural trends, I'm here to report medical facts. What you choose to do with empirically based medical evidence is your prerogative. Circumcision isn't forced on parents, declining rates may have nothing to do with a physicians medical practice</quote> Cultural Trends are all that are going by. Out side of the America many medical professionals say it should not be done. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-considering-banning-circumcision-for-children-under-18s-a7459291.html https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/20/male-infant-circumcision-judge-practice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 05/11/17 4:40:24 PM #221:	I don't know but it needs to be. People are mutilating functional, highly sensitive tissue off of children and it's wrong. Anyone who condemns one and not the other are just as ignorant and barbaric and cruel. I wouldn't allow a doctor to take a knife to my son any more then I would my daughter. It's sickening and heart breaking and unnecessary that doctors lie about it. --- I'm a chick <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:878913739] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote>I don't know but it needs to be. People are mutilating functional, highly sensitive tissue off of children and it's wrong. Anyone who condemns one and not the other are just as ignorant and barbaric and cruel. I wouldn't allow a doctor to take a knife to my son any more then I would my daughter. It's sickening and heart breaking and unnecessary that doctors lie about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 05/11/17 4:46:27 PM #222:	Samurontai posted... FF_Redux posted... Samurontai posted... Male circumcision actually does have medical benefits (sometimes several) and the possibility of it being harmful to the person that it's done to is very low. Tell me the benefits that can't easilly be fixed (cleaning, using condoms) and aren't actual medical conditions (phimosis). Samurontai posted... But they can still get enough pleasure, whereas it removes all pleasure from females with zero benefits So much sensitive nerve endings removed, and making the glans suspectable for chafing and losing even more sensitivity, yeah... Despite what you believe, easier cleaning is a medical benefit in regards to that area. Also helps prevent tract infections, lowers the risks of getting STI's, reduces the risk of getting penile cancer (and cervical cancer in the camel partner), reduces the risks of other penile medical problems, among other things. There are plenty of medical benefits. And it doesn't matter, there's still plenty of sensitivity left No. Your wrong. The only thing that lowers the risk of STDs are safe sex practices and not having sex. The foreskin is the most sensitive part of the penis and it also protects the head. Saying that it prevents penile cancer by removing it immediately is about as effective as removing any other body part early to prevent the possibility of cancer. Women get smegma too and we're taught to clean ourselves. Sex with an intact guy is better for both them and their partner. --- I'm a chick <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:878914149] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FF_Redux posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote> Male circumcision actually does have medical benefits (sometimes several) and the possibility of it being harmful to the person that it's done to is very low.</quote> Tell me the benefits that can't easilly be fixed (cleaning, using condoms) and aren't actual medical conditions (phimosis). <cite>Samurontai posted...</cite> <quote> But they can still get enough pleasure, whereas it removes all pleasure from females with zero benefits</quote> So much sensitive nerve endings removed, and making the glans suspectable for chafing and losing even more sensitivity, yeah...</quote> Despite what you believe, easier cleaning is a medical benefit in regards to that area. Also helps prevent tract infections, lowers the risks of getting STI's, reduces the risk of getting penile cancer (and cervical cancer in the camel partner), reduces the risks of other penile medical problems, among other things. There are plenty of medical benefits. And it doesn't matter, there's still plenty of sensitivity left</quote> No. Your wrong. The only thing that lowers the risk of STDs are safe sex practices and not having sex. The foreskin is the most sensitive part of the penis and it also protects the head. Saying that it prevents penile cancer by removing it immediately is about as effective as removing any other body part early to prevent the possibility of cancer. Women get smegma too and we're taught to clean ourselves. Sex with an intact guy is better for both them and their partner.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
garan 05/11/17 4:48:35 PM #223:	Because women are precious snowflakes to be protected and men are the evil patriarchy, so fuck 'em. <cite>garan posted [p:878914310] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote>Because women are precious snowflakes to be protected and men are the evil patriarchy, so fuck 'em.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 05/11/17 4:54:30 PM #224:	FF_Redux posted... Tell me the benefits that can't easilly be fixed (cleaning, using condoms) and aren't actual medical conditions (phimosis). Many countries do not provide affordable access to clean water. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:878914716] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>FF_Redux posted...</cite> <quote>Tell me the benefits that can't easilly be fixed (cleaning, using condoms) and aren't actual medical conditions (phimosis).</quote> Many countries do not provide affordable access to clean water.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 05/11/17 4:58:46 PM #225:	lol at all the insecure dudes with creepy dicks railing against circumcision. <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:878914977] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote>lol at all the insecure dudes with creepy dicks railing against circumcision.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 05/11/17 5:04:46 PM #226:	Jerry_Hellyeah posted... lol at all the insecure dudes with creepy dicks railing against circumcision. I'm not a guy. And you don't need to be a victim of something to have sympathy for those who are, or to see that a barbaric and cruel practice is very very wrong and a violation of human rights. --- I'm a chick <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:878915317] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted...</cite> <quote>lol at all the insecure dudes with creepy dicks railing against circumcision.</quote> I'm not a guy. And you don't need to be a victim of something to have sympathy for those who are, or to see that a barbaric and cruel practice is very very wrong and a violation of human rights.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thelovefist 05/11/17 5:07:01 PM #227:	I must be on CE since this garbage tier bait topic has gotten this many posts --- N/A <cite>thelovefist posted [p:878915432] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote>I must be on CE since this garbage tier bait topic has gotten this many posts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 05/11/17 5:07:10 PM #228:	Lil_Bit83 posted... Jerry_Hellyeah posted... lol at all the insecure dudes with creepy dicks railing against circumcision. I'm not a guy. And you don't need to be a victim of something to have sympathy for those who are to see that a barbaric and cruel practice is very very wrong. Both sides try too hard when this weekly topic comes up. I can't imagine being obsessed with the condition of random men's dicks. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:878915439] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lil_Bit83 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted...</cite> <quote>lol at all the insecure dudes with creepy dicks railing against circumcision.</quote> I'm not a guy. And you don't need to be a victim of something to have sympathy for those who are to see that a barbaric and cruel practice is very very wrong.</quote>Both sides try too hard when this weekly topic comes up. I can't imagine being obsessed with the condition of random men's dicks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 05/11/17 5:07:25 PM #229:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... FF_Redux posted... Tell me the benefits that can't easilly be fixed (cleaning, using condoms) and aren't actual medical conditions (phimosis). Many countries do not provide affordable access to clean water. lmfao you're for circumcision? for all that moral outraging you do in your SJW topics, i'd have expected you to be staunchly against circumcision for any reason note that not having clean water is a problem if you're circumcised or not, so i don't see how that's a justification for infant circumcision (especially in fucking america) --- meingott <cite>meingott posted [p:878915455] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FF_Redux posted...</cite> <quote>Tell me the benefits that can't easilly be fixed (cleaning, using condoms) and aren't actual medical conditions (phimosis).</quote> Many countries do not provide affordable access to clean water.</quote> lmfao you're for circumcision? for all that moral outraging you do in your SJW topics, i'd have expected you to be staunchly against circumcision for any reason note that not having clean water is a problem if you're circumcised or not, so i don't see how that's a justification for infant circumcision (especially in fucking america)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 05/11/17 5:07:59 PM #230:	thanosibe posted... Lil_Bit83 posted... Jerry_Hellyeah posted... lol at all the insecure dudes with creepy dicks railing against circumcision. I'm not a guy. And you don't need to be a victim of something to have sympathy for those who are to see that a barbaric and cruel practice is very very wrong. Both sides try too hard when this weekly topic comes up. I can't imagine being obsessed with the condition of random men's dicks. is it also weird to you when people are obsessed with the condition of random women's circumcised genitalia? some things concern all of us, fam. thought you're smarter than this. --- meingott <cite>meingott posted [p:878915492] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lil_Bit83 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted...</cite> <quote>lol at all the insecure dudes with creepy dicks railing against circumcision.</quote> I'm not a guy. And you don't need to be a victim of something to have sympathy for those who are to see that a barbaric and cruel practice is very very wrong.</quote>Both sides try too hard when this weekly topic comes up. I can't imagine being obsessed with the condition of random men's dicks.</quote> is it also weird to you when people are obsessed with the condition of random women's circumcised genitalia? some things concern all of us, fam. thought you're smarter than this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
donkeyjack 05/11/17 5:10:56 PM #231:	Because Vagina --- FFVII isn't top 50 today LMAO. FFVI and CT are THE G.O.A.T. http://imgur.com/tyElXOs http://imgur.com/Mxpx3aN <cite>donkeyjack posted [p:878915663] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote>Because Vagina</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 05/11/17 5:12:11 PM #232:	thanosibe posted... Lil_Bit83 posted... Jerry_Hellyeah posted... lol at all the insecure dudes with creepy dicks railing against circumcision. I'm not a guy. And you don't need to be a victim of something to have sympathy for those who are to see that a barbaric and cruel practice is very very wrong. Both sides try too hard when this weekly topic comes up. I can't imagine being obsessed with the condition of random men's dicks. As opposed to being insensitive and ignorant? We here in the west don't hafta deal with the horrors of fgm. And yet plenty of people are banding together to eradicate it because we know it's wrong. I wonder where the entire human race would be today if we continued to not give a shit about anyone's problems? Certainly not a good place. --- I'm a chick <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:878915743] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lil_Bit83 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted...</cite> <quote>lol at all the insecure dudes with creepy dicks railing against circumcision.</quote> I'm not a guy. And you don't need to be a victim of something to have sympathy for those who are to see that a barbaric and cruel practice is very very wrong.</quote>Both sides try too hard when this weekly topic comes up. I can't imagine being obsessed with the condition of random men's dicks.</quote> As opposed to being insensitive and ignorant? We here in the west don't hafta deal with the horrors of fgm. And yet plenty of people are banding together to eradicate it because we know it's wrong. I wonder where the entire human race would be today if we continued to not give a shit about anyone's problems? Certainly not a good place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 05/11/17 5:15:07 PM #233:	meingott posted... lmfao you're for circumcision? for all that moral outraging you do in your SJW topics, i'd have expected you to be staunchly against circumcision for any reason No, I'm against male circumcision. But I can understand why many poorer countries, or ancient societies did it. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:878915921] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>lmfao you're for circumcision? for all that moral outraging you do in your SJW topics, i'd have expected you to be staunchly against circumcision for any reason</quote> No, I'm against male circumcision. But I can understand why many poorer countries, or ancient societies did it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 05/11/17 5:26:19 PM #234:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... meingott posted... lmfao you're for circumcision? for all that moral outraging you do in your SJW topics, i'd have expected you to be staunchly against circumcision for any reason No, I'm against male circumcision. But I can understand why many poorer countries, or ancient societies did it. they didn't do it because of dirty water, you clown. --- meingott <cite>meingott posted [p:878916601] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>lmfao you're for circumcision? for all that moral outraging you do in your SJW topics, i'd have expected you to be staunchly against circumcision for any reason</quote> No, I'm against male circumcision. But I can understand why many poorer countries, or ancient societies did it.</quote> they didn't do it because of dirty water, you clown.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 05/11/17 5:34:13 PM #235:	Female circumcision is pretty barbaric. It's either removal of the labia majora and minora or removing the clitoral hood. When it comes to penises, they're far duller and are able to function perfectly fine. It's not an apt comparison for the same reason why it's easier to get male dogs fixed than female ones. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:878917082] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote>Female circumcision is pretty barbaric. It's either removal of the labia majora and minora or removing the clitoral hood. When it comes to penises, they're far duller and are able to function perfectly fine. It's not an apt comparison for the same reason why it's easier to get male dogs fixed than female ones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 05/11/17 5:36:20 PM #236:	MutantJohn posted... Female circumcision is pretty barbaric. It's either removal of the labia majora and minora or removing the clitoral hood. When it comes to penises, they're far duller and are able to function perfectly fine. It's not an apt comparison for the same reason why it's easier to get male dogs fixed than female ones. "HODOR there's NOTHING WRONG with mutilating baby penises" --- meingott <cite>meingott posted [p:878917199] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>Female circumcision is pretty barbaric. It's either removal of the labia majora and minora or removing the clitoral hood. When it comes to penises, they're far duller and are able to function perfectly fine. It's not an apt comparison for the same reason why it's easier to get male dogs fixed than female ones.</quote> "HODOR there's NOTHING WRONG with mutilating baby penises"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 05/11/17 5:40:20 PM #237:	meingott posted... they didn't do it because of dirty water, you clown. They used religious reasons in order mask practical or political reasons. Societies have been doing this millenia. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:878917439] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>they didn't do it because of dirty water, you clown.</quote> They used religious reasons in order mask practical or political reasons. Societies have been doing this millenia.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 05/11/17 5:43:31 PM #238:	Barenziah Boy Toy posted... meingott posted... they didn't do it because of dirty water, you clown. They used religious reasons in order mask practical or political reasons. Societies have been doing this millenia. lmfao no, they literally believed that allah and yahweh commanded them to do it --- meingott <cite>meingott posted [p:878917626] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>they didn't do it because of dirty water, you clown.</quote> They used religious reasons in order mask practical or political reasons. Societies have been doing this millenia.</quote> lmfao no, they literally believed that allah and yahweh commanded them to do it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Barenziah Boy Toy 05/11/17 5:46:16 PM #239:	meingott posted... lmfao no, they literally believed that allah and yahweh commanded them to do it Yeah, there are stupid people. And that is exactly how societies used religion to try to get people to do what's good for either their leaders, or for their own good. --- You don't need a treaty to have free trade. M Rothbard {Self-Hating Token Asian of the Ivory Tower's Zionist Elite} <cite>Barenziah Boy Toy posted [p:878917781] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote>lmfao no, they literally believed that allah and yahweh commanded them to do it</quote> Yeah, there are stupid people. And that is exactly how societies used religion to try to get people to do what's good for either their leaders, or for their own good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlternativeFAQS 05/11/17 5:49:48 PM #240:	jesus christ i think proudclad is reversing in age <cite>AlternativeFAQS posted [p:878917982] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote>jesus christ i think proudclad is reversing in age</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hicks233 05/11/17 5:54:31 PM #241:	Religion. --- http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=9458 So says Mr. Stewart. <cite>Hicks233 posted [p:878918253] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote>Religion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 05/11/17 5:55:12 PM #242:	AlternativeFAQS posted... jesus christ i think proudclad is reversing in age want some nectar from my fountain of youth? --- meingott <cite>meingott posted [p:878918277] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>AlternativeFAQS posted...</cite> <quote>jesus christ i think proudclad is reversing in age</quote> want some nectar from my fountain of youth?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 05/11/17 6:27:33 PM #243:	meingott posted... Dathrowed1 posted... because they aren't near the same. another religious person pretending to have difficulty understanding the concepts, all because an ancient holy book commands circumcision A cosmetic procedure vs. Amputation of an organ that serves a purpose? Yes. The closest one gets to that is cutting off the penis or castration (well castration is worse) --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:878920062] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dathrowed1 posted...</cite> <quote>because they aren't near the same.</quote> another religious person pretending to have difficulty understanding the concepts, all because an ancient holy book commands circumcision</quote> A cosmetic procedure vs. Amputation of an organ that serves a purpose? Yes. The closest one gets to that is cutting off the penis or castration (well castration is worse)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AugustAdoulin 05/11/17 6:28:26 PM #244:	Jesus was circumcised. <cite>AugustAdoulin posted [p:878920117] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote>Jesus was circumcised.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 05/11/17 6:29:44 PM #245:	meingott posted... MutantJohn posted... Female circumcision is pretty barbaric. It's either removal of the labia majora and minora or removing the clitoral hood. When it comes to penises, they're far duller and are able to function perfectly fine. It's not an apt comparison for the same reason why it's easier to get male dogs fixed than female ones. "HODOR there's NOTHING WRONG with mutilating baby penises" Holy shit, Toast O_o --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:878920194] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>meingott posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MutantJohn posted...</cite> <quote>Female circumcision is pretty barbaric. It's either removal of the labia majora and minora or removing the clitoral hood. When it comes to penises, they're far duller and are able to function perfectly fine. It's not an apt comparison for the same reason why it's easier to get male dogs fixed than female ones.</quote> "HODOR there's NOTHING WRONG with mutilating baby penises"</quote> Holy shit, Toast O_o</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeuralLaxative 05/11/17 7:04:26 PM #246:	cjsdowg posted... NeuralLaxative posted... That's like asking me why have vaccination rates declined across western countries despite clear health benefits; I'm not here to explain cultural trends, I'm here to report medical facts. What you choose to do with empirically based medical evidence is your prerogative. Circumcision isn't forced on parents, declining rates may have nothing to do with a physicians medical practice Cultural Trends are all that are going by. Out side of the America many medical professionals say it should not be done. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-considering-banning-circumcision-for-children-under-18s-a7459291.html https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/20/male-infant-circumcision-judge-practice So let's get this straight, I post an empirically backed statement by the most respected pediatric medical society in North America, the ones responsible for creating practice guidelines that are used across the United States and beyond, who formed a legitamate task force dedicated to reviewing a large body of evidence regarding research data on circumcisions and you think that an article from a news site and something from theguardian.com refutes that data and represents official recommendations of medical professionals from other countries? Meh. You're gonna have to do better than that. Besides, the UK article states that, "The Danish Health and Medicines Authority estimates that somewhere between 1,000 and 2,000 circumcisions are performed in Denmark each year, primarily on Jewish and Muslim boys. The majority of those procedures occur outside of the public health system and are done as part of a religious ceremony in the child's home, or in a private clinic". Not the standard of care in America (though likely still happens). Personally AGAINST what I recommend as a pediatrician. If it's not a licensed physician who is signed off on performing or supervising circumcisions, I do not recommend having it done, but that's my personal practice. Take or leave the evidence bro, nothing personal. Peace --- http://i.imgur.com/JW8T9kW.gif ---> http://i.imgur.com/UforGKe.gif <cite>NeuralLaxative posted [p:878922163] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>NeuralLaxative posted...</cite> <quote> That's like asking me why have vaccination rates declined across western countries despite clear health benefits; I'm not here to explain cultural trends, I'm here to report medical facts. What you choose to do with empirically based medical evidence is your prerogative. Circumcision isn't forced on parents, declining rates may have nothing to do with a physicians medical practice</quote> Cultural Trends are all that are going by. Out side of the America many medical professionals say it should not be done. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/denmark-considering-banning-circumcision-for-children-under-18s-a7459291.html https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/20/male-infant-circumcision-judge-practice</quote> So let's get this straight, I post an empirically backed statement by the most respected pediatric medical society in North America, the ones responsible for creating practice guidelines that are used across the United States and beyond, who formed a legitamate task force dedicated to reviewing a large body of evidence regarding research data on circumcisions and you think that an article from a news site and something from theguardian.com refutes that data and represents official recommendations of medical professionals from other countries? Meh. You're gonna have to do better than that. Besides, the UK article states that, "The Danish Health and Medicines Authority estimates that somewhere between 1,000 and 2,000 circumcisions are performed in Denmark each year, primarily on Jewish and Muslim boys. The majority of those procedures occur outside of the public health system and are done as part of a religious ceremony in the child's home, or in a private clinic". Not the standard of care in America (though likely still happens). Personally AGAINST what I recommend as a pediatrician. If it's not a licensed physician who is signed off on performing or supervising circumcisions, I do not recommend having it done, but that's my personal practice. Take or leave the evidence bro, nothing personal. Peace</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
meingott 05/11/17 7:14:10 PM #247:	NeuralLaxative posted... So let's get this straight, I post an empirically backed statement by the most respected pediatric medical society in North America, the ones responsible for creating practice guidelines that are used across the United States and beyond, who formed a legitamate task force dedicated to reviewing a large body of evidence regarding research data on circumcisions and you think that an article from a news site and something from theguardian.com refutes that data and represents official recommendations of medical professionals from other countries? Meh. You're gonna have to do better than that. muh appeal to authority!!! --- meingott <cite>meingott posted [p:878922733] in Why isn't ... [t:75335170]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeuralLaxative posted...</cite> <quote>So let's get this straight, I post an empirically backed statement by the most respected pediatric medical society in North America, the ones responsible for creating practice guidelines that are used across the United States and beyond, who formed a legitamate task force dedicated to reviewing a large body of evidence regarding research data on circumcisions and you think that an article from a news site and something from theguardian.com refutes that data and represents official recommendations of medical professionals from other countries? Meh. You're gonna have to do better than that.</quote> muh appeal to authority!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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