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krazychao5
05/01/17 2:18:02 PM
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To people in this topic, and everyone in general, I'd suggest reading Flow by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi. This is based on work gathered in the field of positive psychology, compared to Freudian psychology which only focuses on the past and abnormalities. Positive psychology is working on training your conscious for better results in the future, instead of focusing on what went wrong in the past.

Helps change your mindset for the better.
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Leanaunfurled
05/01/17 2:20:53 PM
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krazychao5 posted...
To people in this topic, and everyone in general, I'd suggest reading Flow by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi. This is based on work gathered in the field of positive psychology, compared to Freudian psychology which only focuses on the past and abnormalities. Positive psychology is working on training your conscious for better results in the future, instead of focusing on what went wrong in the past.

Helps change your mindset for the better.

Thank you for the recommendation. I"ll pick it up right now, as it's only $1.99 for Kindle.
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krazychao5
05/01/17 2:38:08 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
krazychao5 posted...
To people in this topic, and everyone in general, I'd suggest reading Flow by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi. This is based on work gathered in the field of positive psychology, compared to Freudian psychology which only focuses on the past and abnormalities. Positive psychology is working on training your conscious for better results in the future, instead of focusing on what went wrong in the past.

Helps change your mindset for the better.

Thank you for the recommendation. I"ll pick it up right now, as it's only $1.99 for Kindle.

Glad to hear! I'd like to know what you think of it. So far I am about to start the fifth chapter. I have this book and two others I read weekly for class. I find this book to be a good tool for personal development, much like Covey's book 7 Habits of Highly Successful People
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Leanaunfurled
05/01/17 2:44:19 PM
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krazychao5 posted...
Glad to hear! I'd like to know what you think of it. So far I am about to start the fifth chapter. I have this book and two others I read weekly for class. I find this book to be a good tool for personal development, much like Covey's book 7 Habits of Highly Successful People

The 7 Habits one I recently added to my wishlist among other self-improvement books. I've mostly read fiction up until now, but the past month or so I've really been trying to work more on my personal development, finding out more about how I tick as well as getting past my emotional issues.

Maybe you've read some of these?
The Gifts of Imperfection
Subtle Art of Not Giving A Fuck
Quiet
30 Lessons for Living
You Are Not Your Brain
Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear
The Happiness Project
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DoctorPiranha3
05/01/17 2:45:42 PM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
I just want to remind TC that his positive posts and lack of negative posts came in like a wave shortly after he got laid. I remember this stuff >_>

Haha, I figured this was coming off a temporary high.

No offense TC, but if something like that is going to easily sway your mental state, you're bound to fall back into despair again. Trust me on that one. >_>
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krazychao5
05/01/17 2:48:59 PM
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Maybe you've read some of these?
The Gifts of Imperfection
Subtle Art of Not Giving A Fuck
Quiet
30 Lessons for Living
You Are Not Your Brain
Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear
The Happiness Project


I have not read nor heard of any of those books. Here is a list of books my professor gave for us that we may read and write about for extra credit. Most sound like positive psychology books, but at least one looks like how to structure a learning organization.

O'Connor, R. (2014). Rewire: Change your brain to break bad habits, overcome additions, conquer self-destructive behavior. New York: A Plume Book. ISBN-13: 978-0147516329

"This is an impressive book by an impressive therapist. Dr. O'Connor ... uses his many years of experience, skill and knowledge of neuroscience research to explain why we have bad habits, including addictions, and what we can do to change them. Dr. O'Connor is very honest and open about how difficult it is to change behavior, especially addictions. He explains the reasons for, mechanisms of. and methods for changing bad habits, ranging from procrastination (which one can probably deal with on his own) to severe addiction (which does usually require professional aid). His advice is excellent and places this book far above the self-help genre. Dr. O'Connor's knowledge of neuroscience is amazing. He understands the hard science behind the studies used to support and explain his book. Very well done.Something else, and most impressive of all about Dr. O'Connor, is his sympathy and compassion for all those who suffer, and his desire to help those who really, really want to change for the better."

Begley, S. (2007). Train your mind, change your brain: How a new science reveals our extraordinary potential to transform ourselves. New York: Ballantine Books. ISBN 978-0345479891.

"In this fascinating and far-reaching book, Newsweek science writer Sharon Begley reports on how cutting-edge science and the ancient wisdom of Buddhism have come together to reveal that, contrary to popular belief, we have the power to literally change our brains by changing our minds. Recent pioneering experiments in neuroplasticity - the ability of the brain to change in response to experience - reveal that the brain is capable of altering its structure and function, and even of generating new neurons, a power we retain well into old age. The brain can adapt, heal, renew itself after trauma, compensate for disabilities, rewire itself to overcome dyslexia, and break cycles of depression and OCD. And as scientists are learning from studies performed on Buddhist monks, it is not only the outside world that can change the brain, so can the mind and, in particular, focused attention through the classic Buddhist practice of mindfulness."

Doidge, N. (2007). The brain that changes itself: Stories of personal triumph from the frontiers of brain science. New York: Penguin Books. ISBN 978-0143113102.

"An astonishing new science called "neuroplasticity" is overthrowing the centuries-old notion that the human brain is immutable. In this revolutionary look at the brain, psychiatrist and psychoanalyst Norman Doidge, M.D., provides an introduction to both the brilliant scientists championing neuroplasticity and the people whose lives they've transformed. From stroke patients learning to speak again to the remarkable case of a woman born with half a brain that rewired itself to work as a whole, The Brain That Changes Itself will permanently alter the way we look at our brains, human nature, and human potential." - amazon.com

"Mind-bending, miracle-making, reality-busting stuff with implications for all human beings." --The New York Times
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krazychao5
05/01/17 2:49:07 PM
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Duhigg, Charles. (2014). The power of habit: Why we do what we do in life and business. New York: Random House Trade Paperbacks. ISBN-13: 978-0812981605

“There’s been a lot of research over the past several years about how our habits shape us, and this work is beautifully described in the new book The Power of Habit.”—David Brooks, The New York Times.

“A first-rate book—based on an impressive mass of research, written in a lively style and providing just the right balance of intellectual seriousness with practical advice on how to break our bad habits.”—The Economist.

“Duhigg argues that much of our lives is ruled by unconscious habits, good and bad, but that by becoming consciously aware of the cues that trigger our habits and the rewards they provide, we can change bad practices into good ones.”—Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

Patterson, K., & Grenny, J. (2011). Crucial conversations: Tools for talking when stakes are high. 2nd Ed. New York: McGraw-Hill Education. ISBN-13: 978-0071771320

The New York Times and Washington Post bestseller that changed the way millions communicate. “[Crucial Conversations] draws our attention to those defining moments that literally shape our lives, our relationships, and our world. . . . This book deserves to take its place as one of the key thought leadership contributions of our time.” ―from the Foreword by Stephen R. Covey, author of The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. “The quality of your life comes out of the quality of your dialogues and conversations. Here’s how to instantly uplift your crucial conversations.” ―Mark Victor Hansen, co-creator of the #1 New York Times bestselling series Chicken Soup for the Soul® series that has sold over 500 million copies worldwide.

Garvin, D. (2003). Learning in action: A guide to putting the learning organization to work. Cambridge: Harvard Business School Press.

"Garvin's new book is a tremendous achievement. The wealth of examples on how organizations and individuals can learn more effectively is truly impressive. Learning in Action will be very useful for both managers and general readers." -- Michael A. Cusumano, Distinguished Professor at the MIT Sloan School of Management
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DoctorPiranha3
05/01/17 2:54:00 PM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
DoctorPiranha3 posted...
RedWhiteBlue posted...
I just want to remind TC that his positive posts and lack of negative posts came in like a wave shortly after he got laid. I remember this stuff >_>

Haha, I figured this was coming off a temporary high.

No offense TC, but if something like that is going to easily sway your mental state, you're bound to fall back into despair again. Trust me on that one. >_>

I mean, it's lasted up to now so I think he's in great shape altogether now and for the future. Believe it or not (to everyone), sex is important to the mind. And people wanting you, showing affection (even if you don't like them sexually) is important as well. TC knows we love him and that he's got what it takes.

Lasted up to now, from how long ago? Sex helped my depression for almost s year, until I fell back to where I was before. Yeah, love and affection help, but they can only carry you so far before things start to get heavy again. Everyone's different though: maybe one dip in the pussy was the magic elixir for TC XD
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Leanaunfurled
05/01/17 2:55:35 PM
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And perhaps a temporary high is the kick someone might need to seek further help and improvement. The usual feeling of not caring about anything while under depression versus the high off...who knows, girlfriend, graduating, new job, that sort of thing. Though one mistake people make (not necessarily TC, I'm speaking in general) is to think the happiness with a partner will do away with any depression. Like you guys said, it's a band-aid. End of the day, the only person to truly help us is ourselves.

krazychao5 posted...
I have not read nor heard of any of those books. Here is a list of books my professor gave for us that we may read and write about for extra credit. Most sound like positive psychology books, but at least one looks like how to structure a learning organization.

Dude, this sounds like a great list. Thanks for taking the time out to post these.
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YookaLaylee
05/01/17 2:56:02 PM
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SGT_Conti
05/01/17 2:59:12 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
And perhaps a temporary high is the kick someone might need to seek further help and improvement. The usual feeling of not caring about anything while under depression versus the high off...who knows, girlfriend, graduating, new job, that sort of thing.

Someone on CE was the one that taught me to take advantage of those highs to create something tangible that you can look at or hold to boost yourself in your low moments. Through doing so, you slowly manage to climb yourself out of a pit and become increasingly capable of taking measures that accelerate recovery.
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DoctorPiranha3
05/01/17 3:00:35 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
And perhaps a temporary high is the kick someone might need to seek further help and improvement. The usual feeling of not caring about anything while under depression versus the high off...who knows, girlfriend, graduating, new job, that sort of thing. Though one mistake people make (not necessarily TC, I'm speaking in general) is to think the happiness with a partner will do away with any depression. Like you guys said, it's a band-aid. End of the day, the only person to truly help us is ourselves.

Not hating on highs, but they're surface-level stuff, and volatile. Overall it's better to feel higher than low, but as I mentioned in my first post, this too will pass. You know what they call the honeymoon phase being over? That doesn't apply to just love, but any kind of pleasurable high.
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krazychao5
05/01/17 3:04:08 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...


Dude, this sounds like a great list. Thanks for taking the time out to post these.


Not a problem! I just want positivity to spread on CE instead of the normal filth.

Just keep in mind that just reading one of these books will not create profound change in you. You must think of the concepts deeply and how it can and does impact you.

It is best to either take notes or to talk with someone about the things you learn! Really helps when you apply stuff you read to actually learn it.
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Leanaunfurled
05/01/17 3:07:24 PM
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SGT_Conti posted...
Someone on CE was the one that taught me to take advantage of those highs to create something tangible that you can look at or hold to boost yourself in your low moments. Through doing so, you slowly manage to climb yourself out of a pit and become increasingly capable of taking measures that accelerate recovery.

It got to the point where I legitimately view myself as two different people. When I wasn't depressed and was feeling optimistic, I've written letters to my depressed self to read for future times. Maybe it's lame, I don't know.
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WafflehouseJK
05/01/17 3:56:27 PM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
I just want to remind TC that his positive posts and lack of negative posts came in like a wave shortly after he got laid. I remember this stuff >_>

I mean, I was already doing a lot better before I got laid. Did getting laid help boost my confidence? Absolutely, but I was already on the right track before that. I wouldn't have gotten laid in the first place had I not begun thinking more positively and changed my outlook on things.

DoctorPiranha3 posted...
RedWhiteBlue posted...
I just want to remind TC that his positive posts and lack of negative posts came in like a wave shortly after he got laid. I remember this stuff >_>

Haha, I figured this was coming off a temporary high.

No offense TC, but if something like that is going to easily sway your mental state, you're bound to fall back into despair again. Trust me on that one. >_>

Again, was already on the way up before that. Getting laid did help me get rid of one of my big insecurities (no one ever being into me enough to want to have sex with me), but I was already feeling more confident and happy with myself prior to that point.

And it was about 7 or 8 months ago, and it was a one time thing.
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WafflehouseJK
05/01/17 3:57:47 PM
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Conflict posted...
I'm gonna be completely honest when I say I don't really read your topics generally because the people who'd actually be a good fit to help me are people that are several years older, have already experienced what I have awaiting me in the next few years, and live the independent lifestyles that I want.

Like yeah it's cool that you're doing better and all but I'm just saying that your advice wouldn't help a lot of people because you're still young and have a lot of things to experience that many people suffering from these problems are scared to death of. And yeah, "just push forward" doesn't really help either, it's very generic and it's even worse when circumstances vary wildly and just waking up in the morning is a struggle for some people.

Generic or not, I still disagree with it being bad advice. Is it difficult for people in those mindsets to follow? Absolutely. It's a struggle, and often feels downright impossible. But that's why it's something you have to push through every day until you train yourself to think positively.
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WafflehouseJK
05/01/17 4:09:33 PM
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RedWhiteBlue posted...
DoctorPiranha3 posted...
RedWhiteBlue posted...
I just want to remind TC that his positive posts and lack of negative posts came in like a wave shortly after he got laid. I remember this stuff >_>

Haha, I figured this was coming off a temporary high.

No offense TC, but if something like that is going to easily sway your mental state, you're bound to fall back into despair again. Trust me on that one. >_>

I mean, it's lasted up to now so I think he's in great shape altogether now and for the future. Believe it or not (to everyone), sex is important to the mind. And people wanting you, showing affection (even if you don't like them sexually) is important as well. TC knows we love him and that he's got what it takes.

<3

I've been on the upswing ever since I started college honestly. Feel a lot more positive and hopeful about things where despair and uncertainty used to be.
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DoctorPiranha3
05/01/17 4:11:43 PM
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WafflehouseJK posted...
DoctorPiranha3 posted...
RedWhiteBlue posted...
I just want to remind TC that his positive posts and lack of negative posts came in like a wave shortly after he got laid. I remember this stuff >_>

Haha, I figured this was coming off a temporary high.

No offense TC, but if something like that is going to easily sway your mental state, you're bound to fall back into despair again. Trust me on that one. >_>

Again, was already on the way up before that. Getting laid did help me get rid of one of my big insecurities (no one ever being into me enough to want to have sex with me), but I was already feeling more confident and happy with myself prior to that point.

And it was about 7 or 8 months ago, and it was a one time thing.

I didn't mean to come off as rude. Just saying, I've accomplished and experienced a lot for myself in the past two, three years. I've come up a lot from where I was, and depression would go away, but every time it came back, it would intensify.

I really need professional help, but I refuse to ever get it. I can't bother to care enough.
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WafflehouseJK
05/01/17 4:12:55 PM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
WafflehouseJK posted...
DoctorPiranha3 posted...
RedWhiteBlue posted...
I just want to remind TC that his positive posts and lack of negative posts came in like a wave shortly after he got laid. I remember this stuff >_>

Haha, I figured this was coming off a temporary high.

No offense TC, but if something like that is going to easily sway your mental state, you're bound to fall back into despair again. Trust me on that one. >_>

Again, was already on the way up before that. Getting laid did help me get rid of one of my big insecurities (no one ever being into me enough to want to have sex with me), but I was already feeling more confident and happy with myself prior to that point.

And it was about 7 or 8 months ago, and it was a one time thing.

I didn't mean to come off as rude. Just saying, I've accomplished and experienced a lot for myself in the past two, three years. I've come up a lot from where I was, and depression would go away, but every time it came back, it would intensify.

I really need professional help, but I refuse to ever get it. I can't bother to care enough.

It's completely and totally possible it'll come back full force. But I've been pretty consistently happy for the first time in my life since I was a little kid, and I'm hoping to build on that.
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RedZaraki
05/01/17 4:18:29 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
WafflehouseJK posted...
Leanaunfurled posted...
Except that's not always how depression works and that's potentially really crappy advice.

No, it's really not. Working to change your mindset and trying to keep positive, even when you don't feel that way at all, really does help in the long run.

Not for everyone, which is my point, and what I already said.


You got two options: Change yourself or change how you think about yourself. Or both.
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WafflehouseJK
05/01/17 7:20:49 PM
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RedZaraki posted...
Leanaunfurled posted...
WafflehouseJK posted...
Leanaunfurled posted...
Except that's not always how depression works and that's potentially really crappy advice.

No, it's really not. Working to change your mindset and trying to keep positive, even when you don't feel that way at all, really does help in the long run.

Not for everyone, which is my point, and what I already said.


You got two options: Change yourself or change how you think about yourself. Or both.

To be fair, I get what they're saying about it being a bit more in depth than that, but I wasn't trying to give some detailed, step by step guide on how to fight depression. I was just saying that I've been doing it, and I hope others can do the same.
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ShotOJameson
05/01/17 7:36:11 PM
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Maze_ posted...
Glad you're doing better TC.

I'm in the opposite stage now where I can't go a day without wanting to kill myself.


things get better, just keep pushing forward

no seriously though one day it'll all make sense, you might even be thankful you went through what you did because it will give you amazing perspective and make you a stronger person in the long run. Don't give up and make that final decision there's no coming back from that.
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