Current Events > USS Ford: $12.8 billion. MS Harmony of the Seas: $1.35 billion.

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Printerscape
04/14/17 7:13:13 PM
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USS Ford
Displacement:About 110,000 short tons
Length:1,106 ft
Beam:134 ft (waterline)
Decks:25
Speed:>30 knots
Capacity: 4,660

MS Harmony of the Seas
Displacement: Approximately 132,000 short tons
Length:1,188.1 ft
Beam:155.6 ft (waterline)
Decks:18; 16 passenger decks
Speed:>25 knots maximum
Capacity:6,780 maximum
Crew:2,300

So you're telling me the Royal Caribbean has a bigger ship than the US Navy, and it cost almost a tenth of what the US spent on the USS Ford?

Come on.
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04/14/17 7:14:41 PM
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lol?
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Printerscape
04/14/17 7:16:20 PM
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Hey posted...
lol?

It's not funny how much money is thrown at this aircraft carrier. A private entity can make a bigger ship for so much less.
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Ampelas
04/14/17 7:18:20 PM
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Printerscape posted...
Hey posted...
lol?

It's not funny how much money is thrown at this aircraft carrier. A private entity can make a bigger ship for so much less.

Armor plating, weaponry, advanced computer systems, aircraft etc are all included in the price and as far as I know, are not included on The Harmony of the Seas
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sktgamer_13dude
04/14/17 7:19:03 PM
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It's like a cruise line doesn't have to build ships that can hold crews for longer period of time and against potential threats, along with carrying everything it needs in terms of food and supplies and weapons.
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Pitlord_Special
04/14/17 7:21:23 PM
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Ampelas posted...
Printerscape posted...
Hey posted...
lol?

It's not funny how much money is thrown at this aircraft carrier. A private entity can make a bigger ship for so much less.

Armor plating, weaponry, advanced computer systems, aircraft etc are all included in the price and as far as I know, are not included on The Harmony of the Seas


Don't forget the biggest ticket item, the nuclear powered reactor/engine
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Balkov
04/14/17 7:21:29 PM
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Ampelas posted...
Printerscape posted...
Hey posted...
lol?

It's not funny how much money is thrown at this aircraft carrier. A private entity can make a bigger ship for so much less.

Armor plating, weaponry, advanced computer systems, aircraft etc are all included in the price and as far as I know, are not included on The Harmony of the Seas


Plus the nuclear reactions that generate over a gigawatt of electrical power and a quarter million shaft horsepower. The ship is fucking ridiculous
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awesome999
04/14/17 7:22:11 PM
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Aircraft carriers cost more than passenger ships, how surprising
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Printerscape
04/14/17 7:22:12 PM
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Ampelas posted...
Printerscape posted...
Hey posted...
lol?

It's not funny how much money is thrown at this aircraft carrier. A private entity can make a bigger ship for so much less.

Armor plating, weaponry, advanced computer systems, aircraft etc are all included in the price and as far as I know, are not included on The Harmony of the Seas

But the Harmony of the Seas has all that entertainment stuff.

What I mean is, if these guys can make a bigger ship for so cheap (relatively), why is Huntington Ingalls still making them?
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K181
04/14/17 7:22:37 PM
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Pitlord_Special posted...
Ampelas posted...
Printerscape posted...
Hey posted...
lol?

It's not funny how much money is thrown at this aircraft carrier. A private entity can make a bigger ship for so much less.

Armor plating, weaponry, advanced computer systems, aircraft etc are all included in the price and as far as I know, are not included on The Harmony of the Seas


Don't forget the biggest ticket item, the nuclear powered reactor/engine


Ding. Ding. Ding.

And also advanced jet launch, navigation, telecommunications systems.
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Ampelas
04/14/17 7:22:43 PM
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Pitlord_Special posted...
Ampelas posted...
Printerscape posted...
Hey posted...
lol?

It's not funny how much money is thrown at this aircraft carrier. A private entity can make a bigger ship for so much less.

Armor plating, weaponry, advanced computer systems, aircraft etc are all included in the price and as far as I know, are not included on The Harmony of the Seas


Don't forget the biggest ticket item, the nuclear powered reactor/engine

Yeah, I didn't really look into the ship, was just listing standard battleship necessities, but that further hammers the point home, lol.
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UnholyMudcrab
04/14/17 7:22:44 PM
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Shin Kudo
04/14/17 7:23:17 PM
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Wow a cruise liner that's not nuclear powered, manned by a crew that could take over countries by itself, not armed with the latest in technology, and a representation of the most powerful country on earth costs less that 1/10 of an aircraft carrier?
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masterpug53
04/14/17 7:24:52 PM
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Belly laugh topic of the day, thank you.
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Printerscape
04/14/17 7:56:37 PM
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Hold on. I don't mean that it should be the same. I mean there are these other companies that can clearly make a big ass ship. So why not go with them instead of sticking with Newport News all the time?
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chill02
04/14/17 7:58:19 PM
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Making military vehicles is a different ballpark from making commercial ones
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FrenchCrunch
04/14/17 7:59:40 PM
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How on earth are they comparable
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thronedfire2
04/14/17 8:01:33 PM
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Printerscape posted...
Hold on. I don't mean that it should be the same. I mean there are these other companies that can clearly make a big ass ship. So why not go with them instead of sticking with Newport News all the time?


there are these things called contracts

and also not wanting to give our technology away to multiple companies if we don't need to
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awesome999
04/14/17 8:02:19 PM
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Printerscape posted...
Hold on. I don't mean that it should be the same. I mean there are these other companies that can clearly make a big ass ship. So why not go with them instead of sticking with Newport News all the time?

Experience? Building a military ship takes expertise in different fields than building a cruiser. And you don't want to reveal military secrets to commercial companies
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glitteringfairy
04/14/17 8:04:59 PM
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TC doesn't understand its not the overall size of the ship that dictates the cost, it's what you install it with
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chill02
04/14/17 8:07:03 PM
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I'm also guessing the Harmony of the Seas' hull can't withstand a torpedo
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mustachedmystic
04/14/17 8:08:02 PM
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TC knows that if he posts a ridiculous topic, people will take the bait like a bucket of piranha attacking a chicken thigh.
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thronedfire2
04/14/17 8:09:03 PM
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also the carrier is much faster. that >30 knots is because the true max speed is classified
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Tropicalwood
04/14/17 8:09:13 PM
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awesome999 posted...
Printerscape posted...
Hold on. I don't mean that it should be the same. I mean there are these other companies that can clearly make a big ass ship. So why not go with them instead of sticking with Newport News all the time?

Experience? Building a military ship takes expertise in different fields than building a cruiser. And you don't want to reveal military secrets to commercial companies

Actually, Boeing makes military aircraft.
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Cookie Bag
04/14/17 8:09:23 PM
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For a second i thought this was a complete_idiot topic... this is actually sad to read...
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awesome999
04/14/17 8:16:30 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
awesome999 posted...
Printerscape posted...
Hold on. I don't mean that it should be the same. I mean there are these other companies that can clearly make a big ass ship. So why not go with them instead of sticking with Newport News all the time?

Experience? Building a military ship takes expertise in different fields than building a cruiser. And you don't want to reveal military secrets to commercial companies

Actually, Boeing makes military aircraft.

I didn't say commercial companies can't make military vehicles, I just said companies that focus solely on commercial equipment have experience in making commercial equipment and you don't want them making something they're not experts in

And besides, Boeing making both types of aircraft is more exception than rule

Oops STX France makes military ships too. Point still stands though
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Printerscape
04/14/17 10:00:30 PM
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awesome999 posted...
Printerscape posted...
Hold on. I don't mean that it should be the same. I mean there are these other companies that can clearly make a big ass ship. So why not go with them instead of sticking with Newport News all the time?

Experience? Building a military ship takes expertise in different fields than building a cruiser. And you don't want to reveal military secrets to commercial companies

Newport News Shipbuilding is a commercial company... It's owned by Huntington Ingalls, and before them, Northrop.
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Darkman124
04/14/17 10:27:04 PM
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did you really think you were being insightful here
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Bok_Choi
04/14/17 10:29:54 PM
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not sure if troll topic or if tc just didn't think this through
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pikachupwnage
04/14/17 10:46:54 PM
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Alex I will take stupidest posts on gamefaqs for 600.
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Questionmarktarius
04/14/17 10:49:17 PM
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Pitlord_Special posted...
Don't forget the biggest ticket item, the nuclear powered reactor/engine

Why aren't there reactors in civilian ships, anyway?
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pikachupwnage
04/14/17 10:50:46 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Pitlord_Special posted...
Don't forget the biggest ticket item, the nuclear powered reactor/engine

Why aren't there reactors in civilian ships, anyway?


Because they are hella expensive and probably tightly regulated.
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Questionmarktarius
04/14/17 10:53:02 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Pitlord_Special posted...
Don't forget the biggest ticket item, the nuclear powered reactor/engine

Why aren't there reactors in civilian ships, anyway?


Because they are hella expensive and probably tightly regulated.

It's seventy-something years into the nuclear age. We should be driving Ford Nucleons and running our electronic doodads on plutonium cells by now.
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pikachupwnage
04/14/17 10:54:02 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Pitlord_Special posted...
Don't forget the biggest ticket item, the nuclear powered reactor/engine

Why aren't there reactors in civilian ships, anyway?


Because they are hella expensive and probably tightly regulated.

It's seventy-something years into the nuclear age. We should be driving Ford Nucleons and running our electronic doodads on plutonium cells by now.


People don't want radiation poisoning every time they drop their phone.
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Bok_Choi
04/14/17 10:55:13 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Pitlord_Special posted...
Don't forget the biggest ticket item, the nuclear powered reactor/engine

Why aren't there reactors in civilian ships, anyway?


Because they are hella expensive and probably tightly regulated.

It's seventy-something years into the nuclear age. We should be driving Ford Nucleons and running our electronic doodads on plutonium cells by now.


People don't want radiation poisoning every time they drop their phone.

solution, develop a drug that wipes radiation
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Questionmarktarius
04/14/17 10:56:50 PM
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pikachupwnage posted...
People don't want radiation poisoning every time they drop their phone.

Chances are pretty damn good you have several nuclear devices in your house, right now.
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Balkov
04/14/17 10:59:34 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
pikachupwnage posted...
People don't want radiation poisoning every time they drop their phone.

Chances are pretty damn good you have several nuclear devices in your house, right now.
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Thankfully those smoke detectors are quickly being phased out in favor of photoelectric ones. The ionization ones were never great.
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Questionmarktarius
04/14/17 11:00:30 PM
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Balkov posted...
Thankfully those smoke detectors are quickly being phased out in favor of photoelectric ones. The ionization ones were never great.

Incidentally, are the "ten year" smoke alarms worth it?
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Kineth
04/14/17 11:02:34 PM
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Balkov
04/14/17 11:03:27 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Balkov posted...
Thankfully those smoke detectors are quickly being phased out in favor of photoelectric ones. The ionization ones were never great.

Incidentally, are the "ten year" smoke alarms worth it?


The 120v systems are alright, the kidde brand is a little more reliable than brk. Chances are most people won't have issues with them over the 10 year lifespan, other than changing the batteries. Low voltage systems are the best way to go though
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Questionmarktarius
04/14/17 11:09:02 PM
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Balkov posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Balkov posted...
Thankfully those smoke detectors are quickly being phased out in favor of photoelectric ones. The ionization ones were never great.

Incidentally, are the "ten year" smoke alarms worth it?


The 120v systems are alright, the kidde brand is a little more reliable than brk. Chances are most people won't have issues with them over the 10 year lifespan, other than changing the batteries. Low voltage systems are the best way to go though

Meh. I just keep feeding my americium detectors two 9-volts a year.
Thanks, though.
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Balkov
04/14/17 11:14:04 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Balkov posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Balkov posted...
Thankfully those smoke detectors are quickly being phased out in favor of photoelectric ones. The ionization ones were never great.

Incidentally, are the "ten year" smoke alarms worth it?


The 120v systems are alright, the kidde brand is a little more reliable than brk. Chances are most people won't have issues with them over the 10 year lifespan, other than changing the batteries. Low voltage systems are the best way to go though

Meh. I just keep feeding my americium detectors two 9-volts a year.
Thanks, though.


The biggest issue you might have is the ionization ones going off on false alarms. They can be sensitive to changes in air density from things like steam from a shower if its close to a bathroom, or even really high humidity in the summer.
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DrizztLink
04/14/17 11:14:11 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Meh. I just keep feeding my americium detectors two 9-volts a year.

That sounds like something they'd use in the 50's to find Commie infiltrators.
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Questionmarktarius
04/14/17 11:14:42 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Meh. I just keep feeding my americium detectors two 9-volts a year.

That sounds like something they'd use in the 50's to find Commie infiltrators.

If they happen to be on fire, yeah.
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meingott
04/14/17 11:15:31 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
This topic has to be a joke

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Lonestar2000
04/14/17 11:22:15 PM
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Holy fuck, this is one of the dumbest topics I have ever seen.
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RE_expert44
04/14/17 11:23:09 PM
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What would win in a fight? A fully loaded cruise liner or a fully loaded aircraft carrier?

They both start 1 mile apart. Carrier is fully stocked with planes and cruise liner has all shuffleboard decks oiled and ready.
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Questionmarktarius
04/14/17 11:24:09 PM
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RE_expert44 posted...
What would win in a fight? A fully loaded cruise liner or a fully loaded aircraft carrier?

Cruise liners have already lost to rocks and icebergs. There's no contest here.

Hell, Canada damn near had a carrier made of iceberg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Habakkuk
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Printerscape
04/14/17 11:42:02 PM
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Jeez, everyone here think it's perfectly reasonable for the warship to be 10,000% more costly than a bigger cruise liner? I mean it's not like the warship comes with the jets... It's literally just a ship that carries planes.
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iamintents
04/14/17 11:45:59 PM
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Guys I can't believe the Enterprise cost more than my Cessna
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